Otherwise people would forget that they exist.
Otherwise people would forget that they exist.
Stranger than such paragons of sporting virtue such as the lager and bookmaking industries?
McDonalds sponsorship is ingrained in English football.
I was at these awards yesterday at Wembley and they 'support' something like 7,000 grassroots clubs.
http://www.thefa.com/my-football/com...mmunity-awards
Looking for that list of sponsorships I did find something interesting. Apparently one of the reasons they're involved is because attendance to a McDonalds drops 5-6% when a large sporting event is on so they think it's effective advertising. The other being free tickets for stuff for franchise owners makes them more likely to stick with McDonalds and not turn the place into a Subway.Originally Posted by Lewis
As I said money talks but should not be allowed any sponsorship at youth level.
Unless they're force feeding burgers to kids then there's no problem. Up to people to be responsible for themselves and their own spawn.
So then who is going to pay for all of their equipment and what have you?
Stupid argument.
We all have responsibility over the kids. McDonald's should be as much allowed near kids as a drug cartel. If you don't see the problem, then you have a problem.
Another sponsor that fulfill the requirements of among others not serving poison to kids.
Fight the good fight, Saint!
I agree actually.
No we don't. They're not our kids and they're not McDonald's kids. People need to raise their own and stop expecting society and 'role models' to do it for them. The fact that so many don't bother is the real problem.
Again, nobody is force feeding anyone a big mac.
Being sponsored by a major fast food chain isn't the greatest message. May as well get Benson and Hedges in as well.
But then welcome to modern day sponsorship, everything is good if they're giving you coin.
I remember watching my teenage cousin play Sunday league when I was about 5 and wanting the other team to win because they had McDonald's on their shirt.
Nobody would be forcing Bensons on any kids either.
You're reinforcing the product as something that is linked with health/the national sport. It's not a product you want to be associating with your game unless you really don't care.
But if kids don't know that cigarettes are harmful then their patents should be locked up. Sponsors are advertising, not forcing.
You don't think advertising has any part to play in behaviour?
Not if responsible parents do their job like they should be. Can't be expecting advertising to raise their kids for them.
Excellent point.
It's not like Coca Cola sponsoring everything under the sun is any better, but yeah, as a public health issue, advertising for products aimed at youth should not involve nasty shit like that
I wonder if someone's tried to correlate betting ads to betting addiction in children.
Apologies, I had thought you said sponsorship shouldn't be allowed at that level entirely.
Everyone should sue betfred on behalf of the children immediately.
I see McDonalds advertising fucking everywhere, it doesn't mean I feel compelled to walk into every one I pass to have a Big Mac with fries.
Advertising / partnering with McDonalds by the FA is perfectly fine - it's all about money, after all. The idea they're in it for anything else should be ridiculed by everybody.
It's awfully good of 'Daws' to take time out from his busy schedule of robbing pensioners and taxpayers to weep for declining sponsorship standards.
Yes, you would. Well not everyone but certainly you would enter and buy a McDonald's menu.
This is why the advertising companies advertise!
Yes, and then it's down to the individual whether they want buy a Big Mac with fries.
It's called personal responsibility. If you end up weighing thirty stone, it's nobody's fault but your own.
Are you serious?
We live in a world where everyone knows how to be healthy and still obesity rises by the second.
Fuckin hell, everyone knows how to have 6 pack like Ronaldo and very few do it.
We are humans, we don't have personal responsibility. Therefore we have rules.
We just can't control ourselves!
Everyone knows but not everyone cares enough or has the responsibility to do it. Those that don't only have themselves to blame, not the companies selling the bad food.
Most people could never 'have a 6 pack like Ronaldo' without devoting their entire lives to doing so.
You could say that about arms and drug dealers.
You're also not considering how much obesity fucks over the NHS.
@Giggles obv
'a Big Mac with fries' is such a GS turn of phrase.
Eh? Not sure about that. Most people could never play football like Ronaldo without devoting seventeen lives to doing so, but a six pack is achievable.
Anyway I don't see why society shouldn't play a part in influencing people, and especially kids, in the right ways. You can't say kids seeing McDonald's logos everywhere they go won't be effected negatively. And "personal responsibility" is no good reason where there is opportunity to help other people.
Companies should be free to advertise, in the same way as consumers should be free to buy the shit they're advertising if they want to.
People have to help themselves first and foremost. Nobody is marching them into a McDonalds at gunpoint and telling them to eat there.
Well that's quite obvious but I'm not a fan of the "well it's their own fault" school of thought. People should help other people, that's the point of society.
Most people could have visible abdominal muscles (if not necessarily in the healthiest manner), but a Ronaldo physique is something else. He is a genetic freak, and yet he still spends most of the day training or recovering in some capacity, and he probably spares no expense having all of his food prepared for him. Where does the average geezer find the time and inclination to bother?
Fuck helping people, just let them pay for their own medical expenses. The weight drops off when you can't afford to eat.
No it's not.
Ronaldo's body fat is well in to single figures %age wise. Without letting it rule your life most people wouldn't get near 10%
By doing what? Barricading the entrances to McDonalds? Nobody's suggesting we refuse to treat them on the publicly-funded NHS afterwards.
Quite. Most people just want the government to leave them alone.
I am. Fuck 'em. Smokers too.
Well even if you disagree with the basic point, I don't understand the last sentence there. What's the point of letting people screw themselves up if you've got to help them later at great cost?
Steps could have been in place to start phasing out smoking years ago, but why fix a problem when you can tax a problem?
Build a wall around them and make Mexico pay.
Basically. And then if you could get it to six or eight or whatever he is per cent, as soon as you started eating to increase your strength/size/endurance, anyone not blessed with Ronaldo genetics (or Ronaldo single-mindedness) would inevitably put some fat back on. He's probably the sort of freak who hasn't eaten crisps in fifteen years. Fuck that.
Would I only be allowed one takeaway a fortnight because the state mandates that this is the recommended level? How would you enforce this sort of ridiculous restriction? What actually constitutes 'helping' people, as you put it?
The reason why you treat them afterwards is because that's what the NHS is there for.
Helping people is enforcing "smoking kills" labels etc, and since McDonald's is objectively awful health wise... But we just disagree on the basic argument.
@Lewis Yeah I see what you're getting at, he's an exception.
From a simple cost perspective, isn't it better that more people eat and smoke and drink themselves to death? Yeah, you have to spend money on diabetics and that whilst they're alive; but the actual colossal drain on Our NHS is old people, so even the fully state-funded fatties dropping dead at fifty saves money in the long-term.
Right, but I don't see what the basic argument is. You're suggesting that people shouldn't be able to eat at McDonalds when they want to, or that they shouldn't be allowed to advertise in the same way as every other company is entitled to. That's just lol.
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