RAMMING August football DOWN YOUR THROAT

[Waffdon]

You still will. Poch has had a brain fart of the highest order with this set up. Leaving Colwill one v one against Salah at all times is only going to end one way. Changing your whole set up from every game in pre season because Nkunku is injured just does not make sense.

[randomlegend]

Nice to see Chelsea still don't know how to defend.

Disasi (who Waff informs me I've never seen play) moving like an oil tanker.

[Manc]

John Henry looks senile.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Salah has so much space.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think that's off.

Colwill can't cope at all though.

[phonics]

Don’t worry Waff, if you amortise the goals over 8 years you’re only losing 0.2 to nil.

[Spikey M]

:D

[John Arne]

He was miles off, what are they talking about?

[Lofty]

Carra just reading my posts out at this point.

[Waffdon]

Don’t worry Waff, if you amortise the goals over 8 years you’re only losing 0.2 to nil.

Great European Trophy m8

Not quite sure how the system hasn’t been changed yet. Holy lord

[Don]

The Hungarian is a disgusting talent. The footwork and technique but also the work rate (and hairy legs) :drool:

[Waffdon]

Disasi (who Waff informs me I've never seen play) moving like an oil tanker.

Harry Maguire could never

[randomlegend]

Disasi (who Waff informs me I've never seen play) moving like an oil tanker.

You're welcome, Waff :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lolerpool.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Looks offside.

[randomlegend]

The Hungarian is a disgusting talent. The footwork and technique but also the work rate (and hairy legs) :drool:

Lovely pre-assist from him for the Chelsea goal.

[John Arne]

Offside. Disallow, get on with it.

[Waffdon]

If I see Gallagher take the ball on the turn again :sick:

[randomlegend]

Klopp looking like he's only allowed supervised visits to his kids every other weekend.

[Waffdon]

Enzo Fernandez when he’s got Caicedo next to him. Good god I’m gonna cum.

[Don]

Lovely pre-assist from him for the Chelsea goal.

The desperation is potent. As you've found out, live in-game opinion posting is not for the weak and flabby. Resume your spot in the shadows with everyone else pls.

[Gray Fox]

Mac Allister doing his best, but it's clear that when it drops to a 4-3-3 in defence, neither of the wide CMs in Szoboszlai or Gakpo have any defensive awareness once the ball breaks the press.

[Waffdon]

It’s hard not to see Salah scoring or at least creating another goal. He’s just too good and getting the game played in his hands on the break into space

[Don]

Get Darwin on for the malnourished favela fuck.

[Gray Fox]

I'm happy with it going forwards. A few times the pass has just been off to have put someone in. Way too risky to keep this exact shape though.

[randomlegend]

The desperation is potent. As you've found out, live in-game opinion posting is not for the weak and flabby. Resume your spot in the shadows with everyone else pls.

Got to admire the bluster of calling people weak when you have the stature and physique of a 12 year old who was just liberated from a concentration camp.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jackson got away with that.

[Luke Emia]

Handballs don’t count anymore then?

[Manc]

Robertson looks broken.

[Don]

Why do they bother pressing Enzo ffs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Reece James is made of glass.

Mo Salah SEETHING :harold:

[Don]

Hahaha fuck off you dirty muzzy cunt, McMessi is here.

[Gray Fox]

This is fucking bold.

[Waffdon]

Now I’m worried Liverpool up their offer for Caicedo to a bonkers amount.

[Gray Fox]

Now I’m worried Liverpool up their offer for Caicedo to a bonkers amount.

While we absolutely should, I'm not sure one player fixes that mess.

[Don]

Mac and Szob being unleashed in advance without 4 forwards crowding eachother out very much will unlock the glory.

[Gray Fox]

I have to say I was very impressed with Mac Allister. Considring he was playing in a lesser favoured position and had literally no help around him, he looked great on the ball and came up with a clutch tackle at the death to stop a Chelsea goal.

[Shindig]

The Italy job is up for grabs. I wonder if they'd be looking at De Zerbi?

[Kikó]

Liverpool and Chelsea look like they will be competing for tenth after today.

[randomlegend]

Liverpool having 35% possession against that Chelsea midfield/team :sick:

[Gray Fox]

"Enzo Fernando" was different gravy.

[Baz]

Aye. £107m was a bargain.

[niko_cee]

Respect the point.

You'd think this new German DoF Liverpool have would know of at least one journeyman shitkicker who could do a job in midfield for less than a record fee [although apparently not]. Cantona was right about water carriers, they're ten a penny. I know Caicedo is more than that, but Liverpool don't really need more than that, they have a wealth of options in the more advanced midfield roles.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah someone who prioritises snapping people is much more needed than another playmaker type. Problem is the hand has been shown and what's in the bank is known. Nobody is going to be cheap.

[Don]

Aye. £107m was a bargain.

And we still have Mason Mount's fanclub saying Caicedo who is of a similar age but with an added season's PL experience is overpriced. Make it make sense.

[niko_cee]

Feel like this weekend has gone down without the lol disciplinary disasters [or even much mad added time] that was anticipated, so good of Barcelona to try and pick up the slack a bit.

[John Arne]

We should sign Fabinho.

[Lofty]

Yeah someone who prioritises snapping people is much more needed than another playmaker type. Problem is the hand has been shown and what's in the bank is known. Nobody is going to be cheap.

Not so much the hand as the fact it's been left until now instead of wrapped up before pre season. All sales carry that premium now, I think.

[Lofty]

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[SincereTheRebel]

Two year deal for Neymar in Saudi.

[Spikey M]

What a waste of a career he's had.

[Don]

I'm not sure he's going to be too bothered that some virgin gimps think he should have added a Ballon D'Or and a couple of Barclays Premier League Player of the Months when he'll retire into the bosom of South America's finest whores widely recognised as one of the greatest ever Brazillian players.

[niko_cee]

Probably needed to win in 2014 for that, God bless Colombia (although retrospectively sad for him). Bit like Steve Nash never winning an NBA title as a player.

[Waffdon]

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What’s Ronaldo doing in Scotland?

[phonics]

Timber doesn't miss a match in 4 years, turns up at Arsenal, knee explodes. Story as old as time.

[Lofty]

That was absolutely pitiful game management by all the coaching staff, ironically Arseblog did a podcast before the game talking to some professor of sports science who is an Arsenal fan and he basically said whenever anyone takes a knock they should be subbed off as it will never be 'ran off' and only aggravate it. Lo and behold, that exact scenario played out.

[randomlegend]

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Wolves should get a points deduction for this font.

[Don]

Can't believe I'm missing Antony mins tonight. Lowlights reel no doubt up within 10 mins of FT :drool:

[Baz]

A 26 year old has been decapitated, working on Everton’s new ground. :|

[Waffdon]

Casemiro getting away with booting Cunha without even a foul being awarded :D

[Lewis]

A 26 year old has been decapitated, working on Everton’s new ground. :|

And now it's cursed.

[Kikó]

Really enjoying the Barclays tonight.

[Don]

Casemiro's legs are so gone :D

[Ben]

How’s that Antony rugby tackle not a penalty then?

[Don]

Tuned in at about 50th min and Wolves in control at Old Trafford. Egghead masterclass. Nagelsmann in by Xmas.

[Dark Soldier]

Fantastic performance this. The points are just resting in our account.

[Kikó]

Cunha has been brilliant.

[Dark Soldier]

Performance of champions

[Waffdon]

This is every Man Utd game I have ever watched under Ten Haag. Properly bang average but always get a goal from somewhere.

[Kikó]

United v wolves is always played like this.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Never in doubt.

[Lewis]

The Rashford Shot Clock needs resetting for the new season.

[Baz]

Cunha has been brilliant.

Matheus Nunes has been, too.

[Don]

Anfield on 16th December. That 7-0 is gonna be surpassed.

[Lewis]

Well-timed intervention from Luca.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a pen for me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

VAR has fucked Wolves over.

[Dark Soldier]

Absolute fucking melt 'how shut up, never a pen

[Lewis]

Never a penalty.

[Ben]

Fergie lives on.

[Dark Soldier]

Stunning victory that, got me excited for the season.

[Kikó]

Var is a great addition to the game.

[randomlegend]

Playing like shit and winning 1-0? May as well drive the trophy down from the little club up the road right now. :drool:

[Don]

Onana :lol:

[randomlegend]

I'm not sure whether me being proved right about Mount being shit is a victory or a defeat.

[Luca]

If a keeper can’t go up to try and claim a cross and knock a few people around in the process, the game is well and truly gone.

[SincereTheRebel]

Relegation lads. Its been coming for several years. Wolves are Doomed.

[Kikó]

I'm not sure whether me being proved right about Mount being shit is a victory or a defeat.

I'm not sure it makes any sense to write off a player after one game.

[niko_cee]

Or to make any judgment about them whatsoever based on their performances for United.

[Waffdon]

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He’s definitely been stitched up by his teammates there :D

[niko_cee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66506026

Is there any point to VAR?

Thought Brighton's penalty was soft AF as well, and then the various handball/not handballs made zero sense either.

[Yevrah]

It's a disaster of system, with the only thing you can point to that it does reliably is taking the fun out of football.

[Lofty]

KDB crocked.

[phonics]

His need to beat Arsenal overcame his need to stay fit. You hate to see it.

[Gray Fox]

You might have a chance of not bottling the title this year.

[randomlegend]

In all seriousness re: United, I imagine we'll look rubbish or at least very inconsistent for a while and I wouldn't be surprised if there's another absolute drubbing at some point.

Ten Hag couldn't implement the style he wanted last year because he didn't have the players (namely De Gea), so we're not far off starting from scratch this year.

[Bernanke]

Molde - Klaksvik is 2-2 on aggregate with 5 minutes to go.

[Adramelch]

How is Livakovic still at Dinamo? He's not a world class keeper by any means, but surely he's worth the relatively low amount of money he would cost?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Molde - Klaksvik is 2-2 on aggregate with 5 minutes to go.
:(

They couldn't make it.

[Adramelch]

I only managed to catch the last 35 minutes or so of Dinamo-AEK (from what I can gather we weren't all that good in the first half) and the score could have very well been 1-4. Livakovic single-handedly kept them in the tie.

[Baz]

Warrington have played 3, won 2, lost 1 in their first foray into the National League North.

So…

https://i.imgur.io/eDws6YS_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Mark January in your calendar, Ian. If Warrington are still doing well, I’ll not only be going to watch them at the end of the month, I’ll be absolutely balls deep in my Warrington save on FM24 (no addons required), and I’ll be constantly referencing my 50/1 ‘Warrington to win the league’ bet.

[Adramelch]

Marseille with the good old "penalty specialist goalkeeper" last minute substitution. Let's see if that one ends up working.

Edit: It didn't.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They are one of the most useless clubs in Europe relative to the emotional energy expended on them.

[Gray Fox]

I'd love to see some stats on the penalty keeper sub. The most literal comical example is obviously Kepa. Gets nowhere near any saves and balloons his own penalty into the crowd.

If the Marseille SPECIALIST is that good, I'd love to see how bad the normal keeper is.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's one of those things that is a no-brainer for a data analyst - Bill is 30% better at saving penalties so obviously you send him on for Bob - but is scuppered by the complex workings of the human psyche.

[Don]

It probably works but luddites' confirmation bias has them posting about it every fucking time it doesn't which given a penalty conversion rate of 90%+ is very common.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If 85% of penalties go in (think it's about that), that means 15% don't go in of which probably two-thirds are saved. So the average goalkeeper will save probably 10% of penalties they face. In a five-kick shootout, therefore, your average keeper will save 0.5 penalties. Your top penalty-saving keeper is probably doing twice as well as that (Fabianski on 10/41 saved is top in PL terms). So he'll save 1 penalty in five.

So if all things are equal you would give yourself an advantage of 0.5 penalties by sending on a top specialist from the bench to replace someone bang average. By sending on someone who's only slightly better than the man on the pitch that'll be down to 0.1 or 0.2... I'm not convinced. I'd rather use my sub on a quality penalty taker.

[Bernanke]

Was it a World Cup or EC game where the Dutch brought one on to win a knock-out game?

Edit: Ah yeah, Krul in the 2014 WC.

[randomlegend]

If 85% of penalties go in (think it's about that), that means 15% don't go in of which probably two-thirds are saved. So the average goalkeeper will save probably 10% of penalties they face. In a five-kick shootout, therefore, your average keeper will save 0.5 penalties. Your top penalty-saving keeper is probably doing twice as well as that (Fabianski on 10/41 saved is top in PL terms). So he'll save 1 penalty in five.

So if all things are equal you would give yourself an advantage of 0.5 penalties by sending on a top specialist from the bench to replace someone bang average. By sending on someone who's only slightly better than the man on the pitch that'll be down to 0.1 or 0.2... I'm not convinced. I'd rather use my sub on a quality penalty taker.

Bringing a penalty taker on is far, far worse and an act of supreme cowardice by a manager.

Goalkeepers aren't expected to save many, so even if you are sent on as the penalty specialist keeper and save none, nobody really gets at you. You also get 4 or 5 chances to save one.

The pressure on someone who's been sent on to take a penalty is enormous, because you're expected to score anyway and you're definitely expected to score if you've been sent on just to take one. Expecting someone to get in the headspace to shoulder the burden of a vital penalty when they haven't been involved in the game is ridiculous. Any manager who does it is basically feeding the player to the wolves to try to save their own neck.

[Max Power]

Is sending the second keeper on a data thing? I assumed it was a “try and freak out the opposition” move, nothing sophisticated. Martin O’Neill did it in a okay off final nearly 30 years ago don’t think he was aware of the metrics.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, classic icing the kicker madness.

Problem is more those takers being sent on are never specialists, but as per Jimmy's keeper theory only marginally better, which human frailty overwhelms. If you were bringing on Matt Le Tissier or someone like that then it'd make more sense, but those sorts of players are never on the bench, mooks like Sancho are picked ahead of them.

Looking ahead, even though Milner has gone Liverpool should have some pretty decent penalty shoot out options this year, if they make it into any.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Maybe in a World Cup knockout game that's the case, but in a generic or theoretical shootout I don't think so. There surely has to be a greater variance between a shit and good penalty taker than there is between a shit and good penalty saver.

And what niko said as well. If you're bringing on just-above-average takers who aren't actual specialists, it should be for the 8th / 9th kicks to replace people who are hopeless.

[niko_cee]

Generic shoot outs don't really exist though, in the sense that if they are sufficiently mundane then there is less pressure and every professional footballer should have no problem scoring.

[wullie]

Bringing Jamie Carragher on in the last minute of extra time in 2006 just to have him miss always stood out to me. Did he ever score penalties for Liverpool?

[Lofty]

This colour commentator for the gashes is worse than the standard of play.

[niko_cee]

Bringing Jamie Carragher on in the last minute of extra time in 2006 just to have him miss always stood out to me. Did he ever score penalties for Liverpool?

Yeah. Extra gutting as I think he'd taken quite a few for Liverpool in shootouts (I may have imagined this, I know he'd never taken one in a match as such) and looked surprisingly good. I was convinced he'd score.

Edit - scored in the Champions league final, and completely forgot he was made to retake that one against Portugal having scored it once. Talk about being on a hiding to nothing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a finish that was.

[SvN]

Edit - scored in the Champions league final, and completely forgot he was made to retake that one against Portugal having scored it once. Talk about being on a hiding to nothing.

Did he? Not according to Wiki.

[Gray Fox]

Gerrard, Smicer, Alonso and Kuyt the only goal scorers in finals he played in.

As for the pens it was Hamann, Smicer and Cisse.

[Lofty]

Samalu Kerrkaku.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Aww look mate.

[Gray Fox]

Good luck booing Sweet Caroline you cunts.

[Lofty]

Maybe I am biased but I can't help but feel the commentary is very hyperbolic for the Lionesses. They won, fair enough but it is always 'they were laser focused, perfect' etc. When really they coughed up a lot and Australia squandered a lot of chances. The score doesn't lie but to hear the analysis you'd think the Matildas never made it past the half way line, so cowed were they by the imperious England women.

[phonics]

It's almost like home team commentators have an inherent bias towards their team.

[Dark Soldier]

There is an almost childish view of women's football and its really fucking patronising in the coverage. Brave, heroic, gave it their all.

No, a lot of the time they got beat because they were fucking shit.

[Yevrah]

I think it stems from this unwavering pursuit of having the Women's game exist in the same space as the Men's, so the Men's continual failure is somehow used as the baseline and achieving well above that (as the Women have) is treated in the same way as if the Men were suddenly doing it. Presumably the actual reality is that in terms of infrastructure and participation the Women's game in England is miles ahead of most of the rest of the World (like the England Men's game was in the late 19th century to the 2nd World War), but unlike the Men back then the Women are actually bothering to go to these tournaments and are winning them as a result.

[Don]

It's the same for the mens, the only difference is you're all 15 stellas down and don't care.

[Lofty]

I definitely don't think if England men drew 0-0 against Nigeria and had a late sending off for a daft foul before winning on penalties the commentary would be as positive as it was for the women.

[Yevrah]

It's the same for the mens, the only difference is you're all 15 stellas down and don't care.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the gushing nonsense that poured out of the commentator's mouth when we beat Denmark, at home no less to reach the final of the Euros was absolutely ridiculous, but brought about due to a) the commentator being a twat and b) all the shit we've been through to get to one. The Women haven't been through that, but because of this conflating of the two sports THE NARRATIVE is coming from a place where they have.

[Yevrah]

In short, it's our (the Men's failure) so just leave it with us and enjoy the fact that the Women's team is genuinely good and exhibits loads of characteristics we don't have that I wish we did.

[Yevrah]

And this, from the BBC's summary is a perfect example of it:


Lionesses into final for first time & become first England football team to reach that stage since 1966

No, no they don't. And if they win it, their achievement shouldn't be undermined by it being referenced to as the second England football team to win a World Cup.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Since 1966 we have made three finals of the Amputee World Cup for starters.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. Given how absolutely fucked the Men's game is now anyway I'm not sure it's wise to position yourself within it long term. Sure there'll be some benefits now, but at some point those in charge are going to have to think about how to position it in its own right.

[SvN]

It's almost like home team commentators have an inherent bias towards their team.

This is the 31st time you've started a sentence with "It's almost like" on this forum.

48th if you include posts starting "Almost like..."

[phonics]

Almost like it's a good format.

[Boydy]

It seems to me like it was a bad decision to host the women's world cup in Austrlia and New Zealand at this time when it's therefore on at shitty times for the bits of the world that are probably most into it. A better timezone for more casual viewers would probably have helped solidify the game's status. Just had a look and 13 of the round of 16 teams are from Europe, Africa or the Americas.

I'd probably have watched some of it if it was on in the evenings but as it is, it's completely passed me by.

[Spikey M]

Almost like it's a good format.

It's even more almost like an irritating one.

[niko_cee]

Did he? Not according to Wiki.

Duped by the echo.

He definitely took and scored some in shoot outs, although I have no idea of the context.

[Baz]

Saw a male receptionist watching football on his computer. I asked him if England were winning. They were, 2-1 at the time. The three women I was heading out to get dinner with all in unison said “winning at what?”

[Dark Soldier]

Baz slamming it into three of em at once. Dirty bastard. You've come a long way since Garden Soccer mate.

[Guybrush]

Duped by the echo.

He definitely took and scored some in shoot outs, although I have no idea of the context.

League Cup against Birmingham, 2001?

[Jimmy Floyd]

That Man U statement about Greenwood is some proper cowardly shit. If you're going to do it, just do it, and own the probably world-ending consequences that will stain the organisation's name for decades.

[Don]

The toxicity surrounding that dogshit bunch of favelas is going to be fantastic. As if they needed a reason to lose their heads already.

[Kikó]

Post something interesting at least once Taz.

The greenwood statement is a joke. They want to keep him because he's good at football and don't care about anything else. Just own it you miserable cunts.

[Gray Fox]

I'm very surprised he wasn't sought out for a Saudi move. Would have been the best thing for all parties involved.

[Giggles]

He'd get a medal for it out there.

[Lewis]

Post something interesting at least once Taz.

The greenwood statement is a joke. They want to keep him because he's good at football and don't care about anything else. Just own it you miserable cunts.

The longer it went on beyond not sacking him that first weekend the more likely this outcome was. Every other sport has a few of these cases a year, and you don't get canned beyond a certain level of ability.

[niko_cee]

Female Fans Against Greenwood's Return

Definitely scope for some Lewis friendly tomfoolery here.

Female Fans Against Greenwood Getting On The... erm.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's going to be a total shitshow if he comes back. The club's name will be mud. I don't get how they can't see it.

[Kikó]

He's innocent, how do you know it wasn't just kinky sex? They've moved on, you should to. He does what he wants etc etc

[Shindig]

Definitely scope for some Lewis friendly tomfoolery here.

Female Fans Against Greenwood Getting On The... erm.

Team. Just replace 'The' with Team. I'll see if Baz can get us some T-shirts.

[Ian]

That Man U statement about Greenwood is some proper cowardly shit. If you're going to do it, just do it, and own the probably world-ending consequences that will stain the organisation's name for decades.

The club is clearly desperate to find justification for taking a pro-rape stance.

[Baz]

Team. Just replace 'The' with Team. I'll see if Baz can get us some T-shirts.

Could do The Team. Double F and double T, why not.

[Lewis]

I think most people will seethe for a while and then get bored of it. Marcos Alonso killed that woman four transfers and hundreds of games ago.

[Baz]

https://i.imgur.io/jS0eiQ6_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Gray Fox]

Had he just been acquitted it would be one thing, but we all heard that recording and know the only reason he isn't done now is because he knocked the girl up.

He really should have the decency to fuck off to another country but I bet he doesn't think he did anything wrong.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think most people will seethe for a while and then get bored of it. Marcos Alonso killed that woman four transfers and hundreds of games ago.

Marcos Alonso did that behind a language barrier, most casual fans probably don't even know he did it. This will be on a different scale.

They will either have used the earlier statement to test the water and will now back out, or they'll have to u-turn very soon after doing it because the chaos will massacre the club's reputation on a daily basis.

[Shindig]

Has Greenwood said anything since?

[-james-]

The Goodwillie case is an interesting benchmark. Has he only been hounded out of every club he's joined because they're diddy teams where THE COMMON MAN's voice outweighs the sums of money involved, or will it be similar/worse?

[randomlegend]

Has Greenwood said anything since?

No, but he's been using The Sun for PR.

[Gray Fox]

The true testament to his character. If it was ever in doubt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's the other problem the club will face - the only people defending him will be the worst people on that side of the culture war. Jim Davidson, Dan Nuttall, the pro-Russia bots, they'll all be lining up to shill for Busby's boys. That in itself is a problem.

Tremendous effort bringing it up during the height of hashtag Lionesses fever as well. Wonderful strategic thinking from the geniuses at OT.

[Lewis]

Marcos Alonso did that behind a language barrier, most casual fans probably don't even know he did it. This will be on a different scale.

They will either have used the earlier statement to test the water and will now back out, or they'll have to u-turn very soon after doing it because the chaos will massacre the club's reputation on a daily basis.

Match-going Chelsea fans will have known he did it, and I don't remember them ever doing anything other than cheer for him.

[Luke Emia]

The Goodwillie case is an interesting benchmark. Has he only been hounded out of every club he's joined because they're diddy teams where THE COMMON MAN's voice outweighs the sums of money involved, or will it be similar/worse?

You'd have to think it comes down to the sponsors. They have obviously had the nod from them that they feel it would be ok so that's why they are seeing if they can get away with it.

[Waffdon]

Man City really are irrelevant. I’ve only just clocked theyre playing in the Super Cup tonight.

[Adramelch]

Or, you know, Super Cups are irrelevant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cole Palmer looks weird.

I reckon there might have been a bit of incest in his family.

[Waffdon]

Or, you know, Super Cups are irrelevant.

Not if you’ve never won it before.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bono to save two penalties.

[phonics]

Match-going Chelsea fans will have known he did it, and I don't remember them ever doing anything other than cheer for him.

Match going Chelsea fans wouldn't let Moises Caiceido on the same train as them.

[Baz]

Kovacic could be bargain of the decade. One of City’s best players already, looks like he’s played there for years.

[Gray Fox]

The company doing Liverpools stadium expansion(and Fulhams) has gone into administration today. Apparently workers were ordered off site at Anfield.

That's going to get messy I think.

[Lofty]

Saudi wanting CL places now, sure UEFA will resist that like a crackwhore resisting a £2 coin.

[-james-]

Probably don't really need to post this given that he played 75 minutes of football at the weekend but Reece James has injured his hamstring.

[Don]

I brought him in to my FPL after the "He's not injured, he was tired" Poch comments. The guy needs to retire. Gusto a solid deputy if offering nothing in attack.

[thommo]

The company doing Liverpools stadium expansion(and Fulhams) has gone into administration today. Apparently workers were ordered off site at Anfield.

That's going to get messy I think.

Thankfully doesn't affect us as we're just fitting the stand out now. What a crying shame for Liverpool though...

[Waffdon]

Probably don't really need to post this given that he played 75 minutes of football at the weekend but Reece James has injured his hamstring.

Apparently he’ll be out for months again. No idea why he refused surgery end of last season. His knee and hamstring is beyond a joke. Didn’t really have any injury issues up until the start of last year.

His sister has hamstring issues but she got surgery done before joining Chelsea and hasn’t had any issues since

[randomlegend]

Apparently he’ll be out for months again. No idea why he refused surgery end of last season. His knee and hamstring is beyond a joke. Didn’t really have any injury issues up until the start of last year.

His sister has hamstring issues but she got surgery done before joining Chelsea and hasn’t had any issues since

The seemingly widely held belief that surgery for sports injury = problem fixed is for the most part not the reality.

There are often trade-offs and the outcomes are also far from guaranteed with many of the operations offered. It's not entirely unusual to end up worse off than you were before.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I sometimes wonder about these enormous blokes trying to play football, especially in positions other than centre half. It's really a sport for whippets and beanpoles.

[niko_cee]

Reece James only ever seems to play against Liverpool.

[niko_cee]

Also, why are the PFA awards being nominated now? I thought Haaland had already won both.

[Waffdon]

I sometimes wonder about these enormous blokes trying to play football, especially in positions other than centre half. It's really a sport for whippets and beanpoles.

Maybe he just needs to move infield. He started 45/46 games for Wigan playing in midfield and was an absolute stand out. More or less the same amount of running but you’re not going to be full on sprinting up and down all game like him and Chilwell do

[phonics]

Think Yao Ming is a perfect example of how these physical freaks work. Eventually the basic mathematics give in on you.

[Spikey M]

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Lewis

[Baz]

What’s Greenwood wearing?

[niko_cee]

He's just getting in before Lady Sven takes over the England 'mens' team. :happycry:

[Waffdon]

Bloody hell. Scotland have 3 teams guaranteed group stages of some sort in Europe this season but potentially 5 if Hearts and Hibs win again next week.

Coefficient looking real nice.

[-james-]

Bloody hell. Scotland have 3 teams guaranteed group stages of some sort in Europe this season but potentially 5 if Hearts and Hibs win again next week.

Coefficient looking real nice.

Don't Hibs have to beat Villa?

[Waffdon]

Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen all will get into the Group Stages. Their next matches just decide if they drop down a level or not. Hibs/Hearts both in play offs for the conference but doubt either get through

[niko_cee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66540492

:D

What the fuck is Rachel Riley doing supporting United anyway?

She's from Spikey's 'endz' and has cultural affiliation which point in a certain North Londonward direction.

[phonics]

which point in a certain North Londonward direction.

She spent her entire cultural attache on calling Corbyn a racist you would have definitely pointed in that direction.

[Baz]

She’s 37. When she was a child, United were winning everything. Glory hunter.

[Lofty]

Imagine Riley supporting Arsenal with a season ticket next to Corbyn :D

Walcott retires: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66536939

[Jimmy Floyd]

Pleased to confirm that our hero is at it again: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66541044

[randomlegend]

Floodgates really starting to open on the tide of well-earned hate against United.

I guess the only thing we can hope for is a fall-out so biblical that they have to renege on bringing him back, everyone involved gets sacked and we get sold to Ratcliffe.

Short of that I feel like I'm done with United, and I can't see myself caring about another club so probably done with football.

[-james-]

Short of that I feel like I'm done with United, and I can't see myself caring about another club so probably done with football.

I'm sure this is a manc_sean/Kiko post from 2007

[Baz]

Where are FCUM these days?

[niko_cee]

Floodgates really starting to open on the tide of well-earned hate against United.

I guess the only thing we can hope for is a fall-out so biblical that they have to renege on bringing him back, everyone involved gets sacked and we get sold to Ratcliffe.

Short of that I feel like I'm done with United, and I can't see myself caring about another club so probably done with football.

Start going to Norwich or something.

I find going to Brighton to be a far more enjoyable experience without the burden of 'properly' supporting them. All the upside without the weekend ruining gloom [although that is still available elsewhere]. Helps that they're not absolutely horrendous now as well.

[Gray Fox]

Where are FCUM these days?

Playing my local lot next! I might go.

[Spikey M]

I'm sure this is a manc_sean/Kiko post from 2007

https://www.thickaccent.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/What-is-the-Norwich-Scarves-meme-and-why-is-it-haunting-Man-United-fans-728x546.jpg

[Don]

My guy's done with Utd :happycry:

There's still 6-12 more months of Ls courtesy of Antony, Onana and all the rest you're due son, stick around.

[randomlegend]

It's alright for you; your club are racist but so are you so it didn't matter.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I know football is a self-perpetuating bubble of delusion, but I just cannot understand how they are so incompetent as not to see how it will play out. Even suggesting it has caused a shitstorm. If they actually do it, the world will collapse in on them at devastating speed. The CEO will be gone in days, maybe hours. I'm surprised the league aren't stepping in, to be honest, it would damage them by association.

[Baz]

Load of bollocks. A few people will pull their face, there’ll be an unnoticeable amount of empty seats for a handful of games max, and then it’ll be back to normal.

[Shindig]

Or, in a much cooler scenario, he gets snapped in half on his return and never plays again.

[Gray Fox]

How long is left on his contract?

As Jim says, things will go south at incredible speed when it is announced. I'm sure the issue United are having is that legally he is innocent and any suspension from duty or any kind of suggestion of training with the reserves for the length of his remaining deal, will likely be met with legal action(he seems the full of himself type to actually believe he's done nothing wrong too). However in the court of public opinion this would be the better way to go. Hopefully their share price tanks too.

Every member of the United squad, both male and female is going to be hounded for their opinion on it until one of them cracks. Then you have another shitstorm. Can you imagine having Sir Marcus having to potentially defend him.

That he hasn't had at least the good grace to fuck off to the middle east is astounding to me. But then again back to the point about him thinking he's not done anything.

[Ian]

United could out-lawyer him if they wanted to. We all know what he did, the evidence is there. I think Jimmy is optimistic in thinking it'll all go that badly for them, unfortunately.

I might also pack it in with them though. Ronaldo was bad enough for a variety of reasons including the probable rape but Greenwood is another level and I really just don't want to cheer a team with him in it or a club that's decided It's fine.

As with the Qatar buyout, I'll see how I feel I'd it happens I guess.

[Giggles]

Baz is correct. A bit of posing on twitter is fine, but fans are mostly cretins and won't give a fuck after his first goal.

[Lewis]

The players will all get a script about him and his young family getting the proper help and support they need etc. We're talking about wallies who are still kneeling for a dead American tweaker because they painted themselves into a corner with it, so this will be straight-forward enough.

[Ben]

Lots of articles going with the “return set to be announced in the coming days” line.

Are we sure this isn’t just the Tory tactic of floating it in the media to gauge reaction, before making an actual decision?

[phonics]

No, The Athletic caught wind that they were about to announce it and so they asked for comment at which point United made that Press Release within an hour of having received the request for comment.

[Don]

It's one thing clubs spending immorally and possibly risking their future existence but Sheff Utd and Luton need to be sanctioned for their lack of ambition and making it an 18 team league with 1 relegation spot. Proper gammon outfits.

[Don]

Also 3 mins in and Kane assists Sane to beat the vintage jokensliga high line from his own fucking half. Those suicidal high lines may prevent him from getting silly numbers in goals but the assists will be filth.

[niko_cee]

Is Berge at Sheff Utd anymore? Whatever happened to him? I thought he was meant to be the nuts.

[Danny]

Burnley bought him this summer iirc

[wullie]

Seeing Hamer starting for Sheffield United makes me think the transfer actually happened and wasn't just the elaborate prank I was hoping it would be.

[niko_cee]

Burnley bought him this summer iirc

:eek:

That fee is pretty disgusting, assuming he isn't now complete wank.

Were Chelsea not informed of his availability?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The players will all get a script about him and his young family getting the proper help and support they need etc. We're talking about wallies who are still kneeling for a dead American tweaker because they painted themselves into a corner with it, so this will be straight-forward enough.

No chance. Think the Super League fallout, but with that entire volume of shit focused on one club.

[Lewis]

Most OUTRAGE campaigns are pushing at an open door. If the club no sells it for long enough people will move on, like they do when comparable things happen in other sports.

[Danny]

:eek:

That fee is pretty disgusting, assuming he isn't now complete wank.

Were Chelsea not informed of his availability?

Don’t think he was linked with Liverpool at all, so probably not.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It clearly is an open door or they'd have announced it long before now, rather than spending their time wanking behind a desk, drawing up lists declaring domestic violence charities to be 'hostile'.

Gary Neville mouth shut tells you all you need to know.

[Waffdon]

Canna believe Fodderingham is starting for a PL team. He was utterly bobbins for rangers years ago

[Ben]

Why is this game on a Friday night but not televised?

[Lofty]

Surely Greenwood voided his contract by bringing the club into disrepute. If he was the next Jay Emmanuel Thomas his contract would have been torn up, let's be honest. It's only because they think he is going to be good that they are trying to brass neck it.

[Don]

Hamer :drool:

[Kikó]

The thing with greenwood is despite him being caught on tape being a rapist and on camera battering his missus, he's also a good footballer which means we have a duty of care to him.

Nothing will happen to the CEO as the owners back him coming back (goals) and don't care and the manager probably backs him.

Re fcum: they've got a lovely stadium and hopefully will have a good season this year.

[phonics]

Why is this game on a Friday night but not televised?

Music Festival and Cricket apparently.

[Dark Soldier]

It's a decent game as well

[-james-]

Kane's got his first Bayern goal (https://streamff.com/v/da0tfmDiXt). He'll have 50 by Christmas with the standard of that defending.

[Baz]

What are those little bottled drinks someone had when he took a knock?

[Dark Soldier]

RE: Greenwood, you're all also forgetting Jonny Evans had the same charges put at him when a teenager. Granted there wasn't the audio etc (Social Media was also in its infancy then), but we chucked him off to Sunderland for a bit on loan and he cracked on having a very good career.

The club won't implode. It'll be some drama then back to business as usual.

[Shindig]

I think back to when one of the Sunderland executives supported Adam Johnson in the wake of his charges. It's not enough to harpoon a club.

[Lofty]

Why is this game on a Friday night but not televised?

Some ridiculous section of the 3pm blackout rule that if a game was originally a 3pm game but rescheduled it can't be televised.

[Dark Soldier]

[Edit: Wrong fred

[John Arne]

There's no way Man Utd try to reintegrate him. They'll announce he's leaving and he'll pop off to Italy, Saudi or Spain.

Agent Arnold (TAA's uncle) is doing his best to create some stories, but even Man Utd won't get this wrong.

Although it would have been LOL to watch all the fans who claimed they will stop supporting them doing a 180 after 2 weeks. My best guess is Lazio, Sassuolo or Al-Ittihad.

[John Arne]

Also, how shit are the Forest commercial team that they are entering a SECOND premier League season with no main sponsor.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've had offers but the owner turned them down as he felt they were too low.

[Gray Fox]

Twitter rumours reckon United are backtracking after seeing how one sided the fan reaction has been.

[Gray Fox]

Sounds like Endo made it into todays squad. I can't imagine he'll start though, so full on chaos midfield again surely.

[Dark Soldier]

Anthony's missus preparing a 70 page document on his domestic abuse and violence. Taz wanking furiously.

[John Arne]

Endo and Bajcetic both on the bench :drool:

Until then we have to put up with Gakpo.

[Don]

Anthony's missus preparing a 70 page document on his domestic abuse and violence. Taz wanking furiously.

It came out 2 months ago, not sure why it went quiet. Great scenes.


Utd also paying off some favela whore to make up domestic abuse accusations to be forced into Greenwood-ing Antony is a move to be respected. You wouldn't think he was the type looking at him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:lol:

[Dark Soldier]

Lol liverpool

[Gray Fox]

Trent with a shocking first 5 mins

[Baz]

Lol liverpool

Well and truly in the mud.

Also Flekken’s distribution is flawless.

[John Arne]

Mitoma :)

[Baz]

Trent with a shocking first 5 mins
Jota is worse. Upper body strength of a newborn.

[Gray Fox]

While I appreciate that attack is probably the best for of defence for Liverpool, this is fucking daft.

[John Arne]

I kinda feel sorry for Konate. Whenever he gets the ball at the back, there's no right back to pass too. He is so isolated.