The NFL Thread

[Ian]

The Denver coaching situation sounds.... interesting? :uhoh:

Fangio basically giving up the offense altogether to Kubiak (should be a 'yay', in principle ) and Elway (a 'hmm' at best) outside the basic overall coaching stuff doesn't sound ideal but this defence still had potential to be shit hot with a signing or two in the right spots so fingers crossed.

[Giggles]

Is Kubiak not doing it now?

[Ian]

Yeah, I mentioned him and Elway. Kubiak will be calling the plays but I've read a few things talking about Elway's involvement. Which is a concern given as time has gone on it seems his best moves were "sign a hall of fame quarterback " and "let an amazing DC work with an àmazing defense." Which has him a Super Bowl, fair play, but it's not exactly sustainable.

[Giggles]

Yeah, I mentioned him and Elway. Kubiak will be calling the plays but I've read a few things talking about Elway's involvement. Which is a concern given as time has gone on it seems his best moves were "sign a hall of fame quarterback " and "let an amazing DC work with an àmazing defense." Which has him a Super Bowl, fair play, but it's not exactly sustainable.

I thought Kubiak turned it down though?

[Dan]

Yeah, he was OC for about two days then changed his mind. Broncos were after the 49ers QB coach to replace him but weren’t allowed to interview him.

[Giggles]

Yeah, he was OC for about two days then changed his mind. Broncos were after the 49ers QB coach to replace him but weren’t allowed to interview him.

I think the Packers were too.

[Ian]

I thought Kubiak turned it down though?

Ohhhh. I a) missed the news and b) thought you meant it the other way around.

Catching up on it again now it, again, sounds like he had different ideas to Elway about how they should be going about it. Ugh.

[Giggles]

Out of those two, he's not the one you'd want going.

[Ian]

If Elway is this controlling about the offensive stuff and it all goes tits up then he must be gone next year.

You'd think. :moop:

As time goes on the more it looks like all the non-Manning stuff about the team in that first year or two was just happy coincidence rather than the grand plan he was managing to make it look like.

[Giggles]

That'll be interesting.

https://pitchfork.com/news/faith-no-mores-mike-patton-to-sing-national-anthem-at-the-nfl-playoffs/

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm going for Colts, Chargers, Rams and Saints this week.

Pats don't look anywhere near as scary as they usually are (usually means they go on to win the fucking thing but still) and Chiefs don't have a defence for playoff football.

Gurley will steamroll the Cowboys and Eagles will finally shit themselves out of it.

[Gray Fox]

I'm just hoping for us to put up a fight. This recovery has been very encouraging despite mass injuries. I'm slightly worried how we perform better as a team under Foles than Wentz though.

[Dan]

I want Mahow's picks to be correct, but I can't help feeling the Patriots will do what they always do, Philly will step up, Dallas will shit their way to a 17-14 win & KC will win a shootout.

[Giggles]

Hope:
Kansas City
Dallas
LA Chargers
New Orleans

Reckon:
Indianapolis
LA Rams
LA Chargers
New Orleans

[Giggles]

Please make it last :drool:

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's fuck all on the pitch :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ebron :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That run was great.

[Dan]

This isn't looking good for everyone who's jumped on the Colts bandwagon lately.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Colts look rancid.

[Dan]

Now they know how Houston must have felt last week.

[Foe]

Yeah. If the colts defence haven't realised ball in hills hands running at speed is a bad thing it's going to be a long ride.

Big possession here. If the Chiefs march and score again the colts could crumble.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Should probably try plugging the middle on 4th and 1's too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mahomes doesn't look good on that knee.

[Dan]

He'll probably be fine by the time they come back on the field, or by the second half at worst. Colts really need it to be something that takes away his mobility for the rest of the game though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Game on.

Nice of the Chiefs to part like that for Goode.

[Dan]

Well that's what we needed to get something going (except KC will probably go up & score a TD now)

Was that 'So Long Astoria' by The Ataris on the cutaway? :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hill and Kelce are ripping this defence.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did Mahomes just use a 'Hellen Keller' call?

[Dan]

Hill and Kelce are ripping this defence.

That's shameful, really. I know the Colts basically just play zone, but surely you have to gameplan to take at least one of them away?

If Sammy Watkins & the run game beat you that fine, but not the two players that make up like half of their total offence. It's like playing the Saints & letting Thomas & Kamara beat you.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Old prick.

[niko_cee]

A little bit early to start lolling, but Vinateri hitting the post was quite funny.

If Kansas score on their first possession back that should be the game.

[Dan]

Colts have just completely bottled this. Can't even get a fourth down stop without a penalty.

Giving it the full Val Venis at the referee :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Leonard with the fumble \0/.

[Dan]

This HAS to be a TD, and the Colts defence HAS to force a quick punt on their next series.

EDIT: Well, it wasn't either of those. GG Indy :wave:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What's the fucking point?

[Dan]

Dee Ford is going to get some good money this offseason.

[Dan]

Sounds like we're going to have two more Alabama declarations too - CB Saivion Smith (the guy Justyn Ross killed on his long TD) has officially declared, and Deionte Thompson (the guy Justyn Ross ran then straight by on the same play) is unofficially expected.

Thompson should be a first rounder, despite a shaky run in the playoffs, and Smith will likely be a mid-round guy, but it's reassuring to hear him declare as it must mean his injury wasn't serious.

Tyree Jackson added to the Senior Bowl roster as well, which should be interesting. He's 6' 7" with a monster arm, but he played for Buffalo so it'll be interesting to see him against a full team of good college players.

[Dan]

Have we just witnessed the end of Adam Vinatieri? This would be a one score game if he'd made both those kicks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was a really cool idea at an onside.

[Dan]

That running into the kicker penalty is 100% lol, not that it really makes much difference to the outcome of the game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

3 total possessions, 3 total TD's.

[Foe]

Yeah. Not been great defence here.

That Patriots td wa as td from the snap. An absolutely massive hole on the line.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pats are on fire.

[Dan]

Chargers gon' Charger

[Giggles]

They just seem to know when to peak.

[Foe]

3 possessions on offence. 21 points.

That's not a good omen to winning at Gillette.

[Gray Fox]

Pats going to Arrowhead like this is going to be some game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

[Giggles]

They're in machine mode tonight.

[thommo]

This weekend has been a complete letdown so far.

Saints-Eagles is needs to be an absolute classic.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A punt? They've turned to fucking shit.

[Giggles]

The Packers could regret knocking back McDaniels.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Packers could regret knocking back McDaniels.

He'd end up deciding to stay at the Patriots at the last minute anyway.

[bruhnaldo]

well this game is shit

[Giggles]

A punt? They've turned to fucking shit.

:uhoh:

[Giggles]

That replay from the field makes it look like he went over the ball and didn't control it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Does Jim Nantz not make you all want to slit your wrists? I know him from golf where he is the most sycophantic saccharine twat in the business, I just put this on and I'm pretty sure that's his voice again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It is.

He's not as bad as Al Michaels, Collinsworth and a couple of others though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Troy Aikman is by far the worst though.

I have yet to sit through a whole game in which he has commentated.

[Gray Fox]

Collinsworth. Now there's a guy.

[Giggles]

Does Jim Nantz not make you all want to slit your wrists? I know him from golf where he is the most sycophantic saccharine twat in the business, I just put this on and I'm pretty sure that's his voice again.

It's balanced out by having Romo there.

[bruhnaldo]

I don't really think there's a single commentator for NFL that I enjoy listening to. Even Romo has gotten kinda full of himself after the initial "oMg hE rEalLy kNoWs FoOtBaLL" thing took off on social media.

[Giggles]

Whoever it is, just be glad they're not Kevin Harlan.

[Giggles]

There's a good reason for a power nap during the Superbowl anyway.

[niko_cee]

I know it's the way things are now, but is anybody going to bother to play defence in the playoffs or is that officially no longer a thing?

Makes for such shit games.

Was really hoping that unblocked edge rusher that made it to Brady was just going to full helmet kill him when he got it out to Gronk, but absent a flag I guess he didn't.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's a good reason for a power nap during the Superbowl anyway.

:D

You don't want to move like Jagger?

[Giggles]

:D

You don't want to move like Jagger?

I'll never forgive either them or Hyundai for that ad that was on every single commercial break during the whole world cup.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eight kids? Try a condom, Phil.

[bruhnaldo]

If I was rich I'd have like 15 kids fuck that, why not?

Might make them less of spoiled little brats if they know daddy's riches will get split 15 ways and they might actually have to work a little bit.

[Giggles]

If I was rich I'd have exactly the same amount as I have now.

[John]

If you were rich enough to raise fifteen children in comfort you'd be rich enough that splitting your cash fifteen ways would still mean retirement money for each of them. The proceeds from the sale of your sixteen bedroom house alone would set them up for life.

[niko_cee]

'Rich enough' or just live in Morcombe?

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Breesus :harold:

[Giggles]

Fucking hell Game Pass is brutally behind, you could barely call it 'live'. Game hasn't even kicked off on it.

[Giggles]

:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The worked out well for the Saints.

Especially as Graham never had that.

[Giggles]

The worked out well for the Saints.

Especially as Graham never had that.

Was a bullshit decision originally.

[Gray Fox]

Damn we did not need that.

21-0 would have been hard to come back from. 14-7 could be coming up shortly.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was questioning why they wouldn't go for it there but then they did.

[Giggles]

I could have told the Eagles that was happening.

[Gray Fox]

Our defence is losing players every other drive. Not a chance we keep this going all game.

[Gray Fox]

Fucks sake. It was nice whilst it lasted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Doesn't count but that was a nice pass by Hill.

[Giggles]

Well it was good while it lasted but there's only one winner from here and I really need to be in work for 7.

[Giggles]

I see the real reason that Murray lads 'heart is with football' now. He's hitting the A's up for another $15m to stay with baseball :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

When you think it might be game on and then that happens.

[Gray Fox]

Well, fuck. :(

[Dan]

At least we got one close game this weekend.

Those first couple of drives for both teams were about as bad for the Saints as they could've been, but - as we're going to hear a thousand times - the fake punt got some momentum going & from then on Michael Thomas just started rolling. Sheldon Rankins going out with an ACL injury is a big blow, but the run defence was still strong & we remembered how to cover for the final three quarters.

Definitely need to consider getting replacements for Andrus Peat & PJ Williams this year - Peat's versatility is huge, especially as Terron Armstead gets hurt all the time, but he's clearly the weak link among the starters, and PJ Williams just isn't that good & never has been. I know Patrick Robinson is our slot guy when he's healthy, but it'd be nice to have a better option that PJ as the alternative.

[Gray Fox]

We came out and started on fire. I said at the time not getting that extra score to take it to 21-0 whilst we were well on top, was pivotal. I don't think any team would come back on us from that far back.

In the end the effort to get this far with the back ups to our back ups playing in the back 4 was amazing. We also managed it without a decent RB really.

It's going to be an off season of difficult decisions now. We have to make a decision on Foles. It's more than likely time he is to be traded away. Given how he's gone in the last 2 seasons we'll likely get some good draft capital for him. Maybe even a first(hello Oakland). That's going to be hard to turn down. But my problem with this is two fold.
Firstly I think our style is much more suited to having Foles in over Wentz, but second, this is the 2nd straight season now Wentz has been unavailable for play-off time. Shows us we really ought to have a good back-up guy.

[Dan]

Top two linebackers in the class Devin White & Mack Wilson in, along with the second Iowa TE TJ Hockenson.

Still not seen anything official from Kyler, but he’s probably sitting watching the A’s roll wheelbarrows full of money to his door.

[John]

Kyler is entering the draft. With all his fucking about I hope he falls pretty far down the rounds then gets flattened in his first game. He seems like a proper little shithouse.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't know what he's thinking.

He has the physique of a teenager and will get mullered.

You'd need the greatest o-line of all time and tell him to never leave the pocket.

[Dan]

Wasn't going to watch him until he declared, so hopefully people will start throwing up cutups over the next few days, but just watching some of his game highlights:


He's actually very good at protecting himself. I watched a couple of games & saw him run several times but he never took a big hit - only took contact on designed runs, when he scrambled he was always sliding or getting out of bounds. He's seriously fast too. Not Loomar fast, but 4.4 fast, and he's got great balance & change of direction. Might actually be a better open field runner than Jackson
Kid has a big ol' arm for someone built like a thirteen year old. Can drive it to the sideline from the far hash & it'll scream there - not watched Haskins but he's up there with Drew Lock for strongest arm in the class. He's also got the baseball background that has helped out guys like Mahomes & Wilson when it comes to making all those crazy throws at weird angles.
Accuracy is pretty good at all levels, although he is playing on a great team in the Big 10 where there are about four draftable defenders in the entire conference, so maybe that had something to do with it. Then again, that's what people said about Baker.
CeeDee Lamb is a stud, and the 2020 WR class (along with most other parts of the class) is looking obscene.

Definitely more impressed with him than I expected to be. Not sure whether I'd actually give him a first round grade, but he'll go there - he's better than Loomar for sure, it's literally only the size that's the issue. If he was three inches taller he'd be a top 5 pick & nobody would question it. You just don't know how long his body will hold up if he does take some hits, and whether if that happens he'll suddenly start fancying baseball again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't know if he will go in the first round.

He's shorter than Wilson (by 2 inches) and he dropped to round 3 because of issues regarding his height.

He probably has small hands so when that measurement is taken people will freak out.

[Foe]

Isn't the fact that Wilson has been successful despite the height a positive though? I don't think Kyler slides as far as Wilson did for the same reason. Wilson also didn't win a heisman though, did he?

I'd rather have kyler than Lamar. Watching kyler at Oklahoma you had faith he'd fine a receiver if required. The thing that will get him is the risk he flies off to another sport.

[Dan]

All the ‘he might go first overall’ sources were out before he declared, now immediately everyone’s sources are saying ‘second or third round’ :sherlock:

I think it’s going to hang on how well he interviews & how much he participates in the offseason stuff like the combine compared to baseball stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Isn't the fact that Wilson has been successful despite the height a positive though? I don't think Kyler slides as far as Wilson did for the same reason. Wilson also didn't win a heisman though, did he?

I'd rather have kyler than Lamar. Watching kyler at Oklahoma you had faith he'd fine a receiver if required. The thing that will get him is the risk he flies off to another sport.

Wilson played actual defences in his conference and had more experience.

[Jimmy Floyd]

From what I've read he's not that good at baseball anyway (although it's hard to project) and the route to the top is far harder in baseball than it is in football, so he's as well taking the helmetball dollar and if he crashes and burns he can always do a Tim Tebow, who I was shocked to see rocking up in double A for the Binghamton Rumble Ponies and actually posting some half reasonable numbers.

The As drafting him first round to start with was weird, think Billy Beane has been on the sauce or something.

[Dan]

Wilson played actual defences in his conference and had more experience.

Trubisky started 13 games in college & went second overall. Quinnen Williams has played about as many games & will probably go top five.

Mayfield played in the exact same offence last season & balled out in the NFL, and Mahomes played better in the NFL than he did in college.

If teams want to take him early they can find a way to deflect any concerns. Baker going first overall last year & playing like he did might have knocked (some of) the doors down for short QBs too, especially for teams with creative offensive staff that can build a scheme around them.

EDIT: Brandon Wimbush transferring to UCF for next season. They’re fucked. Guarantee they’ll lose at least three games next year.

:uhoh:

[Giggles]

The Colts dumping their O-Line coach is an odd one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"DeGuglielmo was the only offensive coach hired before Josh McDaniels turned his back on the Colts' job. Reich wants to bring in his own guy, per Garafolo."

I never understand this bullshit. He was good, who cares if he wasn't 'your guy'.

[bruhnaldo]

Cause presumably you have a buddy you came up with in the coaching ranks that you want to try and help given your new position.

Plus, you have a general idea of what that person is thinking, their work ethic, etc. etc.

Rather bring in a guy who you know is going to fall in line with your ideas on how to run that unit rather than clash over simple shit and then create some kinda issue. Nevermind they're largely an unknown to you otherwise.

At least, that's my line of thinking.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Turning the Colts O-Line from one of the worst to one of the best probably should see you hang on to your job ahead of a yes man.

[bruhnaldo]

I mean I see what you're saying but think of it like you're doing a group project at school.

Would you rather work with someone you know and have worked with before, assuming you think that person can do a good job? Or, someone you don't know entirely, how you mesh together, etc.?

Though I do appreciate that the guy in question did a great job, I can at least follow the logic in wanting to bring in your own guy to some extent, whether that works for them or not is the gamble.

[Dan]

You almost hope their line turns to shit again next season. Must have been some differences of opinion between them, surely? Getting rid of the guy if you got on well & he did that good of a job is insane, regardless of whether you’ve got a mate who can step in or not.

[Giggles]

Apparently he's a massive prick, whether that played into it or not.

[Dan]

It would make sense at least.

Speaking of people who seem like pricks, Ohio State QB Tate Martell - the one from the first season of QB 1 on Netflix who’s always looking in the mirror - has transferred to Miami after Justin Fields showed up, having copped a strop to a reporter in their bowl game. (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25729548/ohio-state-buckeye-quarterback-tate-martell-enters-name-ncaa-transfer-portal-according-source)

Committed to Washington & Texas A&M before signing with Ohio State, which probably should’ve given a clue about his loyalty.

He probably will start for Miami, since (a) Rosier & Perry have both proven themselves to be shit; and (b) I don’t believe he’d go anywhere that wouldn’t have guaranteed him the job, so he’s going to have to prove he’s got the talent to back up the attitude.

He crushed high school, to be fair, so he’s got something, it’s just whether he can translate that to college & win with his arm & brain rather than his legs.

[thommo]

DeGuglielmo has done a good job with the Colts OL, but they have got some top talent in there too now, 3 first rounders in the line all playing well so I'd back Reich to bring in someone equally competent.

Also read that DeGuglielmo basically froze out Denzelle Good, called him "a failure" and "disrespectful to him" because he left the team for a few days as his brother was murdered. :moop: Good apparently didn't play another down for the Colts and asked to be cut, and he's now at the Raiders.

[Dan]

That’s pretty bad if true. Definitely makes sense to get rid of him if that’s the type of guy he is, regardless of who well he coached the line.

[bruhnaldo]

It would make sense at least.

Speaking of people who seem like pricks, Ohio State QB Tate Martell - the one from the first season of QB 1 on Netflix who’s always looking in the mirror - has transferred to Miami after Justin Fields showed up, having copped a strop to a reporter in their bowl game. (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25729548/ohio-state-buckeye-quarterback-tate-martell-enters-name-ncaa-transfer-portal-according-source)

Committed to Washington & Texas A&M before signing with Ohio State, which probably should’ve given a clue about his loyalty.

He probably will start for Miami, since (a) Rosier & Perry have both proven themselves to be shit; and (b) I don’t believe he’d go anywhere that wouldn’t have guaranteed him the job, so he’s going to have to prove he’s got the talent to back up the attitude.

He crushed high school, to be fair, so he’s got something, it’s just whether he can translate that to college & win with his arm & brain rather than his legs.

As a huge Miami guy I can only pray. I haven't seen QB1, though, but two of his teammates (including one that just transferred from USC) play here as well so maybe that'll help him stay grounded.

Ohio State people were all saying "good riddance" to the drama so that's a bit worrying but we need all the help we can get at QB. Rosier is gone, thank God, Perry is still young and has some potential but is a bit of a knucklehead himself, and we don't have a QB committed in the 2019 class as of now, so...

Hiring Alabama's OC has supposedly put us on the map with a couple QB prospects but we'll see. Getting Jalen Hurts as well in the 'transfer portal' would do a lot to help this problem but I think he goes to Oklahoma or Maryland (where the OC he actually played under at Alabama went).

[Dan]

Forgot Rosier was a senior. He’ll do well to get drafted - I don’t think he’s even playing at the NFLPA Bowl this week :D

He’s definitely not at the Shrine Game, which is running this week. Sounds like Brett Rypien & Jordan Ta’amu have been doing well there, along with WRs Terry Godwin (Georgia) & Ryan Day (Auburn), and DTs Daniel Wise (Kansas) & Daylon Mack (Texas A&M).

Some small school guys showing up too - KeeSean Johnson (WR, Fresno State who was already a sleeper), BJ Blunt (LB, McNeese State) and Olisaemeka Udoh (OT, Elon) have all had some positive talk, even though I’m pretty sure those last two schools are made up.

[bruhnaldo]

Rosier would do lucky to make it to the Canadian league tbqh.

[Dan]

Jalen Hurts is off to Oklahoma (http://www.espn.co.uk/college-football/story/_/id/25778069/alabama-quarterback-jalen-hurts-transfer-oklahoma-senior-season).

Not sure Hurts will do as well as Baker & Kyler have there, but a strong season as a passer would be a huge boost to his draft stock, and it gives Oklahoma time to develop their incoming freshman Spencer Rattler.

I also forgot that Tate Martell will have to sit out for a year as he's transferred. I'd find it hilarious if Nkosi Perry ran away with the job this year & then beat him out after he'd spent a year on the sidelines :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Panthers are saying that they might sit Newton next season.

They can have Flacco or RGIII for a third rounder.

[Foe]

Jalen Hurts is off to Oklahoma (http://www.espn.co.uk/college-football/story/_/id/25778069/alabama-quarterback-jalen-hurts-transfer-oklahoma-senior-season).

Not sure Hurts will do as well as Baker & Kyler have there, but a strong season as a passer would be a huge boost to his draft stock, and it gives Oklahoma time to develop their incoming freshman Spencer Rattler.

I also forgot that Tate Martell will have to sit out for a year as he's transferred. I'd find it hilarious if Nkosi Perry ran away with the job this year & then beat him out after he'd spent a year on the sidelines :D

Imagine fields loses his appeal and he has to sit out at Ohio state too. :D

That's a seriously big set of shoes to fill in Oklahoma for hurts. But good if they run a similar system and sort of force him to pass. If he struggles he's not NFL calibre. If he improves and thrives his draft stock gets elevated. Win or bust.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Harbs has agreed an extension so a big trade offer would need to come in for him to leave.

[Gray Fox]

Foles missed part of a drive in the last game of regular season to get an injury checked over, that caused him to miss a bonus incentive for $1m by 4 snaps. Eagles paid him it today anyway. Looks like trying to keep him sweet.

[Foe]

Going to try and stay up for the first game, doesn't kick off until 8.05pm annoyingly. Second game I'll record though.

Going to be tough avoiding the scores tomorrow. I also normally book off Super Bowl Monday, but this year I've got two damn important meetings that day so going to have to turn my phone off and pray nobody ruins it for me. Or break my sleeping cycle to watch it. Doable. But it would be painful.

[Giggles]

I've Monday fortnight off but if I'd copped these were at such stupid times I'd have done this week too.

[Pleb]

Butchering the anthem.

Amazing.

[Giggles]

Is he a singer? I vaguely know the name but after that I hope he's an actor.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy fucking Buffett.

Pissing hell.

[Foe]

That anthem was so terrible it was brilliant. Mic drop too. That's going viral.

Chiefs and saints wins tonight please. :yn: a Rams win wouldn't be a disaster either. Just not another patriots Super Bowl appearance please.

[Pleb]

Rams versus anyone but Patriots would be anyone's dream Super Bowl.

[Foe]

Apparently that dude is a musician.

If that's not a sign of the American dream, I don't know what is. Jesus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is he a singer? I vaguely know the name but after that I hope he's an actor.

He's a singer, here is his best selling single:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue2-ZVxpVjc

[Browning]

They reckon the Chiefs are going to renew Mahomes at the end of next season (the earliest they can) and make him the first $200m player. Fucking hell.

[Pleb]

Saints versus anyone but Patriots would be anyone's dream Super Bowl.
Fixed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So Saints against the Chiefs because the Chiefs are the only ones other than the Patriots that can make it there...

[Pleb]

What a catch...I mean drop.


So Saints against the Chiefs because the Chiefs are the only ones other than the Patriots that can make it there...
Well yeah because everyone hates the Patriots (and Chiefs for that matter).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm also surprised that Aikman even bothered turning up.

He must be seething that the Cowboys aren't here.

[Giggles]

I want the Patriots to make it. Can't help but admire the machine.

[Pleb]

Right at him :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gurley :harold:

[Pleb]

Well the first 5 minutes or so have been lol so far.

[John]

Rams offense look fucking terrible.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brockers is an idiot.

4th down you don't jump early.

[Giggles]

Rams offense look fucking terrible.

Even though they keep going on about it, the noise shouldn't be underestimated.

Still though, the Saints need to start making this good start count. EDIT: There it is.


_

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only his second ever catch.

[Giggles]

I hate that fucking song in the ad for the shit iPhone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hekker is actually a decent passer.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gurley is catching like his rookie year.

[niko_cee]

The anthem was class, best version ever.

Amateur hour from the Saints on that punt/pass play. They should have been well aware of the danger.

[Giggles]

Now we're talking.

[niko_cee]

Shaping up nicely, especially if LA can score on the first possession of the second half. I think my prior dislike of them is somewhat misplaced.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Saints have become somewhat likeable for me because of Thomas and Kamara.

Brees can still fuck off though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Saints are dangerous now, you can't let them get Kamara and Ingram going full swing.

[Giggles]

Rams fucked up by not challenging that spot.

[Giggles]

Worked out anyway.

[igor_balis]

Delighted I booked tomorrow off. I like the Saints but I'm glad this is looking competitive. Memory is hazy of details, but it feels like most playoff games have been blowouts this season.

[igor_balis]

Got a tenner on Saints Patriots superbowl which sorta reduces my desire for a tight game.

[igor_balis]

Giving Taysom Hill plays as a QB in an NFC championship game reminds me of playing 17 year old regens upfront in champions league finals 10 seasons into FM games when I'm bored and trying to make it more of a challenge.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They really should have gone for that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Game over with that pass.

Well done McVay...

[Giggles]

That's the game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That really was such a bad call by McVay.

I'd rather be down by 3 but the ball be on the 1 yard line (or 4 up ofc) than tied against this Saints team but with them at the 25 or so.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why fucking pass there? Just run it a bit as you're in field goal range and you take time off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

By not rushing on first down they've turned a pretty much guaranteed win into asking your defence to make a stop.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and like fuck that's not interference.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's a double penalty if anything.

He went way too early with the hit and it was helmet to helmet.

[Giggles]

Oh and like fuck that's not interference.

That's given 99% of the time. Horrendous call.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I would have said 100% before that no call.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought he pushed that wide for a second.

[Giggles]

That took some swing in late.

[niko_cee]

Surfside mansions all round for the officiating crew if the Rams get over the line here.

[thommo]

Rams to win in OT please.

Just to see Payton losing his shit again :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Loving the chorus of boos for the refs.

[thommo]

They missed a facemask on Goff before the Rams settled for 3 so they have nothing to moan about.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've missed some holding calls for both teams too.

It's just a proper shit crew who don't want to throw flags.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wild flag has appeared...

[Giggles]

They've just made up for that one. Done their best anyway.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If Michael Thomas doesn't push him over than that's just incomplete.

[niko_cee]

This has the feel of the Minnesota miracle in reverse.

[Giggles]

Shiiiiiiiit.

[niko_cee]

They missed a facemask on Goff before the Rams settled for 3 so they have nothing to moan about.

I dunno.

There was another massive interference non-call which would have given New Orleans a first down at the 30-odd when they ended up having to punt it away after that good field start in the third quarter (?).

[Giggles]

That was a fairly damp drive. Settling for a 57 yard kick?

[niko_cee]

:D

What a kick. Probably had another 20 yards on it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol.

Saints are going to be like Liverpool now.

Justice for the missed PI.

[Giggles]

Packers pick 30th :cool:

[niko_cee]

They already have one of those campaigns.

[Giggles]

I'm going to be so fucked tomorrow.

[Dan]

:moop:

Those missed flags were probably both bad calls, but we just don't have the edge to be able to finish out these games - two seasons in a row we've let it slip through our fingers when we should have won.

We need a new guard to send Andrus Peat to the bench, a TE who can actually be a dynamic receiver, a safety & another cornerback. Hopefully we can get one or two of those in free agency so we can be a bit more flexible in the draft, but we'll see.

[niko_cee]

I dearly want to watch the Chiefs game, but I can't justify it. I'll just have to try and avoid the result tomorrow (before obviously being torpedoed out of the blue by the first local radio NFL report ever or something at 5pm).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm disappointed with Sean Payton.

He should have shit all over the refs there and taken the fine. Instead he sounded like he might top himself.

[Browning]

Rams :drool:

Now for the Pats to lost tonight to set up the dream Super Bowl.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not a chance the Patriots lose.

They're a machine in the playoffs (I was stupid to write them off last week) and the Chiefs don't have a defence.

[thommo]

I need to be up at 6am for work but I know I wont make it through the day without finding out the result so fuck it, I'm staying the course.

[Giggles]

Rams :drool:

Now for the Pats to lost tonight to set up the dream Super Bowl.
Another 100 pointer :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I need to be up at 6am for work but I know I wont make it through the day without finding out the result so fuck it, I'm staying the course.

Hero.

[igor_balis]

aye two of my work colleagues are chatting with me on fb about the games despite being in at 8.30 tomorrow.

one of them is hosting a super bowl party despite not being able to get the day off work. he's driving to r-town to pick me and my mate (who he's never met before) up at like 11pm, then is gonna drive us back home en route to work at 8am. what an absolute fucking hero.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This Chiefs D is just so soft.

The only good thing they have is their pass rush.

[igor_balis]

patriots are gonna fucking dick em aren't they

[John]

Chiefs are going to get pumped here.

[igor_balis]

Chiefs are going to get pumped here.

aye i think so

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Their rushing defence is embarrassing right now.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, this is rough.

On the upside, rather than just avoid the result tomorrow, I can simply avoid the NFL for the next 8 months or so.

[igor_balis]

Massive play

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That makes things interesting.

They should have run it there though seeing as how good Michel has been.

[Giggles]

Needed that.

[igor_balis]

As a pretty casual fan, ain't getting intercepted in the red zone pretty unforgivable? Especially leading 7-0 away from home in the championship game. Maybe it was a great defensive play but it feels like unnecessarily hazardous play.

[Browning]

Tell that to the Seahawks....

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a great catch by White.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Is that game?

Stunning.

[John]

That's probably game, unless Mahomes improves about four hundred percent on that first half.

[igor_balis]

If I hadn't booked tomorrow off I'd be going to bed now. Hope it improves. Who got first possession in the first half? Can't remember.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If I hadn't booked tomorrow off I'd be going to bed now. Hope it improves. Who got first possession in the first half? Can't remember.

Patriots.

[John]

Why would the Chiefs not use a TO there and at least try one of those eighty yard Mahomes to Hill rockets they've been doing all season?

[Dan]

All the talk about everything changing after the first month of the season & it's going to end with another Patriots SuperBowl :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why would the Chiefs not use a TO there and at least try one of those eighty yard Mahomes to Hill rockets they've been doing all season?

Teams are quite cautious with this.

They don't do it unless they absolutely have to as it has a low percentage but I don't see the harm.

[igor_balis]

Why would the Chiefs not use a TO there and at least try one of those eighty yard Mahomes to Hill rockets they've been doing all season?
imagine if it was a pick 6 though

[John]

It's much higher percentage with those two than anyone else, and it's not like there's a huge risk of the Pats getting back up the field and scoring again with eight second or whatever it is left should they miss it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

imagine if it was a pick 6 though

It wouldn't be, you rarely even see a hail mary intercepted because defences are taught to bat it down.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's much higher percentage with those two than anyone else, and it's not like there's a huge risk of the Pats getting back up the field and scoring again with eight second or whatever it is left should they miss it.

No, it would still be low.

Patriots would know about it and therefore rush only 3 and leave 8 very deep to stop it.

Tyreek Hill and his speed would be a non-factor.

[Gray Fox]

Andy Reid bottling the Championship game? Well I never.

[John]

No, it would still be low.

Patriots would know about it and therefore rush only 3 and leave 8 very deep to stop it.

Tyreek Hill and his speed would be a non-factor.

I didn't say it would be high, just higher than with others.

That's all fine, but surely when you're fourteen points down having not really got going, and you have what amounts to as close to a free hit as you'll get in this sport, even a one in a thousand shot, you take it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I didn't say it would be high, just higher than with others.

That's all fine, but surely when you're fourteen points down having not really got going, and you have what amounts to as close to a free hit as you'll get in this sport, even a one in a thousand shot, you take it.

Oh I would but NFL coaches are very cautious about it.

I'm sure there are reasons behind it.

[igor_balis]

quality.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Game on then.

Two really nice passes by Mahomes.

[John]

If Mahomes doesn't release almost immediately he isn't very good. His decision making when he has people coming at him is abysmal.

Long term I think both Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff will be better all round QBs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Edelman :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I genuinely can't tell if that touched him or not.

[John]

I don't think it did.

[Gray Fox]

He's touched that at the moment it bounces with his fingertips. If not, then it's sailed through.

[igor_balis]

i think you have to stay with the onfield decision there, just cus it's impossible to call either way. nfl needs snicko

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah I don't see how you can change it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well it is the Patriots...

[igor_balis]

fucking patriots

[John]

If the rule says they need indisputable evidence to overturn a decision, it should have stood. I don't think he touched it, but it's far from conclusive so they've fucked that.

EDIT - Excellent. That's sorted it out.

[Gray Fox]

Edelman to score now to rub it in.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Edelman tipping it for a pick :D

Justice I guess.

[Gray Fox]

And clattering him for good measure.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Belichick is seething.

[John]

About ninety percent sure Belichik has called someone a 'fucking pussy' there. :D

[Gray Fox]

There's a big fuck you drive coming up from the Pats here.

[John]

How the fuck is that roughing the passer? And why the fuck aren't KC challenging it?

[Gray Fox]

You can't challenge a roughing the passer call.

Refs on the take.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How the fuck is that roughing the passer? And why the fuck aren't KC challenging it?

They thought he hit his helmet but he didn't.

[John]

You can't challenge a roughing the passer call.

Refs on the take.

Had no idea that was the case. Stupid rule.

I reckon this last five minutes of the fourth quarter have run longer than the whole first quarter.

[Gray Fox]

You can't throw a challenge flag on a penalty, which is usually why the have a mothers meeting before awarding some.

You can challenge decisions, such as caught ball or spot of the ball. Sometimes overturning a call will wipe out a penalty though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Patriots getting all the calls in a tight playoff game.

I've never seen this before.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Romo called that.

Completely untouched.

[Gray Fox]

It's all gone quiet.

Time for Mahomes to show he deserves $200m

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As if the refs are going to flag the Patriots on a fumble.

[Gray Fox]

If the Pats don't win Belichick is going to eat this Jackson fella for dinner.

[thommo]

They've scored too early here. Brady to Gronk with 15 seconds left will win it for the Pats.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think the Chiefs might have scored that a bit too quickly.

Lot of time on the clock for the Patriots.

[Gray Fox]

I feel like they just let them score that one.

Here comes the Brady machine again.

[John]

They did exactly the same thing in the regular season meeting. Mahomes threw a one play touchdown then Brady just marched it down the park to win it with about twenty seconds left.