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    Baz in the Late Night Thread and somewhere else I've already forgotten.

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    Oh yeah, I did see that. I'm going to argue my use of it was more appropriate than Baz's.

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    Mine was animated though.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    That's the third time in a few days that picture has been posted, mix it up a bit chaps.

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    [gyfcat]InsistentUnpleasantCatbird[/gyfcat]

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    That Ian Dunt MELTDOWN Lewis was waiting for appears to have happened.

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    There doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary, which tells you all you need to know, so maybe there needs to be more stringent criteria.

    Has Nick Cohen re-tweeted it approvingly?
    *Yes*
    Has Alex Massie re-tweeted it approvingly?
    *Yes*
    Has that boring @twlldun cunt chipped in to win the approval of the aforementioned actual journalists?
    *Yes*
    Has somebody tagged J. K. Rowling in the replies?
    *Yes*
    Is he still bald?
    *Yes*
    MELTDOWN

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    I was referring to the 'sick and tired' tweet where he tells northerners to get down on their knees and be grateful, although didn't realise it was actually from yesterday. Still, someone from the Guardian still managed to spin a column out of it, so the mechanism still works.

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    The Kingdom of Northumbria could use its shale wealth to build a wall and leave London to the Muslims. Let's 'ave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Still, someone from the Guardian still managed to spin a column out of it, so the mechanism still works.
    In a long, long, long list of possible names, I think she is currently the most pointless commentator in the business (she also neglects to mention her school on LinkedIn, which usually means it was an expensive one).

    I had an idea for something like the 'Giles Coren Test' to judge the quality and worth of political commentators (the theory being that nobody in world history has ever come across a news item and felt the need to read his take on it, so their worth is relative to how far you would go to read their thoughts were they not pushed by like-minded editor twats) but really it should be named after her.

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    Having looked at that Ian Dunt fella's twitter and read his bio, I was just thinking there are far too many fucking pointless 'commentators'. Half the stuff you get is no better than tumblr drivel.

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    Owen Jones seems to be churning them out daily these days, which would at least explain why he has been too busy these past couple of years to re-visit his Venezuela articles.

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    Arron Banks is on the Seethe Shift tonight, and he's doing a bang-up job.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Liverpool Echo
    Many others got involved in the back and forth, including Charlotte Hennessy, who lost her dad James in the Hillsborough disaster when she was aged six. In response to Arron Banks’ tweet that Hillsborough was "an accident", she tweeted: "It was a completely preventable disaster caused by gross negligence that resulted in 96 people unlawfully killed. Actually."
    If you had to get all of that into one word, Charlotte, love, which would you use?

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    Taking on Hillsborough only ends one way.

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    It's pretty lol really. He says (albeit in his usual gobshite way) that people use it for political ends, doubles down on it, and then everybody proves him right by saying that UKIP done the Peterlooo Massacre. Still, he's got Tim Montgomerie (another boring cunt you would never seek out if his prominence vanished) crying into his Babycham, so whatever.

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    His comments would be fine if it weren't for the fact that the bloke he's bankrolling thought it was important enough to pretend his mate died in it. This Nuttall bloke comes across as a bigger retard than anyone else they've put up yet.

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    Yeah, dear old Nigel is actually a political and intellectual colossus when you look at the rest of their offering.

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    You couldn't vote for Nuttall, really. You'd think it would be almost impossible to row back from this sort of fundamental dishonesty.

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    Have you seen Politics in the last few years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Have you seen Politics in the last few years?
    It's not like he can claim context, change in circumstances, new facts coming to light, being misled by staff etc.

    He made this claim in 2011 as well. It's outright, fundamental dishonesty. It'll stick more than, as an example, John McDonnell deflecting criticism of his past comments on the IRA.

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    Inspired by ol Donny Nigel Farage has gone on a bit of a mad'n on Twitter. I thought I voted yes or no to remain in the European Union but apparently I was voting for fishing rights. Weird.

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    It's difficult to articulate just how utterly dreadful the key political players in Northern Irish politics are now. Not that we were laden with political heavyweights in the past, but the dearth of politicians with genuine ability is fucking galling.

    Arlene Foster continues to show herself up in a way that you'd genuinely be better just shutting the entire devolved administration down than letting her back in.

    I saw a poll that had the DUP down by 3.3% to potential second place behind Sinn Fein, which would be fucking hilarious. She's already resorted to name-checking Gerry Adams several times to try and scare everybody that ONE OF THEM might end up in charge. It's only a matter of time before the "Keep Arlene F1rst Minister" posters start going back up again.

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    Regional bollocks on Question Time. Ugh. Loads of bitter Scots we should really be binning off at the same time as the European Union.

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    Not just regional bollocks - it's from fucking Glasgow.

    The SNP's flagrant hypocrisy should see them routed, yet there they sit on 47% in current polling estimates. I suspect a significant number of them have drunk the kool-aid so deeply as to be literally irretrievable to a position of sense.

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    I knew what that was going to be before I clicked on it.

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    Somebody somewhere has taken sixteen million remain voters, assumed that they all desperately want another crack at it, and then - because they are obviously an idiot - decided that only Tony Blair ('He won three elections!') can entice the other couple of million needed to make it a reality. If you ever wanted a working definition of a Proper Political Man, the extent to which they fail to recognise just how discredited he is would be something to go off.

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    He could maybe win another election but he couldn't overturn Brexit.

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    He's deranged, and the newspapers would pull him to pieces if he made a proper return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    He could maybe win another election but he couldn't overturn Brexit.
    No, he couldn't.

    His disapproval ratings are so horrendous that you'd struggle to find anybody within the political mainstream who's as toxic. He's at about -60 personally, and his time as PM is -27 or -28.

    There's also "but Iraq, mate", which renders him a mess. He's finished as a serious figure, and he'd be massacred at the polls if he tried it.

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    Isn't this him trying to launch the Liquid Lunch With A.C. Grayling Party?

    Or whatever else they have in store to replace Labour. 'New Labour' is quite a good name.

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    I'd rather vote tory than a Labour led by Blair.

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    I still fail to see how he'd do worse than Corbyn.

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    I'd probably vote for Blair ahead of Corbyn, to be honest.

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    I'd vote for Tony ... maybe. The brexit stuff is a bit annoying now, though. Have we had any straw polls on it since the vote? The only way a re-run would feel correct is if public perception had changed significantly.

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    The polls all suggest that no one on either side has really changed their view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I'd rather vote tory than a Labour led by Blair.
    No you wouldn't. Unless living in London and working in the City really has got to you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I still fail to see how he'd do worse than Corbyn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    I'd probably vote for Blair ahead of Corbyn, to be honest.
    Exactly.

    Not that I'd vote for Blair ahead of Corbyn but I imagine there are a lot of people who would.

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    Tony Blair would get more joy if he just put '1997' up on kickstarter.

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    The thing that seems to have been completely forgotten about Blair is that he/his team were fucking good at politics, which won't have changed overnight, no matter how toxic the polls (rofl) say he is.

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    They may not have changed but the world has. If a fresh, baggage-free Tony Blair rocked up now he'd still be laughed out of town as a fake. In the 90s, people were willing to buy into the fake.

    There's 20 years of fatigue at the Alastair Campbell, Peter Mandelson style of doing things.

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    "Iraq, mate" should have been the end of his time.
    I'm a twit

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    Even if it was Blair v Corbyn, I'd rather spoil my ballot.

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    It kinda was, Baz.

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    He's in the news today.
    I'm a twit

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    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2c...RkRjhvU2s/view

    42% of Remain voters want the government to get on with it - only 33% disagree. It's done now. If you ran it again, Leave would win by a much bigger margin.

    I maintain that we'll look back in a few years' time and be amazed it was only 52%.

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    I'd count myself as part of that 42%. It's done lads, lets just let the government get on with things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    No you wouldn't. Unless living in London and working in the City really has got to you.
    London is red mate.

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    Only parts of it. And people working in the City don't tend to be.

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