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    Cmon then folks, giz some reviews.
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    The Famous-beat is so fucking filthy.

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    Tidal. I just started a free trial month and cancelled the subscription immediately.

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    After having gone through it a few times, I can see this having more longevity than Yeezus for me. It's all over the place though, it's more of a mishmash of all of Ye's previous work rather than a bold new direction. Can't forgive him for cutting Vic and Sia from Wolves.

    His bad bars stand out more on this than on Yeezus as well for some reason. Couldn't someone stop him from using the bleached asshole-line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    The Famous-beat is so fucking filthy.
    It really is.

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    http://www72.zippyshare.com/v/jtZaJkG5/file.html

    Wolves with Sia and Vic added back in, and that god awful Ye-verse removed. Gonna replace the album version with this I think.

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    FML makes me wet

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    "Ultralight Beam" is fucking great opener, the choir are so good on it. Excellent verse from Chance as well.

    This has been such a shoddy album rollout though. He's tweeting about being however many millions of dollars in debt (although I very much doubt he is, at least not to the extent he claims), well he would have my money by now if he didn't make the record so difficult to actually buy.

    They need to stop forcing TIDAL on people. I don't think it's ever really going to take off, in fact I think it would be dead in the water already if it wasn't for the strength of Jay-Z's industry connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    http://www72.zippyshare.com/v/jtZaJkG5/file.html

    Wolves with Sia and Vic added back in, and that god awful Ye-verse removed. Gonna replace the album version with this I think.
    Updated the link with an ever better version.

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    Worst release ever. I haven't listened to it yet (very limited data at home currently) but it sounds like it's a complete mishmash of styles and sounds and this chopping and changing of tracks / track list at the last hours just says lack of direction. His last number of albums have all been fairly tight in terms of number of tracks and overall creative cohesion. Certainly seems a lot different this time around.

    Fair? Still looking forward to listening when it eventually gets properly released of course.

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    Seems fair. I don't quite know what to make of it as an album as it listens more like a list of unreleased tracks rather than a proper focussed piece of work. There are a lot of really, really great tracks in it though.

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    It's a beautiful mess.

    I'll either love it or hate it in a month

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    It's growing on me really quickly. Like, it's coming together, and I can't really point out outright weak songs. I find Feedback and Freestyle 4 abrasive in the same way that Yeezus is, but everything else is 8-10/10. Waves -> Wolves is a fucking amazing string of tracks.

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    Ultra Light Beam is legit amazing but it really is all over the place after that. Defo some great stuff in there though. Probably bring out a new version of the album tomorrow so chill out lads.

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    He keeps making thinly veiled begging requests for Mark Zuckerberg/anyone to help him out financially on Twitter now.

    This is all very strange. He's been very erratic lately, even by his own standards. I think there's a fair chance he might legitimately be cracking up a little bit.

    The album is good though. I like it more with every play through. Like others have said, it's not his most cohesive work. Whereas albums like Yeezus and MBDTF were very much mood pieces, this is more of a scattershot collection of different ideas and directions. They're mostly really cool ideas and directions though, so I'm fine with it. Fuck knows if this ends up being the "final" version I'm listening to. I can't see him changing it much to be honest. It's out there now, notable publications are reviewing it and shit.

    I imagine all this "please sign up to TIDAL!"/"I'm selling the album in a week when I've "fixed" Wolves" shit is just him staring down the barrel realisation that he's fucked up this album release massively (which he has) and stands to miss out on sales because of it.

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    I'd be cracking up a bit if I was legitimately 53 million in debt and had a quite clear drug problem.

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    He has 'a quite clear' drug problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I'd be cracking up a bit if I was legitimately 53 million in debt and had a quite clear drug problem.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that. You would think, approaching 40 and with two kids, he would know better. But a lot of his behaviour seems to point towards him being strung out on something.

    How the fuck could he have managed to get himself that much in debt? Bad decisions regarding his "fashion" career is all I can think of. Isn't that shit always selling out though? Fuck knows what he's been up to.

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    To propose to Kim he rented out the Chicago Cubs/Bears (the baseball one) ground and got the Illinois Symphony Orchestra to play. He's always noted his expensive taste and ability to throw it away. I'd probably be the same.

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    And he's into game development which, as we all know, is a sure way to piss money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    And he's into game development which, as we all know, is a sure way to piss money.


    I didn't want to make fun of the video game, what with it being about his Mother and all, but since you've mentioned it.

    It's things like that that really demonstrate how detached from reality he can get.

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    His trainers he was selling were going at $300 in seconds. I'm sure they goat is doing quite fine.

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    Listened to TLOP a few times today, albeit intermittently interrupted by TomTom, and it's pretty good. No More Parties In LA is probably my initial standout track purely because Kendrick's verse is fire and then Kanye goes HAM too, and I like rap ahead of anything else. All seems pretty good though, and looking forward to listening to it more, whereas with Yeezus I just couldn't.

    First thing I did after one play through was delete Low Lights though.

    The features are weak, in my opinion. Jay-Z and Nicki Minaj aren't current, but their inclusion on Monster for example gave MBDTF a bit more polish. Rihanna's hardly selling records these days so can't really count her as a big feature. Young Thug can get lost, never heard of Desiigner or whatever. Why didn't Andre 3000 do a verse? It's like it's not actually him and Kanye's just like "yeah cmon three stacks" and it's weird. Chance's verse is good (although pales in comparison to his one with Busta). The Weeknd song is prob my second favourite but that's because I'm a bit of secret stan, and Chris Brown's feature is so shoe it's almost unnecessary. Was surprised he didn't get anyone from the grime scene (unless I missed it?) on the back of his All Day performance. Having Yungen pop up on a track, or a rhyme-off with various members of BBK, similar to Smuckers with Tyler The Creator and Lil Wayne would have made my year. Needed a Bieber hook too.

    The album cover is one of the worst I've ever seen, mind you.
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    Yatchs

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    Reading it makes me think of that scene in Step Brothers where they give the "Prestige Worldwide" presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Reading it makes me think of that scene in Step Brothers where they give the "Prestige Worldwide" presentation.
    Oh my God.

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    This and his 'You have interrupted my creative process' one are top 10 quotes.

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    *bear
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    The only really great feature is Chance on the first track imo. I mean, Thugger does his thing, but it's not like you'd ever get blown away by his lyricism or whatever.

    Speaking of his mass debt, I read somewhere that when he first tried to get into fashion he met with people in the industry who charged him like 250k for "tutoring sessions" (scum). Kanye seems like the kind of guy to totally go for that if he's enthusiastic about making a go at it, so he probably bleed money during that process.

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    He's a mentalist. What is he doing with this release? It's on Spotify now, right? He says it will never be on iTunes, only ever on Tidal and never for sale.

    I wonder how the stans are dealing with this breakdown. I guess no one will really care if he continues making good music, and clothes (snigger).

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    He's genuinely mentally ill and that snake Jay-Z is using him to promote his terrible music streaming service.

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    Walking out of the office on the brightest winter day with Waves in my ears.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    He's genuinely mentally ill and that snake Jay-Z is using him to promote his terrible music streaming service.
    The fact that he even thought running a digital streaming service was a good idea blows my mind.


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    I've copped the album (yea right I'm signing up to Tidal) and I've just noticed that it has eighteen tracks. How do you plan on having an album with 9 tracks go to 18 in a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I've copped the album (yea right I'm signing up to Tidal) and I've just noticed that it has eighteen tracks. How do you plan on having an album with 9 tracks go to 18 in a week?
    Take everything after Wolves as bonus tracks. Also, there's like 3 interludes in there as well.

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    Waves > FML > Real Friends > Wolves

    Shag my arse, take my monies

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    These hooks are Tarantinoesque in their length.

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    Could someone kindly pm me a working zip / rar link for this? I would quite like to listen to it.

    nvm, found one.

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    I've just got a Tidal trial (for the second time, using a different email address).

    I wasn't too keen on first listen but I can tell there's some tracks I'll be going back to a fair bit. I echo others' thoughts though - it doesn't feel like an album, much more like a mixtape and not a particularly focused one. It's surprising in one sense after such definite styles on Dark Fantasy and Yeezus but perhaps we should have expected it given his focus is on fashion nowdays.

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    I saw that you can buy it on Tidal but the $20 price becomes £20 here. It'll be available to normal people right?

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    He's claiming (at the moment) that it will only ever be available on Tidal.

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    He wants you to pirate it, Wullie. Just embrace it. All the people who expected a copy with their release show ticket have been shafted.

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    Ok, this is great.

    The rework of Facts actually makes it kind of amazing, I think. Can't stop listening to Ultra Light Beams and Waves. This album is also notable for having a Swizz Beatz feature that doesn't ruin the song.

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    Facts is my least favourite track. I really don't give a shit about Nike, Kanye. In fact the lyrics and flow are just about my idea of the worst rap has to offer.

    Ultralight Beam and FML are the two standouts for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    Take everything after Wolves as bonus tracks. Also, there's like 3 interludes in there as well.
    I think that's fair. He even says during 30 Hours that it's "a bonus". It's basically a five minute stream of consciousness draft.

    Fade is no kind of album closer. There are parts of the album I really like, but I can't help but feel this could have been so much better with a little more direction and focus.

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    http://www.stereogum.com/1860318/aes...gs-video/mp3s/

    New Aesop Rock album in April. Obviously this is great news. Skelethon was so fucking good, I sometimes think I might even like it more than Labor Days.

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    I'm liking Any Time, Any Place by Janet Jackson. Not hip-hop, but learned Kendrick sampled it (one of his best sampled tunes I think).

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