The NFL Thread

[Dan]

That's an interesting pick from Denver. I thought they'd wait a bit longer & take Michael Gallup, but Sutton is one of the few in the draft that has legit WR1 potential.

[Dan]

Titans trade up, I wonder if this is Landry (or maybe Hubbard).

Yeah, there he goes. Evans & Landry is a nice bit of work from Mike Vrabel & co.

"HONOR? Honor Landry..." :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How can you fail to pronounce Harold? :cab:

[Pleb]

The Raiders really love trading to the Titans.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Titans trade up, I wonder if this is Landry (or maybe Hubbard).

Yeah, there he goes. Evans & Landry is a nice bit of work from Mike Vrabel & co.

"HONOR? Honor Landry..." :D

I genuinely thought he was talking about some other player until they popped the name up.

[Pleb]

That baby is hating life right now.

[Dan]

Gesicki is a beast. He was the guy I wanted us to take.

[Pleb]

He's probably going to be a fantasy stud this season #listentopleb

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That baby is hating life right now.

Yeah, he's in a Dolphins uniform poor bastard.

[Dan]

Lions trade with the Patriots. Nice to see Bill doing his old guys some favours.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Burleson :D

[Dan]

Look at Mr Style Nate Burleson being the only guy not in a suit :nono:

Also, shut the fuck up & read the card dude.

[Pleb]

This guy is slowly losing the crowd :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Look at Mr Style Nate Burleson being the only guy not in a suit :nono:

Also, shut the fuck up & read the card dude.

Mate.

https://www.buymoviejackets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Eddie-Murphy-Beverly-Hills-Cop-Detroit-Lions-Jacket-450x600.jpg

It's the Axel Foley jacket and he even mentioned the banana thing from Beverley Hills Cop.

[Dan]

Kerryon Johnson over Guice as well.

[Pleb]

That was a waste of a pick and trade though.

[Browning]

And it STILL wasn't Guice.

If he doesn't go here to Washington I'd just give up if I were him.

[Dan]

Mate.

https://www.buymoviejackets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Eddie-Murphy-Beverly-Hills-Cop-Detroit-Lions-Jacket-450x600.jpg

It's the Axel Foley jacket and he even mentioned the banana.

I guess that's probably a new release in Detroit, to be fair.

[Dan]

HERE COME THE TRADES!

Niners are moving up now.

[Pleb]

49ers moved up Browning so there's hope.

RIP

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love when people shit on the draft audience.

Ahead of Kirk?

[Dan]

I like Pettis, but that's a surprise. I'd have thought they would've gone for a bigger WR, and I have Pettis graded a bit later. Having said that, I like him & he was one of the guys I'd got on the list of potential 3rd round WRs for the Saints.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like Pettis, but that's a surprise. I'd have thought they would've gone for a bigger WR, and I have Pettis graded a bit later. Having said that, I like him & he was one of the guys I'd got on the list of potential 3rd round WRs for the Saints.

He would have been there had they not traded.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

KC have traded up.

A WR maybe?

[Pleb]

The Bengals have traded with someone.

I'm hoping it's the Jets. Nope Kansas City :D

[Dan]

Packers going cornerback crazy, but that's a very good pick. Watch the one hander on his tape.

[Pleb]

That's a disgusting trade.

[Dan]

This draft has been great - the script has just been ripped to shreds from day one.

I think my NFL Network feed is slow but I'm watching a stream as well so I know the pick. Has it aired yet?

[Pleb]

I wouldn't be surprised if they take a QB.

[Giggles]

Packers going cornerback crazy, but that's a very good pick. Watch the one hander on his tape.

That's the 7th defensive back from the last 9 round 1 and 2 picks. Most have been average to dire.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This draft has been great - the script has just been ripped to shreds from day one.

I think my NFL Network feed is slow but I'm watching a stream as well so I know the pick. Has it aired yet?

Not on Sky Sports.

Just getting announced now.

[Pleb]

What a fucking name that is.

[Dan]

I wouldn't be surprised if they take a QB.

You mean the Chiefs who just took Mahomes last year & handed it over to him? They might take one in the last two rounds, but not before that.

Breeland Speaks got ejected twice last season, so I'm surprised the Bengals didn't stick & take him themselves.

[Dan]

Christian Kirk is a nice player - he & Larry Fitz should be a good, reliable duo for Rosen to throw to.

[Dan]

That Chargers pass rush is stupid.

[Pleb]

Gray Fox is on the clock :drool:

[Dan]

Someone let me know when the Eagles actually pick someone.

You're on the clock. Traded up three spots.

[Gray Fox]

Work some magic, Howie.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Akers should do a D-X 'suck it' sign.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Akers :D

Keep going lad to shit on the Cowboys.

[Pleb]

The memes are real.

Holy fuck :D

[Dan]

Akers :D He could use a throat lozenge, but Dallas Goedert & Zach Ertz is a disgusting TE duo.

[Pleb]

My fantasy team is safe this season :youpi:

[Gray Fox]

I fucking love Akers.

Was hoping for some of that last night. Goedert fills a Trey Burton shaped hole in the team. Not many other players I'd like to have seen us take there. Maybe Guice.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Witten retired today....

So it's amazing from Howie to jump ahead of them to take a TE.

[Gray Fox]

Whoever took control away from Howie, ever. Never mind for Chip fucking Kelly, should be shot.

[Pleb]

The Cowboys take a guard? :D

Why is he a tackle? :D

[Dan]

Connor Williams stays in Texas, and they announced him as a guard.

[Dan]

The Cowboys take a guard? :D

Why is he a tackle? :D

He played LT at Texas, but there's been lots of talk about him moving inside as his arms are a bit short.

[Gray Fox]

Oh and that's our 1 and only pick in the first 3 rounds. See you next year guys :p

[Pleb]

Gray Fox :cool:

[Dan]

Another trade. Patriots doing what they do best on day two.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He played LT at Texas, but there's been lots of talk about him moving inside as his arms are a bit short.

I've also heard that he's a bit too light to play guard and that he was a 4th/5th round guy. Although Travis Frederick was said to be a 4th round guy, Dallas was mocked and he's probably the best in the game right now.

Doesn't even fill a real need.

I reckon they were rattled having lost out on Sutton, Kirk and Goedert so picked the Dallas guy in the green room to get some cheers.

[Dan]

Wow, I've just heard the pick :drool:

I love Miller, and Kemoko Turay was another one on the list of guys I was hoping would be there for us in R3.

[Dan]

MJ Stewart can play. I had him to Minnesota at the end of the round, but I expected that to be Jessie Bates or Justin Reid.

EDIT: There goes Jessie. How long before they say baseball?

About four seconds.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dan, what WR's are we looking at in round 3?

I'm hoping we take one with one of our picks.

I wouldn't even be surprised if we take Guice with one of round 3 picks.

[Dan]

Dan, what WR's are we looking at in round 3?

I'm hoping we take one with one of our picks.

I wouldn't even be surprised if we take Guice with one of round 3 picks.

Depends what type you want - from the big WRs I like Deon Cain, and the small, quick ones DaeSean Hamilton.

James Washington, DJ Chark & Equanimeous St Brown are worth a look too, and if you just want a dude to go up & get the ball Auden Tate is a monster.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Equanimeous St. Brown if only for the name :yn:

[Dan]

Bellichick's gonna Bellichick :cool: Sam Hubbard or a QB, I'd think. Outside bet is Isaiah Oliver.

Donte Jackson should be able to run with Ted Ginn pretty easily, so there goes that tactic from last season.

[Ian]

Deon Cain is a vowel away from being Superman so surely he's the winner.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love Willie Brown.

[Dan]

Interesting pick. I don't know a whole lot about Dawson other than that he's a nickel guy, but he seems to be pretty consistently thought of as a round 3 guy so okay.

Raiders sending out a crazy pensioner for their pick :cool: That's a massive jump for PJ Hall, the kick block master. I'd expected him to be a round 4 guy, but he's talked about as the small school Aaron Donald & the Raiders are just swinging for traits so why not?

[Dan]

Apparently there might be something on Guice other than the combine interview stuff - talk of a video that may or may not exist.

[Dan]

I'm not a fan of the NFC South loading up on defence. Brett Kolmann loves Isaiah Oliver, which is enough for me to hate him going to the Falcons.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There he goes.

[Dan]

It's over, Guice is off to Washington.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We have two early third rounders.

Orlando Brown and a WR. Believe me.

[Dan]

I'm really not sure how I feel about James Washington. You watch him in college & he's just running wide open downfield all the time, but I'm not sure if he can do that at the next level. He's got the build to go over the middle though, and he's got decent catch & run ability, so at worst he should be a solid WR3. I don't see him being better than JuJu or peak Martavis though.

Chark is another one that just burns people deep, and he's probably more like Martavis than James Washington is, but he's still raw as a route runner so we'll see how he turns out. He could be a pretty good player if he can get a bit more polished, but he could also be DaVante Parker.

Brian O'Neill goes in about the right spot - I had him staying in Pittsburgh to learn from another TE turned OT in Alejandro Villanueva. Not sure we'll be seeing him on many jet sweeps in the Minnesota offence though.

[Dan]

Colts have traded up to 64 with the Browns.

Bucs are all about defence so far. I wonder if MJ Stewart will play nickel or whether they're just planning on using him to sort out the safety spot.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've traded down.

[Dan]

I'm not big on Tyquan Lewis, but then I don't know if you can really go too far wrong with an Ohio State defensive player.

Is Sam Hubbard still on the board? Him, Mason Rudolph & Maurice Hurst as well, although it sounds like Hurst could be crashing because of the heart issue.

[Dan]

Raiders aren't exactly doing a whole lot to get out of the bottom five worst drafting teams in the league. Brandon Parker is okay, but I'm not sure why they're stacking up on tackles when they have a garbage defence.

[Dan]

People were talking about Lorenzo Carter as a potential late first round guy, but I had him as a late 2/early 3 so I'm pretty happy with that.

Chad Thomas is two spots below Carter on my board (admittedly they're both graded as late 3's), but it's kind of a meh pick. Justin Reid, however, is great. He's a similar type of player to Minkah, so having him in the same building as Tyrann Mathieu should be a pretty good strategy.

BJ Hill is a good pick too. That NC State D-Line was filthy last year, and it wasn't all Bradley Chubb. Hill & Justin Jones were kicking the shit out of people on the inside, although I'd imagine Jones will be a round 4 guy.

[Dan]

Fred Warner is in the sam tier as Darius Leonard for me, so to get him a full round later is pretty good. Fingers crossed he doesn't suddenly start beating his girlfriend.

Royce Freeman could be a nice pick for the Broncos. I think there might only be one or two quality RBs left on the board now before you get to all the top committee backs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That song :sick:

[Dan]

The Raiders took a small school DT last round, but Nathan Shepherd is the one they should have gone for. He's 25, which is obviously a bit rubbish, but he's can play & he's got a ridiculous physique for a 315lb dude.

EDIT: The livestream is kicking up & they're now two picks ahead of TV.

[Dan]

Shit is about to go down lads...

Ravens are going trade crazy here, but you wait until this next pick.

He still gets to throw to James Washington :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bengals need to draft a QB so we have a set of rookies in the division.

[Dan]

They might well get one in the next couple of rounds. They could do with a backup, and ideally one who could challenge Andy Dalton in a year or two.

It's not coming here though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and we better not trade down again. I need sleep and I want to see our two picks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For when Burfict is suspended.

[Dan]

Those are two nice pick from the Bengals. They're having a pretty solid draft, actually.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Orlando Brown and a WR is still on btw.

[Dan]

You'll probably end up trading back to round six & stacking up on 2019 picks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Entirely plausible.

[Dan]

I know the Baltimore pick :)

Tracy Walker came up somewhere around 250 on that expert ranking list I compiled, so that seems like a pretty big reach.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Knew it.

[Dan]

Orlando Brown and a WR is still on btw.

:thbgrin:

He's not as bad as the combine suggests.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Before his combine we were meant to get him in the first.

[Dan]

Okay, the Chargers just need to stop now. It's not fair anymore.

[Dan]

Raiders have traded for 87.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Okay, or a TE.

I guess we're hoping for WRs tomorrow.

[Dan]

Stockpiling Oklahoma guys in round three. Hayden Hurst will do all the blocking anyway, and there are loads of decent WRs left.

The Raiders are still swinging :drool:

[Dan]

I have no idea who I want us to pick. I'd say maybe TE Ian Thomas, but it might be worth trading back & seeing if we can get back some 2019 picks.

[Dan]

I'd rather have had DaeSean Hamilton, but okay. TE or trade back would have been higher on the list though.

[Dan]

I feel sorry for the guy announcing the Steelers' pick. I also feel sorry for the guys who had to play against Alex Cappa.

Nice moment there from the Bills Mafia. They'll probably put him through a flaming table later.

[Foe]

Lauletta is off to the Giants. Hope bill didn't have all his hopes pinned to him.

can watch live on NFL.com until the coverage starts on sky sports at 7.

[Dan]

That started six hours earlier than yesterday :cab:

Antonio Calloway & Josh Gordon in the same WR room might not be a fantastic idea. Broncos adding Josey Jewell & DaeSean Hamilton to the Broncos gets a thumbs up, Ian Thomas to the Panthers is annoying, Kyzir White to the Chargers is just more obsecenity, and Kalen Ballage to the Dolphins is an okay spot for him.

Averett, Kenny Young & Jaleel Scott is a solid round from the Ravens, and we've continued to be a bit off what I was expecting by taking OL Rick Leonard, who I'm not sure I've even heard of. Eagles drafting Josh Sweat to be yet another pass rusher is terrifying if his leg doesn't fall off.

[Dan]

Oakland could have just redeemed themselves with Maurice Hurst in round five. It's another gamble, but if they pay off Mack, Hurst & Key on the same defence will be insane.

[Dan]

It was meant to be :wub: I kinda wish they'd let Shaquill read the pick though.

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Tre Flowers & Michael 'greatest punter of all time' Dickson makes round five a good one for Seattle.

[Dan]

Tavon Austin traded to the Cowboys for a sixth round pick.

Denver & the Chargers are just kicking the shit out of this draft.

[Foe]

Going to assume nobody can pronounce the notre dame wideout.

Guess Brian Hoyer can keep cheerleading tom Brady.

[Foe]

Tavon Austin traded to the Cowboys for a sixth round pick.

Denver & the Chargers are just kicking the shit out of this draft.

Charlie casserly is not a fan at all of Tavon austin which was quite amusing to see. :D

Seriously odd move though, he's not cheap and he's not exactly going to pull double teams.

Guess they might just roll a couple of speedsters, suck everyone into the box with zeke and throw some hails downfield and pray.

[Dan]

Mike White & Luke Falk are both still there somehow. They were both day two guys to a lot of people.

Ravens take Jordan Lasley, who made a fuckload of plays with Josh Rosen, but also has off field issues & dropped more balls than anyone else in college. He's the Breshaud Perriman replacement.

[Dan]

Charlie casserly is not a fan at all of Tavon austin which was quite amusing to see. :D

Seriously odd move though, he's not cheap and he's not exactly going to pull double teams.

Guess they might just roll a couple of speedsters, suck everyone into the box with zeke and throw some hails downfield and pray.

"Nothing for nothing" :D Apparently they're planning on moving Tavon to RB.

Steelers getting Jaylen Samuels is a sneaky good move. He'll be a RB/TE/FB/WR and probably anything else you want him to do - great mismatch weapon. Dmitri Flowers will be similar.

[Foe]

Nope, I'm wrong. Tavon Austin the running back, apparently.

[Foe]

Nice little run of punters and kickers in the 5th round. Boy from Texas, Carlton from auburn and then jk Scott from bama.

Just need Eddie pineiro to round it off.

[Dan]

Deon Cain, Equanimeous St Brown, Cedrick Wilson, Simmie Cobbs, Marcell Ateman all still available at the top of the sixth round, and that's just the WRs. Luke Falk still there too, as well as CB Holton Hill from Texas, LB Tegray Scales from Indiana and Akrum Wadley from Iowa at RB (John Kelly & Duke Ejiofor too but they've just been picked back to back by the Rams & Texans).

Jets traded a 7th to the Colts for Henry Anderson too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/jaleel-scott-is-a-major-2018-nfl-draft-sleeper-with-no-1-wideout-potential/

I like the sound of him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1 letter away from Superman has gone :(

[Dan]

Deon Cain finally goes to the Colts. Apparently off field stuff dropped him down, but he's much better than a sixth rounder on the field.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hate the feed that is on Sky Sports, it's not showing any of the fucking pick selections.

It's just dickheads talking about anything they want draft related. Luckily the stream on the NFL website actually is showing the picks.

[Dan]

I'm just watching the Bleacher Report stream on YouTube.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought about that but the NFL video works on Amazon Fire TV via the Firefox app.

[Dan]

Four of the next six picks belong to the Rams :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rams struggling to get shit sorted live :D

Can he practice?

[Dan]

Shaun Dion Hamilton & Jack Cichy could be good value linebackers in round six if they can stay healthy - both have missed lots of time with injuries over the last two years. Not sure how Tegray Scales is still on the board either.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wankers.

I was hoping we'd take St. Brown in a few picks.

[Dan]

Packers take Equanimeous St Brown. That could be pretty good if he can get himself sorted out.

Cedrick Wilson right afterwards is a good pick too, although he's not going to help a whole lot with the lack of a Dez Bryant type WR.

There's clearly a run on WRs now, white boy supreme Braxton Berrios goes to his natural fit in New England two picks later.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It genuinely angers me when they show highlights from Boise State players.

The blue pitch :sick:

[Dan]

Couple of solid O-Line depth picks from the Ravens.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We don't even had a C on the roster right now so yay.

[Gray Fox]

So after Goedert in the 2nd, we've taken Avonte Maddox(CB) and Josh Sweat(DE) in the 4th and then Matt Pryor(OT) in the 6th.

Nothing overly flashy, but I like it. We add depth at tackle and the edge. I really like sniping Goedert from Dallas, but the one that interests me now is Maddox. He's very talented and I've seen Mayock waxing lyrical about him being a R1 talent but for his height. However I was surprised to see he's only 5"9.

He's the same height as me. Unless he broke all kinds of jumping records, I don't see him playing against #1 receivers.

[Dan]

Josh Sweat is a freak, and he could probably come in & contribute as a rusher straight away, it's just that he has an injury so bad that he nearly lost his leg, so there are some pretty serious medical concerns. If he stays healthy he'll be a great pick.

[Dan]

Danny Etling & Tanner Lee are two of the worst QBs in the class, and they've gone to the Patriots & Jaguars respectively.

[Gray Fox]

Josh Sweat is a freak, and he could probably come in & contribute as a rusher straight away, it's just that he has an injury so bad that he nearly lost his leg, so there are some pretty serious medical concerns. If he stays healthy he'll be a great pick.

I'll admit I don't know a great deal about him, but many reactions say the same as above. First rounder but for the knee. We also did this with Sidney Jones last season. So Howie is obviously just looking at talent.

The Sweat pick also signals the end of the Sam Bradford trade. We traded him for Derek Barnett and Josh Sweat essentially. Can't be mad at that. Especially as we've kept Jim Schwartz.


Danny Etling & Tanner Lee are two of the worst QBs in the class, and they've gone to the Patriots & Jaguars respectively.

Bill likes a challenge I guess?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

KICKER TIME, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Let's go Jason Sanders.

[Dan]

Gotta love Matt Miller getting calls from teams asking if they have Poona Ford's number because they want to sign him as a UDFA.

[Dan]

Cowboys just traded Ryan Switzer to the Raiders, apparently for Jihad Ward.

Eagles just drafted a rugby player Gray Fox

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eagles draft a former rugby player from Australia.

[Dan]

Holton Hill apparently failed ANOTHER drug test. At the combine :D He's basically given up an NFL career for weed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bo Scarbrough coming in for 'Zeke to pound it out is scary.

[Dan]

The Lions going full nasty, power run game by taking a legit full back.

[Gray Fox]

6"8 you say? Samoan?

Someone keep the boy away from Vince McMahon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

6"8 you say? Samoan?

Someone keep the boy away from Vince McMahon.

I'm sure he could throw a superman punch and spear every minute.

[Dan]

He'll be in a tag team with Vita Vea once they're done.

Zach Sieler isn't even on Matt Miller's 500 player list :D I saw him on one list when I was doing the expert comparison list, but I don't think anyone really know anything about him.

Richie James could be fun with the 49ers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He'll be in a tag team with Vita Vea once they're done.

Zach Sieler isn't even on Matt Miller's 500 player list :D I saw him on one list when I was doing the expert comparison list, but I don't think anyone really know anything about him.

Richie James could be fun with the 49ers.

Ozzie likes picking up small school guys who look brilliant.

[Gray Fox]

https://i.gyazo.com/c12d7e0ade7164540595b0b9361121e8.png

Never change, Dallas fans :D

[Dan]

Akrum Wadley going undrafted is going to be a huge surprise. Come to think of it, has Auden Tate been picked yet?

[Dan]

Will Clapp is a pretty good pick from us - I had him going around the fourth, and we desperately need interior O-Line depth.

EDIT: Patriots get their Gronk replacement! Probably not, but they get Ryan Izzo.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Akrum Wadley going undrafted is going to be a huge surprise. Come to think of it, has Auden Tate been picked yet?

Nope.

[Dan]

Auden Tate & Simmie Cobbs getting shit on here. Clearly big jump ball guys who don't have great speed aren't in fashion anymore.

[Pleb]

A Charger fan saying there facing the Cowboys in the Superbowl this season is pretty :D if anything.

Anything worth of note lads? Guess I didn't miss much.

[Dan]

There he goes! He'll be a red zone beast & solid guy in traffic, and probably not much else. BR guys are talking about moving him to TE, which would be interesting, and could've been a great move for us.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There you go.

[Dan]

I completely forgot about Josh Adams. Clearly everyone else did as well.

There are some decent UDFA's available, although I'm not sure there are going to be any superstars out there off the top of my head.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How have you never mentioned Hercules Mata'afa?

I want him on the Ravens.

[Dan]

He's got no clear role - he played inside in college, but he's too small to do it in the NFL, and he's not athletic enough to play on the edge. I think there was talk that he'd have to move to LB, but he's never played there before, so he's basically a complete projection.

[Gray Fox]

A Charger fan saying there facing the Cowboys in the Superbowl this season is pretty :D if anything.

Anything worth of note lads? Guess I didn't miss much.

Chargers are sneaky good you know. 9-3 last season after a 0-4 start. They've added well in the draft. The AFC is weaker too, so they have a chance to be up there. Cowboys not as much.

They'll be facing a revitalised Giants, along with the Eagles just in their division. If they get through that, there's the Rams, Saints, Falcons, Vikings and the Packers and Packers will be there too. I don't see them being better than any of those teams this year.

[Browning]

The Dolphins drafting a Kicker that isn't Eddy Pinieiro further enhances their status as being absolute cunts. He can kick from 80 yards!!

I only heard of him today... but still.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's got no clear role - he played inside in college, but he's too small to do it in the NFL, and he's not athletic enough to play on the edge. I think there was talk that he'd have to move to LB, but he's never played there before, so he's basically a complete projection.

But the fucking name...

[Gray Fox]

We've got Sproles back for another year. 528 yard this season and he enters the top 5 in history for all-purpose yards.

[Ian]

I love a bit of Sproles. I'd have had him at Denver any time.

[Dan]

But the fucking name...

He's signed with the Vikings, sadly, as has Holton 'Cypress' Hill. They've also grabbed a few nice WRs in Jake Wieneke, Korey Robertson & Jeff Badet, and an RB in Roc Thomas.

Some other notable UDFA deals (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-signings-from-all-32-nfl-teams-in-one-place/):

QB JT Barrett (projected UDFA) & LB Skai Moore (projected R4) to the Colts
WR Simmie Cobbs (projected R4), OL Sean Welsh (projected R5-6) & RB Martez Carter (projected R7) to the Redskins
EDGE Jeff Holland (projected R3-4) to the Broncos
CB JC Jackson (projected R5, off field concerns) to the Patriots
RB/FB/TE Dmitri Flowers (projected R5) to the Jets
DT Poona Ford (projected R7) & LS Tanner Carew (projected UDFA, donned the Senior Bowl) to the Seahawks
RB Josh Adams (projected R5) & DE Joe Osman (projected R6-7) to the Eagles
QB Quinton Flowers (projected UDFA, but great story as he lost both parents at a young age. Likely to end up playing RB) to the Bengals
OL Desmond Harrison (projected R4, off field concerns) to the Browns
CB Tony Brown (projected R5) to the Chargers - they've signed a fuckton of guys
K Eddy Pineiro & LB Jason Cabinda (both projected UDFAs) to the Raiders
CB Quenton Meeks (projected R4-5) & WR Allen Lazard (projected R5) to the Jaguars
WR Deontay Burnett (projected R6-7), RB Akrum Wadley (projected R4), LB Nick Deluca (projected UDFA) & S Damon Webb (projected R5) to the Titans
CBs Michael Joseph (projected R7, small school kid), Rashard Fant (projected UDFA) & Kevin Tolliver (projected R5, off field concerns) to the Bears
DE JoJo Wicker (projected R6) to the Lions
LB Tegray Scales (projected R3-4) to the Rams
DT DuVonta Lampkin (projected UDFA) to the Ravens
CB Tavarus McFadden (projected R5) to the 49ers
QB Kurt Benkert (projected R5) to the Falcons
QB Riley Ferguson (projected R6-7) to the Buccaneers

Loads more, obviously, but those were the ones that stood out to me.

[Dan]

We’ve poached JT Barrett off the Colts. He’s not going to be the long term answer at QB, and he’s probably not even going to beat out Taysom Hill, but he’s a fantastic locker room guy & he’d be a solid option as another weird, Sean Payton gimmick guy. I bet he’s already planning some insane play with Barrett, Hill & Kamara all on the field at the same time.

[Pleb]

We got Dimitri Flowers (RB) via free agency, was he one of the ones that had HYPE?

Can't remember.

[Dan]

Yeah, Matt Miller loves him so much he was actively texting teams while doing the BR stream telling them they should draft him.

[Dan]

Oakland could have just redeemed themselves with Maurice Hurst in round five. It's another gamble, but if they pay off Mack, Hurst & Key on the same defence will be insane.

Apparently a lot of teams are seriously concerned about Maurice Hurst's condition, saying no doctor should clear him, he should never be allowed to play football again & it's irresponsible of the Raiders to even draft him.

I'm not an expert, but that doesn't sound good.


I'm sure there's a gif somewhere of him basically chokeslamming an LSU lineman last season, but I can't find it. He's vicious as fuck, but he's also really good technically.

I found it (https://www.facebook.com/VeteranScout/videos/2039209242773103/) :drool:

[Pleb]

Jason Witten retiring to be an analyst for ESPN is a bit :D

[Foe]

Bandage required after Petty cut.

[Gray Fox]

Matt Ryan just got handed far too much money.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Five-year, $150 million contract extension with $100 million guaranteed.

Jesus fuck.

[Foe]

The real kicker will be Jameis winston. If he gets handed levels like that the market is broken.

Rodgers will be able to buy most of wisonsin when he gets paid.

[Dan]

Matt Ryan & Kirk Cousins are probably third tier QBs at best. If they’re getting $30m a year then Rodgers & Wilson should be getting at least $35m.

Jameis ought to be having to beg for Brees money ($25m), but he’ll no doubt end up getting more.

How do we feel about Jameis & Mariota, actually? Worth being the first two picks of their class? I just went back to see who else was there & it was a horrendous class, so maybe, but good enough relative to other top QBs like Goff & Wentz? Maybe not.

[Foe]

Winston is just wild, absolutely wild with the ball. He's got the leadership skills but you need to back it up with talent. He's good, but he's an andy dalton good.

I think if tampa have another shitey season it'll verify that.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don’t think either have really progressed from where they were when they entered the league.

Mariota is maybe more down to injuries & being on a shit team with a bad coach who runs an offence that doesn’t suit him, but Winston just seems to have not ever evolved past being an above average QB who will make a couple of horrific throws every game.

This is definitely the big season for them though - they both need to show actual improvements if they’re ever going to become proper franchise guys rather than chilling in the Dalton Zone that puts your team in purgatory for a decade because you can never quite justify paying up to properly replace them, but they’re never good enough to get you where you want to go.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Winston just wants to try and win the game with every throw. It's like how I used to play Madden when I knew none of the rules.

[Foe]

It'll be interesting to see what vrabel does with mariotta. He's such a defensive minded coach I can only imagine he'll dig into the "what did I think was a nightmare to defend against him twice a season" and then push that as a basis.

Ground pound is likely, particularly with derrick Henry and bo Scarborough.

[Dan]

We’ve binned Fleener & the Panthers have signed CJ Anderson.

Pretty sure Fleener’s properly finished with concussion issues, so it was really smart of us to pick up a TE in the draft. Oh, wait :moop:

[Gray Fox]

Would have been interesting to see what you could have done with Goedert and Breesus together.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Should sign Gates to create the oldest 2 Tight End set.

[Dan]

Benjamin Watson will have 60 catches this season. Either that or we’re just going to make Brandon Coleman play TE, which actually might not be a bad idea.

[Dan]

More Saints news. Apparently Mark Ingram has been suspended 4 games for PEDs :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a moron, he'll be the backup to Kamara by the time he's back.

[Dan]

I really don’t think Kamara is going to be an every down guy, and if he is he’ll be far less effective than he was last season.

He might get a few less carries for a couple of weeks, but they work best when they split the job.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eagles have cut Mychal Kendricks for some reason:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933857/article/eagles-release-inside-linebacker-mychal-kendricks

I'd love us to take a run at him but I reckon the Steelers will throw money at him.

The timing of the release is especially strange:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933795/article/eagles-lb-paul-worrilow-suffers-torn-acl-during-otas

Paul Worrilow has torn his ACL so will be out for the season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933859/article/jets-trade-christian-hackenberg-to-oakland-raiders

Hackenberg has gone to the Raiders for a 7th round pick.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933891/article/owners-approve-changes-to-kickoff-use-of-helmet

Kick off changes have happened and they're basically trying to make them as pointless as possible. Oh and a helmet hit can see players get ejected now.

[Ian]

Am I misunderstanding or do some of those kick-off changes actually help the returning team for once? Like, if the kicking team get less of a run up as the kick is taken doesn't that help the returner?

[Giggles]

They just need to get rid of kickoffs altogether and do this.


https://youtu.be/t_SsIKgwvz4

[Gray Fox]

Hunter Henry is the next to blow his knee out. Gone for 2018.

[Dan]

Well that one absolutely sucks. Basically every fantasy analyst was wanking about him this season so I look forward to a week of ‘RIP HH’ podcasts & articles.

Eagles have been trying to get rid of Kendricks for a year, so it’s not too much of a surprise. LOL at someone giving anything for Hackenberg though. Of course it would be the Raiders, who seem to have gone back to the Al Davis days of just stacking up on physical specimens who can’t actually play football.

[Dan]

Owners need to stop having ideas, they’re just making themselves look silly. (“https://mobile.twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/999017170704240642”)

[Browning]

Hunter... for fuck sake.

Just when I get as ready to set my dynasty team aside for a couple of months.

[Giggles]

Fining teams if a player doesn't stand for the anthem. Land of the free indeed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Heil Trump.

[Ian]

This sort of thing is why Captain America got sick of their shit. And yet they never learn. :nono:

[Dan]

Some guy I’ve never heard of wants a weed exemption or he’ll retire (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/44021469)

:wave:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He sucks anyway, there's a reason why he still doesn't have a team.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000935414/article/cb-adonis-alexander-to-apply-for-2018-nfl-supplemental-draft

Hype because Adonis Alexander has declared for the supplemental draft and is expected to be the first drafted since Isaiah Battle in 2015.

[Dan]

Yeah, saw that this morning. Being academically ineligible is always a good sign for your ability to learn a complicated NFL playbook, but to be fair he does sound like he’s got his shit together a bit.

He’ll probably be a second or third round supplemental pick, which would be the highest since Josh Gordon in 2012, if I remember rightly.

[Browning]

How “academically ineligible” do you have to be to not get into a college if you’re an NFL ready CB? Surely someone would make an exception to get him in.

[Foe]

How “academically ineligible” do you have to be to not get into a college if you’re an NFL ready CB? Surely someone would make an exception to get him in.

He could transfer to some shit school probably but he'd have to sit a year out. May aswell leave and just try and go pro. Unlikely that shit school would help your draft stock anyway.

[Giggles]

Kellen Winslow Jr has been busy.

[Dan]

Not quite as bad as Winslow, but another Buc in trouble.

Jameis has been suspended for three games for the Uber grope incident, apparently. They still have Fitzmagic, right?

[Browning]

Fitzmagic always finds a way to start :drool:

[Gray Fox]

Mike Evans stock just crashed :happycry:

[Dan]

Guess I should’ve traded him for Ingram & Crowder after all, huh?

[Gray Fox]

I'm sure you can survive 3 whole games of Fitzmagic. Though I'm not sure the Bucs can!

[Dan]

I definitely feel better about us playing the Bucs week one now :D They’re probably going 0-3 given they also play the Eagles & Steelers.

[Browning]

Fitzmagic is the best QB in the league (2 is McCown and 3 is Hoyer) so this is an upgrade.

[Gray Fox]

Hopefully our defence is as good as least season. He should have fun escaping our pass rush.

[Foe]

Geniunely not sure that fitz is even a downgrade on Winston at this point. Thought that last year too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23916802/police-investigating-body-discovered-home-new-york-giants-cb-janoris-jenkins

Body found in Janoris Jenkins's house. Not him though.

[Gray Fox]

Kam Chancellor is done. I believe that is the last member of the Legion of Boom gone from Seattle too.

[Gray Fox]

He's not actually retired as I thought, but not medically cleared to return. Because of that difference, he's still entitled to $6.2m from this season and $5.2m from next season are fully guaranteed.

[Dan]

Just got an email from NFL Store about new merch:

http://i68.tinypic.com/nwatqv.png

:D

[Pleb]

That's worse than my Jets T-shirt that my parents gave me :D

[Dan]

Well if you need another one this series probably has a NY Planes jersey.

[Gray Fox]

Can I get a Superbowl Champions 76ers Jersey?

[Dan]

Aaron Jones & Reuben Foster have bought been suspended for two games, and Julian Edelman’s appeal has been denied, so he’s out for four.

Jones’s is particularly lol as he just been talking about how he was bulking up for better durability & pass protection. Guess we know how he’d been doing it now :D

[wullie]

Kam Chancellor is done. I believe that is the last member of the Legion of Boom gone from Seattle too.

Byron Maxwell's knocking about again and still clinging on to Earl Thomas by the fingernails for now, pleading and screaming

[Dan]

Just managed to find a ticket to Titans/Chargers kicking about :drool:

[Foe]

He's not actually retired as I thought, but not medically cleared to return. Because of that difference, he's still entitled to $6.2m from this season and $5.2m from next season are fully guaranteed.

That's a fucking great deal though. $11.4 million to sit about. No chance I'd be signing that retirement letter. A shame he can't play, but he can always play it like he's clinging to the hope he gets better.

[Browning]

RIP Shady McCoy's career.

[Dan]

Shady in being wanker shocker.

Who the fuck is going to do anything in that offence? Chris fucking Ivory would be the RB1 :D

[Dan]

Nice of Brandon Browner to try to deflect some of the heat on Shady.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Supplemental draft just took place.

Giants took Sam Beal in the third and the Redskins took Adonis Alexander in the sixth.

Brandon Bryant, Martavyeus Carter and Bright Ugwoegbu went undrafted.

[Dan]

Didn't realise it was happening already - seems like two pretty good pickups that are going to be sorely needed to help slow down that devastating Cowboys passing attack.

[Gray Fox]

Dez Bryant is still a FA. It's great.

[Dan]

I feel kinda bad for DeMarco Murray that he retired days ago & we've not even mentioned it.

[Ian]

It turns out I basically pay zero attention to the NFL in the off season these days because there's so much junk to wade through. It feels like there has been a slight increase in early retirements in recent seasons or is that just a figment of my imagination?

It totally makes sense though, the highly paid players obviously. Unless you're 100% in love with the game why put your body through the ringer when you've earned enough to never need to work again?

[Browning]

DeMarco’s entire legacy will be as the plodder holding down Derrick Henry.

[Dan]

It turns out I basically pay zero attention to the NFL in the off season these days because there's so much junk to wade through. It feels like there has been a slight increase in early retirements in recent seasons or is that just a figment of my imagination?

It totally makes sense though, the highly paid players obviously. Unless you're 100% in love with the game why put your body through the ringer when you've earned enough to never need to work again?

It does seem that way. As you say, it’s probably down to a combination of there being more awareness about the long terms effects on the body & brain, plus everyone who’s had a few decent years being mad rich.

The thought of playing for Buffalo looks to have finished the job, mind.

[Giggles]

It turns out I basically pay zero attention to the NFL in the off season these days because there's so much junk to wade through. It feels like there has been a slight increase in early retirements in recent seasons or is that just a figment of my imagination?

It totally makes sense though, the highly paid players obviously. Unless you're 100% in love with the game why put your body through the ringer when you've earned enough to never need to work again?

Same as that for me. Show me the final 53 man roster in week 1 so I can be interested again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently it's unlikely that Bell will sign a contract before the tag deadline tonight.

If he doesn't sign Schefter is reporting that he could sit out the first 8 games of the season.

If that's the case then the Steelers are fucked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Dan]

All aboard the Jaylen Samuels train :drool:

[Browning]

Bell has basically already said he will be there week one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well that's no fun.

I was hoping he'd sit until week 5 at least.

[Dan]

Brandin Cooks has been given a five year deal with the Rams without even having to play a game.

[Gray Fox]

Brandin Cooks has been given a five year deal with the Rams without even having to play a game.

He's being paid a ridiculous amount of money for someone who hasn't played a game too.

I hope someone has woken him up to tell him.

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[Browning]

That Steelers contract offer was disgusting.

$33m in guaranteed money over 5 years. When you remove the 14.5m fully guaranteed that was already on the table under the franchise tag, they wanted him for another 4 years for only another 17.5m in guaranteed money? He'd probably get that on the tag just for next year....

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940926/article/report-ravens-to-pick-up-breshad-perriman-bonus

Baltimore Ravens former first-round pick Breshad Perriman will get a chance to battle for a job during training camp.

The Ravens plan to pick up Perriman's $649,485 roster bonus, which is due on Saturday, ESPN's Jamison Hensley reported.

There was some thought that Baltimore might decide to jettison the disappointing receiver rather than pay the roster bonus to a player not guaranteed to make the roster.

Lads? The fuck? Just let him go and stop throwing money at brick hands.

[Browning]

Is it normal for GamePass to only offer the "pro" subscription at this point? They emailed me about a new subscription level that sounded ideal, but when I look at it, there's only one option, and I'm not interested in paying that much. I pressed renew hoping it would give me the pricing and options and instead it just said "Congratulations your account will renew on 1st of August". I then cancelled the renewal... so they better not charge me, but it's a bit annoying that I can't see the options available.

[Giggles]

Vikings OL coach Tony Sparano has died.

[Browning]

Todd Gurley just got paid. :cool:

Proves that the Steelers were fucking nuts to think Bell was only worth what they offered.

$45m in guarantees for 4 years with the overall contract being $60m.

[Dan]

And still Aaron Donald waits while less valuable players get handed all his cash...

Anyone watched the new series of Last Chance U? Just started today & it looks like more of the same, only without Brittany Wagner. I should probably watch Coach Snoop afterwards too, that seems like it could be good viewing.

[Foe]

Coach snoop is pish but series 3 of last chance u is quite good.

One of the dudes is an absolute beast and I'm legit excited to see whether he makes it at a different school.

[Dan]

The music video guy :D

[Dan]

Shocking news alert.

Jason Verrett is injured.

Also, Last Chance U was decent.

[Dan]

I’ve just seen that LSU are hosting Alabama & the Saints have the Rams on the weekend of my birthday :sherlock:

[Dan]

Lads, there’s football happening tonight. I don’t even care that it’s the HoF game, I’m ready.

Might even stay up to watch Anthony Miller run wild :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't wait for Tim White and Quincy Adebayjo to show up Perriman only for him to make the roster at their expense.

[Giggles]

Wake me up when the cuts are made.

[Pleb]

Yay Preseason...

Hard Knocks at the Browns though so there's that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Roquan Smith is still holding out.

He doesn't want the team to take his guaranteed money if he were to suspended based on the newly illegal tackles and he wants protection of money if he was to be suspended for any off the field issues.

Bears are willing to work with the first thing but the second one, rightly, is a major sticking point.

He's already out of tonight's pre-season game

[Dan]

Is he planning to have off-field issues & exclusively tackle by leading with the crown of his helmet? Probably not a great way to negotiate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's got a basement full of dead hookers waiting to be discovered after the ink is dry.

[Dan]

He's got a basement full of dead hookers waiting to be discovered after the ink is dry.

They're probably in Janoris Jenkins' basement to be fair.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Sucks that Dixon, Quincy, Jaylen Hill and Bowser wont get any work tonight.

Hopefully Loomar can do something and RGIII gets injured or something.

[Dan]

Time to start up the engine on the Lamar Jackson hype train then.