You have to wonder if you would have less homeless if you were not giving so many of them free accommodation. Not saying you should, but, you know.
You have to wonder if you would have less homeless if you were not giving so many of them free accommodation. Not saying you should, but, you know.
Alternatively you could have fewer homeless people by providing them with permanent accommodation.
Yeah, I'm not sure there's an easy way to get around not having enough homes. You either sleep 5 to a room or you deal with mass homelessness.
Even if those homes were available, you'd have to make assurances the place wouldn't be trashed within the first week.
Ban landlords lol it literally is that easy.
Ok, so you've banned landlords. Now what?
Ban lords. And land. Just in case they try to team up and fill the gap.
Apparently this:Originally Posted by Spikey M
The government should give a free house to every citizen.
There are houses for everyone. People don't need to rent. 100% mortgages. Reasonable house pricing. Allowed to marry 9 year olds.
"Build more homes" is the #1 solution to so many issues, but NIMBYdism is way too strong and nothing governments like more than more regulation.
My man Caplan at it again.
Not really, was just an equally facile reply to what you said, albeit less cruel perhaps.
Landlords rent the properties they own out, right? They're not just collecting them and letting them sit there empty? So, you ban all landlords, again... then what? Evict the people renting from them? Or do they just stay rent free now? What has this done to address homelessness?
Unironically this.
Correct and correct. Building is the only answer. Alas, this is another area in which we are terrible.
Fair enough
I mean, we all know that government is very good at building public infrastructure at very low costs in a timely manner. What could go wrong?
The issue is, we already house millions of people for free (or heavily subsidised) via the benefit system. At the moment, we do so by pumping housing benefit and Universal Credit into private landlord bank accounts. Atleast if you have social housing, the money moves from the government to the government.Fair enough
I mean, we all know that government is very good at building public infrastructure at very low costs in a timely manner. What could go wrong?
Most do, some don't. Some are just part of 'portfolios'. Also see Air BNB and other holiday lets.
No, they get the chance to purchase, if not then fuck off and buy a different house.
There isn't a magic wand you can wave to make something bad disappear, it takes lots of positive social steps. Banning people from using something as critical as living accommodation as an INVESTMENT is one of those things.
Indeed. Should probably stop doing that.
Sure, but then we arrive back on the subject of wage stagnation and the lack of full-time jobs.
We're just a nation of middle managers, office lackeys and SERVICE companies. Absolutely fucking doomed.
Isn't there an absolutely insane amount of housing (in London mostly) sat empty?
260,000, which doesn't touch the sides to be honest.
Are you dealing with all the court cases?
It doesn't, but still, lol at how tragically and unsurprisingly useless that is.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c976lzzz1pno
Aren't there quite a lot of properties (in London especially) that are just left sitting empty because they're just a store of wealth for rich foreigners?
Edit: I see we covered that.
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Yes. I'll throw all the landlords in jail for being cunts.
Maogic
But there's no room in jail, either. Unless you want to release a load to make room for the landlords ala Two Beer Korma.
Actually, you can let the nonces out after you've legalised marrying 9 year olds. Problem solved. Vote Tragic 2029.
We should absolutely be banning AirBnB though. Obviously I think we should ban private landlordism too but in more realistic terms of what a government might actually do, AirBnB should be banned to fuck.
Private landlords taking housing that could be used by long term residents and turning it into short term rentals because they can get more money out of it from two weekends a month than they can actually housing people? Fuck that.
It also makes life miserable for neighbours in the same building/on the same street. Imagine you're a full time resident there and you have to deal with people partying to all hours every weekend. Or sex workers renting it out and using it while your kids are there. Fuck that.
Gu-lag! Gu-lag! Gu-lag!
Build one big massive jail, let everyone invest in it and throw the fucking landlords in for life. Bigger your investment, the more awful the conditions are for your cell occupier.
The fact that 99.99% of AirBnB's don't provide breakfast should see it banned.
They make you cook them breakfast, I heard.
Most long-term homeless people are spastics who couldn't cope with having their own house.
They will get a government appointed butler.
I would repackage that as "Most long-term homeless people wouldn't cope with having their own house and would need to be in some kind of supported housing"
But yes, you're right, and whenever we take someone from a homelessness charity it usually ends in disaster.
Why can't they cope?
Where do you think abused children go? Children abandoned? Children in care?
The criminals, the heroin addicts, the mass murderers (such as our boy Axel). We're trying to fix the stable door long after the horse has bolted. Better keep cutting social services and things that make life enjoyable like libraries and leisure centers though!
We had a big noise from Veterans Aid come into work a few years ago, and he said that far from the idea that people leave the military 'institutionalised' and can't cope, the ones who end up homeless tend to be the people who do three to five years and then leave without any real skills or money behind them because they were basically idiots to begin with.
If only they had a library and a leisure center to go to.
Axel lived with his parents. His room was a tip.
On a related note, what the fuck is this story all about? Mind-boggling stuff.
Tbf, I often brandish a knife when playfighting with my kids.
Judge Rinder doing a dramatic reading on BBC Holocaust Memorial Day is like a Chris Morris bit.
Lengthy 'Never Again' bit now about how Muslims were persecuted and bombed during the lengthy siege of... Mostar.
I particularly like that he seemed to go with some sort of Joe Pesci "what can I say, I'm a good shot" defence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9l08w8qgpo
Very sad that she's lost her son and all but I'm pretty sure those restrictions already exist.
I get that she's grieving, but the idea that he'd follow the rules about the number of passengers allowed to drive while pissed and coked up is genuinely funny.
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