Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
You can keep you mid pal.
You’re nae fooling anyone, Son.
You English lot get really worked up about a nation you don't seem to like wanting to leave you and go it on their own.
Or not wanting to, 55-45.
Yeah, if they're that keen to do it then by all means fuck off, but all the proposed exit packages seem to involve England continuing to subsidise them for 100 years, so no thanks.
I must have missed the addition of Scotch to the diversity monitoring form.
They're not racist, they fight against racism at every turn. We'd be in a real pickle if we didn't have them doing so.
Stop voting fucking tories in then.
Sorry lads, won't happen again.
I don't want Scotland to go, and it shouldn't be allowed to either. You could close Holyrood forever tomorrow and what would they do about it? The 'nationalist' core - university administrators, neckbeards, and nineteen year old Celtic fans who type in their accents - aren't going to start blowing things up, so they would just go back to voting Labour and moaning within an electoral cycle.
University administrators are nationalist?
I'm not overly arsed either way, but if they are going to leave (as has been said) it has to involve them going it on their own and not continuing to enjoy the bits they like. Which is another thing, the whole thing would be much more palatable if they were at least honest about the motivations and came out and said we're doing it because we don't like the English.
Speaking from my select Scottish sample, it's definitely more about wanting Scotland to be an independent nation rather than English hatred that drives the desire.
Old people are selfish cunts though.
Are you saying the "gammon" is right, Taz?
In other words, the 'safe and legal routes' are restricted to those people who need them the most (Syria, Ukraine, etc.), rather than literally anybody from somewhere shit. That sounds like a good system. Shame we can't actually implement it.
There’s a big revolt slowly brewing here on imports![]()
The Saj, plus 10 other Tory MPs, have announced they're not standing at the next GE. Why stand around to take a drubbing when you can go make bank in the private sector? God knows what weasels they'll cart out for the dead seats.
Saj would win Bromsgrove, so he's probably just had enough.
It could be really tight, Labour need such a massive amount of gains and there's still a while to go for Keir to bore people to death. Could end up being a Kinnock situation.
I think Labour will end up with a small but workable majority (current polls are stupid), but there is something to be said for the Conservative Party being annihilated. It needs to be completely re-built or replaced, like it did in 2019 before Dominic Cummings saved them, and if they hang on to thirty-five per cent then they will just tell themselves it was Russia and carry on being pointless.
Bromsgrove is probably in the top 20 safe seats. It's the 11 others that are most telling. For example, Dehenna Davison (current poster girl for Conservative) is quitting at the next election citing family reasons but she's in Bishop Auckland which is historically always red so it's obvious she's jumping before getting humiliated and ruining her prospects.
As Lewis said, the Tories getting pummelled would suit everyone.
It currently encompasses two main schools of thought: the Faragistas who want low immigration, low spending and low tax (cloud cuckoo land at the moment, but there we are), and the people like me who are conservative in the sense they don't want radical reforms and want the state to stay out of people's lives, but they do want the state to pay for things, and are also fine with immigration.
One of those needs to purge the other set out of the party, and the losers need to go and join the Lib Dems / Reform headbanger party (delete as appropriate).
Part of the problem is that the Brexit people have literally no vision for the country beyond 'low taxes', and the non-Brexit people have literally no vision for the country beyond 'Brexit is bad / save our NHS'.
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Nobody of any use of standing down by the looks of things. Sajid Javid is a 'Big Name', but he hasn't ever done anything useful for it, and he probably thinks he might as well go and make some money instead of being some backbench muppet, which, because we have to pretend is a full-time job, you just get shit for making money on the side.
There's some names in there, like Davison, who could be something down the line and are being touted as such. Everyone of note in the party these days is either in Cabinet (and stepping down whilst in that role is not a good look), a past name like May, or one of those mentalists who always garners enough votes to stay in by saying edgy shit in the papers or online like Fabricant.
Dehenna Davison doesn't belong in any party that claims to be even nominally conservative/right-wing, so that's one less melt to flush out in the re-build, which ought to proceed on actually being what they threatened to be in 2019 before cowardice and uselessness set in.
Brexit produced very few opportunities, or at least a lot less than we were sold.
And Labour probably will win now the Tories went into overdrive on the uselessness front.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63864192
This is some face turn he's attempting.![]()
"It was an extraordinarily aggressive email which was unnecessary really as I was prepared to give a PPE contract to literally anybody if they offered me a fiver."
Google trending searches informing me physios are now getting in on the fun and striking has tickled me. Where tf is this all headed? Presumably the majority aren't going to get what they want and they're not going to simply die down, am I gonna get my riots and thirst for anarchy met or what?
I saw that driving test examiners are on strike. Isn't there a massive backlog on driving tests because they all spent the entire pandemic doing absolutely nothing?
Your riots and anarchy will only come about when the shelf stackers and petrol station attendants go on strike.
Nazis did it first
He's gonna end up with a general strike on his hands trying to pull that shit.
It's interesting listening in my office, literally everyone is dead against all the striking sectors. No sympathy whatsoever for any of them and think their demands are unrealistic/naive and the country can't afford them. I thought there would be a lot more support. Not sure what the polling says.
Looked up the polling. Nurses and ambulance drivers have strong support, teachers it's closer to 50/50, and then there's little support for the rail people, postal workers and all the others, with driving examiners being the bottom of the pile.
If labrador puppies went on strike the public would be about 94% in favour.
Way too many "I'm alright Jacks" in this country.
The government briefs that the railway desperately needs reform because 'we need to get passengers back using the railway after covid'.
The head of the hospitality association said that the strikes have cost his industry £2.5 billion. Which is some feat because apparently no-one uses the train.
If they want more people using the trains employers are going to have to get back to a full office week.
The RMT have been striking regularly for any reason they can find for as long as I've been alive, to the common man it's pretty meaningless by this point. Everyone else striking for pay because of inflation is a lot more of a departure if we're talking post 1980.