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    I found it amusing that Oxford Dictionary's word of the year is "post-truth".

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    'Post-truth' is a complete fiction of a concept, borne as everything is these days out of the moral high ground that the liberal left thinks it has. People have always voted in elections based on things other than facts and statistics, and there is absolutely no reason why they should be expected not to.

    'Evidence-based' means nothing more than 'Agrees with me'.

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    There's a difference between what you say above and

    "I never said that"
    "I'm directly quoting you"
    "Never said it"
    "Here's video of you saying it"
    "Nope"

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    Everyone should watch HyperNormalisation on iPlayer.

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    I thought it was a bit crap tbh. It felt like he turned that 5 minute piece from Newswipe about Putin into a 2 hour documentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Mert, you have seen this, rigth?

    https://xkcd.com/1732/

    If you don't think that's a good source for these things, which I suppose is fair enough, you can have a look here:
    http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/


    It's a bit funny how someone like Trump wouldn't even trust NASA on the topic, one of the US' staple "American & Proud" institutions.
    NASA has been captured by life-time academic shills like Ital who buy blindly into the progressive narrative because it gives them a sense of belonging and acceptance for the first time in their nerdy lives.

    These people are all liars and partisan hacks. I will be vindicated just as I was with Trump, but sure keep deluding yourself. Sweden will cease to exist as a country with a distinct people within 20-30 years anyways so you are irrelevant / will soon be annihilated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Ah, the joys of a post-fact political landscape.
    You mean like the fact that Obamacare would work (even though we said it wouldn't) or that all the polls showed Clinton winning in a landslide (there wasn't a single 'reputable' polling company that predicted a Trump victory) or that mass immigration would help the economy or that multiculturalism was a positive and enriching development for Western societies?

    Those facts? The Left is completely discredited, their 'facts' are nothing more than emotional assertions of what they wished Reality would emulate.

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    Has Ital come out as gay/female yet?

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    Arrhenius figured out climate change in 1896. He's been shown correct repeatedly ever since.

    There's another one where we went through all this climate trolling before. In the interests of not doing it all over again, take it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Arrhenius figured out climate change in 1896. He's been shown correct repeatedly ever since.

    There's another one where we went through all this climate trolling before. In the interests of not doing it all over again, take it there.
    "[Arrhenius] was a board member for the Swedish Society for Racial Hygiene (founded 1909)..."

    So you're relying on Nazis / eugenicists to make your arguments for you now Ital?

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    You called a Nazi an American patriot the other day so you're on at best equal footing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    You called a Nazi an American patriot the other day so you're on at best equal footing.
    Please find me any quotes Bannon has made which are racist in nature. I can wait.

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    Denmark to up military spending, PM says after Trump call:

    https://www.google.com/amp/uk.mobile...?client=safari

    What happened to the cucks saying threatening to leave NATO was insanity, seems to me Trump was 100% right? Lol at the Left / professional politicians / dishonest media, just utterly and completely discredited.

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    I'm on 2g can someone Google Steve Bannon Asian CEOs please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    "[Arrhenius] was a board member for the Swedish Society for Racial Hygiene (founded 1909)..."

    So you're relying on Nazis / eugenicists to make your arguments for you now Ital?
    That's some top Ad Hominem right there.

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    Like hygiene optional Turks will survive Trumpamania

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    Like hygiene optional Turks will survive Trumpamania
    I am 0% ethnic Turk try harder sub-human

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    Really? You don't look white. What are you?

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    I've got a mate who is 100% white and claims he's black because his Grandmother is from Surinam. I'm assuming the same thing here. IIRC though his Dad claims he's Albanian or something far more respectable.

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    Armenian Kurd I believe he said.

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    Ah yeah, the Kurd thing makes his love for the Turkish flag completely understandable.

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    He's a cluster fuck of confused ideologies so at least he's consistent in his inconsistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    Really? You don't look white. What are you?
    Circassian (but "Kurdish" because that's where the ruling class comes from ethnically) + Armenian

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    My 'Make America Great Again' cap fits beautifully, just in case anyone was wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    Circassian (but "Kurdish" because that's where the ruling class comes from ethnically) + Armenian
    Yep Kurdish is loads better. You'll be fine with the racists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    Yep Kurdish is loads better. You'll be fine with the racists
    I have no Kurdish ethnic background. My dad was blonde as a kid and has green eyes, my grandmother is blonde blue eyed. My Armenian mother is much darker than my dad. I'm considered White in America, most people assume I'm some sort of Eastern European/Jewish/Italian mix.

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    You looked thinner and less foreign in the first pic.

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    Them fucking boots.

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    Anyone who refers to their relatives exclusively in eye colour is definitely a war criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Anyone who refers to their relatives exclusively in eye colour is definitely a war criminal.
    My name sake:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkan

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    My 'Make America Great Again' cap fits beautifully, just in case anyone was wondering.
    Wear it to the next meet. I saw someone with a 'deplorable as fuck' tshirt during the weekend. Considering how close we were from campus, at least a thousand persons must have been 'triggered.'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Them fucking boots.
    Proper frat.

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    I once wore this shirt to a small social gathering of my peers, but it was a safe space:


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    Post a pic of you wearing it.

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    I thought asking for quotes pointing out Bannon was a neo-nazi was weird seeing as it's quite clear. Him then citing his father as not the wrong sort due to his hair and eye colour. Christ. What happened in the last 10 - 20 years or so to cause this? It's definitely not the war stuff because Henry Kissinger and John Bolton are being considered the norm. What happened?

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    Lol part 2 million:

    November 17, 2016

    Mark S. Wrighton, Chancellor
    Holden Thorp, Provost

    Dear Chancellor Wrighton and Provost Thorp,

    In the wake of the recent Presidential election, we - the undersigned students, faculty and workers – urge you to take immediate action to make Washington University in St. Louis a sanctuary campus for students, staff and their family members who face deportation or are otherwise made vulnerable by President-elect Donald Trump.

    The President-elect has campaigned on promises to deport millions of undocumented immigrants, which poses an imminent threat to members of our university community. In addition, Muslims, black people, LGBTQ* people, people with disabilities, and all people of color have been subjected to an increase in hate crimes and are in need of protection. With many of our classmates, professors, and workers under unprecedented risk, now is the time for action. We call upon the University to immediately create and implement a protocol for making itself a sanctuary campus.

    Washington University has prided itself on a commitment to diversity and inclusion. Our mission statement promises to welcome students, faculty and staff from all backgrounds to create an inclusive community and a campus accessible to all. This past week, Chancellor Wrighton pledged in a university-wide email to “continue to make progress in enhancing diversity in our community and in creating an environment where all feel welcome.” Students across the country are calling for their universities to be made sanctuary campuses. We urge the University to take heed of the Chancellor’s words and lead by example.

    A 2011 internal memo from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) places restrictions on officers from entering sensitive locations, such as college campuses. Specifically, arrests, interviews, searches, and surveillance are prohibited from occurring at sensitive locations. This memo gives the University a unique opportunity to protect its undocumented community members from law enforcement. We urge the University to investigate these regulations and declare itself a sanctuary campus.

    https://www.ice.gov/doclib/ero-outre...9.2-policy.pdf

    We write in solidarity with undocumented and otherwise endangered members of our community and with students across the country who have called upon their schools to take similar action. As Chancellor Wrighton stated, Washington University in St. Louis “has been a place where knowledge is unearthed, problems are identified and solutions are found.” We hope our university will take immediate action to uphold its commitment to diversity, inclusion, and the public good by protecting the safety of all members of our community. We look forward to working with you to develop such measures.


    Signed,
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...requested=true

    Meanwhile the efforts to create a student union go largely ignored. Talk about misplaced 'liberal' ideals.

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    THE DONALD is coming to get us!

    *pisses his pants.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    "[Arrhenius] was a board member for the Swedish Society for Racial Hygiene (founded 1909)..."

    So you're relying on Nazis / eugenicists to make your arguments for you now Ital?
    If you can't play the ball...

    Plenty of great science was done by awful people. Arrhenius was probably the first scientist to really understand what an acid is. Smart dude.


    EDIT: My old boss once reviewed a paper written by a convicted murderer. Fun fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    NASA has been captured by life-time academic shills like Ital who buy blindly into the progressive narrative because it gives them a sense of belonging and acceptance for the first time in their nerdy lives.

    These people are all liars and partisan hacks. I will be vindicated just as I was with Trump, but sure keep deluding yourself. Sweden will cease to exist as a country with a distinct people within 20-30 years anyways so you are irrelevant / will soon be annihilated.
    Distorting opinions based on evidence is one thing- actually questioning the statistical evidence itself is quite another. Together with the fact that some 98% Climate Scientists are in agreement on this - you aren't winning this one, with Trump or without him.

    Surely you accept with the numbers being presented - which, assuming you do (only an idiot wouldn't), you therefore accept/agree that there is a substantial anomalous increase during the past 40 years and that something has to be done to counter this regardless of whether it is man-made or not.... we can't just sit by and observe this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    EDIT: My old boss once reviewed a paper written by a convicted murderer. Fun fact.
    Something you aren't telling us, Ms Ital?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Lol part 2 million:

    Meanwhile the efforts to create a student union go largely ignored. Talk about misplaced 'liberal' ideals.
    Goddamn dude. "Sanctuary cities" is a shit name but it's a totally justified type of protest if you believe that deportation is a fucked up policy proposal. It's actually something with tangible benefits, and at the very least forces local governments to make a decision about how closely theyre going to follow federal laws. Don't lump it in with all the other shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    If you can't play the ball...

    Plenty of great science was done by awful people. Arrhenius was probably the first scientist to really understand what an acid is. Smart dude.


    EDIT: My old boss once reviewed a paper written by a convicted murderer. Fun fact.
    For the record I don't think it discredits his work at all, that was just the times. I also think that while there is a strongly political component to the promotion of the global warming agenda ...there probably is some truth to it. However, instead of crippling our industries we should look into technologies which convert CO2 into oxygen, and, I believe the reason why that pathway of development isn't promoted is because of special interests within the 'Green Energy' field, combined with the fact that it doesn't offer the Left a means to redistribute wealth / expand their power through intervention into the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokbull View Post
    Goddamn dude. "Sanctuary cities" is a shit name but it's a totally justified type of protest if you believe that deportation is a fucked up policy proposal. It's actually something with tangible benefits, and at the very least forces local governments to make a decision about how closely theyre going to follow federal laws. Don't lump it in with all the other shit.
    How is it any different than states refusing to issue marriage licenses? Refusing to implement and enforce federal law is neo-Confederate treason, simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Distorting opinions based on evidence is one thing- actually questioning the statistical evidence itself is quite another. Together with the fact that some 98% Climate Scientists are in agreement on this - you aren't winning this one, with Trump or without him.

    Surely you accept with the numbers being presented - which, assuming you do (only an idiot wouldn't), you therefore accept/agree that there is a substantial anomalous increase during the past 40 years and that something has to be done to counter this regardless of whether it is man-made or not.... we can't just sit by and observe this.
    That figure has been debunked many times over as a hoax. Why believe an industry willing to go to such lengths to obfuscate the truth by spreading outright lies? Why not simply let the facts speak? They have an agenda, plain and simple, the sort of personalities that self-select to specialize in environmental science are radical, anti-growth, elitist hippy types. They are not to be trusted as demonstrated exhaustively by their unethical conduct time and time again.

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    'Why not let the facts speak?'.

    Because the majority of people - both you and I included - have nowhere near the level of understanding needed to be able to sit there and dig through pages of un-interpreted data.

    Also, if you think your side doesn't have an agenda then... well... FUCK.

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    Mert, you're a jock that's no good at sport so you joined the Young Republicans just to have a team to cheer for the rest of your life. That is cuckness.

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    Watch your mouth. He could play in the NBA.

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    It's a sure bet that the cabal of vegan, sandal-wearing hippy climate scientists are using nefarious tools such as "journals" and "empirical, peer-reviewed evidence" to try to beat down the poor, misunderstood, and certainly not rapacious shitweasels, in the oil/gas conglomerates and Arab sovereign wealth funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    That figure has been debunked many times over as a hoax. Why believe an industry willing to go to such lengths to obfuscate the truth by spreading outright lies? Why not simply let the facts speak? They have an agenda, plain and simple, the sort of personalities that self-select to specialize in environmental science are radical, anti-growth, elitist hippy types. They are not to be trusted as demonstrated exhaustively by their unethical conduct time and time again.
    You must be trolling.

    If you aren't..... all these scientist (like, 98% of them, on all sides of the political spectrum)... what is the benefit from this great conspiracy? What is the end game for them? They can't all have shares in Wind Power projects.....

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