TTH NFL Fantasy Football 2017 thread

[Gray Fox]

He stayed until 6th pick of the 2nd round. So someone got both Bell and Julio. I was looking at Julio, but there was only McCoy and Freeman left of those RBs who you'd be genuinely happy to have as your RB1. The guys who picked Brown and Beckham would also have gone RB so I took what I saw as the better option overall. I still ended up with a decent team:

QB - Luck
RB1 - McCoy
RB2 - Howard
WR1 - Evans
WR2 - T.Y. Hilton
TE1 - Kelce
TE2 - Ertz
K - Bryant
D/ST - Texans
HC - Pete Carrol

BN - Zeke
BN - Crowder
BN - Hooper
BN - Stafford


Had I picked 6th or 7th I'd have build basically a dream team. My only issue is I've got 8 rounds in before remembering the stupid player limits mean you shouldn't have more than 1 of each position with the same bye week. An issue because I've done this with all 3 skill positions.

[Dan]

We did our draft live today. This was the first round;

1. Johnson
2. Beckham jr
3. DeMarco Murray
4. Fournette
5. Brown
6. Tucker
7. Bell
8. Ajayi
9. Gordon
10. McCoy

I mean... come on.

He stayed until 6th pick of the 2nd round. So someone got both Bell and Julio. I was looking at Julio, but there was only McCoy and Freeman left of those RBs who you'd be genuinely happy to have as your RB1. The guys who picked Brown and Beckham would also have gone RB so I took what I saw as the better option overall. I still ended up with a decent team:

QB - Luck
RB1 - McCoy
RB2 - Howard
WR1 - Evans
WR2 - T.Y. Hilton
TE1 - Kelce
TE2 - Ertz
K - Bryant
D/ST - Texans
HC - Pete Carrol

BN - Zeke
BN - Crowder
BN - Hooper
BN - Stafford


Had I picked 6th or 7th I'd have build basically a dream team. My only issue is I've got 8 rounds in before remembering the stupid player limits mean you shouldn't have more than 1 of each position with the same bye week. An issue because I've done this with all 3 skill positions.

What a great draft Any way we can see the full board?

The guy who got Lev Bell AND Julio must have been crying with joy. As must the guy who took Justin Tucker, obviously.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Guaranteed points with JT.

[Gray Fox]

I can't post full results yet. The commissoner needs to manually enter our picks in, so it may take a few days.

[Gray Fox]

I've not done too bad in terms of player, whatsoever. My problem is Zeke and Shady both have bye week 6. I believe Hilton and Evans both share the same week off, as do Kelce and Ertz. I could perhaps do some trading, but the position limit makes that quite hard. Going 2 for 1 in a big trade seems like the ticket out. Only 30 WRs can be owned at any one time, so there are still plenty available in a position of good depth.

Players like Decker, Moncrief, Maclin, Marvin Jones, Allen, DeVante Parker all went undrafted and could easily be a bench option if not WR2.

I've done well to get 3 top 10 ADP players in one team, but honestly the only 2 picks that were in much question was Evans in R2. Obviously that's great value, but AJ Green was also still there and I'm wondering if he'll do better as he's in the team with less mouths to feed. The other one was taking Zeke in the 3rd. I've not yet asked the rest of the league if anyone had plans on him, but I get the nagging feeling I could have waited on him a little.

[Browning]

My first draft is this Friday and it's for my new Dynasty league. Going to be very interesting trying to balance drafting for now and the future. I'm pretty much set on taking Mike Evans in round 1 regardless of draft position (unless I'm first and can get ODB) but if he goes, I'll have to put some serious thought into it. I just think RBs are a much higher injury risk, and at his age it puts him above the other WRs... but by Friday I could have completely changed my mind.

I have the 5th pick in my main league draft and Mariota locked in as a Round 11 keeper. I know the guy in first will take David Johnson (he's a Cardinals fan) and I fully expect Rodgers, ODB and Brown to be the other 3 that go ahead of me, which is the nightmare scenario for me. If any of those 3 are there I'll snap them up (it's a 2 QB league so Rodgers is well worth it). If they aren't.... I'm probably looking at Brees or Julio, and I have no idea which way I'd go on that. Lev Bell is a keeper (in round 2), so he's not an option.

[Browning]

Also @bruhnaldo can you please join as soon as possible, we're under 2 weeks until draft time!

[Pleb]

I may not make it to 9:30pmGMT on draft day due to work commitments, can we try and move it to past 10pmGMT if possible?

[Browning]

Fine with me, any objections? Can't have Pleb on auto draft... he might do well.

[Browning]

I've just heard the Cheifs want to use Kelce like a WR. RIP.

[Dan]

Kelce to go ahead of Gronk then.

[bruhnaldo]

i got autodraft'd last year and i think i at laest made the playoffs

i'll sign up tonight, sorry again.

[Browning]

Kelce to go ahead of Gronk then.

On a normal team, yes. But on the chiefs "like a WR" presumably means forget he exists.

[Dan]

Good point

[Gray Fox]

All good with me.

Also @Browning I'd take Julio. You already have Mariota at QB, who I'd be happy with as my QB1 and you'd have arguably the best RB and a top 3 WR.

Actually suppose it depends, who is likely to be there in either position come R3?

[Browning]

Bell isn't my keeper, he's someone else's, so I don't have him.

The plus to taking Brees is I would be well and truly set at QB. QBs dominate this league, the guy who won it last year took Rodgers in R1 and Brees in R2. I'm leaning towards Brees if it plays out how I expect, especially because Brady and Ryan are both keepers. I'm happy with Mariota, but I need 2 starters.

[Browning]

I tried simulating both scenarios on Fantasy Pros, and obviously the realism isn't great, and I had to manipulate some picks.... but this was what I ended up with in the first 6 rounds (which gives me my 2nd QB, 3 WRs and 2 RBs)

Brees
AJ Green/Mike Evans
Freeman
Hopkins/Cooks
Robinson
Gurley



Julio Jones
Luck
Hilton
Demaryius Thomas
Demarco Murray
Crowell/Zeke

I don't see Zeke falls to there, and I'm not sure I'd avoid RBs that long... but that's roughly what I was looking at.

[Gray Fox]

Group 1 for me in that case.

Brees is much more likely to stay fit than Luck who is even injured now.

[Browning]

Yea, I can't read too much into it, because for example in draft 1 I got Freeman in Round 3 but he wasn't there in draft 2, and I'm not sure my pick would have impacted that, but I am leaning towards Brees at any rate. I wouldn't mind Green/Evans over Julio as much as being forced to settle for Luck over Brees.

[Dan]

Yeah, if you can get Brees & then still have Evans or Green that's definitely the way to go.

[Browning]

I'm not convinced that I can looking at it because the AI picks in between me taking Brees and taking AJ were:

Julio, Wilson, Nelson, Winston, Cousins and then the pick that will be Bell in my draft.

Can't see someone taking Nelson over Green/Evans so scratch one of them for that.... guess it just depends how much people panic on QBs once Rodgers and Brees go so early.

We shall see.

Dynasty draft may be moved to Thursday if I can get confirmation from 2 more guys.... if so...

[Browning]

One of my other leagues (I have too many... I need to cut some, probably this one) just released it's keeper list. Some of these....

My Team: Matt Ryan (13th) and Kirk Cousins (6th)
The Order: Tom Brady (5th) and LeSean McCoy (4th)
Ogre: Jimmy Graham (7th) and Isaiah Crowell (24th)
Killadelphia: DeMarco Murray (6th) (chose to keep only one player)
Rawls A Blunt: Derek Carr (9th) and Amari Cooper (4th)
Mordor Maniacs: Ben Roethlisberger (3rd) and Kyle Rudolph (25th)
Charles In Charge: Tyler Eifert (15th) and Michael Crabtree (14th)
Super Mariota Bros: Le'veon Bell (2nd) and Marcus Mariota (8th)

[Dan]

i got autodraft'd last year and i think i at laest made the playoffs

i'll sign up tonight, sorry again.

You signed up yet, Bruh?

[Browning]

59 minutes til my dynasty draft (Not that I'm counting....)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One of my dynasty drafts (a new one) seems to be going to be held this Saturday at 3:30am Spanish time (where I am until the second).

I've asked for a change but if it doesn't come I'll have to leave.

Not a fucking chance I'm letting a dynasty go on auto.

[Browning]

I've got the number 6 pick and the guy in 2nd has already told me he's taking Evans... unless the guy in 1 fails to take OBJ. Not sure what I'm hoping for now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://walterfootball.com/fantasyche...tional/Dynasty

That's what I use but search for some Dynasty rankings.

Bell is still that high because obviously you can keep him forever.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football...l-rankings-nfl

This again but I feel that he's downgrading a lot of rookies, whereas I personally upgrade them.

Dynasty can be a minefield.

[Browning]

Personally I think I smashed it.... but here's what I got (only an 8 team league):

Starters:
QB- Luck
RB- Bell, Howard
WR- Cooper, Hopkins, Robinson
TE- Henry
Flex- Watkins, Allen
K- Prater
DST- Carolina

Bench:
Derrick Henry, Kirk Cousins, Mark Ingram, OJ Howard, Corey Coleman, Ameer Abdullah, Mike Williams, Gio Bernard, Sterling Shepherd, Kenneth Dixon, Kevin White, Austin Hooper, Tyrod Taylor, TJ Yeldon, Jacksonville

Left it very, very late on Kicker and DST and have to make do with what was there.... but I think the team was worth it.

[Gray Fox]

Every time I see Bell I assume he's been around for ages. That he's still only 25 I just can't seem to take in.

That's a quality starting RB corps. I also like the pick of Hooper.

You seem to have done really well picking up a balace of being young and being good.

[bruhnaldo]

You signed up yet, Bruh?

FUCK. I'm gonna put a reminder on my phone.

When I get off work I forget all about it my bad.

[Browning]

You can tell they draft happened late and lasted until almost 1 by the fact I took Yeldon as my last pick forgetting he had lost the job...

Oh well I'll likely bin him off once waivers clear although I can stick luck and Williams on IR for the time being if I want to pick anyone up.

Let me know what you think when you get a chance Mahow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Went to leave the new dynasty league on my phone today and accidentally dropped my old one.

No idea what the owners email is so I'm fucked.

[Browning]

One of my dynasty drafts (a new one) seems to be going to be held this Saturday at 3:30am Spanish time (where I am until the second).

I've asked for a change but if it doesn't come I'll have to leave.

Not a fucking chance I'm letting a dynasty go on auto.

There was a guy in our league on Auto Draft.... but he turned up in the later rounds to grab some guys I've never heard of. His team is truly shite:

QB- T.Brady
WR- M.Crabtree, J.Edelman, T.Hill
RB- D.Murray, B.Powell
TE- J.Reed
Flex- T.Kelce, J.Maclin
K- Gostkowski
DST- Houston

Bench- M.Stafford, E.Lacy, A.Dalton, J.Doctson, M.Wallace, J.Conner, J.Williams, J.Kerley, T.Gabriel, J.James, T.Williams, A.Vinatieri, C.Boswell, Seattle, Dallas

[Dan]

I love that J. Williams could be at least three different players

[Browning]

Jamaal Williams, RB, Green Bay.

No idea.

Oh and in other news... the time between the draft finishing and me getting my first BS trade offer was about 1 minute. The guy I've mentioned before was telling me for ages in the draft that I should take Woodhead to "handcuff" Dixon (obviously, injured players need handcuffing big time). I passed on Woodhead for a few rounds after that (I believe he first mentioned him during round 21-22) and then he went and drafted Woodhead in round 24 and proceeded to offer him to me for Ingram, my round 12 pick. Yea..... that's gonna happen.

[Dan]

One of the three RBs they drafted this year because they aren't convinced by Ty Montgomery. I can't even remember who the third is (Aaron Jones is the second), but it's looking like there's potential for a Giants-esque backfield shitstorm there this season, especially when you consider they also still have Ripkowski, who will probably get some short yardage/goal-line touches.

[Giggles]

Barring injury Montgomery will get the vast majority of snaps.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

James Conner has a seriously brilliant story.

He was diagnosed with Hodgkin's Lymphoma whilst getting rehab for a MCL tear when he was 20.

He was still practising whilst undergoing chemo, finished in May last year (College offseason) and then played in all 13 games averaging 5.1 YPC with 16 TD's plus 14.4 YPR and 4 TDs.

Jamaal Williams is the only unknown there for me.

[Dan]

Doesn't Ty have the same sickle cell issue that John Brown has? He's having problems with fumbling & pass protection too, according to a few reports, and although you never really know how accurate those kinda things are, he did fumble almost immediately to start the preseason, and he's already got an injury.

The Jeremy Kerley pick in that team is a pretty bold one, I have to say

[Browning]

He may have to start Kerley now that Edelman died.

[Gray Fox]

Non-contact knee injuries are always bad news. You can see Edelman throw his leg up to avoid using it instantly.

Apparently Bruce Arians is starting to get the hump with Brown. I mean there's not a lot he can do. Just keep him about as he's a good weapon to have but don't expect him to be there every game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Joined a league that is in its 4th year and I get two keepers.

The first is obviously Julio but I'm not sure about the second, main options are:

Cam Newton
Martellus Bennett
Greg Olsen
Alshon Jeffery
Jameis Winston

Leaning towards Olsen or Jeffery.

[Gray Fox]

What rounds? Or are you using another system?

[Dan]

Edelman potentially out for the season, and now Spencer Ware has a sprained knee. Time for Kareem Hunt's ADP to skyrocket

[Browning]

And then Charcandrick West to get the gig.

[Browning]

I'll be able to add 2 free agents tomorrow, by placing Williams and Luck on IR. Any deep sleepers people recommend for a dynasty?

[Dan]

Any particular spots you're looking for?

Peterman is probably an okay shout if you're looking for another QB, and Brandon Allen could be a real speculative shot in Jacksonville. As for WR, ArDarius Stewart could be worth a look since someone has to catch passes for the Jets.

[Browning]

Not overly at this point, I'm happy with most of my positions, but never hurts to have a bit more.

According to Fantasy Pros, the top options for each position would be:

QB- Bortles, Mahomes, Tannehill, Flacco, Trubisky
RB- Foreman, Charles, McKinnon, Joe Williams, Dion Lewis
WR- Perriman, Smith-Schuster, Godwin, Samuel, Floyd
TE- Fiedorowicz, Everett, Butt, Shaheen, Green
K- Catanzaro (wouldn't normally include this.... but he's top 5 allegedly...)
DST- Bengals, Bills (both top 6... but supposedly the Panthers and Jags are 4 and 6... no idea how they arrived at that).

That said the players I consider most interesting right now are probably Hogan (if he's there.... may get waivered) and Robbie Anderson because, as you say, someone has to catch passes for the Jets, and given the PPR factor, he could be worth stashing to see how he pans out. A mate is convinced I need to take Garropollo (sp?) and wait on him but I'm not really fussed by that. Gordon is also an interesting one on the off chance he returns soon.

[Dan]

QB - Mahomes & Trubisky are both obvious long term plays at QB, and Flacco would provide you a decent alternative to Luck assuming he comes back in time to start the season. Jimmy G could be smart if you can get him, but he's looked a bit wobbly this preseason so maybe he's not quite as ready to be Tom Brady v2 as some think he is.

RB - Joe Williams is probably the one who could end up as a potential long term starter, but Foreman should be solid assuming he gets ahead of Alfred Blue, which he really should. Dion Lewis is a Patriot RB, so fuck knows what'll happen with him.

WR - Perriman is obviously the best play there in the short term, and I'd imagine Curtis Samuel is the best long term play, but none of them are particularly exciting in any format. Hogan is definitely worth a look with Edelman out, but again, it's the Pats so Amendola, Mitchell & Dwayne Allen are all just as likely to get the extra targets instead.

TE - Shaheen & Everett are both high potential players at TE, and Jake Butt has some hope around him too, but Fiedorowicz is a better immediate play.

Kickers are all the same unless you can get one of the three or four consistently good ones, and neither of those DSTs do much for me either. Jags DST is one for the future though, for sure, especially if they can get a QB who doesn't let the other team start every third drive in the Jags redzone.