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    Oh and Arrington has taken a paycut to remain at the Ravens.

    The exact terms of the pay cut and amount of cap room it created were not announced. Arrington was reportedly due a $2.1 million base salary this year, with a $2.77 million cap hit.

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    The Bears have re-signed Tracy Porter, I thought he retired long ago and I'm stunned to find that he's still in the league and only 29. The guy is a year older than me and yet the Saints Superbowl win seems so fucking long ago.

    Jaguars have signed Tashaun Gipson for decent money and not a mountain but speaking of a mountain of cash, the Saints have paid Coby Fleener who has hands of stone $36m over 5 years.

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    Trevathan gone now. I wonder if they think there's somebody ready to step up in that position or if that's another one on the shopping list.

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    Reece is surely for the bullet if this falls on it's arse.

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    Blah the Steelers got a bargain in Ladarius Green for only $20m over 5 years.

    We could have gotten him instead of Watson

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    Given we had the move up to #8 this year, I would've thought it better to maybe bring in a QB round 1 and have a shoot out between him and Big Bad Sam Brad for the number 1 spot. But then I realized, moving to 8 doesn't actually let us do that as QBs are probably going @ 2 and 7 anyway.
    Now I'm pretty sure we'll either be taking a DE or a CB, maybe Ronnie Stanley at OT if what we want isn't there. I'm not 100% sure which way I'd like to see us go yet. But I'm relatively happy with out dealings so far, even if our 2 QBs were a little pricey.

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    Jimmy Smith has now restructured his contract too, giving us an extra $4.5m.

    Around $15m or so free now

    Apparently we're interested in Mike Wallace () but only if the price is right so hopefully his agent asks for too much.

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    C.J Anderson is looking at a Dolphins move, while Vernon Davis is possibly going to the Redskins.

    Few deals that have happened:

    Sean Smith to a 4 year deal with the Raiders. $40m/$20 guaranteed.
    Rishard Matthews to the Titans.
    Brady extends for 2 years. $41m overall, with a $28m signing bonus and base salary of $1m per year.
    Forte gets 3 year deal with the Jets. $8m guaranteed, possible $14m for grabs.
    Jeremy Lane signs with Seahawks. $23m/$11m guaranteed.
    Vincent Rey to sign with the Bengals.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Jets have opened up more talks, but he's apparently wanting way more than will offer right now. Perhaps the next bit is having something to do with that.
    Lastly, talks are hotting up for Kaepernick. Teams interested are the Browns, Jets and Broncos. 49ers want a 2nd round pick this year. This would mean they'd prefer to go with the 2 formers as Broncos are back of the line.

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    If a team gives the Niners a second round pick for Kaepernick then the league has gone full retard.

    I'd much rather draft someone with a second rounder (I wouldn't care who it is) and risk someone new under centre than Colin fucking Kaepernick.

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    Davis to the redskins makes very little sense as Jordan Reed is the best TE in the league not named Gronk. He will never play.

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    I'd expect the Browns or the Broncos might give up their 2nd round pick. I doubt the Jets would. Browns could get Kaep and a quality OT out of it.

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    The Browns could but I wouldn't if I was them.

    Going from Manziel and all his problems to the inaccurate diva?

    [gyfcat]ImpeccableImpeccableAnnashummingbird[/gyfcat]

    That is a QB no one needs.

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    I've never seen that before. I knew he was a bit average but lol at that.

    I think they'll end up taking Goff or Wentz at the draft personally. Either way the Broncos are now in a bit of a hole.

    Eagles sign LB Nigel Bradham.

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    It was one of the last things he ever did at the Niners.

    Near enough any other QB in the league sees it, slips it to Torrey Smith and it's a 99 yard TD.

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    Falcons have signed Ben Jones who is known for his appearances on Hard Knocks last year:



    What did the quaterback say?
    He was a freshman...

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    Falcons sign Mohamed Sanu. 5 years $33m, $14m guaranteed.

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    Andy Benoit did a good bit about Kaepernick (and Griffin) on MMQB:
    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/02/c...3-trade-future

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    That's a brilliant article.

    I need to read more from MMQB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    That's a brilliant article.

    I need to read more from MMQB.
    If you avoid King the rest of it is about the best NFL site on the internet.

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    Will give that a read, after the Liverpool game.

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    I don't mind King but he's a proper bore on some subjects and he's full of his own importance. I read the MMQB article of a Monday very selectively. Benoit is good.

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    So with Ben Watson, Crocket Gillmore (who had surgeries but should be back for week 1), Maxx Williams, Dennis Pitta (if he still lives), Nick Boyle (idiot who is suspended for 6 games), Chase Ford (who we gave a tender offer) plus two other bodies all at tight end we've also decided to tell one of our WR's to make the move to TE.

    He's a giant (6 foot 6 and 250 pounds) and is probably better suited to TE but it's starting to feel a little too much, well unless the league allows us to roll with a 4 TE set.

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    C.J Anderson has been given a 4 year offer of $18m by Miami. Broncos have 5 days to match this or lose him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    C.J Anderson has been given a 4 year offer of $18m by Miami. Broncos have 5 days to match this or lose him.
    For nothing too.

    I really don't know why they didn't at least give him a fourth round tender, they probably could have gotten away with giving him a third round tender and still have teams sniffing around him.

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    I don't understand all these tenders... if a players contract is up, surely you're entitled to fuck all.

    What would happen if you put a 3rd round tender on a guy (for example) and then no one signed him, but you still didn't sign him.... is there a period where he can then fuck off for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    I don't understand all these tenders... if a players contract is up, surely you're entitled to fuck all.

    What would happen if you put a 3rd round tender on a guy (for example) and then no one signed him, but you still didn't sign him.... is there a period where he can then fuck off for free?
    When you put a tender on someone you give them the minimum that the league have stipulated the tender is worth, this season a second round tender is worth $2.5m for a year. If no team makes an offer on the player he signs that minimum contract, if another team makes an offer the player's current club can either match it or choose to let him go and they get the pick that the tender was worth.

    A transition tag (which is what Olivier Vernon had) is a bit different. The team has the chance to match the contract but gets nothing if they let him go, the Dolphins took it off him as they realised they wouldn't be able to match an offer so they could get a compensatory pick for him.

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    What if they don't want to play for $2.5m? Do the players get a say in it? If not it seems a bit unfair. Couldn't a team just do that year on year, or is there a limit on it?

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    They don't have a say in it and there's a limit to it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_free_agent

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    7/11 is close to get his (relative) pay day.

    Great underdog story, he was paid just shy of $500k last year.

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    Manziel

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    Some other chump will give him a shot. At least tebow could run.

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    Jerry will.

    I wonder when teams will realise that mobile QBs that can't pass just don't work in the NFL.

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    Denver have gone from Peyton Manning to Mark Sanchez in the space of a week. Got to love the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Denver have gone from Peyton Manning to Mark Sanchez in the space of a week. Got to love the NFL.
    TBH that's a very low risk move. He could play and gives you as good a chance as winning as Peyton did last year with his interceptions. It's not a long term answer, but it's pretty shrewd.

    With the defence they have (even if it's only 70-80% as good next year) they don't need an elite QB to compete.

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    I'd rather Mark Sanchez under centre than Colin Kaepernick tbf.

    Conditional 7th round pick too.

    I'd imagine that they'll go for Fitzpatrick if the Jets don't re-sign him and hope to draft someone who will learn from Mark Sanchez's mistakes.

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    Maybe I'm just biased from all the interceptions I've seen him throw for us.

    I'd be going for Fitzpatrick personally, but he appears to want to be paid. At least more than the Jets are willing to in any case.

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    I'd be interested to see what happens should Kaep not leave the 49ers.

    The Broncos only option would be to take RG3/Fitz. Jets are talking to both right now. Unless they get desperate enough to consider Manziel.

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    Apparently rg3 is heading to New York to met the jets.

    Potentially just a scare tactic for Fitzpatrick.

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    NFL.com running with the headline "Manziel era over in Cleveland".... fuck right off.

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    Maybe they mean his partying in the clubs of Cleveland, because he did fuck all on the field.

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    I suspect there's still work being done but I'll chuck the Sanchize a if only for not being Kaepernick.

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    Steelers are set to be without Martavis Bryant for the whole of next season.

    He's looking at a full season suspension for failing the substance and abuse programme. Must have failed a test at the end of the season.

    EDIT: Link

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ong-suspension

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    Considering our secondary, no matter how shit, always locks down Antonio Brown that's two guaranteed wins already for us.

    Superbowl bound.

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    I had my eyes on him being my 3rd or 4th choice WR in next years fantasy leagues.

    Still what a tit. Shame they still have so many weapons on the team.

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    The Bears have done the best piece of business thus far by signing Jerrell Freeman on a 3 year contract for $12m with only $6m guaranteed.

    He's 30 but he's one of the best coverage inside linebackers in the game and he improved so much against the run last year.

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    Casey Hayward has signed for the Chargers. Blow to lose him.

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    The Dolphins have offered to make CJ Anderson the 3rd highest paid RB in the league....

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...al-with-ravens

    We've signed Eric Weddle

    I was hoping we'd pick him up after the Chargers decided they no longer wanted him.

    Four years, $26m with $13m guaranteed.

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    BJ Raji has retired. Another hole to fill on the defense.

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    Interesting-ish point made in MMQB that had a California team wanted to match Malik Jackson's take-home they'd have had to spend an extra $7m because of states and their different taxes.

    Genuinely not something I'd considered during 'why didn't X try to sign y' arguments.

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