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    Oh and this was brilliant.

    Edit: TLC match was a banger, how was it not at Mania?
    Last edited by Sir Andy Mahowry; 26-04-2025 at 04:59 PM.

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    Call back to Diesel beating up Shawn with Mad Dog Vachon’s fake leg.

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    Didn't catch him...

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    All stood waiting like a pack of nerds for 10 seconds then parted like the Red Sea. Stupid spots get stupid results.

    This is what happens when you let a load of dumb indie geeks cut loose. They tried to catch with their arms and not their bodies because they don't know the first thing about actually working.

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    Brock Lesnar, man.

    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Quality to see Fraxion called up and to see Aleister Black return who is a real favourite of mine.

    Cena/Orton was great too but having Chelsea Green drop her title to Zelina fucking Vega is mental.
    Yeah this seems mental to me too. Do you think they are going to move her up to challenge for the big title? Surely?

    But even so, the choice of who she has dropped it to seems really odd.

    I mean I've only been watching it since January so maybe there's a lot of history I'm unaware of but this Zelina Vega, I feel like I've hardly seen her/know very little about her. It definitely feels like there are more worthy/deserving people on the roster to take the title!

    Drew now dicking about for the US Title seems really weird to me too. I love Fatu, don't get me wrong. He's by absolute favourite and I do think him and Drew will be good. It helps elevate him too. But it just seems a bit, I don't know, "beneath" Drew. Who I think is the absolute man and one of my favourites out of the top-tier guys.

    But then I suppose the main title he could/would normally be in contention for is currently Cena's and I don't imagine Drew is one of the guys they have in mind for a rivalry with him between now and him calling it a day. So they probably need something for the likes of Drew, Priest et al to spin their wheels with in the meantime.

    Also agree that the TLC match should have been on Wrestlemania. If would have been top three in terms of actual matches on there probably. Instead we got The War Raiders in their budget "Clash of Clans" get-up.

    I'm glad to see Fraxiom as well. They will fit great into that tag team division. I'm glad they have moved up together too, because I swear they have sort of been hinting on NXT that they were going to fall out and split up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Brock Lesnar, man.

    Size of them traps lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Yeah this seems mental to me too. Do you think they are going to move her up to challenge for the big title? Surely?

    But even so, the choice of who she has dropped it to seems really odd.

    I mean I've only been watching it since January so maybe there's a lot of history I'm unaware of but this Zelina Vega, I feel like I've hardly seen her/know very little about her. It definitely feels like there are more worthy/deserving people on the roster to take the title!

    Drew now dicking about for the US Title seems really weird to me too. I love Fatu, don't get me wrong. He's by absolute favourite and I do think him and Drew will be good. It helps elevate him too. But it just seems a bit, I don't know, "beneath" Drew. Who I think is the absolute man and one of my favourites out of the top-tier guys.

    But then I suppose the main title he could/would normally be in contention for is currently Cena's and I don't imagine Drew is one of the guys they have in mind for a rivalry with him between now and him calling it a day. So they probably need something for the likes of Drew, Priest et al to spin their wheels with in the meantime.

    Also agree that the TLC match should have been on Wrestlemania. If would have been top three in terms of actual matches on there probably. Instead we got The War Raiders in their budget "Clash of Clans" get-up.

    I'm glad to see Fraxiom as well. They will fit great into that tag team division. I'm glad they have moved up together too, because I swear they have sort of been hinting on NXT that they were going to fall out and split up.
    The worst part about Mcintyre is that it seems like this year long Priest feud is STILL not going to be over. I assume they are going with Fatal Four Way for the US - the only excuse is that there's only a 3 week turnaround between 'mania and Backlash.

    Speaking of Backlash, I hope Cena slaps the referee to retain the title ala Orton back in '09

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    The worst part about Mcintyre is that it seems like this year long Priest feud is STILL not going to be over. I assume they are going with Fatal Four Way for the US - the only excuse is that there's only a 3 week turnaround between 'mania and Backlash.

    Speaking of Backlash, I hope Cena slaps the referee to retain the title ala Orton back in '09
    Yeah, that did occur to me too. He spent the entire run up to Wrestlemania beating the shit out of Priest (other than that one time Damian got one over on him, resulting temporary eye patch!) and then did him over quite comprehensively at the main event too.

    So I really thought that was it. In fact I thought they might have given Priest a bit of time off just to sell it. So it was a bit of an eye roll moment where he came charging out on Smackdown and just picked up where they left off. The last month and a half might as well have not happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Yeah this seems mental to me too. Do you think they are going to move her up to challenge for the big title? Surely?

    But even so, the choice of who she has dropped it to seems really odd.

    I mean I've only been watching it since January so maybe there's a lot of history I'm unaware of but this Zelina Vega, I feel like I've hardly seen her/know very little about her. It definitely feels like there are more worthy/deserving people on the roster to take the title!

    Drew now dicking about for the US Title seems really weird to me too. I love Fatu, don't get me wrong. He's by absolute favourite and I do think him and Drew will be good. It helps elevate him too. But it just seems a bit, I don't know, "beneath" Drew. Who I think is the absolute man and one of my favourites out of the top-tier guys.

    But then I suppose the main title he could/would normally be in contention for is currently Cena's and I don't imagine Drew is one of the guys they have in mind for a rivalry with him between now and him calling it a day. So they probably need something for the likes of Drew, Priest et al to spin their wheels with in the meantime.

    Also agree that the TLC match should have been on Wrestlemania. If would have been top three in terms of actual matches on there probably. Instead we got The War Raiders in their budget "Clash of Clans" get-up.

    I'm glad to see Fraxiom as well. They will fit great into that tag team division. I'm glad they have moved up together too, because I swear they have sort of been hinting on NXT that they were going to fall out and split up.
    It seems Chelsea Green might be taking a break which is a shame because her gimmick with the title was brilliant.

    Zelina Vega was a decent manager for Andrade in NXT ages ago but they've tried to make her a thing on the main roster but it doesn't work. She's so small but also not particularly fast or skilful when wrestling so it just comes across as meh.

    Fraxiom have always been a "we're so different but work well together" type of team in terms of their personalities (Frazer is more of a hothead whilst Axiom is fairly calm and collected) and they have bad communication, plus they were also trying for singles gold now and then but that's more been something they could lean in before matches in NXT. "HOW WILL THEY COPE, THEY'RE DIVIDED" before coming up with the goods to retain. They seemed to have dropped in the last month or so before they dropped the titles to Hank and Tank so I guess they were gearing them up for the main roster.

    Really fun team though and they had so many great matches in NXT.

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    Check who Zelina Vegas husband is and wonder why she might have just won the title. Alestair Brother strikes again.

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    Apparently Giulia and Roxanne are now officially on RAW.

    But they might be coming up as a tag team weirdly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Check who Zelina Vegas husband is and wonder why she might have just won the title. Alestair Brother strikes again.
    I did think this.

    I also dont get Alestair Black. Never did in his first run. Never did in his AEW run.

    We get enough shit spooky bollocks with the Wyatt Sicks(who are apparently due back very soon, with Alexa Bliss)

    +1 for me for Cena getting himself immediately DQ'd in St Louis. Whether with the referee slap call back, or by hitting him in the dick, which seems to be a popular finish in WWE right now.

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    Black could be a proper badass heel if he was presented properly but seemingly he's determined to be this spooky cunt and I have no time for that.

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    Imagine my shock when Seth Rollins first promo as a heel is a million times better than any of the whiny shit he's done for the past 5+ years.

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    Rollins is untouchable, wash your mouth out. Imagine if his knee never went

    Jey Uso v Logan Paul. One for the ages

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    Gunther against McAfee better end in the latter being written off tv

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    If they want Gunther wrestling commentators, get Wade Barrett back in his cape instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Rollins is untouchable, wash your mouth out. Imagine if his knee never went
    His first problem was trying to continue working as if his knee never went. So it was just the same but in slower motion. Hopefully going heel forces him to work smarter (and therefore better).

    And he's an awful babyface in the promos. His whiny tone is classic heel stuff. The Authority run was his best by a million miles.

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    He’s never really been a ‘face’ for a long time. He’s always been in that inbetween stage for me. It wasn’t that long ago he was stabbing Cody’s very bruised pecs with kendo sticks

    I find it baffling that the world championship on RAW is like a mid card title. It was like that even when Gunther was champ. The top stars on RAW don’t seem to ever care or mention this title

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    He’s never really been a ‘face’ for a long time. He’s always been in that inbetween stage for me. It wasn’t that long ago he was stabbing Cody’s very bruised pecs with kendo sticks

    I find it baffling that the world championship on RAW is like a mid card title. It was like that even when Gunther was champ. The top stars on RAW don’t seem to ever care or mention this title
    This is definitely something that has struck me as weird since I started watching it again.

    I reckon RAW has the more interesting lineup of talent too, but the main title is almost an afterthought. Nothing about Seth Rollin's "plan" seems to imply he has any interesting in bothering with it, for example.

    I assume, in terms of the story and whatnot, the title on RAW and the title on Smackdown or not supposed to be equal, right? The Smackdown one that Cena now holds is the one, right? But I assume the RAW title is meant to be a relatively big deal still?

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    They had Reigns unify the Raw and Smackdown belts(they were literally red and blue) to create the universal title as part of his mega long title run.

    Then after a while they figured it wasn't a great idea to only have one champion over both shows, especially given that he didn't always show up anyway.

    So they made the new belt for Raw and promoted it as the workhorse championship. There would be no part timers holding it and it would be defended much more regularly.
    Rollins got it first and was going to do the usual Triple H booking thing of holding it until Wrestlemania. But early in 2024 he cooked his knee again(legit) but they weirdly didn't have him vacate it. Instead he was kept on TV trying to cheerlead Cody Rhodes, but kept away from any action to give the knee chance to heal by Mania.

    At Mania they tried a match with Drew but his knee was still fucked so Drew won quickly.

    You can tell how bad it was because when he tried to run the SHIELD interference for Cody in the main event, he could barely stand. So bad was it that the WWE highlights on that match have his run in completely cut out.

    But yes, the face of the company belt is the Smackdown one. You only have to look at who challenges for which belt.

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    The two belts thing (not just World, but tag team, IC/US etc) has always been to satisfy the TV networks. And it's rarely ever worked, due to either one always being perceived as the better title over the other (in the case of World), or just outright apathy because it results in every man and his dog either having a title or being a title contender.

    There's been the odd run with the WHC over the years that legitimised it, but then they put it on some goof like Jack Swagger or Jey Uso and ruin it again.

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    They do all this draft and separate rosters and blah blah but people just pop up on any of the shows on a whim in a continuous basis, they could easily halve the amount of titles in a second with no great difference.

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