You don't think there's a massive correlation between his teams not playing well and him also not playing well? He is able to perform because they spend their entire time terrified of the rest of the team.Originally Posted by Luke Emia
Giving him 4 league titles when he started a grand total of 20 games in 2 of those is kind as well.
If Jesus could use this as a spring board to not be absolutely dogshit for the second half of the season that would be amazing.
Oh right then we may as well forget then that he was undeniably their best player last season and was probably the biggest reason his team won the league?
You can't, really?
Not that I disagree about Saka. City should have bought him years ago.
My main argument would be that he wasn't and every game where City would have dropped points if it wasn't for a players intervention it was Gvardiol and Rodri scoring the crucial goals and Gundogan the year previous.
He was in a team where they're having to concentrate on preventing multiple players before him and he could therefore be allowed to participate but when the games tough hes anonymous.
I mean in the sense that they've had massively great players where the fact that the team didn't hit an artificial milestone should be the definition of their greatness.
The ulimate irony of Jesus and Zinchenko is that the introduction of them to the team made us so good that teams had to set-up to make them look atrocious.
Jesus must be infuriating to watch. Seems like he can dribble past players at will, but can never seem to find that end product anywhere near consistently.
I see we managed to squeeze a win. Though the only thing I've seen from the game is a late Quansah challenge that would be 100% VAR'd into a red card in the barclays. Nunez may have scored but I'm told he was quite crap otherwise. Good to see Chiesa and Jota get more minutes but it sounded like the former looked like he is only just starting pre season, but was still unlucky not to score.
Good to see Sir Jim identifying the real problem and cutting the stewards £100 bonus.
Time he was murdered really.
Please accept this Ineos handwash hamper as a token of our appreciation.
Looks like a potentially best ever line up for the League Cup semis. North London Derby, Liverpool v Newcastle ideally, otherwise I guess Liverpool v United and Arsenal v Newcastle.
Serves them right the jobsworth cunts.
He's making Mike Ashley look like a man with a conscience.
I know Onana's not great but why are United playing another mong in goal here?
Rotation.
Surely the league cup was their best shot at an easy win this season?
Amorim's head in hands stare at the floor act is so uninspiring.
Yes but lads, it's Spurs. They will fuck it up.
I think the most important thing on O'Rims list is a good league finish. A run in the Europa and fa cup are also higher up the priorities than the carabao.
Bit unlucky that but Martinez is just awful.
Wasn't he meant to be good at some point?
You mean 'The Butcher'?
There can't have been many more mismatched teams for a competition than Chelsea in the Conference League.
No United fans, I wasn't going down that avenue. Was rather hoping they might wear Spurs out a bit for the weekend, but they're just boosting their confidence the useless fucks.
Here it comes.
Pat Butcher.
Spursy.
If only there was a way they could both lose.
Spurs
Absolute death throes of just the way we play mate if they lose this.
That save by Forster, lol.
They've got to just keep peppering him with shots.
Take note Arne. Tomorrow's session, shooting from range.
Hardly Ange's fault with those mistakes by the gk. Well, apart from selecting him to play that is.
lol what the fuck?
I mean he's shit but that's an obvious foul.
Neville regretting saying the United keeper will be happy he's not looking the biggest loser 5 minutes ago.
An obvious foul would be the attacker clattering into him. That's the sort of dicey shit goalkeepers routinely get, but it's hardly an actual foul.
No way is that a foul, he's just shit.
Spurs still trying to fuck it.
Only watched the last 20 minutes but that was like watching two blind cripples trying to have a fight. Funny, but you know you shouldn’t really be enjoying it.
Could be a game for Nunez.
United were probably the better side. Unfortunately for them aside from Fernandes, Diallo and Yoro their players are dreadful.
Spurs with the 2nd leg at Anfield is best possible result there I think.
Arsenal over two legs is going to be iffy. Still, if we want to win this thing, we need to break the habit of a lifetime.
After a lot of years of our second keepers being surprisingly good, Bayindir is some comedown. He is absolutely awful.
Tottenham scoring 4 with an xG of less than 1
Proof that xG is bullshit. I went to bed at 3-0 and Spurs were every value for that. How are two unchallenged goals inside 8 yards not two xG?Tottenham scoring 4 with an xG of less than 1
Yeah, that's just nonsense. That game was won by the least shit of 2 very shit goalkeepers, but let's not pretend Spurs weren't the better team.
I mean I only watched the highlights but were they really:
I have only seen the goals and I don't know how the xg model that is being quoted works, but if its goal is to be predictive of future chance generation then it should be obvious why the first one does not score low. It's a potshot that the goalkeeper spills into the path of the centre-forward. Not exactly a repeatable process. There are four defenders and the goalkeeper between Kulusevski and the net for the second, and I don't think the third is a straightforward finish either.
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Look at Solanke's PL career shot map (it could be anyone's) from around 16 yards out, green ones are goals. Some of them are headers but doesn't 20-30% look about right?
Scoring four goals in a game is an outlier (like scoring from a corner), and that's why the xg teams record when it happens is generally much lower.
And that's the real quiz.
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