Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
Both parents working full daytime jobs in a protestant northern European society (i.e. no large extended families locally as a norm) is basically impossible to reconcile with the successful upbringing of children unless employers concede efficiency points, which they do not, ever. Everyone I know with kids is completely reliant on the grandparents to cover childcare, even if this means the grandparents driving hundreds of miles on the regular.

The knock on effects of that are crippling costs, stress, shit parenting, divorce, and so on.
How do the Nordics do things? Don't they have good childcare provision?

What does Germany do?

I suspect this is much more of an Anglo problem because we don't fucking design any aspect of society to make life easier or better for people.