Also: told you so.
No Spikey is right. It's already out there I reckon.
Where I live in Kent, whilst our cases per 100k is a tad on the fucking high side, our 7 day increase percentage is only 8%. Whereas in Bracknell/Surrey locations, their 7 day increase is at 80%.
I'm going to have a stroke from reading this thread.
Thank god I'm back in paeds. January is going to be appalling on the adult side.
Spoiler alert: no it won't be.
Been right the whole way through this thread.
The changes to tier four outside of the Christmas changes are going to make my work an absolute nightmare. Half the team will have to go back shielding and then we need to work out if we can do non essential works in people's houses and if we can travel from Portsmouth to Southampton and vice versa.
Glad we managed to just about avoid being moved up to T3 or T4 but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets changed again this month.
The whole country will be in tier 4 soon enough.
So you’re not sticking to the rules.
I'm a twit
People are obviously sticking to the rules so that’s bollocks. People that don’t are selfish weirdos, regardless of whether or not the government or rules are a shambles
Yesterday I broke the rules because the maskless man in the shop was basically standing on my heels in the queue.
In the same shop there was a group of 7 twenty-somethings that I very much doubt live together.
The entirety of my Facebook last night was post after post of "well Boris can fuck off if he thinks..."
People are not following the rules.
People will always break the rules. I’m just saying others are and probably the majority at that otherwise everywhere would look like London
You some kind of thicko? That's what we could have said about the North a few months ago when their rates were off the scale and the South was relatively low. This virus just works in geographical waves and takes time to spread. Peaks and troughs.
And this bollocks about oh kids in that area are worse than kids in other areas at rule following. Every area will have people that follow the rules and won't follow the rules.
"Boris can fuck off..." as if he's doing it out of spite.
Absolute children.
Look, I'm happy to pile in on incompetence when I see it, but I don't know what the government could have done differently here. Although I realise I'm saying that from the relatively luxury of tier 2, but that only means I'll be in tier 8 when the rest of you drop down.
We're utterly riddled with this fucker at the moment.
It's fine to be disappointed.
It's the "fuck the government for cancelling Christmas!" and the "should have just broken the rules all year then if they were going to take Christmas away anyway waaaaaaaah" and the "but Muuuuuuuum you prooooomiiiiiised" whining that is pathetic.
Not everything is someone's fault.
Believing there's a new strain.![]()
The change in restrictions are a bit shit. We were planning to go to my partner's family in Kent but obviously now a no-go. I'm disappointed as they usually put on a sick spread, and it's nice being out the country w/ pets etc. rather than being cooped up in a garden-less flat in a city, but it'll be first time my partner is away from her fam at Christmas and was therefore pretty upset.
Saying that, given the government's approach to restrictions / lockdowns, it would've been hard for them to justify allowing the Christmas relaxation go ahead. The incompetence lies in the ironclad commitments/promises they've previously made - promising a somewhat normal Christmas when the infection/transmission rates are volatile (+ impact of Winter on hospitals) made it an obviously reckless decision at the time. They were just hoping they'd be lucky and they haven't been. (Appreciate preparations needed to be made for the mechanics of Christmas relaxation but no need to tackle it so early and talk in absolute terms)
So yeah, mixed emotions. Bring on the middle of Spring.
Viruses evolving is a pretty standard thing. It's how we got off the hook wih Bird Flu IIRC, it just evolved to become less deadly.
RL's ability to evolve from an empty ward, free Easter Egg, triple overtime bragging doctor to a war weary, holier than thou doctor is more confusing.
It was brought over on the Gatwick drone.
What is the rationale of cutting back from five days to one? If a family member is infected, we are going to end up getting it off them whether we spend one day or five days together.
Because they wouldn't get away with none.
If everyone stayed locked in their houses for five days that would probably be true, but people will be going out to the shops and stuff.
So if one person goes to the shop and catches it they're bringing it home to three households instead of one.
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Limiting to 1 day probably limits family gatherings to people who are seeing each other anyway, where as 5 days would have Kiko and co. travelling long distances across different tiers to spend the week with family.
Looked up the single dose efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine out of interest and it's thought to be around 80-90% (although not conclusively proven) after 14 days.
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Do we have any idea why this new strain is more transmissible?
True, but I think even in tier 3 areas if you cant stay over night you're far less likely to travel and see people so it will be far less people passing it on.
I'm going to go to my parents house as I live a 5 minute walk away, I wouldn't go if I couldn't walk. Id rather stay home and have a few drinks.