March '19 football, featuring DERBIES

[Ian]

It's March, there will be football and lots of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uOgyBK1c

Poll to follow.

[Baz]

Everton 0 - 5 Liverpool

:youpi:

[Jimmy Floyd]

I read something interesting yesterday about how hate-filled 'derbies' are largely a creation of the TV era, in order to create hype around matches, and how in the olden days people used to support/respect all the teams from their region. That definitely holds up in the case of my dad, who would have watched his early football in the late 60s and he still backs any other London team if Chelsea aren't playing.

It hadn't occurred to me but it's quite interesting.

[Ian]

How far back is it defining 'TV Era'?

[Jimmy Floyd]

When Michael Thomas scored that goal for Arsenal v Liverpool in 1989.

There are probably some exceptions such as Glasgow Rangers vs Glasgow Celtic.

[phonics]

Yeah, there was no fighting or any anger at local football before '89 :cab:

[Ian]

Yeah but the Old Firm is mostly just bigotry with football tacked on for a laugh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yeah, there was no fighting or any anger at local football before '89 :cab:

I'm not really referring to hooliganism or whatever, just the general feeling around the rivalries.

For example in the Clough era, Nottm Forest and Derby did not HATE each other like they pretend to now in order to try and make their existence mean something.

[phonics]

I'm not really referring to hooliganism or whatever, just the general feeling around the rivalries.

For example in the Clough era, Nottm Forest and Derby did not HATE each other like they pretend to now in order to try and make their existence mean something.

Nonsense rose-tinted nostalgia for an era you didn't even know.

I bet after the game everyone would meet up and shake hands at a jolly good match well played.

[Giggles]

Obligatory one that nobody cares about. (Though Copa90 have a few other good ones in the series too, they're worth a watch if you find ones that you're interested in).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemians%E2%80%93Shamrock_Rovers_rivalry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acRQXajXnJw

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nonsense rose-tinted nostalgia for an era you didn't even know.

I bet after the game everyone would meet up and shake hands at a jolly good match well played.

Do some reading. Things weren't always like they are now.

Liverpool/Everton is arguably still a bit like that.

[phonics]

Do some reading. Things weren't always like they are now.

Liverpool/Everton is arguably still a bit like that.

The game literally originates from the populations of two towns beating the shit out of each other while pretending to try get a ball to the other side.

[thommo]

My grandparents supported Chelsea, and they would always go to Fulham home games when Chelsea played away. I know this is hardly a major rivalry (although we like to think it is), but they always kept an eye out for the Fulham result and wanted them to do well.

That being said, the Fulham-Chelsea game on Sunday is clearly the biggest derby of the month. "Super Scotty Parker" to lead us to a 1-0 win and 9 yellow cards earned.

[Baz]

Liverpool/Everton is arguably still a bit like that.Apart from that time Matthew Pennington (who?) scored and I wanted to deck half of the Bierkeller.

Seriously, who? Prat!

I made decent money on the back of a BTTS and Can/Barkley to be booked bet though, so my hatred for Matthew Pennington was stunted with about 20 mins left to play.

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11651810/chelsea-boss-maurizio-sarri-urges-improvement-from-gonzalo-higuain

Is that even possible?

[Jimmy Floyd]

A striker seems sluggish after joining Chelsea, you say? He might be onto something here.

[SincereTheRebel]

He was already sluggish before he arrived.

[Mellberg]

Villa/Birmingham is on this month, which all joking aside is srz bznz.

[Mike]

Do some reading. Things weren't always like they are now.

Liverpool/Everton is arguably still a bit like that.

Yeah, you still get reds and blues mixing for the derby, though not as much as you used to.

[Spikey M]

Villa/Birmingham is on this month, which all joking aside is srz bznz.

I still remember being on the boz when the derby was on. Absolute bedlam.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fellainimania already running wild in China.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FbgUwrlyt4

Winning goal on his debut with a poachers finish.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Chinese people always sound like they're doing a racist impression of Chinese people.

[Pepe]

Better than Lukaku.

[igor_balis]

Leeds totally battered us. I wish we had bielsa.

[Ian]

Fellainimania is my greatest triumph.

If people are willing to spend as much money on him as the Chinese were I was right all along.

[Lewis]

Have any of these big name foreign imports actually done the business out there? There seem to be foreigners I have never heard of doing so, but, bearing in mind that the quality is somewhere around late-seventies American levels, the star attractions must be phoning it in.

[Pepe]

Most players just take those gigs abroad as vacation, don't they? Ronaldinho was lol when he was in Queretaro.

[igor_balis]

It's like the footballing equivalent of going to teach in some compound in the middle east for like 80k a year. Actually, maybe I should do that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And this is how you use tinder...

[Shindig]

It's like the footballing equivalent of going to teach in some compound in the middle east for like 80k a year. Actually, maybe I should do that.

I know someone that does that. Most people get sick of the sand metropolises after about 3 years but he's still going.

[phonics]

"Look at this beautiful shot, their leader, Harry Kane delivering a team talk in the huddle"

*Cuts to a picture of Harry Kane staring off into the distance with his mouth open*

[The Merse]

Gormless jug eyed cunt was offside.

[SvN]

That second penalty call is absolutely hilarious. I don't think anyone in the stadium thought it was a penalty. Saved anyway.

[Foe]

Ref had an absolute shocker there didn't he?

Two soft pens. Offside on the Kane goal. Rose slides studs up into the keeper and gets a yellow, torreira win the ball and gets a straight red.

Woeful. Arsenal should've won that, but they had the chance to do so and didn't take them.

[phonics]

That Torreira red card has to be turned over on appeal surely? Both penalties were pathetic.

[SvN]

Honestly not sure. He got the ball, but also studded Rose in the shin.

[Foe]

If it's not overturned football is totally broken.

Arsenal should go in with three videos.
1. Sissoko stamping on koscielny. No card.
2. Danny rose studding the keeper, studs up sliding. Yellow card.
3. Torreira winning the ball, momentum taking him into Rose. Red card.

Brutal.

[niko_cee]

Having not seen the tackle, if there is any contact whatsoever (which it sounds as if there is) then it won't be overturned.

[Yevrah]

Fellaini looks like a giant in that video.

The FIFA Inform potential. :drool:

[Shindig]

So ... is Willie MacKay liable for involuntary manslaughter after hiring that untrained pilot?

[phonics]

Honestly not sure. He got the ball, but also studded Rose in the shin.

Considering Rose didn’t get the ball and studded Leno in the chest and got a yellow card. I’m not sure how that matters.

Ref obviously realised he’d absolutely cunted that first pen decision after the Arsenal players went mad and absolutely lost it after that.

[randomlegend]

Chris Smalling is an absolute retard when it comes to shirt pulling. That definitely should have been a penalty and he has about 1 a game on a corner which should be as well.

[randomlegend]

Alternatively he could be a genius given he almost never seems to get pulled up on it. VAR will end his career.

[randomlegend]

That's some hit.

[phonics]

Edit your posts mate, if I needed a minute by minute there's plenty of websites for it.

[randomlegend]

No it's ok.

[niko_cee]

Funny as it is, Southampton need to seriously fuck off with winning at United.

At least Cardiff appear to be doing their best to stay below Brighton.

[Lewis]

Lukaku must have had more out of his right foot this week than over the rest of his career.

[randomlegend]

Dalot looks like a cracking prospect.

EDIT4PHONICS: The fact we'll only be three points behind Spurs in 3rd if we win this is mad. Solksjaer has done an astonishing job. You naysayers can smoke my pipe.

[Lewis]

What sort of THAT WAS HIS FIRST GOAL OF THE SEASON! rage quit-worthy shit is this match?

[randomlegend]

Lukaku's right foot :cool:

EDIT: he should've taken the pen and taken it right-footed. Would've been the chaddest move ever.

[Lewis]

Dalot looks like a cracking prospect.

EDIT4PHONICS: The fact we'll only be three points behind Spurs in 3rd if we win this is mad. Solksjaer has done an astonishing job. You naysayers can smoke my pipe.

I would still sound Smallpockets out, but if he BOTTLES IT (which he will) then 'OGB' should definitely get it.

[SvN]

Dalot looked so much more dangerous than Sanchez. Hopefully he's out injured for the season.

[mo]

Swindon picking up some decent form of late, threatening to threaten the playoffs. It's the hope that kills you.

[Shindig]

Whoops. West Ham were lively earlier in the season and they have some decent players up top. I'd be happy if we sneaked a point.

[Gray Fox]

Rice is going to end up going to City, United or Liverpool for about £60m in the summer.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Why do footballers complain about penalty decisions like that being given against them? Is it like an unwritten rule that you have to complain bitterly to the referee no matter how blatant your offence?

[Giggles]

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[Spikey M]

Top quality levels of salt being chucked about by Celtic fans over this. Whoever they get in next, West Brom or someone should nab him immediately.

[Giggles]

I just seen than Arsenal sending off on the morning news. Phonics must have been on a large bag of it yesterday, though at least it's a change from him small-timing the fuck out of it all over again.

[SincereTheRebel]

Celtic get knocked out of the champions league qualification rounds by teams, from Uganda.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Celtic's last European Cup quarter-final was in 1971 and Leicester's in 2017, what more do you need to know.

[Waffdon]

Fucking hell, we’ve went to a semi final more recently than them? Christ.

[Shindig]

Actually, can we just completely abandon all of Scotland's football? Seems like there's bother on a weekly basis. Some fan decided to try and glass Sinclair yesterday.

[Ian]

With a Buckfast bottle, of course.

[igor_balis]

I actually quite like that Panama themed GAMBLE AWARE advert. Pretty funny but like, with a message you know?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Why is Antonio Conte watching Watford v Leicester in the pissing rain?

[SincereTheRebel]

Actually, can we just completely abandon all of Scotland's football? Seems like there's bother on a weekly basis. Some fan decided to try and glass Sinclair yesterday.

They threw a bottle in his direction. You make it sound like man was being run down with the clean break of a glass bottle. It didnt even have a jagged edge. :lol:

[Shindig]

You don't throw a glass bottle in a person's direction without intending to hit them.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Signs here that strategic titan Sarri is starting to prioritise the Europa League (why are it and its senior partner called 'League'? They are both cups).

[John Arne]

Ousmane Dembele :hat:


https://gyazo.com/40014f3479b0ddd3ddfec8e256853422.gif

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Derp.

[Lewis]

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:lol:

[Kikó]

Dundee United v Inverness on BBC 1 Scotland now for those who fancy REAL FOOTBALL.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If we didn't have N'Golo Kanté we'd be about 14th. He's the best player in the league by such a massive margin. Not even in his right position and still bosses every game.

[Pleb]

Ref has BOTTLED that with a few decisions there.

[Boydy]

Are there no streaming links on footybite?

[SvN]

Are there no streaming links on footybite?

http://bfst.to/play/soccer-1.php

[Boydy]

http://bfst.to/play/soccer-1.php

Cheers!

None of the ones on the old.reddit thingy seemed to work for me either. Streaming's really gone to shit since they closed down r/soccerstreams.

[Vercetti]

As much as I want Colin Farrell to bomb at Everton, and for them to stay below us, I think I'd happily see them get the win today.

They won't, though.

[SvN]

Cheers!

None of the ones on the old.reddit thingy seemed to work for me either. Streaming's really gone to shit since they closed down r/soccerstreams.

Just so you know, I got that link for Footybite. I've watched all three games on it today.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd quite like to have a feed of this game that has neither pictures nor commentary, but just the audio of the crowd noise. Social science (the school of).

[Lewis]

Every stream I choose is just a black screen and commentary, so the worst of all worlds.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well all you have missed so far is 18 cynical fouls and a lot of the Seethe.

[Boydy]

Just so you know, I got that link for Footybite. I've watched all three games on it today.

https://www.footybite.com/football/everton-vs-liverpool-live-stream-preview/

There's nothing on there for me.

[SvN]

You don't see the links?

https://i.imgur.com/7GI0pAY.png

[Disco]

The 'preview' page was broken for me as well but only for this game.

cd6de9687da7d198aeed986fc31f508285d4e0c3 works too.

[Boydy]

You don't see the links?

https://i.imgur.com/7GI0pAY.png

They've literally just appeared now I've clicked the link again. They weren't there a minute ago for me.

[SvN]

To be fair I've just kept the same stream on all day, so it's entirely possible that they've only just updated the page.

[Manc]

Everton are rank. :sick:

[Lewis]

Watching Morgan Schneiderlin somehow find the backwards/sideways option, even when it doesn't look on, is giving me flashbacks.

[John Arne]

Our corners are fucking rank. Why on earth we cant just hit an in-swinger all the time and hope for the best - it's better than these shitty short corners, and floaty out-swingers.

[Boydy]

I'm gonna be raging if this finishes 0-0 after I watched the Bayern game and the United game and then missed the Watford one.

[niko_cee]

For fuck's sake stop watching then!

[igor_balis]

Our corners are fucking rank. Why on earth we cant just hit an in-swinger all the time and hope for the best - it's better than these shitty short corners, and floaty out-swingers.

Any team persisting with out-swingers just strikes me as massively overthinking it, and trying to look clever.

My mate is a Newcastle fan and is constantly bringing up how under Pardew they spent about 2 seasons hoofing every corner to beyond the far post with the intention of someone heading it back across goal, and it never worked.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Willian's started taking corners with the outside of his right this season, with predictable results. Statto analysts just aren't interested in set pieces as they don't result in a goal all that often, the logical conclusion of which is Sarriball.

[Boydy]

Right, I'm not watching another game this season.

[Gray Fox]

That's it then lads. Best give Bayern a good game instead.

[Mike]

United will beat City then their fans can say they won us the league for years.

[Gray Fox]

No United fan or player wants them to beat City.

[Manc]

Do we think Salah is a bit thick? Given any sort of time and he makes the oddest decisions.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The last few times I've seen him he's been more like Chelsea Salah. Gets into good positions and then blows up like a clown car.

[Bob Sacamano]

Chris Sutton definitely drunk on 606.

[Giggles]

Chris Sutton definitely drunk on 606.

Who are Celtic bigger than now then?

[Boydy]

Do we think Salah is a bit thick? Given any sort of time and he makes the oddest decisions.

Possibly. It's infuriating watching him always try to cut back inside on his left foot. Just fucking cross it with your right for once.

Mane seems pretty thick as well.

[Reg]

Pickford thinks he's Ederson with his long kicks. Has the power and none of the accuracy. They were all dreadful today.

niko_cee Were you there yesterday? What a poor game but the goal and the relief around the ground, as well as Andone's happiness, were good. I was looking at Cardiff's run in earlier and it's pretty horrible, so we should be alright.

[Mike]

I think Salah has had an injury all season that he’s playing on. Wouldn’t be surprised if he had an operation in the summer on something.

[SincereTheRebel]

Liverpool really need to sort themselves out.

[Giggles]

Looking at City's last couple of results, they must be playing like dirt too.

[Spikey M]

I think Salah has had an injury all season that he’s playing on. Wouldn’t be surprised if he had an operation in the summer on something.

Ah the good old fashioned Scouse Injury. Sadly it wasn't enough to save Karius.

[Max Power]

Klopp getting rattled by a ball boy and then going on TV and blaming the wind is showing some real signs of “bottling it”

Still think they’ll take it very close and City have a fuck up in them but not great signs.

[SvN]

The stage is all set for Liverpool and City to both capitulate and Ole to drive the United wagon past them to pip them both.

[Lewis]

I would be more than happy to throw the City game.

[Baz]

:(

[niko_cee]

niko_cee Were you there yesterday? What a poor game but the goal and the relief around the ground, as well as Andone's happiness, were good. I was looking at Cardiff's run in earlier and it's pretty horrible, so we should be alright.

No, next game I'm going to is Bournemouth at home.

I can well imagine the atmosphere wasn't great. I heard a lot of groaning after about 15 minutes when they went to the game on Sky. Great result though and Cardiff looking a bit doomed definitely helps. Have Brighton still got to play Cardiff at home? My mind says yes, but they're not on the fixture list - has that been a casualty of the FA Cup which hasn't made it back onto the schedule yet?

[Reg]

Indeed, that and the Chelsea away game (from when they had the League Cup final) to be rearranged.

[Ian]

I would be more than happy to throw the City game.

What, and ruin our title chances?

[Kikó]

United should go all out to beat City. Fuck them both.

[Bernanke]

https://i.imgur.com/2tkhhcA.gifv

Can't embed apparently, but Balotelli had a laugh today

[Mazuuurk]

Legend :D

[phonics]

I just seen than Arsenal sending off on the morning news. Phonics must have been on a large bag of it yesterday, though at least it's a change from him small-timing the fuck out of it all over again.

The main reason being that this happened earlier, in the same match with the same referee and was deemed a yellow card.

https://i.imgur.com/Xwcs16w.jpg

[SvN]

That's not how football rules work.

[niko_cee]

Unlike in virtually every situation where they get more protection, 'keepers tend to get less relative to outfield players in those 'body on the line' collisions. You seem to get more leeway in terms of 'going for the ball' than in pure outfield over the ball/miss the ball situations.

That said, had the ref given Rose a red card, there would be no chance of it being appealed.

[phonics]

That's not how football rules work.

Sorry you’re going to have to point out the rule about going over the ball being worth a yellow sometimes and a red other. One actually getting the ball and following through and one just missing and going studs up on someone’s ribs. Must be an interesting law.

I've given up expecting consistency from game to game but the same bloke in the same game should be able to have two identical decisions be the same. The ref realised he was cocking up left and right and collapsed. Hence why we got that absolute sham of a penalty to 'even it up'. Shit happens but let's not be trying to bring up Point 14 section B of the football laws to say it doesn't.

[SvN]

The two incidents are not related in any way. If the referee made a mistake on one call, it has absolutely no impact on an incident later in the game.

[phonics]

P.S. Is Jurgen about to go on telly and tell people how much he would 'LOVE IT' etc. or have I just seen some clips taken out of context?

[phonics]

The two incidents are not related in any way. If the referee made a mistake on one call, it has absolutely no impact on an incident later in the game.

Narrator: He knew what he was saying was total bollocks but, because it didn't affect his team, will make the argument anyway.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It seemed that he got properly riled by that ball boy. Tried to walk away about 5 times but kept going back for another bite.

[SvN]

Narrator: He knew what he was saying was total bollocks but, because it didn't affect his team, will make the argument anyway.

What are you on about?

[SincereTheRebel]

He blamed the wind at Wolves in the FA cup too.

[SvN]

The injury to Alexis really threw Liverpool off their game.

[Jimmy Floyd]

With refereeing you have to decide if you want 'consistency' or for him to give the right decision as he sees it every time. If you want consistency you have to accept wrong decisions, and if you want right decisions you have to accept inconsistency. These are all highly, highly subjective calls.

[SvN]

I get that it's frustrating, but at the same time, it's moronic to think that "Well he did it earlier and didn't get sent off" is a proper defence to a red card tackle.

[Danny]

What are you on about?

I would like to know this too.

Xhaka should have gone for me and I felt for Torreira, he actually had intent to play the ball but you just can’t do that any more.

[Disco]

They were both red cards, that the officials got one wrong doesn't justify the other one.

[phonics]

They were both red cards, that the officials got one wrong doesn't justify the other one.

Except Danny Rose literally can't be punished for his whereas Torreira can get a four game ban if he decides to appeal it. Very good system of rules.

[SvN]

The ropes have snapped

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How did he get any votes?

[phonics]

Because despite my flaws, my quality and quantity is undeniable. I'm the Edison Cavani of the whole shebang.

[phonics]

While we're on this tour de fource of refereeing competence:

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lol

[bruhnaldo]

Orlando City had our first match Saturday. Went down 2-0 to start despite seemingly bossing proceedings... once we brought Nani on in the 2nd half we looked even more dangerous as to be expected.

Ended up finishing 2-2... we felt we had a strong penalty shout toward the end of the match but VAR didn't overturn the call on the field. Normally I'd post this in World Football That No One Else Cares About but I'd kinda like to hear some unbiased opinions if possible:

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/03/04/did-orlando-city-deserve-penalty-kick-week-1-you-make-call

[Mazuuurk]

I don't get what your point is here phonics?

That the FA should also hand out penalties after the fact (contradicting the decision of the referee at the time), in the same way appeals to have penalties upheaved can be made?

[Disco]

Because despite my flaws, my quality and quantity is undeniable. I'm the Edison Cavani of the whole shebang.

Wonky face and all.

[Pen]

While we're on this tour de fource of refereeing competence:

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That’s odd. I watched the highlights and thought he would definitely be banned retrospectively.

Orlando City had our first match Saturday. Went down 2-0 to start despite seemingly bossing proceedings... once we brought Nani on in the 2nd half we looked even more dangerous as to be expected.

Ended up finishing 2-2... we felt we had a strong penalty shout toward the end of the match but VAR didn't overturn the call on the field. Normally I'd post this in World Football That No One Else Cares About but I'd kinda like to hear some unbiased opinions if possible:

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/03/04/did-orlando-city-deserve-penalty-kick-week-1-you-make-call

I would’ve given a penalty.

[Shindig]

Not deliberate. He's trying to get his hands by his side.

[mo]

Looks unnatural. Pen for me.

[Danny]

Pen for me too

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Penalty, onside, yellow card.

[igor_balis]

5 yard penalty, automatic first down

[Gray Fox]

Nah that's definitely roughing the passer. 15 yard penalty for that one.

[Spikey M]

I'd award 2 indirect free throws.

[niko_cee]

No penalty (too close), no idea about offside (give me a proper angle), not a red unless there is some subtext and then maybe as the guy in white isn't interested in the ball (still probably not a red card).

[bruhnaldo]

Oh you guys.

[John]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11655143/football-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

All penalties being treated like those taken in shootouts is an abysmal idea. Just deeply terrible.

[Giggles]

Change for changes sake. Absolute bullshit.

[Ian]

What possible reason is there for that change to made?

[Spikey M]

Because Vertonghen ran in the box - before Arsenal fucked their penalty up - and gained an unfair advantage. It's caused predictable outrage, despite the fact that 2 of their own players were running into the box when Kane took his.

Bless them.

[Mazuuurk]

Can someone explain why the Real fans seem to hate Gareth Bale? I can't see any conceivable reason why they would?

[SvN]

He's not Ronaldo

[Spikey M]

Or a massive arsehole.

[niko_cee]

Is that penalty rule change for real?

What the fuck?

[Disco]

Can someone explain why the Real fans seem to hate Gareth Bale? I can't see any conceivable reason why they would?

I don't know how true it is but I read that he hasn't bothered to learn the language or integrate into the team very much.

[phonics]

This is a team that booed Ronaldo at times. Logic doesn't come into it.

[phonics]

Because Vertonghen ran in the box - before Arsenal fucked their penalty up - and gained an unfair advantage. It's caused predictable outrage, despite the fact that 2 of their own players were running into the box when Kane took his.

Bless them.

You think the Arsenal lobby is a little too strong considering this is an announcement that was leaked a week or two ago after several months of meetings.

[niko_cee]

Still reelin'.

[phonics]

This piece from the Fulham programme :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D00OwmbXcAEPo4W.jpg

[Spikey M]

That is outstanding :D

[niko_cee]

That's all very good, but I'm not sure you could call his time at Inter a success, by any reasonble standard, although I was surprised to learn he stayed there for a couple of seasons.

Didn't much fancy some Brazilian no-mark they had at leftback, as I recall.

He was certainly no Paul Konchesky.

[niko_cee]

It is remarkable to think how much the football landscape has changed from Woy's days back at Inter.

Fresh off the back of finishing 3rd in the league (no Champions League) and being piloted to an unsuccessful UEFA Cup Final against Schalke (lol), and midway through a domestic torpor that would need all of their rivals to be relegated before it would be broken, Inter were able to go out and buy the best centre-forward in the world from Barcelona, only one extraodinary season after he'd joined them.

"Golaço!" indeed.

[phonics]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11655143/football-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game

All penalties being treated like those taken in shootouts is an abysmal idea. Just deeply terrible.

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Seems to have not even been discussed so take the rest with a pinch of salt I guess.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I kind support that tbh. Rebound penalties always feel cheap.

[bruhnaldo]

I'm always generally gutted for keepers who save the initial pen but get beat by the rebound but I'm not sure it should necessarily be changed.

[Manc]

Fancy Ajax to do bits.

[niko_cee]

I'm always generally gutted for keepers who save the initial pen but get beat by the rebound but I'm not sure it should necessarily be changed.

Yeah, it does always seem an injustice, maybe any change should be that the taker can't follow it in/have the next touch after the 'keeper or post, if a change is needed (it isn't).

[mugbull]

I’ve always thought penalties are stupid. You’re fouled an inch out of the box, near its corner, you get a free kick with an 8% success rate. You get fouled an inch further in and suddenly you’re taking a set piece with an 80% success rate. There’s hardly a tangible difference between the two! It’s so dumb

[Giggles]

I’ve always thought penalties are stupid. You’re fouled an inch out of the box, near its corner, you get a free kick with an 8% success rate. You get fouled an inch further in and suddenly you’re taking a set piece with an 80% success rate. There’s hardly a tangible difference between the two! It’s so dumb

What's the alternative? Some penalty goal guff that's down to interpretation?

[Ian]

I broadly agree with Mokkers on this, or at least see his point, but Giggles has it, there has to be a line somewhere.

[Giggles]

Yeah I definitely think he's right in a way and the more you think about it the more stupid it seems but, as far as I can think anyway, it is probably still the best solution.

I'd be up for narrowing it a bit though, even just near the end lines.

Penalty trapezoid :drool:

[bruhnaldo]

The only real solution would be to make the 18 yard box smaller but surely that's a slippery slope.

Personally, I think it's fine, but I can understand the sentiment.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Really it should be a semi-circle rather than a box. Only problem is it then looks like a hockey pitch and conjours up images of 22 wankers clickety-clacking in skirts.

[Reg]

Fancy Ajax to do bits.
Haven't made my mind up on which game to watch tonight, but I'm leaning towards Ajax. They were the better team for a lot of the first leg I hear? Real Madrid didn't look very good at the weekend.

[SvN]

I'm only switching over to Spurs once they go 2-0 down.

[mugbull]

I think they could take free kicks inside the box. It would be like those rare indirect free kicks from the penalty spot area, except you wouldn’t have to lay it off to anybody.

[Giggles]

I think they could take free kicks inside the box. It would be like those rare indirect free kicks from the penalty spot area, except you wouldn’t have to lay it off to anybody.

If you've a wall it's pointless and an advantage to clean someone out of it. If you've no wall, it's a penalty.

[mugbull]

Of course you could have a wall. And the success rate would be pretty high, but not nearly as high as with a penalty, which is reasonable.

[SvN]

When I think of indirect free kicks in the box I think of Shearer twatting it home for England in the 90s

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you've a wall it's pointless and an advantage to clean someone out of it. If you've no wall, it's a penalty.

Well done, you've just solved the Irish border.

[Manc]

Dortmund team looks strong. :drool:

[Giggles]

Picking up a feed German Sky Sports News here for the CL and TV is weird there. One of the presenters looks like a sketch show joke of a typical American (fat lad with a bad baseball cap) and they actually stopped talking in respect of the champions league anthem :D

[Giggles]

This Margot Dumont bird though.

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ooof.

Ajax have gone 1 up having been on the backfoot thus far.

Lovely finish by Ziyech.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Stunning.

[John]

This Ajax side is going to get picked clean very soon, probably this summer.

[John]

That is some goal.

[Disco]

Wallop.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2-0.

What scenes.

Ajax are leading 3-2 on aggregate right now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dusan Tadic is absolutely beasting this.

[mugbull]

Harry Kane has had about 6 good weeks in the last year. How much could we sell him for? If it's 120+ I'd say do it.

[mugbull]

And Harry Winks has had about 6 good minutes in his entire career

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Neres should have made it 3.

Madrid are all over the place at the back.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ajax doing something in Europe is bang on the 23 year nostalgia window.

[Waffdon]

Tadic for that second goal is the best thing I’ve seen in a long while

[niko_cee]

Does Tadic now fall into the misty-eyed 'what a team we could have had' at Southampton bracket?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Vinicius Jr looks like his Dad has just been shot in front of him.

[SvN]

Just seen that Joachim Low has said that Muller, Boateng and Hummels will no longer be selected for Germany. Seems like a really odd decision, and I don't buy his "we're building for the future" reasoning for one second. Muller is 29 and the other two are 30, they're hardly ancient.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's been huffing on his taint fumes too much.

[bruhnaldo]

I never watch Bundesliga in fairness but I thought Muller was looking shit lately or something though?

[Manc]

Axel Witsel is a properly good footballer. Astonishing that he spent seven years in Russia/China.

[Waffdon]

This is fucking beautiful. Tadic is putting in the best performance in years.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a lovely finish by Tadic but the ball was out of play sadly.

[Serj]

Those camera angles are all useless. :D

[SvN]

If it's not clear and obvious then they shouldn't be getting involved.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Actually I think that stands.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Madrid need 3 now :drool:

[niko_cee]

Unseeded teams fucking shit up.

[-james-]

I live for this. Peter Drury and all.

[Giggles]

What odds would you get on Madrid and Dortmund going through now? Madrid could get 3 in 10 minutes and Spurs are Spurs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Am I right in thinking that Sergio Ramos took a yellow card to miss this game and so be back available for the quarter final?

How can you show your face in public after that?

[SvN]

A Real Madrid goal is required

https://i.imgur.com/SsgT88E.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What odds would you get on Madrid and Dortmund going through now? Madrid could get 3 in 10 minutes and Spurs are Spurs.
There's no chance Madrid are getting back into this. They look toothless going forward and Ajax are causing problems every time they venture into the Madrid half.

Am I right in thinking that Sergio Ramos took a yellow card to miss this game and so be back available for the quarter final?

How can you show your face in public after that?
Yes and UEFA added an extra game to the ban too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I guess that's my fault.

Well in though SvN.

[-james-]

Jizzed tbh.

[bruhnaldo]

Finally got a chance to throw it on and Ajax have scored again :drool:

[-james-]

Am I right in thinking that Sergio Ramos took a yellow card to miss this game and so be back available for the quarter final?

How can you show your face in public after that?

God it must feel so good to be an Ajax fan right now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Schone :drool:

What scenes.

[bruhnaldo]

God it must feel so good to be an Ajax fan right now.

I know it doesn't really count but my buddy decided to start following Ajax toward the end of last year because of a career mode he did on FIFA and I'm lowkey so happy for him right now lol

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bring on The Hunter for the lols you pricks.

[Jimmy Floyd]

God it must feel so good to be an Ajax fan right now.

I always thought Germany 1 England 5 was the peak as far as football ecstasy was concerned, this must be their version.

[Lewis]

Chelsea Twitter's commitment to going mental whenever their old goalie concedes a few is admirable.

[bruhnaldo]

Saw something that said West Brom, 20th in the Prem last season, got more money from TV revenue than Ajax meanwhile Real generated the most revenue for any club in world football.

:drool:

[Disco]

Because, despite all the inevitable wanking over Ajax that we're about to experience, nobody wants to watch them on a rainy Monday away at Dordrecht.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"Ajax’s last away win in the Champions League knockout stages was in March 1997 – it was in Madrid, against Atletico (3-2)."

Fucking hell, what a drought that has been.

[Manc]

Woof.

Can we assume Jose is packing his suitcase?

[Lewis]

Daley Blind. :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Looking at the teams left in, if Man Siddy don't win it this year then they never will.

[Shindig]

Barca, mate. The door's open for it.

[Lewis]

Looking at the teams left in, if Man Siddy don't win it this year then they never will.

I was just thinking that. I bet they would still get Noel Gallagher involved as well the small-time cunts.

[Gray Fox]

I was just about to say someone should snap that De Jong up quick, but a quick google says Barcelona have already done it.

[John Arne]

Massive win for HCMC FC last night. Beat Nam Dinh 2-0 at home before the 4 week mid-season break - meaning with 3 wins out of 3, we sit top of the Wake Up 247 V.League 1 table for the first time in 3 years :drool;

[Spoonsky]

Sergie Ramos :harold:

That is all.

[Spoonsky]

Also, that's the best game Dusan Tadic will play in his entire life.

[Adamski]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3959382/webcam-model-obsessed-fan-steals-250k-football-club/

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3959382/webcam-model-obsessed-fan-steals-250k-football-club/

The Agent spending his money wisely I see.

[Andy]

Also, that's the best game Dusan Tadic will play in his entire life.

Hes always been one of those annoying players who one week puts in a 10/10 performance followed by three months of 3/10s.

[niko_cee]

Looking at the teams left in, if Man Siddy don't win it this year then they never will.

I keep forgetting PSG are still in this. They must be thinking the same.

[Giggles]

You'd imagine Liverpool would be thinking the same, as would Barcelona. I'd see either more likely than Man City.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

De Gea
Young
Smalling
Bailly
Lindelöf
Shaw
Fred
McTominay
Pereira
Lukaku
Rashford

Substitutes

Rojo
Dalot
Romero
Garner
Chong
Gomes
Greenwood

What a bench.

[mugbull]

Who are these people?!

[Giggles]

Is it injuries or has he written it off after the first leg?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pogba is suspended then you've got Sanchez, Matic, Mata, Lingard, Herrera, Martial and possibly a couple of others injured.