The aftermath has been absolutely spectacular.
"I want my country back!!"
Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
The aftermath has been absolutely spectacular.
"I want my country back!!"
A.C. Grayling's twitter feed alone is mroe than justification for voting Leave.
The nerve of trying to speak with authority on the results of the next election
Doubt there's enough egg left in the country for a second round.
It's great isn't it
When someone has been following for this long, he knows. How dare you doubt that.
I must have missed Jeremy Corbyn winning the election, there.
Can someone link me?
I never called it. You, however, put your house and manhood on a Tory landslide. Nailed on with a new leader though, ay?Originally Posted by GS
Probably, yes.
The Tories ran the worst campaign in history (no exaggeration) and still won 50+ seats more than them.
I must have missed the Conservatives winning a 100 seat majority and Labour not winning an election for the next 30 years.
Absolutely bang on.
That's all very well but he's a recognisable figure who can make arguments for things in a way people relate to, you trot out Hammond or Rudd and it'll just be Theresa mkII.
As if on cue, he's put another blog up. Quite, quite mad.Hey, it's Brexit Day today. God that will never be topped.
Weren't you claiming that campaigns didn't matter, and predicting a large majority right up until the vote?
Yet your clairvoyance apparently has merit again now, because reasons.
Do you detect a whiff of fascism about him? His arguments ought to drive towards the government simply doing less, and having people fuck up on their own accord; but he seems overly obsessed with everything being run like the space programme.
'Not poems and rubbish. Science! So we can get everything working.'
I e-mailed him in February about his systems management blog to ask whether he had looked at financial aspects of it all (my theory being that we had much less trouble from a management perspective than the Americans building our missile because we knew what we wanted and they just pissed money everywhere), and he said it could not have been done under a 'normal budget'. Well, yeah. It's a crap example.
I'd say he is more of an idealist than a fascist. He never seems interested in practical politics of situations, he just wants everyone fired and replaced by nuclear physicists because he knows it would work better that way. I suppose if you enter Dom Cummings world and have us churning out 100,000 maths and physics grads a year from the education system, then you don't necessarily need the government to splash out on it at a higher level.
His Leave campaign was probably the most spectacular one-man donning in the whole of democratic history (they are getting like 38% without him), so I'm prepared to run with it all. He's probably minimum 50 years ahead of his time.
He makes me think of people like Malcolm Campbell throwing their lot in with Oswald Mosley because everything ought to have been done in land speed record time.
I'm sorry but...
Only GS could paint this result as positive for the Tories. It almost toppled the Prime Minister, for heaven's sakes.
I'm not painting it as a positive, you know. The manifesto was a clear turning point by being relentlessly negative and without a single positive policy to sell - and May compounded it by being dreadful. Their vote still held up, mostly - and they took huge swathes of the UKIP vote - but the relentless negativity of the dementia tax etc. drove people into voting for Labour where they otherwise wouldn't have. They chucked an increased majority through hubris and incompetence, although this largely seems to be the fault of May's core team overruling the actual campaign chiefs constantly.
The one mistake I made, which I'll admit to, was assuming that people would back away from voting for a terrorist-supporting communist. Clearly there are entire rafts of people in the country who don't understand what the IRA campaign was about (or Jez's quite abhorrent views on the subject), or who don't realise that socialism nearly destroyed the country. There's work to do to make these people realise the stupidity of what he stands for, but then you're up against promises of free tuition and HOPE so you're probably fucked.
In the end, it was much like the American campaign. Any competent mainstream Labour leader would have taken another 30 seats and become PM with a coalition of chaos and Cameron would have won a landslide. They were, and are, both dreadful.
Please, please stop trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Especially when it's as dumb as 'Owen Smith would have won more seats.'
I fear you don't fully grasp just how much of a lunatic Wor Jez really is.
Anybody voting for him will deserve to have their assets requisitioned on them, frankly.
It's also as if you don't realise why people are voting for him or how bad the Tories have been.
People swallowing his particular brand of economic lunacy as a solution would be very quickly disillusioned once he was in power for two years.
Food banks would look like a cakewalk once we started rationing electricity and telling the civil service only to bother coming into work three days a week because the infrastructure can't cope with anything more.
Again, there is insufficient understanding amongst the general populace about the damage which hard left philosophy has wrought everywhere it's been tried. That there are still ostensibly 'intelligent' people advocating it as a solution to anything remains one of life's great mysteries.
Fuck me
Apparently the reason Trump and Brexit won was because of the Left's arrogance in not understanding their policies and how the Left was astoundingly arrogant in thinking that 'had the populace been smarter they would have understood!
Then GS comes in with enough hypocrisy to cover all of Southern England.
The political classes of the left are routinely perplexed that people vote against what they see as their own self-interest. They can't understand why people from a working class background would vote for the Conservatives, or why they'd vote for a Trump who's going to cut taxes for the wealthy. They think that everybody should be behind them because it is obviously for these people's own interest. That's a criticism of the political class, not the voter. They're two separate issues.
However, perhaps what we've seen here are significant chunks of the electorate finally suspending critical thinking in the face of unashamed "pro-having cake and pro-eating cake" policies like stealing tax money from the poor to pay for Etonians and Oxbridge graduates to get free tuition.
Yes, the political classes of the left think poor people should vote for them en masse because they (the political class) think it is in the poor's self-interest to do so. That it's a stupid system discredited by precedence appears to have passed them (the political class) by, since it would inevitably impoverish everybody. It amazes me that supposedly intelligent people, aware of this precedent in every country where it has been tried, seem to think it'll be different next time if only it's done "properly".
Your failure to grasp the point is becoming routine.
One would think that getting things so badly wrong about voters might inspire a little humility. But no - you've simply moved from fanatically preaching one narrative to fanatically preaching another.
As I acknowledged, I didn't think so many people would be prepared to support a terrorist-supporting communist. It's clear there is work to do for the Tories, in terms of making people realise the basic economic argument isn't yet won. This is unfortunate, but can be rectified. As I further acknowledged, it seems clear that people voting for him don't know who the IRA are, what his view was, or why it should matter.
Regardless, that's quite some statement from a grown man continuing to advocate student union style socialist policies. One should be inherently suspicious of this sort of political outlook from anybody who isn't 19 - it suggests an inability, or indeed an unwillingness, to change one's mind regardless of fact. You've read a decent amount too, so you can't plead ignorance about the damage it's caused.
Either you don't know what I advocate, or you don't understand it and put everything to the left of Thatcherism into the same "Marxist commie" box.
I see. Your version of it all would be "done properly" and would thus avoid the inevitable tanking and desperate scrambling to prevent all-out collapse.
I'm surprised nobody has thought of "doing it properly" before.
My version of "it".
"It" presumably being some form of Leninism.
I'm advocating gulags and you're fucking going to one.
Enlighten us, then. Ideally with some historical or contemporary examples of why what you're proposing would work.
Dear bruhnaldo,
The only thing people are advocating is you add a little humility to your 'I know better than everyone exactly what will happen going forward forever because I understand politics and no-one else does' take.
I advocate an age cap on people over 60. Murder the lot of them.
'Corbyns Run'
I'd bribe a comrade to let me escape, although whether it would be better to do it during the Two Minutes Hate or the now-mandatory afternoon tea break is something I'd decide on the day.
I can't help but imagine the most British queuing.'Corbyns Run'
If everyone over sixty was done in the NHS budget could be about a third of what it is, so that might actually be the best bet for ever having a low spending/low taxing country again.
Free Hotpoint fridge for every retirement home.
GS, you really are something special.
Guys I found GS' twitter account.
We'll have to add on the Euthanasia costs, but otherwise we're golden #SaveOurNHS
Right, to be quite blunt about this I would be considerably less exercised by the Corbynista cult if it wasn't for his continued support for the IRA. His socialism is entirely secondary to this.GS, you really are something special.
Whatever anybody says, there is no explanation or equivocation, explicit or implicit, that can be offered which excuses his views or behaviour. To see his support for murderers repackaged as "helped bring peace to Northern Ireland" is genuinely offensive. To see him recast as some benign visionary ahead of his time is an affront.
Until people 'get' this, I'm not sure they will fully grasp the unpleasantness of seeing people fete him as some sort of hero. He's a cunt, and I don't really care what his views on austerity are.
Up the RA!
By the way, the irony of these Glastonbury wankers who were DEVASTATED by the Leave vote last year suddenly cheering to the rafters a man whose office actively sabotaged the Remain campaign is some fucking effort.
https://twitter.com/LaughingAtLefty/...56836567805953
dem tiddies doe
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