I might get a Cecil Parkinson on my arse.
I might get a Cecil Parkinson on my arse.
I've just read this. I didn't agree with everything but it's pretty good.Originally Posted by Lewis
Not sure what you're on about "living your life like that".
On Corbyn, that's a predictably disgraceful piece from The Sun. And LOL at right-wingers who condone interference in politics and implicit threats of mutiny by the head of the armed forces (not the first one since Corbyn was elected).
I bet I know the bit you agreed with.
What bit?I bet I know the bit you agreed with.
The fascination with Corbyn is embarrassing. Concentrate on the guys in charge who are floundering about with tax credits, handing over the keys to China and struggling to get anything meaningful from the EU.
Chiefly his opposition to Thatcher, which is/was strong.
Would you stay in the EU no matter what he gets?
Well, yes, but I obviously come at it from a somewhat different perspective than him.
I think I will be voting to stay in the EU yes but I'll read the arguments before I vote.
There's going to be a joyous coming together of sections the hard left and right on Europe. We should arrange a party.
You must know the arguments already? I was just trying to ascertain why you would criticise what he's going to get from them (virtually nothing) when it will make no difference to the idealogues, anyway.
Corbyn is the chief alternative to said people in charge. 'Concentrating' on them is pointless unless something better is available, which plainly it isn't.
Concentrating on the alternative when the government is at the start of a five year term seems pointless.
Harold - I have an idea but I still would like to read it before I decide finally.
Holding the government to account for the policies it's actually implementing is pointless?
It's okay, 'John' from Dunstable hasn't told Corbyn to address that yet.
To which account precisely are you holding them?
Based on Kiko's argument you'd have been 'concentrating' on the Blair and Brown governments between 2005 and 2010 and thinking Cameron's Tories irrelevant until election time, which I'm sure everyone on the left was definitely doing.
They were. Is there something about being right wing that makes them so paranoid?
You do remember that Cameron only just squeaked into power due to some of the left splitting to the LiB Dems, right? Cameron wasn't even a factor outside of being consodered a lightweight.
What does that first sentence even mean? Their policies can be analysed and criticised whether you think there's a credible opposition/alternative government or not.
I can't remember 2005-2010 all that well but Cameron's Tories weren't getting anything like the shit Corbyn is getting.
It almost breaks my heart, this. As a UKIP supporter I can trump your perceived grievances.
Of course had Farage appointed known terrorist sympathisers (whilst sympathising with terrorists, himself) then I might have difficulty defending him.
I think the concentration on the opposition rather than the incumbent is massively different to the norm. I can't remember the opposition party leader getting so much grief especially with 5 years to run on a cycle. Cameron seems to be getting an easy ride considering the wave of crap that seems to be happening around him and the party.
Kiko is right. Just look at any news website - the coverage Corbyn is getting compared to other opposition leaders is bizarre.... especially so far out from an election.
Probably because he's a fucking mentalist who generates legitimate news stories without even having to do anything.
I get that but how many times can you fake insult about a bloke that surely has no relevance to whether our glorious leaders will win re-election? Easier to poke at him than take a look at the reality of the situation.
- Rising house prices
- Disregard for human rights or security by cosying up to China
-Tax credits being on the ropes
- Syria - do we don't we
- Migrant crisis - how many do we take/do we not take
-EU stay or go (what this guy is hanging his PMship on)
Just all seem infinitely more interesting than whether a guy bowed to a specific height. Maybe the Sun needs to wear two black armbands.
If Corbyn is so incompetent and unelectable on policy, why is it they feel the need to attack him personally on nonsensical things like how deeply he bowed?
Swing voters don't really care for policy, presumably.
That's because the opposition are exteremly different. The Conservatives are pretty boring.
I don't know what you're so worried about, anyway. The effects papers have is next to nothing these days.
Must say I do enjoy a newspaper who in record of law hacked the phones of dead soldiers and their families, so they could listen to them wubbing, getting uppity about how far a mans head tilts on Remembrance Sunday.
Not stricly political but it deserves an airing.
Going off the @hendopolis feed, everyone is leading with a picture of Camilla holding a knife looking angry. I don't have a clue what the story is even having seen 3 front pages but it's a great photo.
Orwell himself would be envious of such original satire.
Or well, it was worth a go.
David Cameron hasnt the faintest idea how deep his cuts go. This letter proves it
http://gu.com/p/4e4kq?CMP=Share_Andr...y_to_clipboard
You'd think that sort of thing would be more important than how low someone bowed.
Policies shouldn't be up for debate. Appearance is much more important.
Today is the final day of Alistair Carmichael's election court trial. In giving evidence yesterday he essentially said, "yes of course I lied, but it was purely politically motivated and not to protect my own reputation", which is essentially what he needs people to believe if he is to be found innocent, or whatever the term is in an election court. The law is essentially that political lies are A-okay but lying about the personal character of oneself or another candidate is not. Which seems ridiculous.
I don't think anything will come of it - and it doesn't really matter for him personally as he'd already said this would be his final term - but I think he'll have seriously harmed the Lib Dems position going in to the Holyrood elections next year.
(I know literally nobody here cares about Scottish politics, let alone local politics within Scotland, but this seems interesting in that it's such an unusual case)
What did he lie or not lie about?
He denied having authorised the leaked memo about Nicola Sturgeon supposedly telling a French ambassador she would prefer a Tory government.
The ultimate nimby.
Why do the Scotch want to stay in so badly? Wales are equally as shit and poor and shit, but they seem no more insistent on remaining.
Probably because they see it as a big plank of their post-independence strategy.
I think it's because the main arguments put forward so far for leaving have been focussed on immigration, which isn't much of an issue for Scotland.
The anti-EU sentiment is much stronger here, but that's almost entirely because of fishermen who are upset about quotas.
John Major coming out against the Tory cuts today. And they claim not to have moved to the right.
This is the sort of thing you'd never get with a John Major or even a Margaret Thatcher.
Oxford City Council might have a bit more to spend on the needy if they ceased in their mission to dig up every road and roundabout in the county and replace them with orange traffic cones.
I seem to recall neverending roadwork on High St for basically the entire four years I lived there.
Isn't Oxford officially the worst/most expensive/most pointless place to live in the UK?
Cameron is having a belter of a week - produces the lamest set of "demands" for changes to our relationship with Europe, which pleases absolutely no-one, fails to recognise the link between his cutting funding and closing local children's centres in his own constituency, and then buggers off from a conference on migration, the crisis that's gripping Europe, in order to schmooze the Indian PM on the latest round of his globetrotting.
What a miserable excuse for a leader he is
Well you can't exactly send someone else when you've got the leader of a state visiting.
I'm not the biggest Dave fan but to be fair, I think if any PM since the war had twitter and a load of baying shot-to-nothing opponents following their every move he wouldn't stand up any worse than the others.
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