I think it's a very different experience having deep runs and losing like Holland in the 70s, or having deep runs and losing like Southgate's England.
I'd take a pot win over either, naturally.
IT. IS. COMING. HOME.
Spain
Germany
France
Portugal
Italy
Actually I think [insert team who won't win] could win it!
I'm a bore and want league football back
I'm even more of a bore and want to discuss TRANSFERS
A glory-supporting turtle wearing the winners' kit
I think it's a very different experience having deep runs and losing like Holland in the 70s, or having deep runs and losing like Southgate's England.
I'd take a pot win over either, naturally.
Thank Christ. Never should've been appointed, as the record will show I said at the time and throughout his tenure from the very beginning. ()
Congrats on being wrong at the time and throughout his tenure!Originally Posted by randomlegend
Thank Christ. Never should've been appointed, as the record will show I said at the time and throughout his tenure from the very beginning. (
I was the only one that voted Spain to win. Shame on you all.
For all that he's shit, I wouldn't have got rid of him at any point until now. I would have just hoped that his good qualities could be added to. They were not.
Boring, whatever. First time I knew joy as an England fan. Dier pen against Colombia, battering Germany 2-0, Shaw's goal in the final, the Bellingham and Palmer goals this tournament. Maybe my bar is too low.
But yes, time to go.
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I think it was Jonny Liew on Football Weekly Extra said Southgate always reeked of the cologne of Palace and Middlesborough, a perennial failure
What.
Either he thinks you and Waff are the same person, or he thinks runners-up means winners.
It was an average tournament overall I'd say, with most of the early doors fun coming from the lesser teams, a few of which gave it a really creditable go. From the quarter-finals onwards the whole thing was completely saved by Spain as a spectacle and in some ways, I'm glad not football was the loser.
Remember our 0-0 draw with Slovenia? That was peak tournament football I think.
What I still cannot understand about that is that if it was always the intention to 0-0 our way through the last game (it was) why on earth didn't he rest people?
I feel like I'm living in The Truman Show.
He must have been personally at fault for at least 50% of the goals England conceded.
I didn't know Sir Gareth picked the team of the tournament as well...
Nah, Trippier would have been in at leftback.
On the subject of which, I had missed G. Neville writing Spain off earlier in the tournament on the back of them having a rubbish leftback. It was notable, in the final, with a half fit fat fucker playing in his natural position, in a game where we were fully committed to 'the pragmatic approach' against the best team in the tournament we still looked much the better for it. Imagine if we'd had an actual fit actual leftback for the whole tournament. Maybe we could have played well and built some confidence as things progressed.
I swear these cunts watch a different sport entirely.
I feel like I'm living in The Truman Show.
They'll love his selfless runs to open space up for Saka and his BLISTERING effort to get back and stop a dangerous counter attack. The fact that he gave the ball away to start said counter attack and was stood 20 yards out of position for the goal they did score, not so much.
He might be the most frustrating player in history. Every positive attribute going, apart from a functioning brain.
Spain have won all their trophies with a fucking useless left back who was nonetheless a left back. Capdevila and now this guy.
Makes you think.
Maybe he’s just quite good and another player Chelsea have ruined. Pep wanted him for a reason and he was the best defender at the tournament. Wasn’t like he had a one off good game
I honestly think Curcurella had a good tournament. But then he's not playing with those guys week in, week out.
Cucurella is decent. He was just a bit of a lol/inexplicable signing at the price.
Cucurella was good. Carvajal on the other hand was a bit of a liability.
Still can't believe that France had Mbappe vs Navas on a yellow card for about 70 minutes and couldn't get anything out of the situation.
I listened to a podcast yesterday, and they described the first half as a "tactical masterclass" by Southgate and also describe the Spain team as "generational". I must be completely losing touch with footy. I though the first half was solid, and decent from England, and a little stodgy by Spain. The Spain are alright, amazing wingers + Rodri + Ruiz, the rest... bang average. Maybe it's just old age and under valuing the current players.
Stop listening to these opinion generators and use your own eyes.
I feel like Carvajal is consistently overlooked for how good he is/has been.
I suppose you could say Spain have a prospectively mega side seeing as they have Gavi and Pedri who didn't play, but they still have Morata and a mostly dodgy/average defence. Not wildly dissimilar to England, just played a lot better. Yamal is obviously a great prospect, but then so was Fati, and Shaw did boss him for most of the match.
As has been the case for a while though once something has happened once it is then extrapolated forward forever, people are unable to opine that things might not always stay the same. Lewis Hamilton was the first I can really recall. Pencilled in for 10 plus world titles after his first. Must be why all those stocks and shares warning about losing your money have to be issued.
What we know for sure is that no more young footballers are going to come through anywhere in the world in the next 15 years, so it really is hard to see Spain being stopped.
The reason they won is that they tried to play well instead of just avoiding risk. Trying to play well gives you a lot more chance to score goals, which is how football is won. If they hadn't won then Germany would have done.
Yep. At no point against Spain did we actually try and win. We tried to stay level and then equalise, but we didn't try and win.
Yeah I think playing four-hundred games for the team that can literally buy anyone is a reasonable measure. Spanish Gary Neville.
By that measure they could also easily have bought someone better than him then?
He's saying the fact that they haven't done that means he must be decent.
Okay my bad. I saw the words Gary Neville and assumed an insult.
Like Zabaleta.
I'm a twit
https://www.marca.com/futbol/futbol-...8628b45bc.html
What a glorious quote.
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