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    I don't think Moyes comes back from this.

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    Lampard as interim only really makes sense if they are waiting for someone for in the summer. But there's Nagelsmann, Pochettino and Luis Enrique who pretty much fit the bill and are available now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I don't think Moyes comes back from this.
    Especially not with a newly-unemployed Potter available

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    United were reasonably good, end product aside, and it didn't look all that tiring. I think they need seven wins from ten to equal Ole Gunnar Binman's best points total.

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    Rashford, man. What's going on.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    "Hey, my stuff's where I left it! Seriously, though ..."

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    It might be that whoever their fave is doesn't want to start until the summer. Really would rather Luis Enrique than Nagelsmann.

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    Are Leicester really going to be stupid enough to bring back O’Neill?

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    I don't see how Moyes comes back from conceding five at home to noted scoring strugglers. I just hope they go for Potter or Rodgers rather than poaching Carrick.

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    It'll depend on who fancies moving to a club where relegation is a definite threat. I can't see Rodgers going for that when he's spent a year looking in that direction.

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    Fat Frank

    Back with the vibes. Think it’s actually quite a good move to get the fans back onside. Not a chance he stays on unless he brings home #3 so it’s a win-win regardless. At least he will get the forwards scoring, he’ll just turn the defence into a shambles again. Nagelsmann or Enrique will take over, probably the former

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    I heard they've got so many bodies some are having to change on the floor and corridor like some NHS hospital and they're doing 11v11 and a 9v9 game simultaneously in training. Probably best they leave the respectable appointments till the summer.

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    Not wanting to take over ASAP even if you are currently unemployed is such a red flag, why would you not want as much time as possible to get to grips with the squad [on the assumption you won't be sacked no matter what goes down this season]?

    All of the mentioned names so far seem like absolute chancers though, so Frank's probably just as good a bet. Maybe 'Mase' will sign a new contract now.

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    Nagelsmann is on (whatever the German is for) Gardening Leave until the Summer. They could probably bung Bayern some money to let him sign now, but what would be the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Not wanting to take over ASAP even if you are currently unemployed is such a red flag, why would you not want as much time as possible to get to grips with the squad [on the assumption you won't be sacked no matter what goes down this season]?

    All of the mentioned names so far seem like absolute chancers though, so Frank's probably just as good a bet. Maybe 'Mase' will sign a new contract now.
    That’s what pre season is for. Be a completely different team come pre season again anyway in terms of numbers. Chelsea will be pushing for all their sales before end of June for the end of the financial year especially if they miss out on CL.

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    Nagelsmann is a big avoid for me. Everything about him screams AVB and his achievements are very similar to those of Potter. You have a squad who are a bunch of egos and continually fail to take managers seriously, why would they take this jumped up cretin seriously either? We need someone with heft.

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    Jose rumours

    If he comes I may identify as a gammon.

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    He's the ideal appointment, always.

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    I don't really get the big egos thing at Chelsea, their squad is made up of absolute nobodies for the most part. It's not like you have the likes of Terry, Lampard and Drogba lolling at zany new methods.

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    Hang on so far I have seen. Fat Frank is taking it on an interim basis. Mourinho, Nagelsman, Enrique and Conte have all been linked. Now I've just seen they are interested in Xabi Alonso who has been managing for all of what six months in Germany? It's like pin the tail on the fucking donkey.

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    Terry, Lampard and Drogba would all be alpha pros and work to their own standards under basically any manager, even Avram Grant, and this is how Roberto Di Matteo has a Champions League winners medal. The dressing room doesn't have any of those, I don't think, maybe Thiago Silva at a push but he has a thirsty wife.

    What we're talking about is players 10 years down the line from that who have (unlike the above three) always been paid ludicrous money from their teens onwards, have agents in their ear and trophy wives thirsty for drama. The ego on someone like Aubameyang, Pulisic, Ziyech, Zakaria who find themselves out of favour is not necessarily commensurate to their stature in the game but is just as lethal for a manager seen as weak.

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    Nagelsmann ticks all the boxes to make Jimmy jump ship altogether.

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    If you have retarded owners. Weakness there is as much of an issue as perceived weakness in a manager.

    Why would you appoint Potter, who by his own admission doesn't have much gravitas due to being called Graham and having a ginger beard, if you want a Carlo Ancellotti type?

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    At the time it seemed a really cool appointment. He'd seemingly taken Brighton, with a small budget, and put them in the hunt for European spots so imagine what he could achieve with some backing. Obviously De Zerbi has come in since and shown there's levels to all this but I recall a lot of the reaction to Potter's appointment initially being positive.

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    Yeah, but you appoint him for 18 months minimum, not as a short term firefighter to sort out a mess of a squad which was only made more of a mess in January.

    Maybe that's why no one wants the job right now. No guarantee you won't then be sacked if things continue as they are.

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    I completely agree. The sacking is bizarre because they're back to square one now and really they're between a rock and a hard place. They need to bring in a strong personality to unlock the potential of the squad but at the same time it's almost inevitable that said strong personality will not rate some of the new signings so will end up clashing with the board because they want to write off a couple of hundred million quid's worth of players that don't fit their ethos.

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    The Potter appointment (and Tuchel sacking) had a clear logic to it in the sense that they are (or employ) analytics people and probably saw that his Brighton teams had amazing numbers so thought we'll have us some of that. Tuchel's teams were pretty dire a lot of the time. Problem is that unlike baseball, football is both fluid (i.e. it's not just either he hits a home run or he doesn't, opinions abound) and the culture both in the dressing room and the stands is far (far, far) less patient, something they probably hadn't appreciated or researched properly, so a long term project just isn't going to happen at a club of this size. Ultimately it's an American capital fund, these are not humble people at all, they'll have made big assumptions and consequently big mistakes. All the stuff with 8 year contracts is a bit too clever by half I think.

    They'll probably now want someone who is like Potter numbers-wise, but will also deliver immediately. Good luck with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Yeah, but you appoint him for 18 months minimum, not as a short term firefighter to sort out a mess of a squad which was only made more of a mess in January.

    Maybe that's why no one wants the job right now. No guarantee you won't then be sacked if things continue as they are.
    It was only going to get worse. He was just out his depth. Move along.

    Not sure there is a shortage of people wanting the job either. No European football to worry about. PL wrapped up by April next year ala Conte after a 10th place finish. It’s a Chelsea thing.

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    On Basketball, I watched the Shaq documentary the other day and (having seen a load of similar stuff now) the tactics in that sport seem to begin and end with employing the triangle and your star player turning it on, which apparently they can do at will.

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    Sounds like Sir Brendan’s Swansea tactics.
    I'm a twit

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    I've sent big Todd a screenshot of my FM13 achievements and, just to really tickle his fancy, a demand to be paid no less than £2m a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    On Basketball, I watched the Shaq documentary the other day and (having seen a load of similar stuff now) the tactics in that sport seem to begin and end with employing the triangle and your star player turning it on, which apparently they can do at will.
    When I watched Last Dance there was a bit I found funny in which Jordan's Bulls were playing Charles Barkley's Suns in what must have been the 1992 or 1993 finals. It was a close series that went back and forth, and the doc just went from clips of Barkley saying '...and there was no way I was gonna let them win that game' to clips of Jordan saying '...and there was no way I was gonna let them win [the next] game'. What would have happened if they'd both not let the other win, in the same game? Would they still be playing now?

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    That's just sports wank hindsight though isn't it. "You knew it was in the moment it left his foot!!!" says the commentator of a shot we've all seen creep outside the post a million times rather than just inside it.

    You never see clips of people going "and I absolutely knew we were going to win that game. But, erm, then we lost, so I guess I knew jack shit."

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    Does the relatively small number of players needed for a basketball team/squad allow for the easier creation of super superstar teams? Always sort of feels that way. Not like you need a 50-man roster a la the NFL, and you probably have a bigger pool to pick from being as other countries also pay the sport.

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    I really enjoy it, so it's not like I think it makes the sport bad or anything, but it genuinely feels like it's the least tactically developed sport going - even with the million or so 'plays' that supposedly exist.

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    At the risk of flying headlong into pseuds corner, I've always felt it reflects the individual-first culture that is found in a lot of Africa (and by extension in post-slavery black America), and also some of the call-and-response dynamics that you find in Go Go and to some extent hip hop, though I don't know loads about hip hop. No massively complex rules, a free-flowing structure, one side quickly responding to another, and set to an established rhythm (the bouncing of the ball).

    Baseball of course the ultimate white man's game. Everyone has to stand in their proper place, everything that happens gets written down carefully and in great detail. If you hit it out of the park you can't show any joy as that would be disrespectful to your opponent.

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    If it wasn't for the dangers of digital blackface, I'd be posting up that MJ popcorn gif. That's the sort of dissection I'm here for, baby.

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    Jesus Christ. Just needed something about baggy jeans in there.

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    I've got another one about how the makeup of an NFL team reflects the dynamics of the slave plantation, but I'll save that for Easter Sunday.

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    I have a theory on "why most wingers appear to be wrong'uns" that I'd like to pencil in somewhere.

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    Easter Monday's free Spikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I really enjoy it, so it's not like I think it makes the sport bad or anything, but it genuinely feels like it's the least tactically developed sport going - even with the million or so 'plays' that supposedly exist.
    That's more of an NBA thing rather than the sport as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I don't really get the big egos thing at Chelsea, their squad is made up of absolute nobodies for the most part. It's not like you have the likes of Terry, Lampard and Drogba lolling at zany new methods.
    It's arguably big egos that kept the squad together during the Abramovich years. John Terry should really start getting his badges.

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    Jose Mourinho would have an absolute ball working for these spendthrift rubes. He would either get everything he wanted and eventually blow it all up, or blow it all up in record time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I've got another one about how the makeup of an NFL team reflects the dynamics of the slave plantation, but I'll save that for Easter Sunday.
    I’m holding you to that.

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    This is probably the only chance I'll get to share it, but I've got a theory about homosexual tories and aspergers, which is based on a former housemate (who definitely ticked all the boxes) and Jimmy here. Small sample size but it's coming along.

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    I am willing to give up my Easter Monday slot .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    This is probably the only chance I'll get to share it, but I've got a theory about homosexual tories and aspergers, which is based on a former housemate (who definitely ticked all the boxes) and Jimmy here. Small sample size but it's coming along.
    The Young Conservative numbers must be majority gay at this point. It's weird.

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    I'm a long way from being aspy, but people who grow up in small-c conservative environments and are gay are obviously going to be less comfortable in themselves than people to whom only one of those things applies. Those Young Tory weirdos to whom Lewis refers are all just searching for something to belong to. Fortunately I had sport. And TTH, obvs.

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