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    I think you might need to just calm down a little.

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    So Seb... I mean, Mert is having breakdown.

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    Aww, is the little rich boy having a meltdown?

    Eat a Snickers Mert, or ten as that about seems to be your level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    Democrats do the exact same shit. Welcome to politics. Why can't Democrats put aside their political differences and take the loss for the greater good? It goes both ways as difficult as that is to comprehend for someone consumed by their own dazzling lack of perspective and awareness.


    I love the disconnect between these two sentences. The Democrats are the bigger shits for not passing a bill to fight a disease which affects unborn babies in horrible ways after the Republicans attached a rider which would effectively increase the number of unborn babies at risk in the meantime, and Ital is the one with a lack of perspective. Top stuff, Mert. Really.

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    He's 100% going to win, as I've been saying for months now. You don't know America.
    The reverse here is that if he doesn't win, you don't know America. I'll take that trade.

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    So Gary Johnson just tanked his campaign:

    https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/stat...51435477762048

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post


    I love the disconnect between these two sentences. The Democrats are the bigger shits for not passing a bill to fight a disease which affects unborn babies in horrible ways after the Republicans attached a rider which would effectively increase the number of unborn babies at risk in the meantime, and Ital is the one with a lack of perspective. Top stuff, Mert. Really.



    The reverse here is that if he doesn't win, you don't know America. I'll take that trade.
    They are equally shitty, with the only difference being that the Republicans actually have a mandate to govern because they control the House and Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I think you might need to just calm down a little.
    Lol pussy, I just insulted your entire self worth and that's the best you could come up with? Truth hurts I guess.

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    Mert you are the reason for the collapse of western civilization

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    They are equally shitty, with the only difference being that the Republicans actually have a mandate to govern because they control the House and Senate.
    They're not equally shitty. If I want to give you some cake but the bakery man will only sell me the cake if I give him my eyes and legs, so you get no cake, who's the bigger arsehole? Me for not 'taking the hit' so you can have cake, or the bakery man who's attached irrelevant and unreasonable demands to what should be a universally agreeable and nice thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    They're not equally shitty. If I want to give you some cake but the bakery man will only sell me the cake if I give him my eyes and legs, so you get no cake, who's the bigger arsehole? Me for not 'taking the hit' so you can have cake, or the bakery man who's attached irrelevant and unreasonable demands to what should be a universally agreeable and nice thing?
    If your child is starving and the baker will only give you bread if in return you have to pay a somewhat inflated but still very much affordable price for the bread, and then you refuse to pay it out of principle, you're just as much of an asshole as the baker who is using his justified leverage in the situation to make a larger profit.

    See I can make metaphors too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Mert you are the reason for the collapse of western civilization
    Yep because holding people accountable for their actions and telling the Truth is the issue in the West

    Ital has been exposed many times in this thread for being absolutely ignorant on the issues and yet still persists in his delusional tone of haughty authority and faux impartiality. He deserves to be called out every time he spews his nonsensical partisan bile.

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    What a baby.

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    Saw an interesting graphic on the news the other day, and it was polling results of Caucasian university students in swing states. They were also comparing the polls to what Romney did in 2012 and Trump is getting crushed apparently.

    I've heard so many people say that they'll vote Trump because Hilary is just god awful and that's in a strong democrat state.

    Can't wait for election night, personally. So many people are riled up so the fallout either way should be great viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post


    What a baby.
    I know you're incapable of engaging in substantive discussion due to your severely limited intelligence, that must be tough, I'm sorry.

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    Ital v Mert. Loser leaves the board.

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    I've always found the scuppering of the lifesaving treatment for babies act by tacking on riders like free stuff for nonces to be a fascinating feature of the American political system. I don't really understand the mechanics of how it happens, but does it really happen anywhere else? I assume there must be some kind of threshold to be able to do it, or you'd just have some lone crank ruining every piece of legislation ever brought in front of Congress.

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    It's party politics. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often elsewhere, trying to shoehorn the entire opposition party platform into any old bill. Who would stop them?

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    If the only way you can get your shit enacted into law is to tack it onto something so important it just has to pass that doesn't say much about the quality of your legislation. Doubly so if you have a majority.

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    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...-cybersecurity

    When asked about the threat of cyberterrorism, Trump responded with such excellent insights as “the cyber is so big”. Gulp.

    “Well that’s it, and, you know cyber is becoming so big today. It’s becoming something that a number of years ago, a short number of years ago, wasn’t even a word. And now the cyber is so big. And, you know, you look at what they’re doing with the internet, how they’re taking recruiting people through the internet. And part of it is the psychology because so many people think they’re winning. And, you know, there’s a whole big thing. Even today’s psychology, where CNN came out with a big poll, their big poll came out today that Trump is winning. It’s good psychology.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    So Gary Johnson just tanked his campaign:

    https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/stat...51435477762048
    He always looks/sounds away with the fairies, but his answer was better than what you usually hear (plus the bloke did pronounce it 'a leppo').

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    He just fucking rambles. It's great fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He always looks/sounds away with the fairies, but his answer was better than what you usually hear (plus the bloke did pronounce it 'a leppo').
    How do you pronounce it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    If your child is starving and the baker will only give you bread if in return you have to pay a somewhat inflated but still very much affordable price for the bread, and then you refuse to pay it out of principle, you're just as much of an asshole as the baker who is using his justified leverage in the situation to make a larger profit.

    See I can make metaphors too.
    You really can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    ...the President is always largely a figurehead, it's his broad platform that receives a mandate from the people.

    What planet do you live on where democracy doesn't work exactly how I just described it anyways?
    Right, well if that's the case then why do your mob hate Obama so much? He's just a figurehead, after all.

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    He's 100% going to win, as I've been saying for months now. You don't know America.
    Neither do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Right, well if that's the case then why do your mob hate Obama so much? He's just a figurehead, after all.
    Don't blanket all people under mert. Ask mert questions about mert's opinions. mert does not speak for me.

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    By the way if the Republicans want to defund 'Planned Parenthood' and control both the House and the Senate, why don't they just introduce a bill to do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    How do you pronounce it?
    I would say 'Ah-leppo', like how we (correctly) say 'Ah-dolf' instead of A-dolf', but I've no idea what it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    You really can't.
    Your metaphor doesn't work.

    See I can just make pointless statements too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    By the way if the Republicans want to defund 'Planned Parenthood' and control both the House and the Senate, why don't they just introduce a bill to do so?
    It would be vetoed by Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Right, well if that's the case then why do your mob hate Obama so much? He's just a figurehead, after all.
    .
    Because Obama appoints his advisors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    It would be vetoed by Obama.
    How common are Presidential vetoes?

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    Because Obama appoints his advisors.
    Has Trump made any changes to that economic advisory panel he put together with no economists on it?

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    Trump must be to Putin what Gorbachev was to us, except unwittingly so. Not that I think there is destined to be some eternal struggle with the Ruskies that defines the global order, but it would be nice to keep politicking and not jizz all over their establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    Because Obama appoints his advisors.
    Beyond parody.

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    Election Night shall be henceforth known as Mert Watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I've always found the scuppering of the lifesaving treatment for babies act by tacking on riders like free stuff for nonces to be a fascinating feature of the American political system. I don't really understand the mechanics of how it happens, but does it really happen anywhere else? I assume there must be some kind of threshold to be able to do it, or you'd just have some lone crank ruining every piece of legislation ever brought in front of Congress.
    It has always been prevalent. In the Senate the threshold has nearly always been individual but it was primarily used to get things for your district by burying it in an appropriations bill. When Gingrich flipped running for parliamentary reelection by what have you done for party instead of district the process became weaponized. Really, this election shows the strains of the 20 odd years of Clinton / Gingrich taking over their respective parties. It has been a long cycle and hopefully the parties have to evolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    Lol pussy, I just insulted your entire self worth and that's the best you could come up with? Truth hurts I guess.
    You did a perfectly good job of making yourself look ragged without me piling on. Your statement said nothing about me, but a great deal about you.

    I didn't feel the need to add anything, because you shot yourself so perfectly in the foot; that you don't seem to have noticed is largely immaterial.

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    Have I just heard this correctly? Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in US history, and also immigration has pretty much dropped year-on-year since he got in power? I had a quick Google, however, it seems to be a semantic clusterfuck.

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    Yeah that's not true

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    I can't actually find decent/hard figures. I have found this;

    According to current figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the federal agency responsible for deportations -- Obama has removed 1.4 million people during his 42 months in office so far. Technically, that's fewer than under George W. Bush, whose cumulative total was 2 million. But Bush’s number covers eight full years, which doesn’t allow an apples-to-apples comparison.

    If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents.
    This article suggests that it is simply down to classification terms https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...on-statistics/, and can be spun either way.

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    Mert man up, why are you being such a pussy? Why are you letting your bitch control you, maggot?

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    If only Taz was here

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    lol at #Parkinsons trending. The state of this election.

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    It's grim, isn't it.

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    The bigger shame is how obsessed everyone here is with it (especially our political types, who should be looking at Europe). Let the yanks yank.

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    There are serious articles suggesting she might have to drop out.

    Sound the conspiracy theory klaxon.


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    You can't really base your campaign on temperament if you're liable to piss yourself if a meeting goes over two hours. Plus the mere notion of concealing major health issues hardly does their reputation for absolute dishonesty any favours. Either way, they need to address it.

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    Play it up for the sympathy vote.

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    They've said she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday.

    Presumably that explanation will be rejected by various armchair medical experts in the coming days.

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    Bernie's comeback.

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