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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Owen Smiths said that we should bring ISIS to the table.

    edit: And yet the main story seems to be 'Corbyn doesn't know who Ant & Dec are'

    Nice.
    To be fair to Jezza on this one, the media would have went MENTAL if he'd said it. Smith is terribly out of his depth, and really his sole selling point is that he isn't Corbyn. He seems an arrogant fuck as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    To be fair to Jezza on this one
    Holy shit.

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    What's your view on Venezuela, Boyd? Genuine question given it's turned to shit.

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    Didn't even call him 'Wor Jez'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    What's your view on Venezuela, Boyd? Genuine question given it's turned to shit.
    I haven't really been following it, to be honest.

    What's going down now?

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    Food is plentiful but nobody can afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    I haven't really been following it, to be honest.

    What's going down now?
    It's fallen apart. Government workers are only allowed to go in about one day a week because there's not enough electricity (leading to massive blackouts across the country constantly), even the middle classes are rummaging in bins for food and there's huge numbers crossing the Colombian border just to get hold of basic provisions. Its economy is forecast to contract something like 10% this year.

    Venezuela seemed to be a rallying cry for 'good socialism' a few years ago, and everybody is suspiciously quiet about it now. It was a genuine question, because I don't think there's a single example in the last five decades where socialism has actually worked.

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    No report lolling at Venezuela is complete without mentioning their world-leading oil reserves.

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    I'm sure we'd all like to avoid having that sort of socialist shite over here.

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    If everybody's skint does that count as shared wealth? Seems like the loophole Pyonyang could deploy.

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    Corbyn wouldn't commit to Article 5, defeating the entire point of NATO.

    Top, top work.

    More importantly, this is a cracking article: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05...t-for-the-ira/

    @Boydy voted for this lad, for fuck sake. Never support the left, lads.

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    https://twitter.com/Alison1mackITV/s...30487854010369

    I can't stop watching it. What a legend Corbyn is.

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    Jack Dromey was an associate member of the KGB in the seventies, so he could probably provide some decent insight on all of this if he wasn't utterly pointless.

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    Imagine how intensely dull dinner table discussions must be in that household.

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    I bet he does all the housework.

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    This came up in my Twitter feed in the context of Nicolola Sturgeon's useless manoeuvring post the EU vote. First Minister of Scotland, lads.


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    "Sadiq" has come out for Owen Smith and effectively called Jezza useless. His supporters have went MENTAL, because he apparently only won London because Corbyn is a man of the people.

    Still, it's quite good political opportunism. Fair play.

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    His sense of self-importance (which was up there anyway) has skyrocketed since getting that job. Andy Burnham will probably start poncing about like Thomas Wolsey if he gets to run Manchester, going on and on about his 'mandate' whenever the actual leader says something he doesn't agree with.

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    Dan Hodges went full faggot during the referendum, but this is good.

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    Smith is completely out of his depth and has been from the beginning.

    I doubt anyone could have taken Corbyn out in this leadership cycle, but he hasn't half done a fucking awful job of it.

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    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...rm-yet-to-come



    It's been two months, mate. You'd think he'd have moved on by now.

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    Corbyn's train floor stunt was, well, a stunt. Walked past empty, unreserved seats.

    https://www.virgintrains.co.uk/about...ervice-1530005

    What a fucking moron.

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    That's pretty lol.

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    Fair play to whoever wrote that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elth View Post
    Corbyn's train floor stunt was, well, a stunt. Walked past empty, unreserved seats.

    https://www.virgintrains.co.uk/about...ervice-1530005

    What a fucking moron.
    Amazing.

    No doubt his moronic supporters will have it spun in short order.

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    Really? How could they possibly have thought that would end anyway other than this? Beyond parody doesn't seem to scratch the surface anymore. RIP satire.

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    The Thick Of It is real and we are living it

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    Hard to film in a properly packed train to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Amazing.

    No doubt his moronic supporters will have it spun in short order.
    That didn't take long. The video footage is fairly conclusive, I would suggest.

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    Attempting to spin a picture of him walking past empty, unreserved seats is impressive.

    Maybe neither he nor anyone with him actually understand how trains work.

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    "That train was packed. I know because my vision was obscured by the chair in front of me. Who put that there?"

    Guys, is there some cool country I can emigrate to?

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    I might just move to America and be done with it. At least crazy is an accepted way of life over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Smith(?)
    We will vote in Parliament to block any attempt to invoke Article 50 until Theresa May commits to a second referendum or a general election on whatever EU exit deal emerges at the end of the process... I'm a passionate pro-European and I will fight tooth and nail to keep us in the EU. The British people were lied to by the Leave campaign - they deserve to have a say on whatever exit deal the Tories strike with the EU.
    lol you stupid twat.

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    Elsewhere in Free Britain, Wee Jimmy Krankie appears to have suggested that Scotland could reduce its deficit with borrowing. Good idea.

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    Corbyn was SEETHING when that bloke from Sky News tried to ask him a question on it too. He can't cope with situations where people don't already agree with him and adhere to the party line. He's genuinely fucking hopeless.

    @Lewis - I was reading about the GERS figures earlier too. The situation for Scotland is quite stark, really. A £15bn annual deficit plugged by Westminster, 64% of trade with the UK over 15% with the EU and secession necessitating a floating Scots currency with acceptance of the Euro for entry into the 'common market'. There's no case whatsoever for independence, but there goes Wee Jimmy Krankie goes trying desperately to put a spin on it all to pretend it's somehow everybody else's fault.

    It's genuinely insulting to the average voter. It's a shame Sebo isn't about any more, it would have been interesting to watch him thrash about to pretend the way Scotland are leeching off England to maintain their public services is somehow England's fault.

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    I had a good lol at the wallies arguing with Andrew Neil earlier. They (like the Jezza Fans) seem to know enough to qualify as not being thick, but they just filter it all through thickness. They remind me of that Cirdan knobhead who used to post here (and Mert to an extent, although he doesn't really believe it).

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    There's quite a good line in the Cybernat world of claiming that Scottish goods go out of English ports and therefore aren't captured in the data. I mean, fucking seriously.

    Mhairi Black was complaining about Tory NHS policy a while back, failing to recognise that it's a fully devolved issue to Holyrood. Either she's thick, which she presumably isn't, or she's lying.

    It's a genuine shame that these public figures are thick as shit, but I suppose that's always going to be the problem when you've got a party like the SNP which hinges its entire existence on one issue.

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    Also:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...my-corbyn-good

    At a phone bank in Walthamstow, east London, on Monday night, Mr Corbyn said: "We had a message yesterday from Bernie Sanders, saying that they condemned him because he wasn’t electable.

    “And he said the reason they condemned him was because he was electable. And he represented a threat to the establishment within the USA.

    Mr Corbyn added: “So I think you can see the parallels that are going on there.”

    He [a spokesman for Senator Sanders] told The Huffington Post: “The senator didn’t send a message and doesn’t intend to get involved in British politics.”

    A spokesman for Mr Corbyn said: "Jeremy was misinformed by an aide, who had wrongly been led to believe this was the case."

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    And the spin begins in earnest.


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    I wish they'd just fuck off.

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    Scotland's prosperity is ... like, ours.

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    The Canadian deal will be next to die a death, and everyone will have to accept that the Commission really are fucking useless.

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    Wasn't this the massively overreaching TTIP clusterfuck? Sounded like a horrendous deal

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    lol at that same German bloke admitting that the entire shitshow could collapse if we succeed. What does that tell you, Hermann?

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    I presume by "keep the nice things" he means all those fucking German cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Wasn't this the massively overreaching TTIP clusterfuck? Sounded like a horrendous deal
    It was indeed horrendous, but it was apparently the best trade deal that our great and bountiful European overlords could come up with. Having spent about eight years to get here, they've now managed to fuck it up. The Commission have had to cede confirming CETA to national parliaments as well, which will no doubt lead to the thing being blocked for years to come as various regional and national parliaments take issue with parts of it.

    But still, it's a travesty we're fucking the thing off. Apparently.

    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I presume by "keep the nice things" he means all those fucking German cars.
    Fuck knows.

    Joseph Stieglitz has a book out where he traces every European problem back to the premature introduction of the Euro. Which none of them want to admit to, of course, because that would necessitate accepting that 'the project' is failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    lol at that same German bloke admitting that the entire shitshow could collapse if we succeed. What does that tell you, Hermann?
    He had a good dig at Merkel's immigration policy of last year too.

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    Gave some Nazi kids the finger this week as well.

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