The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Redzone is on Sky Sports 5 tonight.

Watching everything unfold in HD :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not much to the game but if someone does this to Rofflesburger:

http://i.imgur.com/jB1lllC.gif

Especially Za'Darius Smith or Brandon Williams (although it's highly unlikely for Williams to do it) manage it, the season wont have been a complete failure.

Bury the fucker :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nice of Johnny Football to get on the field after a turnover and throw it right back to the Chiefs.

Teams are going to have to stop looking towards Marcus Peters, he's a pick magnet.

Shitting on the Steelers :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy Smith :drool:

The Steelers have been WRECKED.

101 yard pick 6.

Edit: Defensive offside? Refs want the Steelers in the playoffs.

The Panthers losing to THIS Falcons side is proper fucking lol, there's no chance they'll do anything in the playoffs.

[Dan]

Well, looks like I missed an eventful set of early games :moop:

New England & Pittsburgh losing I can see, but how the fuck did Carolina lose to the Falcons?! I know it's another divisional game, but they're awful, and there isn't the fire there like there is in the Steelers/Ravens game to spark a huge performance.

[Browning]

Atlanta getting the ball with about 1:40 remaining and punting it away with about 1;30 to go without Carolina using a time out should have seen them lose by default.

[Dan]

I'm so glad we're playing the Jags :D

Brees supposedly has plantar fascia issues, Marques Colston is out and Spiller is so shit he's lost his job to three guys picked off the street midway through the season, and yet we're 14-0 up & on the 1yd line.

I'd be trying to get as much as possible for Payton, Brees, Spiller & Browner as possible this offseason. Maybe Colston too. We'd be sacking off next season, especially if we didn't get a decent QB in free agency (I doubt Kirk Cousins or Ryan Fitzpatrick will get there, sadly) or the draft, but a rejig of the coaching staff, a few high round picks stacked up & a shitload of cap money free to throw around would put us in a good position to rebuild and challenge again in a season or two.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm surprised you're doing so well.

I wouldn't count the Jags out of this.

I can see the leaky Saints letting Bortles and the two Allens in.

[Gray Fox]

Hopefully that loss derails a lot of the Newton hype.

The Skins topping our division says a lot about it too. Please fire Chip and get someone in who will use Murray properly.

[The Bruce]

Chip Kelly has to be one of the worst appointments in the NFL in a long time. Utterly ruined that Eagles team.

Glad to see the Panthers lose, they're not as good as they're made out to be.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Imagine how bad it would have been had they given him full control over player transactions before this season.

[The Bruce]

Aren't the Saints in serious shit with the cap already anyway, Dan?

[Dan]

Yeah, Murray looked pretty good against Washington (except for the fumble, of course). Looked like they'd decided to try & work to his strengths a bit more instead of trying to make him something he's not. There's definitely potential in that offence - I quite like the look of Michael Huff as well - but they just don't quite get it right.

I won't count the Jags out either - we're still playing Brandon Browner, after all - but it's definitely getting harder & harder for them as we keep rolling offensively.

[Gray Fox]

I just look at the players we've moved on for him. Maclin, Jackson, McCoy are the main ones that stick out, but what the hell have we done since?

Brought in an injury prone Alonso who surprise, got injured. Insisted on playing Murray wrongly all season long and trusting Sam Brittle Bones as a starting QB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Only the Dolphins (how?) are in a worse shape for next year.

[Dan]

Aren't the Saints in serious shit with the cap already anyway, Dan?

Yeah, according to this article they've had problems for a while now (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13957641/dead-money-how-new-orleans-saints-salary-cap-woes-affect-drew-brees-future). Apparently we have 131 players on our books at the minute, and almost half of them aren't actually Saints players, and because of that we have $32.5m in dead cap money, when the average is about $14m.

Brees, much like Calvin Johnson, really has to restructure his deal or move on. I think Brees is supposed to take something like $30m of cap room next season, which is utterly retarded.

EDIT: Here's a fun game to play. Fix the Saints' salary cap problems. (http://overthecap.com/calculator/new-orleans-saints/)

[Browning]

David Johnson is seriously fucking good. How did it take him so long to get the job?

[Gray Fox]

It's probably a good idea for Brees to move on. He has his ring. He should go somewhere else who has fuck all at QB or gee himself up for one last superbowl push.

Off the top of my head, the 49ers, the Browns and the Eagles(I'd love to see him come to us) don't have any kind of regular QB signed up going into next year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Saints already have $14.8 million in dead money on the books for next season, thanks in large part to a $12.1 million charge for the remainder of Galette's deal

:cab:

Was Galette being paid in straight gold?

He's not even that good and probably wont have a job next season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and there's a fun fact.

The Packers leading rusher in this game? Tim Masthay their punter.

Edit: Nope, he has their longest rush of the game thus far.

Lacy has a whopping 17 yards on 6 carries.

[Dan]

If we could wrangle some kind of deal where the Redskins or Jets where they pay us for Brees then let their QB go so we can sign them up I'd be delighted.

Cousins or Fitz for half the price of Brees plus a first round pick would be all kinds of awesome. Hell, I'd take the same deal for Bradford, provided he got paid a bit less.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No one is giving up a first rounder for a 37 year old QB who will be hitting the cap for $30m.

You'll be lucky to get a 7th rounder.

[Dan]

No one is giving up a first rounder for a 37 year old QB who will be hitting the cap for $30m.

You'll be lucky to get a 7th rounder.

That's what I'd have thought but I keep hearing people talking about teams throwing out high picks for him. I guess nobody gives a fuck about age or money when it comes to having a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.

[Giggles]

Rodgers is having such a shit season.

[Baz]

My NFLinterest only extends as far as thinking Reggie Bush is top.

Just had a look at his wiki and noticed he was released early from his megamoney deal with the Detroit Lions. Howcome?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Because he hasn't been top for at least 5 years or so.

[Browning]

Because he's shit.

[Baz]

:lol:

[Dan]

Here comes the collapse...

EDIT: Hang on, Seattle are losing to the Rams? How do St Louis manage to be so shit & yet win so many divisional games against much better opposition?

Packers give the ball up on the first play of the second half. Cardinals looking good for this one, I'd say.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Saints giving up a 90 yard TD :D

[Dan]

Brandon Browner giving up the longest play in the league this season :cool:

Why are we still playing this man?!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cory Redding stiff arming Eddie Lacy :drool:

What a thing of beauty that was.

[Dan]

Well, things are not going well in Green Bay...

[Browning]

Cory Redding stiff arming Eddie Lacy :drool:

What a thing of beauty that was.

I've not stopped laughing at that yet. :D

[Gray Fox]

I don't know what's happening with the Packers but it's killing me fantasy wise.

Are they bad or are the Cardinals just that good?

[Dan]

They're decent, but not up to the standards they had been the last few years, particularly on offence. The O-Line & receivers have been poor this season, which has made it hard for Rodgers to do anything other than run around until Richard Rodgers is free & chuck it at him.

Arizona, however, are a team full of beasts.

[Browning]

The Cardinals are that good.

[Dan]

Right on cue Arizona get a sack wiped off for a penalty, followed a few plays later by a sack, then a sack fumble TD. This is getting embarrassing for the Green Bay offensive line.

The Cardinals are dominating them possibly even more than the Broncos did.

[Gray Fox]

Would now be a bad time to say my fantasy opponent has the Cardinals defence?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Most offensive lines see Calais Campbell and shit themselves stupid I'd imagine.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/files/2014/10/campbell-495x345.jpg

http://www.azcardinals.com/assets/images/imported/ARI/photos/article/MainDecember2012/CampbellNotesPicMAIN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/t3gXO1y.jpg?1

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/brownsvilleherald.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/b6/db645a5e-4aa0-11e3-8fd2-001a4bcf6878/528083c0b1cc6.image.jpg

You don't get many defensive ends who are bigger than most linemen.

6 foot 8, 310 pounds who can run a 40 yard dash in 4.85 seconds (at the combine he was 380 pounds so that is even more impressive) and absolutely swallow you whole.

[Dan]

What the fuck is going on with this turnover in the Rams/Seahawks game?

Fumbled by the Rams, Earl Thomas dived on it but didn't get it secured, everyone piled on & it was ruled a recovery by the Rams. Then they changed it to a Seattle recovery. Then they changed it back to the Rams.

Not exactly the best officiating there.

EDIT: Now Gurley's pulled off a disgusting hurdle & fumbled as he landed, and it's recovered by the Rams again :D

Tim Barnes, the center, recovered both fumbles, and then Gurley put it in the endzone.

[Dan]

Guess who just gave up another TD to a Jags receiver?

Browner :hail:

[Gray Fox]

Rams do love turning up for the Hawks games though don't they?

I think I may be starting to fall for the Gurley hype.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rams do love turning up for the Hawks games though don't they?

I think I may be starting to fall for the Gurley hype.
Not so much in Seattle though.

Seattle are on a 10 match unbeaten streak against the Rams in Seattle.

[Gray Fox]

Looks like that is about to come to an end after that snap.

[elth]

David Johnson is seriously fucking good. How did it take him so long to get the job?

Because player evaluation in the NFL is hard, because dressing room management is hard, because people as arrogant as NFL coaches admitted they screwed up for 12 weeks by having that kind of talent on the bench is rare.

I still think Kelly's a great coach - his systems work, there's no doubt about that - he just shouldn't be allowed anywhere near player management. Too confident in his own ability when it comes to player projection.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rams snapped a 62 game streak of the Seahawks leading at some point in the game.

Woof.

[Giggles]

Because player evaluation in the NFL is hard, because dressing room management is hard, because people as arrogant as NFL coaches admitted they screwed up for 12 weeks by having that kind of talent on the bench is rare.

I still think Kelly's a great coach - his systems work, there's no doubt about that - he just shouldn't be allowed anywhere near player management. Too confident in his own ability when it comes to player projection.

His systems work. In college.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/XDukXoFL7XH8NqBO7xRkwTdi8H8=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5856209/redding.0.gif

It really is a thing of beauty.

[Giggles]

Fatman interceptions/recoveries when they get to run are always great.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's the way he just throws Eddie Lacy away too.

[The Bruce]

That ejection in the Giants game is the most hilariously shite thing I've seen in a long time. A week too late officials you dickheads. That's as bad as I've seen the Giants play for what it's worth. We'll likely beat the Eagles next week so I don't get to see HoF'er Eli in the flesh :(

I'm on the Cardinals bandwagon after watching the Bruce Arians A Football Life. Anyone but the Panthers would be great.

[Gray Fox]

Just casually throwing Lacy out the way. I love it.

Next weeks game becomes a win/win. If the Eagles lose, I get to see them play. If the Eagles win, I get to see Beckham.

If he didn't play for the Giants I'd love a Beckham shirt, but it'd kind of spit in the face of any Eagles support I may have.

[Giggles]

Still the best shirt in the NFL, go for it.

[Gray Fox]

The work fantasy group were going to all buy the shirt of our favourite fantasy football players from the season. I'd be up for that, but not sure I could go for a Giants shirt.

[Browning]

Seems like a lot of us going to games next year...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000611187/article/saints-d-sets-record-for-td-passes-allowed-in-a-season


Through 15 games, the Saints have given up an NFL-record 43 touchdown passes. The previous record was 40 TD passes allowed by the 1963 Broncos.

New Orleans is also on pace to blow away the record for highest passer rating allowed in the Super Bowl Era at 117.1. The 2008 Detroit Lions currently own the dubious achievement, when opposing quarterbacks had a 110.9 passer rating against them. That Lions team went 0-16.

Even if you don't trust your own eyes enough to know Browner has been terrible this season, consider this: Pro Football Focus ranks Browner dead last among every corner who has taken a snap this season. He's not 210th by a small margin either. Browner's -40.6 rating is 12.9 points worse than the next closest player (Antwon Blake). In coverage, he grades out the worst by 12.0 points. Browner is allowing a 120.1 quarterback rating on passes thrown his direction, the fifth-worst mark in the NFL among corners playing 50 percent of a team's snaps.

It really is crazy how shit the Saints have been in coverage this year.

[Dan]

Brandon Browner gives me hope that one day I too could be a cornerback in the NFL. He truly is an inspiration to us all, and that's worth more than wins or money ever could be.

As for the Sunday night game, the Giants were fucking terrible other than Rashad Jennings & Robert Ayers, and that ejection was proper lol. Think i'm rooting for the Bengals tonight as it keeps the Steelers in the hunt for a playoff spot. 'Mon AJ McCarron :cool;

[Ian]

I think if Denver score five touchdowns off the defense I could still win my fantasy final.

[Dan]

Top work from the Chargers here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/35195755)

Not sure how the Bengals choked that game away after the way they started. Deciding to stop throwing downfield & instead start letting Jeremy Hill run directly into the nearest Denver lineman probably had something to do with it though. McCarron definitely looks the better prospect of the two QB's - Osweiler just stands and watches people rush him down & makes no attempt to avoid taking a sack, while McCarron looks to have more awareness of what's going on around him & how to move around, plus he seems to have a pretty good arm on him. That kick from Brandon McManus was hilarious as well :D

While we're on the subject of things that are hilarious, the Colts have signed Josh Freeman (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000612018/article/indianapolis-colts-sign-journeyman-qb-josh-freeman). Also looks like McCarron might be out next week having injured himself trying to recover the botched snap that lost them the game, so they might be stuck with their third string guy who's never played before, or Mike Kafka.

As surprising as an AFC playoff QB cast including Ryan Fitzpatrick & Alex Smith might have been at the start of the season, people's brains would've exploded if you said that they'd be joined by Brock Osweiler, Brandon Weeden or Josh Freeman & Mike Kafka :cab:

EDIT: Oh, and Gus Bradley is staying on at Jacksonville \o/

[Browning]

Fuck Freeman and Lindley, we want Tebow-mania.

[Dan]

I want Miami to pick him up & start running crazy wildcat formations with Tebow at RB/TE and Tannehill at WR :drool:

[Pleb]

The playoffs are pretty much set aren't they?

We all know that Patriots-Broncos and Panthers-Cardinals are set as respective Conference title matches surely?

[Ian]

An off-day for the Broncos defense will see them kicked out at the first opportunity unless Osweiler sharpens up. I like him but there's plenty for him to work on. I can't see Elway not sniffing about potential new QBs during the off-season.

[Dan]

The NFC is basically set, other than the Packers/Vikings game to sort out their division. The AFC still has a bit more to play for, but the Jets need to choke against Buffalo for the Steelers to still have a shot.

The Patriots will need to get a few more guys back if they're going to go all the way, and the Bengals will need a QB to have a good shot too, so there's certainly an outside shot that one of the wildcards springs an upset if they keep their momentum going. As for the NFC, I really hope the Cardinals steamroller everyone, but it really ought to be them v Carolina in the championship game. Green Bay have been way below their best all season, the Vikings don't have enough on offence, and Seattle have no running game anymore. Washington will be there too for a week, I guess, but I can't see them beating any of the other teams unless something really goes off

If the Pats are still shorthanded I could see Kansas City taking them out after wiping out the might Brandon Weeden & setting up an AFC Championship game against Cincinnati after they actually manage to beat Denver in the playoffs, at which point they could even go all the way if Dalton still isn't back. On the other side I have Seattle seeing off NFC North champs Minnesota & Green Bay beating Washington (sorry Kirk :() before they both get done in by the top two seeds.

I really want the Steelers/Cardinals dream to come true, but I'd settle for Chiefs/Cards.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Steelers aren't getting into the playoffs.

Despite our shitness we swept the fuckers and kept Antonio Brown to 103 yards on 12 catches in said games even with our shambolic secondary :drool:

[Giggles]

The Chip experiment/shambles is over.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000612168/article/philadelphia-eagles-let-go-of-chip-kelly

[Bartholomert]

Anyone listen to any NFL / American sports podcasts? I've been listening to Russillo and Kanell for awhile now, they're pretty entertaining but a little shallow in their insights.

[Gray Fox]

The Chip experiment/shambles is over.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000612168/article/philadelphia-eagles-let-go-of-chip-kelly

At last! Take Sam Bradford with you and get a good defence in.

[The Bruce]

New coach bounce to beat the Giants so I can see them in London next year :yn:

[Dan]

Steve Smith is coming back (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000612448/article/steve-smith-announces-ravens-return-for-2016) :cool:

Also, Bryant & Jeffery have been put on IR, and Manziel is being tested for a possible concussion.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:drool:

What a hero.

Steve Smith, Kamar Aiken and Breshad Perriman (assuming he ever fucking recovers from his knee injury) should be fucking golden.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and how is this for a stat.

Five of the six receivers listed on the active roster to start the season have been placed on IR.

[Dan]

I've just watched the Houston/Tennessee game. My God the Titans are bad. Mariota, Walker & Green-Beckham are pretty much the only decent players on the team. Maybe Harry Douglas as well if we're being nice.

They have three bad RB's, although Antonio Andrews is particularly terrible from what I've seen of him, and Zach Mettenberger might well be the worst QB I've ever seen - he barely gets a pass within five yards of the intended receiver, and half of the times he does it's skidding off the floor by the time it gets there, and he almost always makes the wrong decision on what to do with the ball. He's probably not even good enough to be a backup at the minute - crippled Mariota would almost certainly still be better.

Their cornerbacks looked awful too. They could get the top two picks in the draft and still be a shit team. They're just average or worse in practically every position. They can't run the ball, they can hardly throw the ball & they can't defend. They've hit a level of complete, team-wide mediocrity that can only be described as Browns-esque.

[Browning]

They're shit but Delanie Walker is a fucking hero.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I watched Ray Lewis' A Football Life today and I actually have something in common with him.

We're both outfuckingstanding at Monopoly and are constantly accused of cheating at it :cool:

Now I'm not sure about Ray but I most certainly was cheating at every possible chance I could get because it makes the game so much more realistic.

[Foe]

Anyone been keeping up with the college football bowl season?

I watched the majority of both games in the CFB playoffs - BAMA again looking strong and machine-like whilst Clemson took a while to get it going against Oklahoma. I think Bama will do it though, the guy Henry is just a superstar against amateurs.

Watched the Fiesta Bowl today (Ohio State beat Notre Dame) and now got the Rose Bowl on (Stanford v Iowa). It's interesting seeing the pro-prospects. Mccaffery the RB/WR for Stanford scorched Iowa on the opening play for about an 80 yard TD. The big DEnd for Ohio Bose got ejected early in the other game though, which was a bugger. What a way to end your college career.

[Foe]

Anyone been keeping up with the college football bowl season?

I watched the majority of both games in the CFB playoffs - BAMA again looking strong and machine-like whilst Clemson took a while to get it going against Oklahoma. I think Bama will do it though, the guy Henry is just a superstar against amateurs.

Watched the Fiesta Bowl today (Ohio State beat Notre Dame) and now got the Rose Bowl on (Stanford v Iowa). It's interesting seeing the pro-prospects. McCaffrey the RB/WR for Stanford scorched Iowa on the opening play for about an 80 yard TD. The big DEnd for Ohio Bose got ejected early in the other game though, which was a bugger. What a way to end your college career.

And McCaffrey absolutely nailed it with 368 all purpose yards on his own against Iowa who were the 5th ranked team in college football. He's a sophomore too, so has to come go back to Stanford next year.

[Gray Fox]

I watched the OSU @ Clemson game while I was home, just because everyone else had gone out for New Years and I have young kids so I don't do that now. While close in the first half, the 2nd half saw Clemson run away with it.

Deshaun Watson looked pretty handy, especially rushing. Not sure how well he'd come on in the big league though.

[Giggles]

End of an era.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-giants-coach-tom-coughlin-will-resign-on-monday-mike-garafolo-says-010116

[Dan]

Anyone been keeping up with the college football bowl season?

I watched the majority of both games in the CFB playoffs - BAMA again looking strong and machine-like whilst Clemson took a while to get it going against Oklahoma. I think Bama will do it though, the guy Henry is just a superstar against amateurs.

Watched the Fiesta Bowl today (Ohio State beat Notre Dame) and now got the Rose Bowl on (Stanford v Iowa). It's interesting seeing the pro-prospects. Mccaffery the RB/WR for Stanford scorched Iowa on the opening play for about an 80 yard TD. The big DEnd for Ohio Bose got ejected early in the other game though, which was a bugger. What a way to end your college career.

Not watched this season, but I've subscribed to a few YouTube channels that upload full games, so I'll probably fill the offseason by watching lots of games then.


End of an era.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-giants-coach-tom-coughlin-will-resign-on-monday-mike-garafolo-says-010116

Bruce will be hitting the bar then.

[The Bruce]

\o/

Hopefully he leaves with a final possession loss so they come to London. He won't to spite me though the old bastard.

[Dan]

Sounds like Mike Pettine will be available as well. The Browns are a fucking shambles.

[Bartholomert]

I got $40 on the Redskins at +4.

Let's goo.

[Pleb]

So what do some playoff bound teams need offseason? Patriots are probably run riot at this rate. Panthers might have a chance :baz:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Another week with no Kevin.

He's clearly walked or been pushed.

[Dan]

The Chargers, Rams & Raiders are all expected to apply for relocation, and at the minute none of them are likely to be approved :D

Josh Freeman starts for the Colts. What a day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've just checked Cadle's Twitter and I've discovered two things.

Firstly, he will be back for the playoffs.

Secondly, he has come up with, quite possibly, the worst book title known to man for his autobiography. Gentlemen, I present to you:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CT36RuzWcAA3H7E.jpg

:face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Even more tears from Jerry :drool:

[The Bruce]

This Dara bint needs to be taken out back and shot, what a useless fucker.

Jerry Dome will be rioting tonight :drool:

[Ian]

Cadle. :cool:

[The Bruce]

Giants doing the business :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

3 drives, 3 TD's.

Proper lol at the Cowboys defence.

[Dan]

Redskins on a charge, and the Jets are choking Pittsburgh back into contention :drool:

Fabulous TD catch on the sideline from Ben Watson, and it looks like Brady may have a bit of an ankle problem after getting sacked by Suh.

[Dan]

DeAngelo Williams has been carted off. Guess Big Ben's going to have to throw more now. Pity his receivers are so bad...

EDIT: Hang on, Austin Davis is playing for Cleveland again? Did Johnny hit the club again?

In other QB change news, the Redskins have pulled Kirk Cousins before the end of the first half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Concussion.

Anyway, beating the Bengals :drool:

[Dan]

Mahow o/

How far can the Bengals fall if they lose?

EDIT: Reversed. Bengals can't fall either, so it's pretty much irrelevant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think it's the third, which is where they started.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/dan-carpenter-slams-his-helmet-down-and-it-bounces-into-his-face-after-missed-pat-against-jets.gif?w=1000

:D

Absolute magic.

[Dan]

S-Jax in the end zone :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Even Colt McCoy is making the Cowboys defence look amateur.

4/8, 111 yards and 1 TD.

[Gray Fox]

I'm still not sure whether or not we should keep Bradford on. He can look good, like on that drive but can also look horrendous. Though there is the argument that Chip was playing him wrong, as he was with the entire offense.

[Bartholomert]

I got $40 on the Redskins at +4.

Let's goo.

Free money, what an outrageous spread that was.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Free money, what an outrageous spread that was.

Indeed.

My early bet has been fucked over by the Jags (they've looked so damn good in the past month and a half) and the Ravens who seem to have not bothered at all in the second half.

£5 on Bills +3/Broncos -10/Cardinals -6.5/Rams -3.5/Chiefs -7.5.

Minus for the late games :yn:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's a shame that the Steelers have made the playoffs but the Bills were always going to fuck over the Jets.

[Dan]

Fantastic bottle job from the Jets. Shame it had to be Fitzpatrick that chucked it away though.

Steelers get the Bengals or the Broncos in the playoffs. Should be a pretty interesting game either way. Two teams potentially starting backup QB's trying to keep up with Big Ben & company. Pretty likely to be a shootout, like most Pittsburgh games.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fantastic bottle job from the Jets. Shame it had to be Fitzpatrick that chucked it away though.

Steelers get the Bengals in the playoffs, right? Should be a pretty interesting game.

If the Broncos win, yes.

If the Broncos lose then they will play the Steelers.

Whoever the Bengals get they will lose though.

[Dan]

That defending was appalling from the Chargers :D

[Gray Fox]

Oh well. There goes my chance of seeing the Eagles next year.

Gurley v Beckham on English soil isn't bad though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and speaking of the Chargers:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000613464/article/eric-weddle-sprints-in-practice-after-being-put-on-ir

So they fine Weddle for wanting to watch his daughter perform at halftime, refuse to fly him to Denver and then put him on IR despite him being able to practice.

Well played scumbags.

[Browning]

I haven't really followed it today, but having just seen a random play, why are the Bengals throwing a lateral when going to ground would ice the game? Granted it was relatively risk free as the guy was about 2 yards away, but still seems unnecessary unless I've missed something.

[Dan]

Because Rey Maualuga (think it was him) is an idiot. Would've been hilarious if he'd chucked it straight to a Raven & they'd taken it all the way to the end zone.

Might have to give the international series games a look next season. Could end up being three good games.

[Browning]

I've got my tickets to all 3. Wasn't sure who I wanted in the mystery game, but the Giants is good just to see Beckham.

[Dan]

Whereabouts are you sitting? Went to Wembley a couple of years ago & had a decent view, but I can't remember how far back I was.

[Browning]

I've renewed the same seats from Wembley, which are behind one of the end zones, near the back of the lower section and pretty much slap bang in the middle (by which I mean right in the middle of the goal posts). I imagine it's similar for Twickenham but I didn't book them myself. Was a great view, obviously better when the action was down my end but not bad at the other end.

[Dan]

DeJuan Harris has looked pretty lively the last two weeks.

Pretty sure we had cheap tickets near the middle of the field, but I'm not sure there are many of those left anymore.

[Foe]

The Chiefs raiders game is a bit mental.

Interception / turnover heavy.

[Browning]

Wow, the Cards are getting absolutely fisted.

[wullie]

Both Baldwin and Wilson are setting season records, which is remarkable considering they both have only really been playing for the last 7 weeks.

[Ian]

Looks like I'll be going to whoever the Skins play at Wembley because my brother-in-law is a big fan.

More importantly the plan is do the Bermondsey Beer Mile. :drool:

This Denver game sounds rancid.

[Browning]

Looks like I'll be going to whoever the Skins play at Wembley because my brother-in-law is a big fan.

More importantly the plan is do the Bermondsey Beer Mile. :drool:

This Denver game sounds rancid.

The Bengals.

[Dan]

Denver has given up five turnovers & scored 7pts, and they're still winning :cab:

San Diego are a bad team.

EDIT: Time for Peyton :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Browns have officially fired Pettine and Farmer.

Colts have let Pagano go (some sources are saying now, some say Monday) too because of his relationship with Grigson:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25434290/report-colts-gm-insisted-chuck-pagano-play-trent-richardson

Apparently he was going to be fired if he lost the wildcard game or divisional game last year.

41 wins 23 losses (three 11-5 seasons) in regular season and 3-3 in the post season.

Irsay is a shambles and the players want Pagano to stay.

8 wins this season but he only had Luck for 7 games (and he was dealing with injuries for most of those) and had to play FIVE different QB's this season.

If no one takes him as a head coach (they'd be stupid not to), I hope Ozzie brings him back to the Ravens.

[Browning]

Peyton is lucky I won my fantasy league, otherwise I'd be fuming he picks now to stop being royally shit.

[Dan]

Yeah, Pagano will have been very harshly treated if he's fired. This season was one to write off as a bizarre anomaly, rather than deciding to sack a good coach because they didn't make the playoffs with a crippled QB.

Broncos look pretty handy with Manning back in.

[Gray Fox]

Surely you'd fire the GM there? Give the coach another season with healthier players and more importantly, Luck. Given all their injuries an 8-8 season isn't all too bad. Looking at the Ravens should tell you that. They've had it a little worse than the Colts and struggled to a 5-11. A little perspective needed I think.

[Giggles]

Madness sacking really but Irsay believed they had their window and now it looks to be shut. Plus he's a fruitcake (Irsay).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surely you'd fire the GM there? Give the coach another season with healthier players and more importantly, Luck. Given all their injuries an 8-8 season isn't all too bad. Looking at the Ravens should tell you that. They've had it a little worse than the Colts and struggled to a 5-11. A little perspective needed I think.

It's because we have a screwed on owner and GM.

They know that this season was an anomaly and we'll be back stronger.

Some teams are run well and some aren't, clearly the Colts aren't if they were willing to fire Pagano last year if he didn't win 2 play off games (after three back to back 11-5 seasons).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Madness sacking really but Irsay believed they had their window and now it looks to be shut. Plus he's a fruitcake (Irsay).

I'm surprised that Irsay hasn't done a Jerry Jones yet and named himself GM.

[Gray Fox]

It's because we have a screwed on owner and GM.

They know that this season was an anomaly and we'll be back stronger.

Some teams are run well and some aren't, clearly the Colts aren't if they were willing to fire Pagano last year if he didn't win 2 play off games (after three back to back 11-5 seasons).

In which case I'll buy him a plane ticket to Philadelphia.
I mean they were still well in with a chance of making the play-offs up to last week, with an outside chance this week. Still like you say, not very well run.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In which case I'll buy him a plane ticket to Philadelphia.
I mean they were still well in with a chance of making the play-offs up to last week, with an outside chance this week. Still like you say, not very well run.
At the end of the day there was friction between Pagano and Grigson, Irsay had to choose and he either thinks Grigson is the reason for their success, thinks he is more valuable or he just likes him more.

Grigson is the one who went crying to the NFL in regards to deflategate so that's probably why Irsay likes him.

[Dan]

Cam Newton's really rather a dick. The smug look on his face when he scores or runs for a first down, the way he celebrates a TD for about a thousand years, all the running up and down the sideline waving & cheerleading, and now finding out that he's named his kid Chosen.

He's a bloody good QB though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chosen Newton? :cab:

That's up there with Kanye's kids.

[Gray Fox]

I saw that this morning. Thought it was a joke. Either way Newton stands to win me a £10 bet so he can carry on being a dick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'What the fuck was that?'

Andy Reid :D

[Dan]

That was the strangest fake(?) field goal I've ever seen.

[Browning]

Surely even Denver won't fuck this up now.

Unless Woodhead get 2 TDs.

[Browning]

I can't really work out what's wrong with the field goal. I mean, it was shit ,but he did get new downs, didn't he?

[Ian]

Top seed. :cool:

Feel for Osweiler a bit. They've obviously been waiting for an excuse to chuck Manning back in.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

First time I've seen this Sunday night intro, it's fucking atrocious.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Top 20 picks for the draft:

1. Tennessee Titans: 3-13 (.492 strength of schedule)
2. Cleveland Browns: 3-13 (.531)
3. San Diego Chargers: 4-12 (.528)
4. Dallas Cowboys: 4-12 (.533)
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: 5-11 (.473)
6. Baltimore Ravens: 5-11 (.508)
7. San Francisco 49ers: 5-11 (.539)
8. Miami Dolphins: 6-10 (.469)
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 6-10 (.484)
10. New York Giants: 6-10 (.498)
11. Chicago Bears: 6-10 (.548)
12. New Orleans Saints: 7-9 (.504)
13. Philadelphia Eagles: 7-9 (.508)
14. Oakland Raiders: 7-9 (.512)
15. St. Louis Rams: 7-9 (.528)
16. Detroit Lions: 7-9 (.536)
17. Atlanta Falcons: 8-8 (.478)
18. Indianapolis Colts: 8-8 (.500)
19. Buffalo Bills: 8-8 (.508)
20. New York Jets: 10-6 (.441)

Ozzie will absolutely fucking smash the shit out of it with all the possible trading options.

[Gray Fox]

Given that you'd expect the Titans to draft a RB and the Browns after Johnny Football fucked up yet again (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000615705/article/haslam-confirms-manziel-was-a-noshow-on-sunday?campaign=fb-nf-sf18004179-sf18004179), will take a QB, there could still be something tasty available for your lot. Considering you have a good team anyway when they are all fit, next year should be a good one.

Our winning today has changed us from maybe having pick 10 to pick 13. That combined with the Twickenham game has me annoyed that we turned up today. However, we can't really do that worse than last year. See if we can find a quality WR in there. If not, strengthen that pass defence the fuck up!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Speaking of poorly run teams, come on down the 49ers.

Shuffled Jim Harbaugh out as he would argue with the owners/GM so they bring in a yes man who, surprise surprise, does fuck all and then show him the door.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do not be deceived. You will reap what you sow.

Harbaugh is still sour :harold:

[Foe]

Given that you'd expect the Titans to draft a RB and the Browns after Johnny Football fucked up yet again (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000615705/article/haslam-confirms-manziel-was-a-noshow-on-sunday?campaign=fb-nf-sf18004179-sf18004179), will take a QB, there could still be something tasty available for your lot. Considering you have a good team anyway when they are all fit, next year should be a good one.

Our winning today has changed us from maybe having pick 10 to pick 13. That combined with the Twickenham game has me annoyed that we turned up today. However, we can't really do that worse than last year. See if we can find a quality WR in there. If not, strengthen that pass defence the fuck up!

Absolutely no way the Titans use the number 1 pick on a running back unless they see Derrick Henry as the messiah. Then again, he's from the BAMA 'system' so there's the Trent Richardson risk there. The way the RB situation is they could surely trade down a bit and grab him later (or Zeke Elliott). If it goes tits up then Fournette, McCaffrey etc. are likely to fancy popping out next year.

The more interesting thing is the fact that the Browns surely will want to use the opportunity to grab a top rated QB. Jared Goff, Paxton Miller and particularly Conor Cook (MSU) must be feeling a little exposed to that particular ship even if none are really at this point in time really being billed as #2 pick warranted. It became pretty clear this season that there really isn't a superstar QB coming out like a Luck / Newton / / Bradford of the past. I'm not convinced it's quite 2013 bad, but it's like last year in that it'll go down to club preference. I bet lynch is fucked off the Titans took Marriota last year otherwise he'd feel pretty good about his chances of ending up sticking about in Tennessee. That being said, the Browns need a receiver too, given Gordon will probably decide to go on a bender with Manziel. I love all the draft prep stuff too, so the next few months are going to be pretty decent. May - September is just a slog though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Titans will go for a tackle at the top spot.

Mariota missed 4 games due to injuries this year and could have missed more, you don't want that for your franchise QB. They will get him some protection.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So Jerrell Freeman has 2 TD's in his career.

His first was the very first TD the Colts scored under Chuck Pagano in the regular season. His second? The very last TD the Colts scored under Chuck Pagano.

[Foe]

Coughlan has resigned too.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000617073/article/giants-will-not-retain-tom-coughlin-as-head-coach

[The Bruce]

\o/

A fair way of him leaving given what he's done for the Giants over his 12 years. Interested to see who we get in now though I hope McAdoo and Spags get kept on as coordinators.

[Dan]

Pagano's survived. Common sense prevails in Indy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pagano's survived. Common sense prevails in Indy.

Well only a bit.

Irsay has also given Grigson a 4 year contract.


1. Grigson reportedly insisted that Pagano play -- and even start -- running back Trent Richardson. The very same Trent Richardson who Grigson gave up a first-round pick to acquire from Cleveland. Also the very same Trent Richardson who averaged 2.9 yards per carry in his first season in Indy, and 3.3 the next, before the team mercifully let him go.

"According to sources, Grigson was concerned with creating the narrative that it was a good trade, something it clearly was not," Kravitz wrote.

That's a hell of a narrative.

2. Grigson reportedly insisted that Pagano use 31-year-old Josh Cribbs at returner last season, even though Pagano was against it. Cribbs fumbled in the AFC Championship Game blowout loss to the Patriots, which is now mostly remembered for Deflategate. Worth mentioning: It was who Grigson informed the league that he had concerns the Pats were up to no good.

3. Grigson reportedly overruled Pagano on at least one occasion when the coach wanted to punish a player. "The culture here now is the worst I've ever seen it," a source told Kravitz, alluding to the frequency with which Colts players have been arrested in recent years.

4. As La Canfora reported in September, offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton was forced on Pagano. Hamilton was fired midseason and replaced by Rob Chudzinski. "Pep was never answerable to Chuck," a source told Kravitz. "Pep answered to Ryan, and everybody in the building knew it."

If all that is true, christ knows how long both of them will still be in Indy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baltimore Ravens wide receiver Steve Smith Sr. gave a cryptic response when asked if he's spoken to linebacker Terrell Suggs about recovering from an Achilles injury.

"Suggs is a little vulnerable right now," Smith said Monday as players cleaned out their lockers. "So, I'm not going to talk to Suggs about it. He's not a ray of sunshine like he usually is."

He also didn't go to the locker room after the final team meeting of the season (a few other injured players didn't too). I think we could be hearing of Suggs retiring soon enough.

[The Bruce]

Coughlin's presser today was brilliant. Has all the hallmarks of his personality in it :D

The rumours of Sean Payton wouldn't be the end of the world either.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"Like many players at this stage of their career, I am currently evaluating options for my future," Johnson said in a statement. "I would expect to have a decision regarding this matter in the not-too-distant future."

Sounds like Megatron might be about to retire :(

[Browning]

Good. Maybe Stafford can throw to his open receivers now.

[Dan]

Sean Payton is staying in NOLA.

Yay?

[Gray Fox]

Sean Payton is staying in NOLA.

Yay?

Depends if you like low draft picks or not.

[The Bruce]

Lovie Smith has been fired by the Buccaneers which is a bit of a surprise. They weren't great but I thought they showed enough during the season to give him a third year.

The NFL is a all a bit Barclays Premiership Sponsored by Barclays with all of the coaching changes this year.

[elth]

His systems work. In college.

He wouldn't have made the playoffs in consecutive seasons with absolute gimps at QB if his systems didn't work in the NFL.

[elth]

Pagano's survived. Common sense prevails in Indy.

Says it all that the Pats fans I know hope that Grigson and Pagano stay together in Indy for as long as possible.

Loser owner, clueless GM, outmatched coach. The only thing Pagano has going for him is that his players like him.

[Dan]

Lovie Smith has been fired by the Buccaneers which is a bit of a surprise. They weren't great but I thought they showed enough during the season to give him a third year.

The NFL is a all a bit Barclays Premiership Sponsored by Barclays with all of the coaching changes this year.

Didn't see that one coming. They finished on a bad run, but they looked like a side on the up, so it seems strange to get rid of him when there's a lot of reason to think they could've been pushing for a playoff spot in the next season or two.

Peyton is officially starting in the playoffs as well :cool:

[Foe]

Didn't see that one coming. They finished on a bad run, but they looked like a side on the up, so it seems strange to get rid of him when there's a lot of reason to think they could've been pushing for a playoff spot in the next season or two.

Peyton is officially starting in the playoffs as well :cool:

Really odd given that on nfl.com the "experts" gave the bucs the best review in the draft, so he was clearly moving them in the right direction. Going from 2 wins to 6 is certainly better than Gus Bradley did in Jacksonville and yet Gus still has a gig and Lovie's shown the door.

[Browning]

Peyton is officially starting in the playoffs as well :cool:

Well that's an absolute piss take. The guy is finished.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/halloffame/story/0ap3000000618896/article/brett-favre-terrell-owens-highlight-2016-hall-of-fame-finalists

I can't see TO getting in first time, obviously Favre will.

Surely it's Warner's time and I'd love to see Atwater in purely based on this hit destroying the Nigerian Nightmare:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3664917/steve-atwater-o.gif

[Pleb]

I have no faith in Houston thumping Kansas City tomorrow.

Even if we did win we're facing the Patriots and probably going to get dicked on :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Because they wont.

The Chiefs will run riot.

[Ian]

Favre is a gimme, I'd like to see Warner go straight in too. I'm a big fan of John Lynch but he's not making it as a first-ballot but TD might.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think this is Warner's third year of eligibility.

I would have thought he'd go straight in.

I also think this is Lynch's fourth time and TD's 11th.

How TD has been overlooked so many times I don't know.

Edit: Warner's second.

[Giggles]

Davis will always have the short career argument against him. Though personally I'd have him there in a shot.

[Ian]

Didn't realise Lynch had been eligible that long but I suppose that makes sense if I think about it.

And I don't really get how Davis hasn't had it yet either. Giggles will be right about the short career being held against him by some because it'll have hurt his career stats but he really ought to be in there.

[Giggles]

Didn't realise Lynch had been eligible that long but I suppose that makes sense if I think about it.

And I don't really get how Davis hasn't had it yet either. Giggles will be right about the short career being held against him by some because it'll have hurt his career stats but he really ought to be in there.

The short career is too easy to see now but I think people must forget just how good he was. Best running back I've ever seen play, even ahead of Sanders.

[Gray Fox]

Looks like most, if not all of my fantasy league will be off to the Giants @ Rams game over here which should give it a little something extra. Current plan is to have one guy block buy all the tickets, but there may be a single person limit on how many you can take.

Also, perhaps strangely, at least 2 of these people are already writing out their draft for next years fantasy league.

[Browning]

That's fucking mental behavior. They should be forced to stick to whatever plan they formulate now, and draft Megatron in the 1st round even if he retires.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2015 All-Pro team is here:

QB: Cam Newton
RB: Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin
FB: Mike Tolbert (I think it should have been Juszczyk as he's been brilliant, 321 receiving yards and 4 TD's is damn good)
TE: Rob Gronkowski
WR: Antonio Brown, Julio Jones
T: Joe Thomas, Andrew Whitworth
G: David DeCastro, Marshal Yanda
C: Ryan Kalil
K: Stephen Gostkowski
KR: Tyler Lockett

DE: Khalil Mack, JJ Watt
DT: Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald (I think Brandon Williams should have been in ahead of Geno but it was damn close)
LB: Navarro Bowman, Thomas Davis, Luke Kuechly, Von Miller, Khalil Mack (only player to make the team in two different positions)
CB: Josh Norman, Patrick Peterson
S: Eric Berry (fuck Hodgkin's Lymphoma :cool:), Tyrann Mathieu
P: Johnny Hekker

Hekker's finest moment of the season was clearly this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbsX0SAIIoY

[Gray Fox]

That's fucking mental behavior. They should be forced to stick to whatever plan they formulate now, and draft Megatron in the 1st round even if he retires.

Yeah they think because they've watched some College football that they are already going to smash it next year. This is the guys who finished 2nd and 3rd this time around.

I keep telling them all I'm picking Gary Barnidge as my first round pick to keep them guessing. They can do as they wish really, but the commissioner of the league is one of these two and he's decided that the draft will happen on the last weekend before the season starts. So we can all meet up for it and so everyone gets a full roster of fit players. I think it should be done before pre-season and it should be tough shit if any one picks up a Jordy Nelson as 2015 has a bucket load of players go down anyway.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eagles are after Coughlin :eyemouth:

[Giggles]

What a hire he'd be.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Miami is the first team to make a head coaching hiring this season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000619758/article/dolphins-hire-adam-gase-as-coach-sign-5year-deal

With Adam Gase who should help Tannehill a lot.

[Gray Fox]

He was the first interviewed by us which suggests he isn't our first choice. Coughlin though :eyemouth:

[Pleb]

The interceptions :harold:

[Gray Fox]

That's not how you want to start your play-offs either.

[Pleb]

Fumble :D

God we look shite.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Still no Kev :(

The Chiefs :cool:

Bar the pick ofc.

[Foe]

This game is mental.

Hoyer just dropped a few 0s with that air fumble

[Pleb]

Amazing :D

Now watch us shit our way to three points.

JJ Watt on offense :serious:

[Pleb]

That was fucking mental.

Can I sack our coach please?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hoyer :harold:

Dontari mother fucking Poe is going to be in Hoyer's nightmares tonight.

Oh and I'd have loved for Watt to run it in behind Wilfork.

[Gray Fox]

JJ would be one hell of a catching threat. What is he about 6 foot 6? Bringing him on to rush I'm not so sure about. Worth mixing it up though I suppose.

Texans will do nothing with Hoyer under center.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Amazing :D

Now watch us shit our way to three points.

JJ Watt on offense :serious:
It's not that mental, he has 3 receptions for 4 yards and 3 TD's.

And here they are:

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/V0FD2ytTtG5zVWH5oofu2vN7FSc=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2462926/watttd.0.gif

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/o6Ykzj-TBCQO5kxsjhY_n2fmX2s=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/696044/watt.0.gif

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/I4IZR8sdPgDh5msEDZOIPD2pZYs=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2504600/WATTTT.0.gif

The rushing attempt was his first in the NFL though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hoyer again :D

Oh and Marcus Peters is DROY.

[Gray Fox]

Texans to check down the back of the sofa for a QB at half time.

[Pleb]

Hoyer you twat.

Throw a bullet pass or throw it away.

[Dan]

I decided to have a go at that Playoff Challenge thing on the NFL site & went with Santos, Maclin, Ware & the Chiefs defence. Pretty satisfied so far :D

I do like the Texans though, even if Hoyer is trying to throw the game. Watt running behind Wilfork is beautiful stuff.

[Dan]

Big Ben looks like Curtis Axel with that beard.

[Gray Fox]

They seriously need to pull Hoyer now.

[Bartholomert]

They seriously need to pull Hoyer now.

And what would that achieve at this stage?

[Gray Fox]

He currently can't throw a ball. They have nothing to lose by changing him out.

[Dan]

Game is over now. Hopefully that Maclin injury isn't a serious one though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a killer catch by Hopkins, shame he needed to push off to get some separation though.

[Foe]

This has been a disaster

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was to be expected.

The Texans aren't a good team at all and they got into the playoffs because they're in a poor division.

They've had some good results this year but a playoff game against a beastly Chiefs team (defence) who are riding a 10 game winning streak? Not a chance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And there goes the Chiefs Defence again.

There aren't many units better than them this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Averaging less than 12 points a game against them in the last 11 games now.

It's going to be great seeing the Chiefs shit all over New England or the Broncos.

[Browning]

I might adopt the Chiefs as my team at some point... I fucking loved them at Wembley (mainly because I had Alex Smith in my fantasy team and he bossed it) and their fans were awesome. I'd love to see them go all the way, but not quite ready to declare them "my team" because a big part of me would still like to see the Cards win it.

[Dan]

I'm adding Chiefs/Seahawks to my list of acceptable SB50 matches.

Think I may have mentioned back on the old TTH that I saw one LSU game about 3/4 years ago & thought Spencer Ware was a beast. Time has proved me to be correct. Get me a scouting job :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not sure how this is such a defensive game.

[Gray Fox]

I have no problem with the Hawks making it, but for Pete Carroll. He just looks like a guy you want to see punched in the face. I can't explain why, he just does.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

0 points in their last 60 minutes of playoff games for the Bengals :cab:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That wasn't long enough of a big man run.

[Gray Fox]

From first view that looks to me like it's coming back. The tackle after the fumble looked like it got the big guy down.

[Gray Fox]

So the Bengals are really getting bailed out by their defence so far. Though I'm sure I just saw they are 0-13 in post season play after falling behind.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So the Bengals are really getting bailed out by their defence so far. Though I'm sure I just saw they are 0-13 in post season play after falling behind.

Indeed, they've never won a playoff game in which they've gone behind, haven't won one at all since 1990 and have gone like 80 minutes of game time without scoring in playoff games now.

This is very much like Kansas City, Steelers are getting turnovers but just can't do shit but kick FG's.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They couldn't block a bit more?

If Antonio scores the first TD I get over £100.

Bastards.

Edit: Ugh, fuck you Ben and Bryant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That catch was fucking mental though.

[Gray Fox]

That was a fantastic effort. He'd been called out by Ben for not being great in the run in too.

That should see the Steelers through unless the Bengals offence suddenly clicks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

RIP in pieces Giovanni Bernard.

Oh and that's a fumble.

[Gray Fox]

I can see a few massive hits on the way now. Boiling over nicely.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Burfict :D

You had to know he'd be coming.

[Gray Fox]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Also does he look a little puffy lately? I know he's not exactly skinny but he looks heavier than I remember him.

[Gray Fox]

Just what this game needed.

[Gray Fox]

The Bengals have no one but themselves to blame for all of this. Their players are absolutely fucking stupid and several will be getting fined and 1 or 2 suspended. Antonio Brown is lucky he still has a head on his shoulders.

I wanted the Steelers out, but after that, fuck the Bengals.

Poor quality but for fucks sake. I'll be surprised if Brown knows what week it is.

https://gyazo.com/6036e2f417f8bc87f415cbd366d3adf3.png

[Giggles]

Just caught the highlights of that game, looked really good. Bengals should have had it.

Sam Shields is out for tonight. I couldn't see much chance they were beating Washington anyway but that's the final nail in it now.

[Dan]

Tried to watch it on GamePass, but it's on blackout. They were showing the full game replay on the NFL Network though, so i just watched it there instead :D Pretty crazy even for a Bengals/Steelers game. Ryan Shazier had a huge game, and it's not really much of a shock that the two biggest mentalists on the Bengals team ended up giving up game losing penalties because they couldn't stop being mentalists.

Kansas City definitely have a shot against the Pats, especially if they don't have everyone back, while the Steelers will be relying on Axelmania having a good enough shoulder to continue to run wild, especially if they're going to be without Antonio Brown. The two games tonight aren't quite as exciting, although I am looking forward to seeing Kirk Cousins carve the Packers apart (maybe).

[Giggles]

Cousins won't even need to. The Packers have one of the worst offenses in the NFL, won't score more than 10. The Packers defence is the best they've had in years too. I'll go 27-9.

[The Bruce]

Disappointing openers to the playoffs but absolutely expected. Houston are a garbage side and the Bengals are surely the biggest choke merchants in all of sport. The Bryant catch was a beaut though.

I fancy Washington (eugh) and Seattle tonight.

[Foe]

In a world where the nfl is worried about concussions why in the hell was shaziers crest of the helmet hit to Bernard's face a legal hit?

The bengals were idiots there but that's where it all stemmed from. I was fully expecting a personal foul on shazier. Instead they gave him the ball. :moop:

There really wasn't much difference between the hit on brown and Bernard that one is a 15 yard penalty (using the shoulder) and one is a legal hit (helmet).

[Browning]

Aaron Rodgers will surely storm it given everyone has written him off against the fucking redskins.

[Gray Fox]

As far as I know, the one on Bernard, he had caught the ball, turned and become a runner. At that point it was just seen as a tackle and fumble.

The one on Brown was on a defenseless receiver who was still airborne.

[Giggles]

Aaron Rodgers will surely storm it given everyone has written him off against the fucking redskins.

He'll be on his arse more often than not as the offensive line resembles a revolving door. Absolutely nothing to throw to when he is upright either, though he's been really poor himself too.

[Foe]

As far as I know, the one on Bernard, he had caught the ball, turned and become a runner. At that point it was just seen as a tackle and fumble.

The one on Brown was on a defenseless receiver who was still airborne.

Yeah, that's seemingly what people are saying. But there's no way Bernard was walking away from that with anything other than at least a mild concussion. He catches the ball facing the other way, he turns around and bang, head shot. He may have the ball and two feet down but he hasn't had any chance to see any defenders coming.

Deoin sanders was trying to claim Burfict's wasn't a penalty but I'm not entirely sure about that.

The calls the refs made at the end of the game basically decided the contest. The Jones penalty in particular looked all sorts of wank. Seemingly he had a go on social media about it and raised some pretty valid points. Hope the Steelers get destroyed in the next round.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Going to be one of the coldest games ever in the NFL.

[Ian]

Should be a few of these:
http://www.theonion.com/article/nfl-meteorologists-warn-steaming-black-guy-heads-o-2340

[Gray Fox]

Looks like we've interviewed Chiefs OC Doug Pederson. I quite like the sound of him.

[Giggles]

Favres backup :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Zimmer is a mong, you never challenge the spot of the ball unless it's make or break for the game because they're almost never overturned.

[The Bruce]

Yeah, that's seemingly what people are saying. But there's no way Bernard was walking away from that with anything other than at least a mild concussion. He catches the ball facing the other way, he turns around and bang, head shot. He may have the ball and two feet down but he hasn't had any chance to see any defenders coming.

Deoin sanders was trying to claim Burfict's wasn't a penalty but I'm not entirely sure about that.

The calls the refs made at the end of the game basically decided the contest. The Jones penalty in particular looked all sorts of wank. Seemingly he had a go on social media about it and raised some pretty valid points. Hope the Steelers get destroyed in the next round.

The Bengals lost that game all on their own, the referees didn't cost them it at all. Fuckwittery like that deserves to be punished.

Not that I care for the Steelers, Joey Porter and MIke Tomlin are both gobshites.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baldwin :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Someone call a doctor, Blair Walsh is choking :harold:

[Ian]

Walsh you mong.

[Dan]

Well, i hope Blair Walsh enjoys his unemployment.

[AE]

Jesus, that's so harsh on the vikings.

[Ian]

Wilson is such a wet blanket.

[Giggles]

Well that at least makes later a little easier to take.

The Vikings :lol:

[Gray Fox]

Laces OUT, Dan!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

At times it seems like the Packers just can't be arsed with blocking.

[Giggles]

At times it seems like the Packers just can't be arsed with blocking.

At times?

[Dan]

Hopefully that stop isn't a sign of things to come in this game...

[wullie]

I would say I can't believe that ending, but all throughout the game I was reading updates about how it's Walsh's game so it felt a little like tempting fate. Harsh if he gets all the blame though.

[Dan]

Yeah, here come the real Packers :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Even when Lacy gets off a decent run it looks so laboured.

He just looks far too slow and heavy, it's like when a defensive line-man scoops up a fumble.