https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dlOriginally Posted by Lewis
The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl
The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.
Does that say that his victory was down to foreign interference?
Desperate.
You have ignored relevant questions and then misread what I wrote.
Spikey owes phonics an apology.
Russia interferes in every election worldwide, doesn't mean it has much effect. They've not even been able to win a Moldovan EU referendum ffs.
I haven't misread anything. You've just mistaken me for someone who is interested in typing pages to argue with someone who's taken up a patently ludicrous position like "Trump is a normal presidential candidate".
It's like arguing with a flat earther. There is no payoff. It's much better to just point and laugh.
You're either misreading or misunderstanding, it's one of the 2.
I'm not. He knows full well he's taking up a disingenuous position so he can make a "bofe sides" argument which even at face value is not remotely equivalent.
Meanwhile Normal Presidential Candidate normally talks about a dead golfers cock.
So was that whole McDonalds thing just secret service agents/Trump campaign people driving through the drive thru to get served by him? I know these hard hat high vis set-ups are usually a bit stilted but that one seems extra daft.
Normal.
One might even say, all part of the plan…
What actually happens if Trump wins? Cuts funding to Ukraine, pardons himself, appoints all his family to plum positions then goes back to embezzling as much as he can whilst playing golf.
He's more gone than he was last time but he is still just a con man, I don't think he believes what he tells the idiots. Like locking up Hillary, never happened. Just an orange Andrew Wakefield on a conspiracy cruise saying vaccines are evil when the original con was supposed to be buy his vaccine instead, just sinks his length into Elle Macpherson and looks at his bank balance to sleep soundly at night.
One of the all time great cons that.
Your reasons for him being abnormal are either things he hasn't done, or things that other people have done in polite language so you either think they're alright or hadn't considered abnormal. You are hysterical, and everything you are accusing others of being.
Just because you say things don't mean they are true.
Nobody else has told their Vice President to refuse to ratify an election result.
Your "equivalent" examples are not remotely equivalent. Which you know.
Last edited by randomlegend; 22-10-2024 at 09:39 PM.
I see the spastics in charge of the Labour Party have now run afoul of the Trump campaign with their idiotic exhortation for people to go campaigning for Harris. Thought Thornberry was quite good on the issue last week when she was confronted with it last week.
I think Trump and the referendum refuseniks were equally cretinous. You refuse to accept the similarities because you agree with one and not the other. That is fine, but it just makes you sound like a wally.
Elsewhere, sexual assault allegations have been swirling around Bill Clinton for years (and to a lesser extent Joe Biden), and he actually paid somebody off whilst President; there is nothing to seriously suggest that he wants to 'dismantle democracy'; he told the 'insurrectionists' to 'peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard'; and he didn't get involved in any stupid wars, despite you screeching how 'dangerous' he is for the rest of the world.
Relax.
Take an autocue away from Kamala Harris and she has no clue what she's talking about. It's clear to see in many of her interviews. How anyone would think she'd be a good president is beyond me.
You'll need to jog my memory about which British politicians have been indicted for trying to overthrow the referendum result.
Why is that the difference? Is trying to reverse an election result fine as long as there are formal mechanisms for doing so? What a weird moral outlook to have.
I mean she has a law degree, and was District Attorney in San Francisco for 10 years and AG of California for 5 or 6 years. I'm not her biggest fan, but she is clearly very intelligent, and most important, not a psychopath.
Not a chance in hell America elects a half-black, half-Indian woman as president.
Lewis winning multiple best poster awards feels like a lifetime ago.
⅓ black, ⅓ Indian, ⅓ spastic.
There was a vox pop on the BBC the other day where a load of old black fellas were saying a woman can't run the country, time for Racism to fight Sexism to see once and for all which is worse
The class of (often British) political thinkers who grew up wanking themselves dry on Clinton '92 and the West Wing are absolutely baffled by the readiness of many Americans to vote for Trump. Dr David Kelly's murderer put out a bizarre tweet to similar effect yesterday or the day before.
You have to know your opponent to beat them and these people just aren't interested other than in lolling at him being senile or decrying him as Adolf mk 2. Haven't learned whatsoever from the last two elections. Harris may well win but fucking hell.
I am sure some British person writing for The Guardian will convince many Trump voters to switch. Thanks for saving DEMOCRACY, mates.
I'm not sure what's happened today but I've just opened twitter to a whole load more Adolf shite from the usual suspects. Such small-minded people, such lack of imagination.
Have a displeased you, you feckless thug?
You get Hoynes (Trump)!
Biden little speech yesterday, apart from coming across as completely fucking senile and lost, like... why say something like that days before the election... in the morning why didn't one of his aides say "hey Biden you old fuck, if anyone asks you about the garbage stuff, just say 'it was a terrible thing to say'". Shit like this really makes me question the actual intelligence of these people.
Don't understand that thought tbh.
Who was on the fence and deciding who to vote for in the 4 states that matter who went from not voting or voting democrat to voting for Trump because he said it?
It's the most online horse race dog shit.
I generally think that calling 50% of your population garbage is just not a good idea. It may not change people's voting intentions, but it's just a fucking stupid thing to say, and obviously not true.
I mean 1) 100% of the country doesn't vote. 2) Trying to interpret what he said as saying that is just as not true as his statement. It's just the deplorables playbook again.
I can't fathom that Trump is nearly 1/2 favourite to win this.
They don't help themselves by demonising him and the people considering voting for him. They end up doing so purely as a middle finger to those currently in power, much like they did here with Brexit.
Wearing a binman outfit. He gets it and unfortunately that's why he'll win.
TAKING OUT THE TRASH.
Been happening for over 10 years now and I've decided that the moronic rich-liberal people, both sides of the Atlantic, literally can't help themselves.
Has Larry the cat endorsed Harris yet?
Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 31-10-2024 at 01:54 PM.
Except they were mostly doing the middle finger to brown people and other poor people.
You're not alone, far from it, but it really shouldn't be a difficult thing to fathom.
1/2 is a bit skinny for me, only one or two things have to go right for Harris for her to piss it.
If yesterday's stunt was enough to change your vote to trump then you were always doing to vote for him. I doubt you had to hear anything new from either candidate at this stage.
For those in the know, what time are we on for a result? I might have to watch it. The seethe either way will be amusing.
Feels like if you had real conviction you could make a killing laying Trump, the polling is nowhere near those odds and I reckon he loses handily with all but the truly insane in the quiet contemplation of the polling booth.
Let's not forget one of the best charts ever created:
https://x.com/nytgraphics/status/796195155158171648
Anyone still voting for Trump is beyond reasoning, "demonising" them is irrelevant.
I'm not so sure. You will get people that aren't satisfied with the current government but also don't really want a Trunp one either. They're wrestling with that, then the current president pops up on TV and basically calls you a cunt? That's not going to have zero impact.
Maybe they should reflect on whether they are in fact a cunt and stop being one.
They're Americans. They're all cunts, just in different forms. You aren't going to be seeing any reflection or self awareness anytime soon.
Last edited by Spikey M; 31-10-2024 at 04:01 PM.
This is exactly the same shit as 8 years ago. Will we (the left) never learn.
There is no chance in this World or the next that Trump would have beaten Obama, so if he wins on Tuesday the only takeaway should be “how did we fuck this up? Again.”.
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