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Thread: Euro 2024: The Knockouts

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    Don’t worry, 6 weeks until the proper football is back.

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    Why are we getting bummed in midfield like that? It's not like we have bad players there is it.

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    Alright, in an alternative world where Southgate's luck is not a factor, this lot goes out in the Quarter Finals to Germany. Then the manager gets sacked. At least this way, we've seen England reach two finals and narrowly lose. One of which is on foreign soil.

    And we can take penalties now.

    And we don't shit the bed when going behind. He make the bed. Then we think about getting back in it.

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    Manioo was utterly dogshit btw

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    Rice was terrible but Pickford just punting the ball out of play any time the ball got beat him didn’t help.

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    'Not easy to get to these finals'. Literally played nobody good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Why are we getting bummed in midfield like that? It's not like we have bad players there is it.
    Rice is a plodder, he cannot control games. Mainoo usually good was off it today, Bellingham too far forward.

    Crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Manioo was utterly dogshit btw
    Have to agree. He was overwhelmed in the middle unfortunately. Wharton never played a minute in the tournament did he? He should’ve been tested in the group stage.

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    Kyle Walker may very well be a "cheat code" in Pep's high line, where his pace can make up for his lack of a brain, but he is, well... whatever the fuck that was, when you're standing on the edge of your own box. And at no point did Sir Gareth do anything about it, despite how obvious it was and how many chances they had because of it.

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    He was out of position/beaten in virtually every chance Spain created.

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    I can't believe Trent got done for both goals like that. This is why you take a proper RB like Walker who can defend.

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    Lol.

    Yous bothered to play for, what, ten minutes or so when behind? Got the equaliser and then sat back again.

    Southgate's shite.

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    England tried to play for the first ~15 minutes and actually looked good. Imagine if they tried to do that for 90 minutes.

    Kane and Foden are dogshit.

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    Wait, did they make Rodrigo player of the tournament? Gtfo.

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    England created less xG at Euro 2024 (6.43) than Croatia (7.10).

    Croatia went out at the Group Stage.

    Southgate ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Lol.

    Yous bothered to play for, what, ten minutes or so when behind? Got the equaliser and then sat back again.

    Southgate's shite.
    Even worse, they sat back with a lopsided midfield, having taken out Mainoo for Palmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    England tried to play for the first ~15 minutes and actually looked good. Imagine if they tried to do that for 90 minutes.

    Kane and Foden are dogshit.
    Kane is one of the best strikers in the world. His numbers don't lie. He's just being asked to play in a way that he can't. It's like putting Defoe on and floating crosses into him like he's Peter Crouch or asking Kyle Walker to stay in position as a fucking right back.

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    And yet, even for England, it wasn't always like this.

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    Potter in.

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    The players are all good enough. It’s firmly at Southgate’s door. If I can be arsed I’ll give it the full post when I get in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Kane is one of the best strikers in the world. His numbers don't lie. He's just being asked to play in a way that he can't. It's like putting Defoe on and floating crosses into him like he's Peter Crouch or asking Kyle Walker to stay in position as a fucking right back.
    If us and Spain swapped strikers we would both be miles better off.

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    Morata to lift the trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    If us and Spain swapped strikers we would both be miles better off.
    Indeed. Wingers and midfielders making runs. He'd have a field day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Wait, did they make Rodrigo player of the tournament? Gtfo.
    While not sure I'd have given it to him, he was up there so it's not that much of a stretch.

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    Oh and you can add Spain to the very long list of best teams at a tournament that won it.

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    The frustrating part is that Southgate hasn't learnt a jot from previous tournaments. He is doing the same thing, hoping for different outcomes. Gets lucky with the draw and moments of individual brilliance.
    Same shit, different tournament.

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    There wasn't really an obvious Player of the Tournament, so he probably just got it by default for being their main man. Alan Shearer was giving it to Saka the other day the headcase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Why are we getting bummed in midfield like that? It's not like we have bad players there is it.
    Declan Rice was absolutely abysmal in both the semi and final, having been alright previously. Completely lost the plot. Maybe Mainoo, whilst individually good until tonight, upset the BALANCE.

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    It’s definitely this. England shoudve gone out vs Slovakia and it would’ve been obvious this squad is being wasted and a more attacking manager is needed.

    Southgate was holding this team back and moments of magic from the sensational players at your disposal almost hid that. So glad this shite negative football didn’t prevail.

    Fabian ruiz was incredible, so was olmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adramelch View Post
    While not sure I'd have given it to him, he was up there so it's not that much of a stretch.
    To me Dani Olmo deserved it clearly, but Rodrigo is not exactly undeserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    There wasn't really an obvious Player of the Tournament, so he probably just got it by default for being their main man. Alan Shearer was giving it to Saka the other day the headcase.
    Olmo was the obvious choice.

    Joint top scorer and he was in general amazing.

    Bonkers that he only became a starter when Pedri got injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    England created less xG at Euro 2024 (6.43) than Croatia (7.10).

    Croatia went out at the Group Stage.

    Southgate ball


    Tremendous.

    All the hand wringing and revisionism is great as well.

    Callers for Potter are going to be sadly disappointed as his is terrorball of a different flavour. Always too many defensive minded players on the pitch.

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    I'd take any manager who will actually play the best players, rather than bringing them on when his World Cup 2018 legends have run out gas and are 1-0 down.

    Potter ideally though. Must have been holding on for this.

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    Player of the tournament was that Georgian striker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    The frustrating part is that Southgate hasn't learnt a jot from previous tournaments. He is doing the same thing, hoping for different outcomes. Gets lucky with the draw and moments of individual brilliance.
    Same shit, different tournament.
    I'm not too sure about that. This time around, his substitutions worked. Palmer tonight, Watkins in the semi, Toney for one of the other knockouts. We do react well to going behind. I just wish we stuck to that reaction instead of restoring parity and then reverting to Plan A.

    He still picks the same XI religiously and has his favourites. Not an ounce of squad management to the bloke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    There wasn't really an obvious Player of the Tournament, so he probably just got it by default for being their main man. Alan Shearer was giving it to Saka the other day the headcase.
    It’s definitely Dani Olmo, especially after that goal line clearance, but you can’t give it to him because nobody’s ever heard of him and he looks like a fucking shark.

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    Also, I don't know if it was commented on, but when it was 1-1 and the commentators said England need some impetus off the bench and name checked Trippier and Gallagher warming up I lolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I'm not too sure about that. This time around, his substitutions worked. Palmer tonight, Watkins in the semi, Toney for one of the other knockouts. We do react well to going behind. I just wish we stuck to that reaction instead of restoring parity and then reverting to Plan A.

    He still picks the same XI religiously and has his favourites. Not an ounce of squad management to the bloke.
    We could just play like that without going behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Also, I don't know if it was commented on, but when it was 1-1 and the commentators said England need some impetus off the bench and name checked Trippier and Gallagher warming up I lolled.
    Trippier at right back would have been a game changing substitution to be fair.

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    Sir Gareth really hanging on to that one day less to prepare…

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    Genuine question. If Southgate leaves, what is his level for a job at club level? Everton? Bournemouth? There’s no way he should be in charge of anyone with ambitions of competing for titles.

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    Aye. I get Southgate's twisted logic. Manage the game, sneak something on individual brilliance, etc. But, when you've got that brilliance, you might as well start with it. Fuck the fitness advantage or whatever. Although that probably stems from him having an unchangeable, favourite first team.

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    Southgate would be a catastrophic club manager, so hopefully our bald dutch idiot is marginally less useless than the other one as someone is going to get Gaz'd if he leaves England.

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    Trippier would’ve been roasted alive against Williams. Walker positioning a bit abject at times but he dealt with Williams really well and can only really do that because of his pace. Trippier would’ve been skinned time and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Genuine question. If Southgate leaves, what is his level for a job at club level? Everton? Bournemouth? There’s no way he should be in charge of anyone with ambitions of competing for titles.
    He has Tottenham written all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Genuine question. If Southgate leaves, what is his level for a job at club level? Everton? Bournemouth? There’s no way he should be in charge of anyone with ambitions of competing for titles.
    USMNT nailed on, if not that, the ITV studio. He'd be absolute wank in modern day club football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Declan Rice was absolutely abysmal in both the semi and final, having been alright previously. Completely lost the plot. Maybe Mainoo, whilst individually good until tonight, upset the BALANCE.
    Who you really needed, this whole time, was Jordan Henderson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Genuine question. If Southgate leaves, what is his level for a job at club level? Everton? Bournemouth? There’s no way he should be in charge of anyone with ambitions of competing for titles.
    I honestly don't know if club football interests him. If he does take another job, it's with Belgium.

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    Sir Jim, Sir Dave, Sir Gareth. Match made in heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Trippier would’ve been roasted alive against Williams. Walker positioning a bit abject at times but he dealt with Williams really well and can only really do that because of his pace. Trippier would’ve been skinned time and again.
    I'm not sure you were on the right channel for the second half. He didn't deal with him at all, never mind "really well".

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