Fantasy NFL 2016 Sign Up Thread

[Gray Fox]

It's nearly that time again. Just under 2 months until NFL action starts again on the 7th of August, with pre-season proper starting just after on the 11th August.

I've created a TTH league on the official NFL site. I can get the details up or leave it to PM people who want in.

This thread should be used for sign ups, draft talk, rules/format discussions etc.
Obvious thing for debate would be the draft. I've penciled it in for the 1st of August as it asks for a date anyway, but I'd be happy to do an offline draft provided we get the necessary people and time to do it.

Right now I have standard scoring with a roster set of 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D/ST with a flex of 1 RB/WR/TE.

Any input or suggestions are welcome.

1. Me
2. Ian
3. Browning
4. Mahow
5. Pleb
6. Dan
7. Baz
8. Mert
9. Bruhnaldo

[Ian]

Is there a particular reason we're binning off Yahoo?

We may have discussed it and I've just forgotten.

[Browning]

No idea. But I'll play whatever we use.

[Ian]

Oh yeah, I'll be in anyway. I'm just curious.

[Browning]

I mean I prefer to stay on Yahoo because the league is already set up and it'll be easier for me to check it with all my other leagues, but I'm open to trying something new. I'll just go with the majority.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't mind which site we use, I will play.

Offline draft is aids btw.

[Browning]

Agreed on that, I won't do an Offline draft. The draft is the best part.

[Pleb]

I was going to suggest Fleaflicker but the official NFL site sounds like a good plan.

[Dan]

I'll give it a go this year. Not done one before but I feel like I now know enough about players etc. to just be pretty bad, rather than hilariously inept, so it seems like the ideal time to join.

[Gray Fox]

I had no idea there was one already set up on Yahoo. I'll use whichever is preferable.

Though actually now it's been mentioned I'm sure I remember something about it.

[Pleb]

Fleaflicker, Fox or the actual NFL site is probably your best bet.

Having 8 players would be ideal though.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah 8 is what I've set it up for. Obviously it can be upped or lowered if needed. But we've got 6 straight away. With a bit of luck a few more will sign up.

[Browning]

Best approach is get to 8 and then only allow more to join in pairs. Fuck having bye weeks and random stuff messing up the schedules. Any less than 8 is a no go.

[Gray Fox]

I had 9 in my league last year and there were no bye weeks. Just not all teams played twice.

[Browning]

That isn't possible. You'd have 4 match ups.... what does the 9th team do?

[Gray Fox]

As for example team #9, you'd play teams #1 through #8 and then go back to #1 again.

[Ian]

That doesn't explain how you can have no bye weeks.

Unless it's a WWE cross-over and has triple-threat matches. :drool:

[Gray Fox]

The spare player would face the league average for the week.

[Browning]

That sounds awful. I was hoping for a Triple Threat too. :D

[Gray Fox]

That sounds awful. I was hoping for a Triple Threat too. :D

It wasn't bad, just a little inconsistent. Not many people actually beat the average. Out of 14 attempts only 5 did it. I was lucky I had my 2nd best week against it.

A triple threat would have been awesome :p

[Ian]

Apparently I was in, and won, an NFL fantasy league in 2011.

No recollection of it at all.

I am a thousand years old.

[Gray Fox]

I once signed up for one but then never touched it. Didn't even show for the draft. Ended up getting Rodgers in his Superbowl year along with the RB1 for the season. I only found out a couple years later that I reached the championship game, losing by only a few points with injured players in my team.
The rest of the league was not happy!

[Baz]

If you get a 7th I'll join to make it upto 8. Otherwise, I'm good.

I guess Foe and elth just haven't seen this yet.

[elth]

I don't really follow the NFL as a whole much any more. Or sport to be honest. Sorry guys.

[Gray Fox]

If you get a 7th I'll join to make it upto 8. Otherwise, I'm good.

I guess Foe and elth just haven't seen this yet.

Good man.

I'll PM you the details.

[Pleb]

I may have to autodraft if the draft is on a weekday if that's alright with you lads.

[Gray Fox]

I can set it to whenever is good for everyone. We could have it any day between today and October.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As close to the first game as possible.

[Pleb]

That^

[Gray Fox]

Realistically we've anywhere in August and up to the 7th of September. I don't really want to leave it until very last minute just incase we have to delay. So I'm thinking somewhere in the last 2 weeks of August? I'd also be up for putting on a mock draft(or more) using the site, so people are used to it come the real one, if it's wanted.

We also have 5 people signed up to the league with I think Browning still to join. If we can get one more, Baz is in too, so if anyone knows anyone on here who may join then tag away.

[Browning]

Yea I've not signed up yet but I will. Happy to draft whenever really. Obviously not during "working hours" but mine are fairly standard so I can make whenever most people can.

[Gray Fox]

How are weekends for everyone?

[Pleb]

Saturdays should be fine :nodd:

[Browning]

Weekends are fine as long as it's not stupidly late on a Sunday night. Not that I imagine it would be.

[Dan]

I work a lot of Saturdays - usually 3 out of every 4 - but would be free in the evenings anyway.

[Gray Fox]

So 6 or 7pm on a Saturday towards the end of August?

[Dan]

I finish about 6-6.30, so 7 would be better for me :D

Can always try to work a day off around it though if there's a certain date that's good for everyone else.

[Gray Fox]

I've set it for the 27th August for now. Is there anyone that couldn't make it?

[Bartholomert]

I'm down.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd prefer it a few days later.

That's still a week and a half before the first game. A shit load of injuries could occur in that time.

[Gray Fox]

I'd prefer it a few days later.

That's still a week and a half before the first game. A shit load of injuries could occur in that time.

I've got weekends as the only realistic times we can all get on it. Leaving the week allows us a chance to delay in case someone can't make it. I realize there's still a pre-season game to be played on the 1st, but if we cant get a weekday going then it only leaves us the 3rd September as a possible draft date.
I can always move it there if that's what people want.

Also if Mert joins then we have our 8 teams.

[Baz]

I'm at my mates wedding on Saturday 27th August but, providing the draft works on my phone, I'll still take part.

I've also edited my preferential draftee list, just in case.

Having not done fantasy NFL for 10 years I'm not sure what a good order is, in regards to which positions to try and fill first/last. Is there a general consensus on the most/least important position, or is it really all down to individual preference? Does every position earn similar points, or is, say, the QB the biggest point-earner and therefore should be your priority to fill first? I understand if you'd rather not answer, because I'll beat you.

Also, how do you lot decide the order of the draft? And is it the same every round, or "snaked," where the person who picks last one round picks first the next? Hope that makes sense.

[bruhnaldo]

you guys should use ESPN or Yahoo tbh

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

LaDanian Tomlinson as your number 1 pick, it has no downsides believe me.

[Baz]

LaDanian Tomlinson as your number 1 pick, it has no downsides believe me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFJ4cQ1TjeM

I've just Googled for tips and the majority seem to suggest the best order to fill positions is 1 RB, 2 WR, 3 RB or WR, 4 RB or WR, 6 TE, 7 QB, 8 K, 9 DEF. Hmm. What does everyone here think of that as a general guideline? Do RBs and WRs grab the most points?

May need to rethink my pre-draft rankings, because a) I've prioritised QB/DEF and b) I've only picked 12 people.

Serious question: if I'm present at the LIVE DRAFT, will I still have access to my pre-draft rankings? Or should I export them/write them down somewhere? Only because I'll be drunk during the draft so might forget that Jason Witten exists.

[Browning]

You will still have access to them, assuming it works like Yahoo.

And yea, you definitely don't want to prioritise Defense. Some people don't even bother drafting one. I wouldn't advocate that, but you certainly won't be grabbing one until you've filled your other starting positions.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I change mine every week, same with kickers unless I manage to draft Justin Tucker.

[Pleb]

I'm in a different fleaflicker league this season so I'm autodrafting that and the points system seems to be a lot better than the last league.

I'm not sure how I'm going to approach our draft, I may take a TE/WR in the first round :sherlock:

[Ian]

If you're taking it seriously, Baz, you'll have a custom value-based drafting spreadsheet ready.

[Baz]

Don't need. Got my mate Ryan.

[Gray Fox]

I've just Googled for tips and the majority seem to suggest the best order to fill positions is 1 RB, 2 WR, 3 RB or WR, 4 RB or WR, 6 TE, 7 QB, 8 K, 9 DEF. Hmm. What does everyone here think of that as a general guideline? Do RBs and WRs grab the most points?

May need to rethink my pre-draft rankings, because a) I've prioritised QB/DEF and b) I've only picked 12 people.

Serious question: if I'm present at the LIVE DRAFT, will I still have access to my pre-draft rankings? Or should I export them/write them down somewhere? Only because I'll be drunk during the draft so might forget that Jason Witten exists.


Having a set draft order is probably a bad idea. You have to learn to go with the flow of the draft and get a good value for your pick. As an example of what I'm on about, I'll use your order. You have down an RB as first pick. You could be unlucky and find yourself as last pick. All of a sudden you find that the top 7 RBs have gone before you and are left with the best RB left, being someone who is usually drafted in say round 3. If you go on you could use your number 1 pick on a round 3 quality player. It may work but these guys are usually still in round 3 for a reason.
At this point it could be worth switching it up and picking a top WR or a top QB, or maybe even Gronk, accept you've been dealt a bad hand at RB and try to pick up the slack elsewhere. I hope I explained that well as it makes sense in my head.

Just don't touch a defence or a kicker until the last few rounds. Your skill positions are much more valuable.

As for your other questions, you can look up the point scoring rules on the league page, though they are up for debate in here if they need changing. As of now for RBs or WRs it's 0.1 points per yard gained and 6 points for a TD. For QBs it's 1 point per 25 yards passed, 4 points per passing TD. 2 points are deducted for losing a fumble or throwing an interception.
We can decide draft order before hand if it's wanted and I've got it as standard for now, So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2, 3 etc... rather than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3 etc...

Also definitely draft Peyton Manning as your first pick.

[Pleb]

Team 8 (mert?) needs to hurry up and register :panda:

I may have to write up a cheat sheet (will probably be useless) for the draft :sherlock:

Any hot first round picks lads to consider?

[Gray Fox]

Mert has registered. Don't you recognize the alpha team name?

[Gray Fox]

Any hot first round picks lads to consider?

One to watch is Zeke Elliott. Largely fancied RB going into a team with a good offensive line. He could be a top guy and if you definitely want him, you'll end up having to basically take him as early as R1.

[Ian]

Get yourself a couple of kickers in the first two rounds, Pleb. Can't be too safe.

[Browning]

Team 8 is me, I'll do it today.

My main league decided it's draft order last night (we have to do it in advance to allow for keepers) and I'm 3rd. I know the first 2 will pick ODB and Rodgers (2 QB league so elite ones go super early) so that'll leave me some great players to pair with my keeper in the 9th round, Allen Robinson. The temptation to keep Julio was huge but a 2nd rounder just isn't as good value.

[Browning]

Draft order should be random on the day and absolutely needs to be a snake draft.

[Browning]

Scanning over the other rules:
9
- Undroppable List should be set to none. We need to trust people not to be cunts, but there's always some players on it who turn out to be absolute shit (Looking at you, Daniel Thomas...)
- Not sure about Waivers resetting to reverse standings. Way I've always played it's just rolled on, so if you don't use your waiver you move up the list. I prefer that but happy to try the new way/go with the majority.

Rosters also seem a bit small, but I'm used to playing with massive rosters that really make you scrape the barrel at times. If that's what's normal again I'll go with it.

[Gray Fox]

Team 8 is me, I'll do it today.

My main league decided it's draft order last night (we have to do it in advance to allow for keepers) and I'm 3rd. I know the first 2 will pick ODB and Rodgers (2 QB league so elite ones go super early) so that'll leave me some great players to pair with my keeper in the 9th round, Allen Robinson. The temptation to keep Julio was huge but a 2nd rounder just isn't as good value.

I've seen Robinson going into the 1st round in some drafts. Crazy value there. The joy of keepers I suppose.

I have the undroppable list like that due to someone being a complete bellend in my league last year and dumping his entire team after his elimination. Of course that's open for debate.
The waivers I have resetting as it should lend a better hand to those at the bottom of the standings. You can turn things around a little easier like that.

Like I say this is all open to debate. So long as we can all agree on the stuff before September :D

[Browning]

I think commissioners have the power to edit rosters, so if anyone is a dick you just put the players back on their roster, but I doubt that'll happen with this lot. I hate can't cut lists with a passion because anyone can turn to horse shit, Manning.... Or get injured for the year.

Happy with the waiver thing. My main suggestion is it MUST be a snake draft. "Standard" is just plain unfair.

Also on the waiver thing I'm not sure having a shit start should entitle you to a bail out, not resetting it makes it equal for everyone. But as I said I'll happily go with whatever.

[Baz]

+1 for snake draft. Imagine drafting 8th every round. :sick:

[Browning]

+1 for snake draft. Imagine drafting 8th every round. :sick:

Indeed. Imagine one person having the 1st, 9th, 17th, 25th etc best players and you have the 8th, 16th, 24th and 32nd? Fucking hell. I have no idea why that even exists.

[Browning]

Is anyone else finding the Fantasy Pros mock draft site to be drunk today? I started a mock draft and every team went TE in round 1....

[Gray Fox]

Just tried it out and it seemed normal to me.

[Browning]

Yea it worked normal for me a couple of hours later. No idea what was going on. :D

[Gray Fox]

And for the 1st pick in this fantasy draft, Browning selects GARY BARNIDGE?

[Baz]

I'm at my mates wedding on Saturday 27th August but, providing the draft works on my phone, I'll still take part.I've had the groom's approval to take part. :nod:

[bruhnaldo]

if there's a 10th laying around i'd gladly be 9th

[Gray Fox]

I can have you down as a 9th but like you say, it's a little awkward without a 10th. There is a league average you can play, but it's just not the same.

I've also moved the draft date back to the weekend before the season starts. I'll be needing popular consensus now. Do we want it linear or snake order?

[Pleb]

Whatever really.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Snake, it has to be.

It's so much fairer.

[Browning]

Snake for sure. Linear is shit and I don't even understand why it exists or why anyone would contemplate it.

[Dan]

Snake seems like the better option to me.

[Gray Fox]

Snake it is.

It'll set to a random order 30 minutes before the start time in order for people to get a chance to make some kind of plan.

Any other things we need to go over?

[bruhnaldo]

I can have you down as a 9th but like you say, it's a little awkward without a 10th. There is a league average you can play, but it's just not the same.

I've also moved the draft date back to the weekend before the season starts. I'll be needing popular consensus now. Do we want it linear or snake order?

Nah of course bub. No worries at all.

[Ian]

Snake order. Snake snake snake. SNAKE.

http://www.maniacworld.com/snake-game.jpg

Don't have some poor bastard get the 8th pick and then have to wait until the 16th.

Linear might work if you were doing a dynasty and basing it on last year's finish but not when you're starting from scratch.

[Browning]

I genuinely don't think I would take part in any league that used linear. Even if I had 1st pick it would suck because winning the league wouldn't feel like an achievement with such a big advantage so what's the point? But yea, glad the right decision has been made.

I do however have no idea when the season starts. What date is the draft?

[Gray Fox]

Season opener is Panthers @ Broncos on 8th September. I've set the draft to the 3rd.

[Ian]

I genuinely don't think I would take part in any league that used linear. Even if I had 1st pick it would suck because winning the league wouldn't feel like an achievement with such a big advantage so what's the point?

I reckon with a dynasty, depending on how many players you got to keep (i.e. whether there's enough for you to keep the heart of your winning team) it could work but you'd need to get the balance absolutely spot on. And you'd need a solid crowd of people that you know you'll have a laugh with all turn up for the draft to still make it a fun hour or so.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah in the dynasty I'm in you get linear based on where you finished the previous season.

The first year I finished bottom as I drafted for the future, I was late to the draft and I was fucking seething that the AI picked the Seattle Seahawks as my first pick. I needed a defence but some teams left so there were some legit guys on the board.

I'm picking 10th this year as I finished 5th.

[Gray Fox]

A guy from last years was insisting upon linear, as if the luck of your position was a part of the game you should just accept. We ended up doing a system where the 1st pick from each round moves to the back of the line in the next.

The people at #8 and #9 still kind of end up getting shafted, just not as much. I went from #4 which is about the best position but ended up getting shafted by injuries. Lynch, McCoy, Graham, D. Jackson and Demaryius Thomas in my first 5 picks. 4 out injured for almost all season and Thomas was shite.

[Baz]

Saturday 3rd September (right?) works for me. What time?

[Dan]

I wouldn't be available until 6.30 at the earliest, probably closer to 7, as I work Saturdays.

[Gray Fox]

It's going to have to be later to accommodate the American(s) anyway, so you should be good.

[Pleb]

Midnight GST?

[Browning]

Midnight UK time is probably the absolute latest I could do (as a start time). I'd prefer it to be earlier than that to be fair, but I'd do that. If it's only one American then fuck making everyone else stay up half the night.

[Baz]

I agree with that. Like 8-10ish start would be better, but I'll do whatever.

[Gray Fox]

Sounds good to me. 9pm our time is 4pm Eastern Standard Time I believe so it's not unreasonable.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I basically live by American time so the later the better.

[Browning]

Half the teams in my main league missed the keeper deadline. :drool:

I had no idea who 2 of them would keep as they didn't have good options, but the other 2 were looking at Cam Newton (5th round, but it's a 2 QB league where QBs score huge, so he'll go in the first) and Landry in the 9th... I'm not disappointed to have them on the board.

[Gray Fox]

The work draft order has been drawn. While I wasn't there too. I've ended up picking 7th out of 10. However I think they're doing a standard order, not a snake order so dreams of taking a decent team there are going a little.

[Gray Fox]

Had it essentially confirmed they had no plans to do a snake draft, so in a last ditch attempt not to be fucked over I've put a public message up asking for a snake draft. Someone else has already agreed with it(pick #10 :D) so I'm hoping a few others jump on board.

[Pleb]

My Fleaflicker team in my league has had a draft so naturally I have autodrafted.

Starting Team

Andrew Luck - QB
Jamaal Charles - RB
Thomas Rawls - RB/WR/TE Flex
DeAndre Hopkins - WR
Jeremy Maclin - WR
Coby Fleener - TE
Steven Hauschka - K
New York Jets (:D) - DST

Sub

Ryan Tannehill (QB)
Charles Simms (RB)
Matt Jones (RB)
Ameer Abdullah (RB)
Jarvis Landry (WR)
Dorial Green-Beckham (WR)

Josh Doctson - IR (WR)

Well that escalated quickly :baz:

[Browning]

My main league draft results are in, and I'm feeling pretty good about my team. Keep in mind it's a 2QB league where QBs go insanely early, and it's a PPR league with massive starting rosters, but only 8 teams in the league:

QBs- Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers
RBs- Lamar Miller and Jamaal Charles
WRs- Antonio Brown, A.J. Green, Allen Robinson (Keeper)
TE- Olsen
Flex- Emmanuel Sanders, Ryan Matthews
DEF- Arizona
IDP- L.David, R.Jones, E.Ansah
Kickers- Hauchka, Crosby

Bench options:
Few Gambles in here...

Mariota
Alex Smith (I needed to draft at least one of my heroes from last season and after missing Decker and Fitzpatrick, Smith had to do).
Frank Gore
Kevin White
Torrey Smith
Ameer Abdullah
Travis Benjamin
Justin Forsett
Jared Cook

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Might as well cut Torrey Smith no. The Niners have no QB's and he's not great at getting open.

[Browning]

Possibly, but he is their only threat at all. I've got a good feeling about him in a PPR format. He may turn out shit though. I was buzzing about my RBs and QBs considering I went so WR heavy at the start. Would have liked slightly stronger back up WRs but who cares when you have those starters.

Part of me thinks I should have gone Larry Fitz over Sanders. Just I saw the "Injured- Doubtful" or whatever it was next to him and I panicked. That plus I feel like this is the year he regresses. Hopefully I won't live to regret that.

Just read Smith's write up on Yahoo.... sounds.... shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Whilst pre-season means fuck all, it is amazing to see the Niners QB's stat lines.

Gabbert: 3 games played; 12/22, 146 yards, 1 TD, 0 picks
Kaepernick: 1 game played, 2/6, 14 yards, 0 TD's, 0 picks
Ponder: 2 games played, 8/11, 97 yards, 1 TD, 1 pick.

I also read that on 31 passing plays, Torrey Smith has been targeted once. He dropped the ball.

It wont help Torrey Smith that all the other WR's on the Niners books are absolute garbage too.

[Browning]

My main league draft results are in, and I'm feeling pretty good about my team. Keep in mind it's a 2QB league where QBs go insanely early, and it's a PPR league with massive starting rosters, but only 8 teams in the league:

QBs- Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers
RBs- Lamar Miller and Jamaal Charles
WRs- Antonio Brown, A.J. Green, Allen Robinson (Keeper)
TE- Olsen
Flex- Emmanuel Sanders, Ryan Matthews
DEF- Arizona
IDP- L.David, R.Jones, E.Ansah
Kickers- Hauchka, Crosby

Bench options:
Few Gambles in here...

Mariota
Alex Smith (I needed to draft at least one of my heroes from last season and after missing Decker and Fitzpatrick, Smith had to do).
Frank Gore
Kevin White
Torrey Smith
Ameer Abdullah
Travis Benjamin
Justin Forsett
Jared Cook

2nd League just drafted, it has the exact same set up but i don't really care about it. My team:

QB- Cam Newton, Andrew Luck
WR- Antonio Brown, Sammy Watkins, Randall Cobb
RB- Ezekiel Elliott, Latavius Murray
TE- Travis Kelce
Flex- Gary Barnidge, Emmanuel Sanders
Kickers- Gostkowski, Tucker
Arizona
L.David, L.Collins and A.Donald

Bench: Matt Jones (Keeper), Matt Ryan, Teddy Bridgewater, John Brown, Tyler Lockett, Torrey Smith, Danny Woodhead, Ameer Abdullah, Marvin Jones

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You've got a thing for Torrey Smith and it's going to end in tears.

[Browning]

I think it's more my faith in Chip Kelly making shit players fantasy relevant by just running a million plays. I wouldn't bank on Smith, but I don't mind him as a back up for the first few weeks to see how it plays out.

[Ian]

My first draft I did on holiday via the app but my signal kept cutting out so a few of these I didn't do personally:

QB: Wilson, Fitzpatrick

WR: Beckham Jr., Landry, John Brown, Sanders, Corey Coleman, Bruce Ellington (our league has points for return yards)

RB: Charles, Abdullah, Woodhead, Bernard

TE: Gates

K: McManus

DEF: Green Bay

Unconvinced.

[Browning]

How many teams is that? I'm guessing 10?

Also, when is our draft?

[Baz]

Saturday innit?

[Ian]

Twelve team league.

My understanding is that our draft is this Saturday.

[Dan]

It's currently listed as being 2am Sunday morning on the page, which is rather later than I'd anticipated, especially as I might have to be at work for 9 on Sunday :D

[Ian]

Yeah I'm not staying up if that's the time.

[Gray Fox]

I just changed it to that date without bothering to set the time. I'll have it down to 8 or 9pm English time.

EDIT: Is it better now? I'm only being shown times in EDT which I'm assuming is Eastern Standard Time in the US. We're 5 hours ahead of that so I've set it to 3:30pm EDT, which should work out to 8:30pm over here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck 'em all.

Make it 3am UK time so it's just me and Mert drafting whilst he regales me of his tales about bedding so many women that he was banned from nightclubs.

It's going to be a glorious hour or two.

[Gray Fox]

#WetPussyBestPussy

[Ian]

Is that what he meant by talking talking about shooting consecutive hoops?

[Gray Fox]

Found the commissioner of the work league today and argued the case for a snake draft. He's not interested. Essentially boiled down to "I'm the commissioner, my league, my rules."

So the first picker in each round moves to the back of the next round. I'm currently 7th of 10, though there's doubt about #5 turning up so I may move up one. Either way, unless there's stupidity ahead of me, hopes of the top names are kind of down the toilet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You should have hit him with a chair and told him that you're starting your own league.

[Gray Fox]

He's also made it so every successful waiver costs £1. I'm not opposed to it, but I don't think it should stand for forced changes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The winner gets the money?

[Gray Fox]

Yeah it's being split further than just winner takes all this year. I think it's a response to the guy who won last year having won more games in the play-offs than he won in the regular season.

[Browning]

Not happy with the reports Charles might not be out there week one. I've already had to pick up Ware for my main league... but if I actually play him I have no idea who I'll end up dropping to pick up a DE. I currently don't have one because they're shit.

[Gray Fox]

We've finally done the work draft. It nearly never happened after loads of bitching about him refusing the snake order. Instead he did a slightly confusing 1st picker of the round, moves to the back of the next system. It was okay until the order was skipped a little later on and we got a little lost. There were supposed to be 10 of us but one didn't show. Was my first proper offline draft and it was pretty fun and I think I did alright.

1. David Johnson
2. Julio Jones
3. AJ Green
4. Lamar Miller
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Shady McCoy
7. Eric Decker
8. Danny Woodhead
9. Ryan Matthews
10. Kelvin Benjamin
11. Arian Foster
12. Brandin Cooks
13. Zach Miller
14. Jets
15. Dan Bailey

That's it, round by round. I got lost around R12 and should have taken a TE there but I thought it was still R12 and not R13. By the time it rolled around a few had gone and Miller was the best left. I've not yet checked bye weeks yet though.

[Dan]

Wait, you got Julio Jones in the second round & AJ Green in the third?! In a ten team draft? Brandin Cooks at 12 is utterly obscene as well.

Are you playing with people who know who players are, or was everyone else just randomly drafting people by name?

[Gray Fox]

It was 9 teams. Picker #5 didn't show or appear via skype(we had someone else doing that). 1st round went Brown, Gurley, Beckham, Bell and then Rawls(yes, Rawls) before me. After the first 4 picks I thought it was going to be quite tough. Rawls then went and I was a little confused.
I was faced with taking one of the top RBs left and miss out on Jones or vice versa. I was ready to take Hopkins or Green in the 2nd and was very shocked when Jones came back around. Hopkins went the pick after Jones, but Watkins, Evans and Cooper all went before it got back to me. I've ended up with 6 of the top 25 ranked players and I feel my WR corps is stacked. The only pick I really regret is Foster. Admittedly he's a boss when he plays, but it's how many games he'll get.

Like I said though I lost track there as we couldn't actually see the draft board. It was being done on an iPad. I should have taken Cooks there and moved my TE pick by a round. Still, I have plenty to trade with.
I'd say 4 of the 9 knew what they were doing but the others, while knowing players went in with a set strategy like "must take RB in R1, WR in R6 etc." which you can't really do in one of these drafts.

There were definitely some odd as fuck picks though. For example the Broncos defence went in I believe round 3.( I can't see the full draft board yet).

[Dan]

Yeah, that team is disgusting :D

[Browning]

Everything about that league sounds disgusting.

[Gray Fox]

Hopefully the admin puts up the draft in order so I can share it here. It was all kinds of bonkers. Trying to contain excitement in rounds 2-5 was difficult. My personal highlight was another guy remarking in about R7 how he thought it was daft people were taking kickers/defences already, then picked the Seattle defence :D

[Pleb]

I just realised that my fleaflicker league has only 4 people :moop: Might have to quit that sharpish.

At least I got the TTH league thank heavens.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Think I've finally decided on my keepers list for my dynasty league:

http://i.imgur.com/4ee5QwM.png

I can also select Kai Forbath, Steven Hauschka (fuck kickers), Jordan Cameron (the useless wanker), Luke Willson (another useless twat), Antonio Andrews (butter fingers cost me a couple of matches last season) and Branden Oliver (injured for the year).

Still debating whether or not I should drop the two defences (probably will) and De'Anthony Thomas (but I love the Black Mamba and we get return points, the Chiefs are likely going to cut him and he might end up on a team that uses him). I also might add Oliver even though he's injured for the year as I think he could be big in the future.

Edit: Fuck it, defences dropped as well as De'Anthony Thomas. Might even drop Arian Foster as there are a lot of big names on the free agent list to be drafted as well as all new rookies.

[Gray Fox]

Just a reminder to everyone that the draft is today. 8:30pm UK time. 3:30pm Eastern Standard Time.

I'd like to invite bruhnaldo but I can only see an option to add 2 teams at a time. And I'm not sure if the draft would start with an odd number. In my other league they top it up by having a League Average for the odd one out to play, but I'm not sure if you can do that with this site.

EDIT: Doesn't look like it will let me do that. We can only have an even number, unless anyone knows someone here who'd join last minute it's just the 8 of us.

[Browning]

I don't know anyone on here but a friend of mine used to play in and won one of the old TTH leagues. I'm sure he'd be up for it, but I'm also happy to just keep it purely to TTH people. Either way suits me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm not fussed either way. It would be nice to include Bruh though.

[Gray Fox]

I've upped it to 10 teams and PM'd him the code. If he can join in time and anyone can find someone to join it'll be good.

If we get the 10, I'll split us into 2 divisions. 6 teams making the play-offs to happen weeks 14, 15 and 16.

[Browning]

I'll ask then, should have an answer soon either way.

Yea he said he'll join. Figured he would as he enjoyed the old one. So guess that's our 10, which will be interesting as I've never played more than 8.

I've passed the details on. Just don't let him win again...

[Gray Fox]

If you'll let me draft a team like I got in the works league then I'll give it a good go.

[Gray Fox]

He's joined. We just need bruhnaldo to join up and we're good to go. I changed every other person to divison 2. Without setting the order myself I don't know any fairer way to do it. I'll randomize the fixtures maybe post draft, or I could go through and try to make sure everyone plays their division rivals twice plus random matches.

Unless anyone has any concerns I think we're set.

[Baz]

How does the drafting work on there? And have we decided an order?

Will we just post in this thread as it goes along or is everything we need to communicate on the fantasy site?

[Browning]

It's all on the site.

[Browning]

I don't see any purpose of two divisions. Just all play everyone once and some people twice and then play offs for the top 4 in week 15-16 surely makes the most sense?

[Gray Fox]

How does the drafting work on there? And have we decided an order?

Will we just post in this thread as it goes along or is everything we need to communicate on the fantasy site?

30 mins before(8pm) the draft, the site will randomly assign us an order(prevent the admin, in this case me, from fixing the order in their favour). You can make plans/alter expectations from there. It will go from 1 to 10, then each round the order will reverse, to keep everyone in with a fair chance. So if you end up 10th, you'll get 2 picks back to back each time.

[Pleb]

For the record I have no idea who to draft in this league :D

[Gray Fox]

Johnny Manziel is probably going to be QB1 this year so start with him.

[Dan]

Tebow>Manziel>Bradford>the pack :nodd:

[Gray Fox]

You leave Tim out of this. He's mine.

[Dan]

Guess I'll just take Sexy Rexy then.

[Gray Fox]

There's been no sign of bruhnaldo and the draft is due to start in 45 mins. Do I push it back?

[Baz]

No. :(

Looking at the teamsheet am I right in saying we draft 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 kicker, 1 defence, and then 1 more of either RB, WR or TE?

So only 1 QB? :uhoh:

EDIT: Also if I'm online I get final say over my pick right? It won't go off my pre-draft rankings (which although I spent a long time organising, I'd still like some control) will it? Sorry I've never done a live draft.

[Browning]

Hmm not sure what's best to do really. Can he take over the team after the draft?

[Gray Fox]

No. :(

Looking at the teamsheet am I right in saying we draft 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 kicker, 1 defence, and then 1 more of either RB, WR or TE?

So only 1 QB? :uhoh:

That's right.

[Browning]

No. :(

Looking at the teamsheet am I right in saying we draft 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 kicker, 1 defence, and then 1 more of either RB, WR or TE?

So only 1 QB? :uhoh:

You only start 1 QB per week, but you could draft more. There is a bench as well.

[Browning]

Has it been pushed back? I can't find a way to enter?

[Gray Fox]

The draft will not start until every team has an owner. So we have 3 options.

1. We delay until he gets on.
2. We cut it back down to 8 people.
3. Someone takes control of the final team and drafts for him.

[Browning]

Give him another half hour to an hour, and if not, I guess we cut it back down to 8.

I will say whether it's 8 or 10 I still think only 4 should make the play offs. Having 6/10 go through makes it a bit pointless in my opinion, but if that's the norm then.... fine.

Unless there's someone else out there who is willing to take on the 10th team.

[Baz]

I added this, didn't realise people had replied:
EDIT: Also if I'm online I get final say over my pick right? It won't go off my pre-draft rankings (which although I spent a long time organising, I'd still like some control) will it? Sorry I've never done a live draft.
I vote #2. Sorry bruh/browning's mate. :(

[Dan]

I'd say the first is fairest, although if the wait gets too long it may have to be option 2. The third choice seems pretty unfair on Bruh, even if it's possible to just auto-draft.

[Browning]

If you're online and in the draft room then yes, you make the picks "live" and get to see who everyone else picks when they pick them.

If you go offline and your pick comes up it'll pick whoever is top of your pre-draft rankings (from players who have not been picked, of course).

And yea, if it comes to it, guess you have to boot him out.

[Gray Fox]

The draft starts in an hour and 20 minutes(the earliest it will let me, sorry guys) if he doesn't show by then I'll cut it down to 8 and set play offs to 4 teams.

[Browning]

So 9:30? Opens at 9?

[Gray Fox]

You've got it.

4:30 Eastern Time for the Americans among us. If you click your team name on the site you get a countdown.

[Pleb]

Yeah wait till 830ish then cut it down to 8.

I wouldn’t mind a 9pm draft start to be fair.

[Dan]

Works fine for me; my pizza's just arrived :)

[Gray Fox]

Yeah wait till 830ish then cut it down to 8.

I wouldn’t mind a 9pm draft start to be fair.

I can't set it any earlier sorry. I'll wait til as close as I can and then set it back down to 8. The draft room should open at 9pm and the thing will start for 9:30.

[Ian]

I've done my VBD sheet and I feel it's over-valuing running backs so I think I've dicked up my baseline.

Hmm.

[Gray Fox]

I'm tempted to make a team for him and let it auto draft. There's an option for me to keep the team/roster but remove the owner and transfer ownership to someone else. He'd at least not get fucked over, the draft starts on time and he'd be able to join without us having to redraft.

[Baz]

9:30's cool with me. How long is it likely to last? And are we expecting all 8 to be online? That'd be pretty fun.

[Gray Fox]

Once you're on the clock you have 2 minutes. So max time it can go is 300 minutes, but the earlier and later rounds should be quicker.

[Dan]

Well it's 2mins per pick, with 10 teams & 15 rounds that's about 5 hours if we drag every pick out :D

Let's not do that, yeah? I have to be up at 7 tomorrow.

[Gray Fox]

I've got a dummy account ready for him that I'll give up when he gets online. Would you guys be alright if I put that in and let it auto-draft, or would you prefer me to cut it to 8 teams? He has about 10 minutes before we have to decide.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Make the team.

[Giggles]

If the auto draft wins it :drool:

[Dan]

I don't really mind either way.

[Ian]

Anybody taking two minutes per pick every time wants putting down.

Can we get Dav to agree to lend us the van in advance so the threat is a real one?

[Baz]

Well two of my mates have come up with a list of 24 recommendations for my picks. Once they've all gone I'm in uncharted territory and might spend two minutes panicking.

Realistically I imagine this will be from pick #4 onwards.

[Dan]

Do they have Tebow & Manziel on the list Baz?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hear that Run DMC (Darren McFadden) is going to have a career year, Baz.

[Gray Fox]

Ray Rice is on for his redemption year.

[Baz]

Genuinely don't get the jokes so I'll answer truthfully: none of them are down. Although when I read out the team names in our league, my mate laughed at the Tebow Time one. He also wouldn't let me add Reggie Bush.

Five of the list are defences. :cab:

[Dan]

If they have J. Jones on the list, they mean James. Wouldn't want you to mess that one up. Also, David Johnson is a tight end for the Steelers, in case you were wondering.

[Gray Fox]

We should be given our order in 1 minute. Best of luck lads.

[Baz]

If they have J. Jones on the list, they mean James. Wouldn't want you to mess that one up. Also, David Johnson is a tight end for the Steelers, in case you were wondering.:checkit:

Bruh would have been bu(h)mmed out if he'd have missed out because of me, eh.

[Dan]

Are we still 10?

[Dan]

We're in :drool: Fifth is pretty solid. I was kinda hoping for a mid-round position, if I'm honest. The long wait being at either end is awful.

[Gray Fox]

I'm 2nd pick. Mert (if there) is 1st.

[Baz]

http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/4xckoye6.png

Could you put teamnames alongside usernames in the OP please?

[Gray Fox]

http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/4xckoye6.png

Could you put teamnames alongside usernames in the OP please?

You'll pick 2nd in round 2 but will have a long wait after that as it will have to go all the way back round to 9th in the next. Might be worth remembering that when you deciding between picks.

[Gray Fox]

Wet Pussy Best Pussy - Mert
Tebow Time - Me
Bruhnaldo - Bruhnaldo
Welby - Ian
Gas masks - Mahow
Fall guys - Brownings mate
Plebroll - Pleb
Failures I think is Dan
TBD I think is Browning

[Dan]

Yeah, that's me.

[Pleb]

Now that's over how do I access my bench? :baz:

[Gray Fox]

Now that's over how do I access my bench? :baz:

Just click on your 'My Team' tab. Should let you pick from there.

Or download the app on your smartphone.

[Baz]

Made this to show my mate our teams. May as well post it here:

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2n9jn0w.jpg

My mate assures me my team is good, except for Diggs (panic pick cos he stopped responding) who he has never heard of. :baz:

EDIT: Is the iphone app any good? Might get it now.

[Pleb]

Odds on Plebroll AFC to win the whole thing?

[Browning]

If he hasn't heard of Diggs he probably isn't the guy to ask.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He can disappear a bit but I like Diggs. He's one of those who are better in actual football than fantasy football though.

His first four games were bonkers though. 87 yards, 129 yards, 108 yards plus 1 TD and 95 yards with 1 TD.

He could be a useful pick if Bradford is good.

[Gray Fox]

Diggs in the 14th round is by no means a bad pick.

[Baz]

If he hasn't heard of Diggs he probably isn't the guy to ask.He says it's a 50/50 for best team between Baz's Bumbandits and Team Tebow Time. :thbup: With Mert (Wet Pussy Best Pussy) coming in third.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like Dan's team a lot.

Probably because he stole so many right before I got to pick them.

[Pleb]

I may or may not have fucked myself over on week 5 with the bye week :D :face:

[Browning]

Other than my own, the team I like is Welby's.

[Dan]

I like Dan's team a lot.

Probably because he stole so many right before I got to pick them.

Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it - feeling good about the depth at WR & RB. The only problem is going to be picking the right players each week - I can see myself leaving loads of points on the bench most of the time.

There are quite a few solid teams there, I'd say - definitely not feeling all that confident in week one, even factoring in the name change.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I may or may not have fucked myself over on week 5 with the bye week :D :face:

I noticed my week 5 was fucked with about 4 rounds left. I had neglected to check Wilson's and Bortles's bye week.

I was set to draft someone else in the last round but had to go with a QB. Flacco against the Redskins at home (providing he's not injured) seemed like a good bet. Although the two auto draft teams (Mert and Bruh) beat me to the QB's I had ranked ahead of him in Carr and Winston.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Other than my own, the team I like is Welby's.

I'm not convinced by his WRs. They're too streaky bar the top two, they can all go missing in games.

[Browning]

Top 2 is all you need, to be fair.

I'm not convinced by my bench WRs either but then I do have Delanie Walker so.... :drool:

[Dan]

You're going to be the only person starting a TE at flex most weeks :cool:

[Gray Fox]

I think that was solid from almost everyone to be fair. Many times the pick I had queued up went right before me so we were on the same page.

[Baz]

From the pre-draft rankings, to the smooth draft webpage and then the awesome summary I've just been emailed, it's safe to say that Fantasy NFL is streets ahead of anything proper football has to offer. Good on the NFL. And thanks for letting me play. :thbup:

[Dan]

Have you guys checked the 'draft recap' tab in the 'league' section of the TTH league page? It gives you a draft grade, projected finish and an analysis of your teams strengths & weaknesses.

[Giggles]

From the pre-draft rankings, to the smooth draft webpage and then the awesome summary I've just been emailed, it's safe to say that Fantasy NFL is streets ahead of anything proper football has to offer. Good on the NFL. And thanks for letting me play. :thbup:

It's an absolutely massive thing. The NFL website near enough treats it as a separate sport these days.

[Browning]

Apparently my toughest match up is week 2 against Mert...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'A Gurley has no name' is fucking brilliant by the way.

Oh and I've been given an A with a projected finish of first.

The website knows :cool:

[Gray Fox]

A- with a projection of T3rd. I'll take it. A little unhappy in some places but overall I've done about okay I think.

[Baz]

If it's anything like fantasy premier league, nobody has a fucking clue really. :lol:

[Dan]

I've just been looking at their projections for week one & it does seem completely arbitrary. I'd love to know how they've decided that the Eagles will get a safety in the Browns game, for instance. 'They're playing Cleveland' doesn't count.

[Browning]

'A Gurley has no name' is fucking brilliant by the way.

Oh and I've been given an A with a projected finish of first.

The website knows :cool:

Strange, so has my mate.

Mine is projected to finish 8th, yet I'm projected to murder Dan in week 1....

Something feels very, very weird about their projections, but oh well.

If nothing else, at least I won best team name.

[Dan]

They have Eli throwing for 1TD, 1 pick & less than 300 yards against the Cowboys, so hopefully they're all fucking morons or else I'll very much regret taking him over Rivers.

[Dan]

Interesting stat - I drafted the least white people (2 - Eli Manning & Brandon McManus). Mahow & Pleb drafted the most, with 5 each (Decker, Bortles, Barnidge, Santos & Flacco; Gostkowski, Smith, Edelman, Cousins, Tucker).

Fuck you OPTA Joe.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So this is how I get outed as a racist? Fuck you fantasy football.

[Pleb]

I did not plan for Forrset to get his ass cut from the Ravens :moop:

May have to cut him now :sherlock:

[Browning]

You mean when you drafted him after he was cut?

[Gray Fox]

Yeah he was cut before we started. It was the first thing Mahow said in the draft chat. Hence my speculative pick up of Buck Allen.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's always why I picked Terrence West a few rounds later as he is our new starter.

Buck Allen hasn't impressed the coaching staff at all in training camp or pre-season.

[Browning]

Just noticed the projections have Anderson getting 14.7 points but McManus only 1 point. Meaning Anderson needs 147 yards or 87 yards and the Broncos only TD while they don't get even in range again. Either that or he starts missing PATs...

[Browning]

NFL.com seems so inferior to Yahoo in every way so far, other than the image. Their projections are bat shit crazy. How in the fuck can they be projecting 2 Week 1 TDs for Tim Hightower who won't even see the field? In fact Hightower is the 6th best player for week 1.... despite the fact Ingram is 3rd.

I also don't get why when I go to the players list and sort by Week 1 projections, it throws in random players who are projected 0 throughout the list. McFadden for example is top of the list, then there's a few players, and then Ellington who is out for the year. What the fuck?

Maybe I'll grow to love it when I get used to it, but not impressed so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah shit like that happens at times.

It's a lack of projection updates coupled with the system sorting by previous projection updates.

[Browning]

Oh right, the time they projected 3rd string RB Darren McFadden to be the best Week 1 player....

They seriously need to overhaul it completely. Yahoo's at least make sense.

[Baz]

Yeah I was thinking it's nice and shiny but from what I remember of Yahoo, it was easier to see the information you wanted.

[Gray Fox]

The Fox one we use for the work league is even better than it. Considering the attention the site itself devotes to Fantasy Football you'd think they'd have the page set right.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh right, the time they projected 3rd string RB Darren McFadden to be the best Week 1 player....

They seriously need to overhaul it completely. Yahoo's at least make sense.

Third, you're looking at just the available players.

And they probably made that horseshit prediction when he was still the first string running back.

[Pleb]

I did not plan for Forrset to get his ass cut from the Ravens :moop:

May have to cut him now :sherlock:
I've dropped him :eyemouth:

He's out in the open somewhere.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Had my second draft of the year just now, 8 teams on ESPN and I had the number 1 pick:

http://i.imgur.com/UcRb13z.png

I think I fucking smashed it.

Oh and first might be the worst, had to wait for so long after my double picks.

Oh and Tucker :cool:

[Gray Fox]

It's horrible isn't it? That's why some of my picks looked like they went a round or so early. If suddenly people started picking up QBs or WRs etc there was too long for me to wait before I could do anything. You kind of have to just guess who wont get back to you and pick them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yep, there's so much more strategy to it. This was 8 so not as bad as ours too.

[Dan]

Is it bad that I've already drawn up lists of streaming options for defences, tight ends & quarterbacks for the whole season in case I need it?

[Gray Fox]

The admin from the works league has finally put our draft results up.



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Ignore the pick numbers as they are wrong, I've put the pictures in the correct order. As you can see round 1 is almost a normal round then it goes way off the rails. Just going by who I picked through the mid rounds(proving who was left), there were some properly mental picks in there considering the options(fucking lol at the girl before me taking Cousins when Rodgers was still on the board).

I like looking at the board like that. It shows you where you went right and wrong. My only criticism of myself is taking a TE 1 or 2 rounds too late. But in my head at the time I couldn't believe Cooks was still there and had to nab him.

I'm looking at teams for potential trades. The team with Ertz looks weak and I reckon I could nab him for relatively cheap. I'm also considering trying to use Rodgers name to bring in someone.

[Dan]

I was going to go mad at some of the crazy picks, but there are just too many to pick from :D

[Browning]

I guess I'll post up my week 1 match up for my main league. It's against the guy I beat in last years Super Bowl, and beat 3 times overall last season (Fay's Fall Guys) but I have a bad feeling about week 1 since Charles pretty much went down....


QBs- Carson Palmer and Phillip Rivers Vs Andrew Luck and Eli Manning

Considering where these were picked I'm happy with my QBs over his for the season as I don't feel his are MUCH better than mine and I got mine much later in the draft. However, especially considering the match ups, he's probably got me beat here. I don't like Rivers going up against the Chiefs but given he put up virtually double the points Mariota did last season I can't justify rolling with him.

WRs- Antonio Brown, A.J. Green and Allen Robinson Vs Odell Beckham, TY Hilton and Jeremy Maclin

A no contest in my favor as it should be every week at the WR position. I don't think you could realistically assemble a better set of 3. The thing that scares me is his massive double TD potential from both Beckham and Hilton, but nevertheless I surely smash him at this position.

RBs- Lamar Miller and Ryan Matthews Vs David Johnson and Eddie Lacy

I felt better about this when I had Miller and Charles, but without him this is massively in his favor I feel. I still think Miller will be a top RB option this season, and Matthews has a lovely home game with the Browns, so I'm not too concerned about it. Hopefully if Johnson scores a TD it'll come from Palmer.

TE- Greg Olsen Vs Coby Fleener

The projections actually edge to him here, but I don't see it. Fleener is said to not be clicking well with Brees, where as Olsen is the top target for Cam Newton. Part of me does regret investing so high in Olsen rather than a better WR4, but hopefully he'll make it worthwhile.

Flex- Emmanuel Sanders and Spencer Ware Vs Latavious Murray and DeSean Jackson

I'm not convinced by Sanders this week at all. To the point where in me other league, he's on the bench despite me starting 5 WRs. He is however my safest play as I'm yet to get a look at Jared Cook, Torrey Smith, Travis Benjamin or Kevin White who I could play instead. I was very lucky to get Ware who has a lovely match up, but unfortunately not as nice as Murray's. Still I think this should be a fairly even contest.

The Rest:
Hauschka, Crosby, Arizona DST, Lavonte David, Reshad Jones and Ziggy Ansah Vs Walsh, Bryant, LA Rams DST, Bowman, Graham and Pierre-Paul

This should hopefully swing the match up back towards me as I drafted all of those players where as he picked all of his up post-draft. Not too happy that his DST faces the Niners while mine faces the Patrots... but I can always hope Arizona feast on Jimmy while Brady is out.

All in all projections have him to beat me by 4 points but I think it'll be pretty much bang even if and when Charles is ruled out and Ware gets a boost in projection. If Charles is named the starter I do of course have the option to play him.

[Gray Fox]

I was going to go mad at some of the crazy picks, but there are just too many to pick from :D

I couldn't believe it myself. The girl before me taking the Panthers D/ST when Julio Jones was still there was bonkers and kicked it all off. Before that I was thinking okay... maybe I can justify some of this, but then no. Really no.


I guess I'll post up my week 1 match up for my main league. It's against the guy I beat in last years Super Bowl, and beat 3 times overall last season (Fay's Fall Guys) but I have a bad feeling about week 1 since Charles pretty much went down....


QBs- Carson Palmer and Phillip Rivers Vs Andrew Luck and Eli Manning

Considering where these were picked I'm happy with my QBs over his for the season as I don't feel his are MUCH better than mine and I got mine much later in the draft. However, especially considering the match ups, he's probably got me beat here. I don't like Rivers going up against the Chiefs but given he put up virtually double the points Mariota did last season I can't justify rolling with him.

WRs- Antonio Brown, A.J. Green and Allen Robinson Vs Odell Beckham, TY Hilton and Jeremy Maclin

A no contest in my favor as it should be every week at the WR position. I don't think you could realistically assemble a better set of 3. The thing that scares me is his massive double TD potential from both Beckham and Hilton, but nevertheless I surely smash him at this position.

RBs- Lamar Miller and Ryan Matthews Vs David Johnson and Eddie Lacy

I felt better about this when I had Miller and Charles, but without him this is massively in his favor I feel. I still think Miller will be a top RB option this season, and Matthews has a lovely home game with the Browns, so I'm not too concerned about it. Hopefully if Johnson scores a TD it'll come from Palmer.

TE- Greg Olsen Vs Coby Fleener

The projections actually edge to him here, but I don't see it. Fleener is said to not be clicking well with Brees, where as Olsen is the top target for Cam Newton. Part of me does regret investing so high in Olsen rather than a better WR4, but hopefully he'll make it worthwhile.

Flex- Emmanuel Sanders and Spencer Ware Vs Latavious Murray and DeSean Jackson

I'm not convinced by Sanders this week at all. To the point where in me other league, he's on the bench despite me starting 5 WRs. He is however my safest play as I'm yet to get a look at Jared Cook, Torrey Smith, Travis Benjamin or Kevin White who I could play instead. I was very lucky to get Ware who has a lovely match up, but unfortunately not as nice as Murray's. Still I think this should be a fairly even contest.

The Rest:
Hauschka, Crosby, Arizona DST, Lavonte David, Reshad Jones and Ziggy Ansah Vs Walsh, Bryant, LA Rams DST, Bowman, Graham and Pierre-Paul

This should hopefully swing the match up back towards me as I drafted all of those players where as he picked all of his up post-draft. Not too happy that his DST faces the Niners while mine faces the Patrots... but I can always hope Arizona feast on Jimmy while Brady is out.

All in all projections have him to beat me by 4 points but I think it'll be pretty much bang even if and when Charles is ruled out and Ware gets a boost in projection. If Charles is named the starter I do of course have the option to play him.

I really like Ware in week 1. West isn't the most fit and neither is Charles. This might be their only week running an actual workhorse RB and they only have Maclin or Kelce to throw at anyway. He could go big. Oh yeah and he's up against the Chargers.

Ware is still on the wire in my work league and I'd love to bring him in, but I kind of have 6 RBs already. :D

I'd love to go 3 for 1 on someone like Gurley as I have the depth now, then pick up a Ware to make up the missing numbers. There's still a fair bit left on the wire in our league for me to be confident in doing it.

[Browning]

Who are the 6 you have? Surely one of them is worse than Ware. Experts are suggesting drafting Ware in around round 6 in 10 team leagues right now, so I wouldn't leave him sitting on the wire.

Edit- Oh just realised it's the league up there... don't worry.

Yea... those are some good options, so it's a tough one. Someone in that league needs to take him though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Has that Charlotte woman ever watched an NFL match?

[Gray Fox]

She's occasionally watched. Her problem was that she was being helped by last years winner. Who must himself just have been lucky as fuck with waiver claims. Because he was pick #2 and was going to take Zeke Elliott. I said he's not worthy of being picked that high and to take Antonio Brown if he was still there. He asked me who that was. I died a little inside.

[Browning]

Will Tye is a quality pick in the 4th. :D She's had a worse draft than Pleb.

[Dan]

The guy who won last year doesn't even know who Antonio Brown is?! What were you doing last year to not win? :D

[Pleb]

Will Tye is a quality pick in the 4th. :D She's had a worse draft than Pleb.
I'm relieved to hear that :cool:

I still had no fucking clue what I was doing though. Taking Justin Tucker just to piss off Mahow might of been my saving grace. Is Charles starting week 1 or is he a bust?

[Browning]

Doesn't look like it, but if he doesn't at least you have Ware. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

The guy who won last year doesn't even know who Antonio Brown is?! What were you doing last year to not win? :D

He was at the front of the waiver queue and managed to get Cousins and he was also playing David Johnson and Doug Baldwin.

He was pretty much unstoppable.

[Dan]

The Tucker pick was superb :drool:

I'd start Ware this week, and wait & see how things play out with Charles. He's likely to get some action, although it doesn't sound like he'll be playing a whole lot. I'm in a similar spot with Rawls/Michael, actually.

EDIT: Okay, that's a pretty solid trio to have had at the end of last season :D

[Browning]

All 3 of those players are shit. You'd have murdered him with Will Tye, James Starks and Ryan Tannehill.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm still seething about Tucker.

[Pleb]

That trade seethe :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cairo Santos is predicted to get more points though and you do love a Chief.

[Pleb]

You can have Gonk :nod:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

First trade of the year.

Bortles for Mariota.

Had to pull the trigger, needed a QB for week 5.

[Pleb]

That's bold/brave.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Santos for Tucker now?

[Pleb]

Fuck off :D

[Browning]

I'll give you Bailey for Tucker. I don't really want him but just to rub it in :D