NSW Premier "I call on all organisations not to interact with citizens from Melbourne at this stage," Ms Berejiklian said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...ourne/12383626
She backed accommodation owners and operators taking it upon themselves to bar Melbourne travellers, reiterating that vendors are "at liberty to accept or reject any traveller".
"I would definitely encourage organisations to consider who to allow on their premises and where they're coming from," she said.
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For what, tens of infections? You people are going quite mad.
All the Premiers have outed themselves as small time wankers.Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
It is all quite funny though.
Edit: By the end of the year we might need British intervention as we become more bitter about imaginary state borders.
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Locking down
Sama has had to go back to the office today and he's absolutely distraught. Enjoy it while you can.
Today is like those movie scenes of people huddling around the wireless for Churchill's address. It will be today, right? My God, we'll put the US' 4th July celebrations to shame. There'll be lines racked stretching from Land's End to John o'Groats (except it'll stop at Hadrian's wall cause fucking lol at MJ and Waff).
Distraught about having to go to the office, or just in general?
When I've spoken to him he's been quite enjoying not having to commute, etc. so probably the former.
Working from home looks like it's going to be permanent for me.
They're moving all the people that HAVE to work from an office into ours as it's easier to Social Distance. The other office is still not being used and it's rented, where as they own ours.
I can see them letting the other office go and sticking with this. They keep referring to working from home as 'the new business as usual' anyway.
Sounds like I could get 4 days a week home working whenever the office opens up
With everyone working from home, how long before companies realise that some people sitting out in Mumbai can do the same thing for a tenth of the cost?
This whole thing is a cost-cutting dream, that's for sure.
Thankfully my role involves home visits and court hearings, but yes, ropey ground for fulltime office plebs.
Problems will arise with it all in the long-run but hopefully this is the beginning of the collapse of the system. Hello UBI, my old friend.
UBI is the doomsday scenario, a total disincentive to work, the modern student lefty's wet dream.
I don't really get the left or right, I think I'd be more in the centre (possibly why I've grown disillusioned with labour tbh) but I don't support UBI for that very reason Jimmy although as I say that, I think if they did that at the beginning of this pandemic instead of these silly schemes then we'd be much better placed as a country to get the economy back up and running but it should only have been temporary.
I don't get government as for me it's not hard. Support in the bad times, invest in the good times and listen to the public, show some humility, admit to mistakes and stop politicking. Then it gets so much better in my mind.
Precisely why I tout it. You can chuck your incentivisation of work into the same bin as need for economic growth. We stand on the edge of the precipice and it is beautiful.
The lols when orgs give up their office space and come crawling back when their operation falls apart because people are mostly lazy, demotivated cunts.
Landlord's wet dream at those £££s.
Yep. It’s never going to work, the world isn’t ready for it yet.
The “keeping an eye on...” mentality is far from gone.
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It never will be.
Though I wonder if that 100% subordination works in Asia. Jim, do Koreans etc work from home or are they not trusted to?
Not a chance do they work from home. They don't even go there if they can avoid it. Home is for women to cook and raise the children.
There are plenty of technological ways to "keep an eye on" your staff if you want.
What are these? I'd be surprised if businesses didn't already have them in place.
They do. Mine does, anyway. But they're easy enough to play if you know what they're monitoring.
Definite potential for that in the long run I think. Thankfully I'm a specialist in a niche industry even native English speakers from the same industry have trouble grasping so would hope mine won't be outsourced.
Exactly. They can't monitor your own personal laptop at home can they? Or your smartphone? There's no way humans can be trusted to work from home unless their job involves self-sufficience (i.e sales) or 121 client dealings or something where you can work when you want for as much as you want as long as you hit target/deadlines etc.
The vast majority will be bored as fuck and will lose faith when they can't small talk or get a hold of people to ask questions.
I use a remote desktop on my personal laptop, but all they monitor is 'cases worked' and 'actions performed'. An action can be anything from sending a 1 line email to typing up 5 years of rent history for a court hearing. If I send 20 emails it looks like I've been busy as fuck.
Many probably don't yet as they weren't prepared for a massive shift to working from home but if they decide to go down that route on a more permanent basis, you'll probably see them being brought in.
There's software that can measure click rates, typing rates, what windows are active and for how long, eye tracking via a webcam etc.
Pretty much anything you do on a computer could be quantified and sent back to your employers.
This is the sort of stuff I was getting at.
EDIT: And what Boydy's decribed.
Nobody actually wants to work from home. They think they do, because they've had two months of it where you can't do fuck all else anyway, but as soon as things are back to normal people will be falling over themselves to get back into offices. I suspect it would be an even stronger urge at management level as well, since mass home-working would chew those traditional structures up.
It's properly short sighted when you hear businesses expert wankers talk about offices being closed. They may be in the short term, but as soon as everyone realises what a huge mistake that is they'll be back.
There's a balance to be struck, but working from home, all day, every day is dogshit. For both the employer and employee.
Djokovic has the 'rona.
At least he had a good time though.
Flexibility is the ideal. My last job let us do two days a week from home and that was a good balance. My current place (pre-lockdown) didn't have anything set in stone but would allow it now and again if you needed to and our managers here are sound anyway. We've been talking about having it as more of a thing when when we get back to normal though (probably along the lines of two days a week wfh) as most people quite like but don't want to be completely isolated too.
That's not new though - having low cost locations is a strategy well walked.
I think what could be new is having a dispersed workforce so you don't need as much office space in prime locations yet still can hire people from further away. I hope the wfh balance comes in rather than it being every day, the community aspect of remote working is completely lost.
Monitoring click rates OMFG.
4th July also a pretty big day on World Of Warcraft too. Can’t wait to collect all my Midsummer event rewards!
I'm a twit
Everyone is just feeling lazy and they want to still be able to watch Netflix all day. This will never catch on the way people hope.
Surely the thing with working from home is that, at least in professional/service industries, it works well once you have the necessary expertise to essentially be a consultant, but it doesn't work to actually get people (ie young people) to have those said skills in the first place. So you can probably have a proportion of your non-super-career focused (ie don't want to be the boss/partner/junior VP/whatever) mid-level pros on a semi-permanent WFH basis, but you also probably need a centralised corps to win work, supervise/train up the feckless n00bs and generally oversee the successful functioning of the business etc.
Also, the arse completely falling out of commercial property/major city markets will probably have catastrophic knock-on effects in terms of pension/investment exposures to said industry, not to mention all the ancillary jobs city centres support.
I worked from home for 5 years, and I was well and truly done with it by the end of it. It was great at first, but you really need the separation between your homelife and workplace. 1 or 2 days a week might be alright, but I much prefer being in the office.
My day has been split between my desk and the paddling pool.
I want to work from home.
We have a new girl starting next Wednesday. She comes from a non-housing background and will be trained by Skype whilst looking after her 2 kids.
I'm stressed out just by the thought of it.
Yep my missus place measure how long any inactive periods are on your computer - mouse or keyboard not moving and if it’s more than a couple of minutes they want to know why.
"I was on the phone"
Although luckily my place don't do that.
I think it’s more about being flexible. What this has proved for me is I can do a lot over the phone or via video call with clients. Then I can go to the office early miss the traffic do my 6/7 hours and then once that’s done do calls and stuff with clients in the afternoon from home rather than seeing face to face which makes me more productive and also gives me a better work-balance which is good.
Moving forwards I think I will only be doing client appointments in office or via video call and won’t be seeing people at their homes any more which is better for me.
The cricket community is currently in meltdown as, after we had been repeatedly briefed over the last few weeks and even up until this morning for a possible 4 July restart in some form, Boris has stood up in the Commons and said cricket is still banned because the cricket ball is 'a natural vector of disease'.
Meltdown notwithstanding, it is starting to look as though that may not actually be the position at all and he was just waffling bullshit that came into his head. #MyPM
You can get your hair cut? The Premier League can play football? But you can't play cricket?
Fuck me.
He’s making the old MayBot look more and more competent by the day at the minute.
We're right back at "I can't hug my nan but I can take her on the Vampire at Chessington"
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