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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    No, it's just a series of happy happenings, this one the happiest yet. No way we're a better team than Arsenal, for example.
    You're better than them and not only that, much more fun to watch on a weekly basis. And led by an albino Caribbean Zola.

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    Yeah, Chelsea have the goals, and madcap excitement of early Klopp Liverpool. They just need to find their Alisson/Van Dijk combo to sort things going backwards. They could even, feasibly, buy/acquire Alisson and Van Dijk.

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    We're definitely fun but we're so bad at the back, that will catch up with us over the course of the season. Thinking top four is very much on now though.

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    They always find a way to win here.

    2026/27 treble winners

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    Yeah on that point they gave up 3/4 good chances at the end there to throw that one away.

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    And yeah, three point lane delivers again.

    'Massive football result' says Merse. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    And yeah, three point lane delivers again.

    'Massive football result' says Merse. Love it.
    Arsenal fans in the last few years realising he’s a massive Chelsea fan is always fun on Twitter

    Brentford, Everton, Fulham, Ipswich, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth and Wolves the games until end of January. Proper bottle job if Chelsea are more than 7 points behind Liverpool by then tbh. No issues with fixture pile ups either.

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    Ashworth's out. I'm sure that was all worth the time and money spent on that appointment.

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    In hindsight Da Nashworth getting the Gary Neville seal of approval should have been a massive red flag flying high.

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    Dan Ashworth was one of the most important figures in recent-ish West Brom history - during the 5 years he was sporting/technical director, we signed the likes of Jonas Olsson (£1m), Graham Dorrans (£300k), Youssouf Mulumbu (£200k), Peter Odemwingie (£3m), Craig Dawson (£300k), Claudio Yacob (fuck all) and Ben Foster (£5m). There was some shite too, but it was an incredible hit rate, especially as most of the failures were like fifty grand from some Portuguese 2nd division side and similar.

    @AJ23 was pondering why successful managers at mediocre clubs can't #stepup, and I often find it pretty confusing. I have no fucking clue what Ashworth has really done since September 2012, but based on his track record for us, I'd say that it's a lot less confusing to work out why he couldn't replicate it at a massive club, lol. Soft skills be damned, there's fuck all that you'd learn from bolstering your promotion push by getting Billy Jones on a free from League One Preston that could be applicable to whatever the fuck Man Red are trying to do.

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    It could well be that he is a fraud chancer and was FOUND OUT by the magnificent all-knowing rest of the 'football structure', but then the question is why INEOS spent a year dragging themselves over hot coals to get him.

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    I can't see it happening but if Arsenal want to actually win anything they need to bin off Jesus ASAP and use the resulting wage savings to bring in a proper number 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It could well be that he is a fraud chancer and was FOUND OUT by the magnificent all-knowing rest of the 'football structure', but then the question is why INEOS spent a year dragging themselves over hot coals to get him.
    It could just be they had different ideas and it didn't work out. It happens that executives/senior employees leave companies when they realize they aren't a great fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I can't see it happening but if Arsenal want to actually win anything they need to bin off Jesus ASAP and use the resulting wage savings to bring in a proper number 9.
    Jesus is such an odd one. He seemed absolutely deadly in his early days, now he's largely useless. Maybe his career path is what it would have been for someone like Romario in the modern running age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It could just be they had different ideas and it didn't work out. It happens that executives/senior employees leave companies when they realize they aren't a great fit.
    Yeah the more that comes out the more this sounds very unexciting. Just didn't gel with the rest of the setup.

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    I'd welcome him back, to be honest. I don't know how far his influence reached but we made the Champions League. Admittedly, we could spend then.

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    Kota Takai. Remember the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Jesus is such an odd one. He seemed absolutely deadly in his early days, now he's largely useless. Maybe his career path is what it would have been for someone like Romario in the modern running age.
    Basically his knee imploded at the last world cup and he's not been right since.

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    David Coote has been sacked.

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    Jesus couldn't score in a brothel right now. He looks like Ade Akinbiyi's long lost brother.

    If Arsenal signed Isak, I think that would be the final piece of the jigsaw for them.

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    With Arsenal, as they are still trophyless since lockdownball. They now have an issue in the summer about players wanting to leave. If they are still trophyless at the end

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    Big pressure on O'Neil. He could be gone before the week is done.

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    As a Middlesbrough, I'm not a fan of O'Neil personally (he downed tools here as a player then threw everyone else under the bus) but he's really matured as a manager and he can only play the card he's been dealt. In the last two years Wolves have brought in upwards of £300m in player sales, bought Cunha for £44m plus a few stragglers, then where is the rest?

    Hard to compete when this is the strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ23 View Post
    If Arsenal signed Isak, I think that would be the final piece of the jigsaw for them.
    Only when he's fit.

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    I'm a twit

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    With Arsenal I don't think it's plug in a top striker and it makes the difference. Aside from corners they don't really create chances. That's not saying that scoring from corners isn't a legitimate way of scoring goals it's that aside from that they don't really create much and that is an issue which isn't going to be fixed by just bunging a decent striker in the team.

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    Slot going full strength seems utterly bizarre. Top 8 is basically confirmed as it is

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    Although he says otherwise I think the team might have been a bit different had they not had their game called off at the weekend. Might as well try to keep the ball rolling as it is, no need to throw in any half baked defeats. Win this and they can also completely sack off the remaining Champions League games, hopefully to fuck over some of the lower down big boys.

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    On the flip side, sounds like maresca is finally giving Chelsea academy players a chance in Europe. It’s currently -17 in Astana so I’m sure they’ll appreciate the run out

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    I think it’s also an issue of options. 6/7 out of this game and most of them are the rotation options. Chiesa, Jota, Bradley, Tsimikas and Konate all being missing means much less choice for the rotations.

    This Girona team is like a decent Premier League team five years ago.

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    Plus win this one and you can pretty much completely sack off the two games in January and still finish top not just in the top 8.

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    It doesn’t matter where you finish in the top 8 does it? You’re seeded regardless I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    It doesn’t matter where you finish in the top 8 does it? You’re seeded regardless I thought
    It does 1st plays 16th, then the winner of 8th versus 9th and all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post
    It does 1st plays 16th, then the winner of 8th versus 9th and all the way through.
    No, top 8 get a bye to the round of 16 and are all seeded and play the winners of the knockout round. 9th - 16th are seeded against 17th - 24th in the knockout round.

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    That’s not a penalty.

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    VAR working its wonders again.

    It's what we all wanted.

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    Someone shoot the VAR CEO.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cm2edy8kxpno

    For the love of God, please let's not go through all this again.

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    I'm not against holding it in Saudi Arabia. It's a country with what will by then be 40 years of World Cup history and several memorable moments (for good and ill), a large country with many host cities.

    Holding it Qatar was pathetic geopoliticking by Platini and the French (Sarkozy) government of the day because they wanted a weapons deal or an airbase or something.

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    Yes but what about the trans youth.

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    Quite. I'm all for the arguments about where it should be held in regards to footballing heritage or otherwise, I just cannot take another two years in the run up to it (10 if that article being posted now is anything to go by) of absolute melts virtue signalling all over the shop only to complete fold when the tournament actually gets here. I'm looking at you Gary "I've always said" Neville and whatever bullshit Team England will try (but not actually try) to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post
    With Arsenal I don't think it's plug in a top striker and it makes the difference. Aside from corners they don't really create chances. That's not saying that scoring from corners isn't a legitimate way of scoring goals it's that aside from that they don't really create much and that is an issue which isn't going to be fixed by just bunging a decent striker in the team.
    Arsenal have scored 13 goals in the last 4 games and 5 of those were from corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Arsenal have scored 13 goals in the last 4 games and 5 of those were from corners.
    Yep, and in their last two games they have scored three goals all from corners. I didn’t watch all of the United game but from everything I’ve seen they didn’t make many chances outside of the corners and they didn’t make many chances in the Fulham game that I remember either.

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    The Red Bull formula being absolutely tragic in this current format is a welcome bonus.

    Both basically goners already.

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    Brest are ace.

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    Brest are proper legends. Them having 13 points and Leipzig zero is mental.

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    They do look like a handful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post
    Yep, and in their last two games they have scored three goals all from corners. I didn’t watch all of the United game but from everything I’ve seen they didn’t make many chances outside of the corners and they didn’t make many chances in the Fulham game that I remember either.
    There was that goal against Fulham that was ruled out by VAR for Martinelli being a midge's dick offside, that was open play. I can't find the table but prior to Chelsea battering Spurs it was said the open play goals table for the calendar year had Arsenal 2nd behind City. The last 2 games haven't been ideal and it will likely keep trending that way because despite buying a million attacking fullbacks they are all dead, Arsenal's system depends on fullbacks rampaging up the wing to support the wingers. When that isn't happening it is probably more favourable to win corners.

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