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Thread: February Football: The (Not A) Ho Chi Minh Special

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    Nunez just has a cloud over him that won't last forever. I'd say money is to be made on him being top scorer next season.

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    Match fixing has to come into question with him at Anfield.

    Sky really are a joke letting gimps like Carragher and Neville commentate on their teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Nunez just has a cloud over him that won't last forever. I'd say money is to be made on him being top scorer next season.
    He hasn't.

    He had ONE season at Benfica where he ridiculously outscored his expected goals, mostly by way of laughable goalkeeping mistakes.

    He's just regressed to his mean. He's shit.

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    Don't ever mention 'expected' anything to me. Load of horse shite aimed at a shower of youtube twats.

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    You got so close to the real issue before shitting all over yourself.

    He has indeed had one season as a Benfica starter, which was his only taste of proper European football as a starter before he moved to us. He's still finding his feet, but has all of the right tools to be a very good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    He hasn't.

    He had ONE season at Benfica where he ridiculously outscored his expected goals, mostly by way of laughable goalkeeping mistakes.

    He's just regressed to his mean. He's shit.
    He's averaging over 1.0 xG + xA per 90 this season which is elite territory. Best in the top 5 leagues in Europe this season, in fact, though he has less minutes and more sub appearances than the rest of the top 10.

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    You only need to actually watch him playing to know that it's just a bit of a mental thing and he's just that last step away from a shit load of goals. Or yeah, opta instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    You got so close to the real issue before shitting all over yourself.

    He has indeed had one season as a Benfica starter, which was his only taste of proper European football as a starter before he moved to us. He's still finding his feet, but has all of the right tools to be a very good player.
    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    He's averaging over 1.0 xG + xA per 90 this season which is elite territory. Best in the top 5 leagues in Europe this season, in fact.
    @Gray Fox and there's your twat. Couldn't have paid for that timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    You got so close to the real issue before shitting all over yourself.

    He has indeed had one season as a Benfica starter, which was his only taste of proper European football as a starter before he moved to us. He's still finding his feet, but has all of the right tools to be a very good player.
    No, he had two seasons as a starter. The first he scored 6 in 29 in the league. That was always his actual level. He's your Maguire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    He's averaging over 1.0 xG + xA per 90 this season which is elite territory. Best in the top 5 leagues in Europe this season, in fact, though he has less minutes and more sub appearances than the rest of the top 10.
    Yeah, but he doesn't convert. As he hasn't for any other part of his career other than one outlier season.

    I said he'd be shit before he came. He is shit. You mongs still want to argue that yeah ok he's shit but he definitely will be good.

    He won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    No, he had two seasons as a starter. The first he scored 6 in 29 in the league. That was always his actual level. He's your Maguire.
    He only started 19 of those in fairness, and was substituted off in 8 of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Yeah, but he doesn't convert. As he hasn't for any other part of his career other than one outlier season.

    I said he'd be shit before he came. He is shit. You mong's still want to argue that yeah ok he's shit but he definitely will be good.

    He won't.
    You brought up the xG. 37 goals from 36.5 xG going back to 20/21 when he joined Benfica. :shrug:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    @Gray Fox and there's your twat. Couldn't have paid for that timing.
    He's not going to knock Haaland levels of goals in, but buying the finished article is something we rarely do. I still think he's got a good 20+ league goals per season in him once he settles.

    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    No, he had two seasons as a starter. The first he scored 6 in 29 in the league. That was always his actual level. He's your Maguire.
    Or he took a year to settle and then banged in goals for fun. It's all in how you want to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Or he took a year to settle and then banged in goals for fun. It's all in how you want to see it.
    Watch the compilation of goals he scored that season for Benfica. It's so bad. So many are laughable goalkeeping.

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    A good job we don't have laughable goalkeeping in the Barclays Premier League.


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    Finishing ability is way overblown most of the time. The absolute best (Messi) beat xG by about 15%, nearly everyone else is about 0-10% either way across their career with the occasional outlier spell.

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    This page has covered the spectrum.

    I'm a Nunez fan. Fabinho not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    You brought up the xG. 37 goals from 36.5 xG going back to 20/21 when he joined Benfica. :shrug:
    Hit me up next season when he's still putting up ELITE xNumbers and is still shit. Or the one after. Or when he's been sold to some b-tier European team for 30m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    Finishing ability is way overblown most of the time. The absolute best (Messi) beat xG by about 15%, nearly everyone else is about 0-10% either way across their career with the occasional outlier spell.
    Nunez in a league of his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Yeah, but he doesn't convert. As he hasn't for any other part of his career other than one outlier season.

    I said he'd be shit before he came. He is shit. You mongs still want to argue that yeah ok he's shit but he definitely will be good.

    He won't.
    That's a very strong judgment regarding a fella who's only had half a season in the prem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Or he took a year to settle and then banged in goals for fun. It's all in how you want to see it.
    Opinions? I hope you haven't watched actual games to form those, that's amateur hour. Hopefully someone can hook you up with a definitive spreadsheet.

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    Can always rely on Everton to get confidence back into Liverpool not matter how shite the latter are.

    And there’s Coady handing Gakpo his first goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Opinions? I hope you haven't watched actual games to form those, that's amateur hour. Hopefully someone can hook you up with a definitive spreadsheet.
    Sorry, I'll revert back to players either having to be the best on the planet or they're just shit.

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    Gahahahaha look at our resident reddit expert try and discuss Nunez with xG stats to boot. Gutted I missed this.

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    I'm just a spreadsheet merchant but he's looked good tonight imo. xLiveliness off the charts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Gahahahaha look at our resident reddit expert try and discuss Nunez with xG stats to boot. Gutted I missed this.
    There's no discussion. I said he'd be shit. He's been shit. Until he stops being shit (which he won't) you can all chortle my balls

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    We can do what? Head's gone

    The football for both our goals was tasty af but it'll get lost in a sea of "tougher tests await". Gakpo has settled, Jota is back and once VVD replaces RL's brother from another mother, it's on

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    Time for our Bobby

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    Beautiful.

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    What a man.

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    Pickford would fold him up like a picnic blanket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Pickford would fold him up like a picnic blanket.
    Not with them little arms he wouldn’t.

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    Given the thread title... an update on the MIGHTY CITY.

    First three games of the season:

    Nam Dinh 1-0 Ho Chi Minh City
    Ho Chi Minh City 0-1 Hai Phong
    Ho Chi Minh City 0-2 Khanh Hoa

    Leaves us bottom of the league...

    Toggle Spoiler

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    Jesse Marsch to Southampton is splendid banter.

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    Southampton aren't the worst team in the league, but they do have the worst keeper by a country mile. Drop Bazuna and they'll have a fighting chance.

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    Jones very nearly did it early in play and bottled it. It's the first thing the new manager needs to do.

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    Basically we've scoured world football and discovered nobody even half decent wants the job (and I don't fucking blame them) so we've just called it off. This is probably, as much as I hate to admit it, the most sensible course of action we could take too.

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    Liverpool hillsboroughing the shit out of the UEFA thing already the shameless cunts

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    Check the squads for the Milan game. They'd be a poor sight for a Europa Conference League game let alone a CL game ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post


    Basically we've scoured world football and discovered nobody even half decent wants the job (and I don't fucking blame them) so we've just called it off. This is probably, as much as I hate to admit it, the most sensible course of action we could take too.
    Is this definitely a better option than just keeping Marsch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Is this definitely a better option than just keeping Marsch?
    I honestly don't even know at this point Jim.

    It looks like he's about to get the Southampton job though, doesn't it? So he's obviously going to spark a turnaround there and they will pass us in the league imminently. Nailed on.

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    Jimmy did it better.

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    Bit racist.

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    Whilst I guess it's due to the Queen dying and all, UEFA must be absolutely seething that Arsenal v City has been slated up against the Champions League games tomorrow night.

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    I did it better and a week ago, and still thought to myself afterwards 'that was a bit shit'. TTH content standards are unparallelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Liverpool hillsboroughing the shit out of the UEFA thing already the shameless cunts
    Not sure how Liverpool had any say in the verdict, but judging by your horrendous takes in the other threads I shouldn't be surprised you don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guybrush View Post
    Not sure how Liverpool had any say in the verdict, but judging by your horrendous takes in the other threads I shouldn't be surprised you don't understand.
    Say in the verdict? They’ve been hamming it up since the verdict

    Stop talking rubbish, and never use the word ‘takes’ like that again. You’re not an American sports presenter.

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    You are taking the heavy mong line on that one though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    never use the word ‘takes’ like that again. You’re not an American sports presenter.
    Have a word with your man.

    I'm a twit

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