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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    The Tories like winning. No matter what else, they know how to win elections.
    They do.

    The FTPA does have problems, mind you. They'd need Labour to vote with them for a two thirds majority, which you can't imagine they'd be overly keen on. Similarly, repealing the act would require it to go through the Lords. Even if they want one, Labour can effectively block it if they so wish. Nick Clegg has much to answer for.

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    Do you reckon Jezza will lead the applause after PMQs him like he did for Tony Blair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Not really. This puts Gove back on the ticket.
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    Nah party rules state that there still has to be a leadership contest.
    The 1922 Committee have confirmed that May is the new leader of the party with immediate effect.

    Well done.

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    Proper end credits sequence on an absolutely bizarre couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    They do.

    The FTPA does have problems, mind you. They'd need Labour to vote with them for a two thirds majority, which you can't imagine they'd be overly keen on. Similarly, repealing the act would require it to go through the Lords. Even if they want one, Labour can effectively block it if they so wish. Nick Clegg has much to answer for.
    The Tories could just initiate a vote of no confidence in their government. Only needs a simple majority. There are then two weeks for somebody else to form a government. But there is nobody else, so it would be election time.

    In any case both Labour and the Lib Dems have today publicly called for a GE. May ought to challenge them to follow through with that and vote in favour.

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    I read that as the John Cena music, imagine my disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post


    Proper end credits sequence on an absolutely bizarre couple of weeks.

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    Labour are thick as pigshit. Owen Smith is going to launch his leadership bid tomorrow, apparently.

    Splitting the anti-Corbyn vote.

    They'd better be pretty fucking sure that Corbyn isn't getting on the ballot.

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    That's some Monty Python level stuff

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    Not available but the wolf of wall street one is very good.

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    Not available?

    But yeah, I watched that one too.

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    It works embedded but not if I click on it to go to the YouTube app. I know some videos aren't playable on mobile maybe that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Labour are thick as pigshit. Owen Smith is going to launch his leadership bid tomorrow, apparently.

    Splitting the anti-Corbyn vote.

    They'd better be pretty fucking sure that Corbyn isn't getting on the ballot.
    Well the BBC are saying they've seen advice given to Unite by their lawyers that's states unequivocally that Corbyn is automatically entitled to stand as Party Leader.

    Find someone and unite behind them you twats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Labour are thick as pigshit. Owen Smith is going to launch his leadership bid tomorrow, apparently.

    Splitting the anti-Corbyn vote.

    They'd better be pretty fucking sure that Corbyn isn't getting on the ballot.
    You're taking the piss, surely.

    What the fuck is he thinking?

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    I've tried to listen to this Eagle woman's latest speech but she keeps blowing out her mic with her voice. Direction, not volume. Plus you look, sound and have all the mannerisms of a woman popping round for tea to tell you about God,

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    If it ain't Corbyn it should be Andy Burnham. Everyone else is a bellend.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Well the BBC are saying they've seen advice given to Unite by their lawyers that's states unequivocally that Corbyn is automatically entitled to stand as Party Leader.

    Find someone and unite behind them you twats.
    Yeah he was saying that was some electoral college rule that was scrapped in '92 or something and that the current leader automatically goes on the ballet.

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    They just need someone who can give a good speech whilst looking directly at a camera. None of this village hall bullshit. Is one of Tony's kids old enough to run?

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    Alan Shearer?

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    Labour in MELTDOWN, and Jezza was at a Cuba solidarity meeting.

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    The pound went up against the dollar when Leadsom pulled out.

    Hmm, can get Euro's at 1.18 (so around 1.15 at independent foreign exchange places)...should I get a sneaky 100 quid now before it plummets again.

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    The currency movement is bollocks for now. The markets were responding to uncertainty. The consensus appears to be that things will go south when Article 50 is activated. How far south is, I imagine, dependent on things that even a Lee not pissed out of his face on ouzo could begin to understand.

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    I agree - invoking Article 50 is when the 'uncertainty' starts, although I assume we continue to be in the single market until such time as we formally leave the EU on a given date. This assumes we don't transition to some bollocks EEA-style arrangement.

    I was thinking earlier that May should ask Cameron to head up the trade negotiation team. I don't know how you'd organise it so he's not humiliated, but I reckon Wor Dave would be quite good at it. We should be ready with trade deal after trade deal to throw at the markets before leaving, to demonstrate we're not becoming some isolationist shithole in the Atlantic.

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    Beyond the obligatory directorship somewhere, I bet Dave just retires and does nothing. He doesn't need the money (nor does he seem the money-grabbing sort), and what global bullshit could you conceivably see him wanting or bothering to put his name to?

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    I really, really hope she calls their bluff.

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    I bet fucking loads of people vote Labour.

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    I doubt it.

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    The SNP have finished Labour for the forseeable. Well, the SNP and Millibands inability to eat a hotdog normally.

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    Might as well add a hung parliament to this clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Beyond the obligatory directorship somewhere, I bet Dave just retires and does nothing. He doesn't need the money (nor does he seem the money-grabbing sort), and what global bullshit could you conceivably see him wanting or bothering to put his name to?
    He could become chairman of the governors at the private school his kids will now be able to go to.

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    What do the Mirror honestly expect to happen if an election was called now?

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    Theresa May seems smart. I don't agree with much of her political philosophy, obviously, but she seems like a sensible sort who won't be necessarily swayed by weekly opinion polls. Probably the best hands you could have hoped for, really.

    EDIT: She probably should call an election, because she'd walk it in.

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    If Labour knows what's good for them they'll shut up about any talk of an election, they'd seriously end up with less than 150 seats if an election was called.

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    The Unions have now said that if Corbyn isn't on the ballot they'll take the party to court to stop the leadership election.

    I'm lost for words.

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    What's even more pointless about the unions doing that is that it's not as if Corbyn is popular with the union membership any more. I suspect the likes of McCluskey etc. see this as a 'last stand' for their type of politics and they simply aren't prepared to lose it. If he's on the ballot and wins again, then just lol. I suspect he'd win a straight fight with anybody given the state of entryism into the party, but he'll clearly walk it if Smith runs too.

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    Apparently Angela Eagle's constituency office had a brick thrown through the window last night.

    A kinder, gentler politics.

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    Her staff have also stopped answering the phone because they're just getting abuse from Momentum.

    Viva la revolucion.

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    Done. I'm done.


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    Pretty sure phonics has turned in to a Twitter bot.

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    HAHAHAHA! LOOK! SHE MADE A MISTAKE! FIRST DAY IN HER NEW JOB AND SHE WALKED TO THE WRONG CAR! HAHAHAHA!

    Fucking retards.

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    That Cameron video is brilliant, but it would be all the better if the audio went on for a bit longer. Right, good . . .

    > let's get on with removing all the Ts from the keyboards?
    > where are the keys to the really good drinks cabinet?
    > can somebody get me those launch codes?

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    The Labour NEC are having a secret ballot to decide whether or not Jez needs the necessary nominations to get on the ballot or is just straight through. This is expected to be bad for him, as some union leaders may say he does in contradiction to their public statements and it's thus very tight.

    He was asked to leave the meeting before the vote and, true to form, has refused to do so. Very good.

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    Is there any chance he'll be able to cobble them together if he needs to? What is it, MPs, MEPs? Is there another subset of fuckwits he could delve into as well?

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    MPs and MEPs. He has 40 in the Commons who didn't give him a vote of no confidence, but some of them have since told him to resign apparently. There are also some who voted no confidence (e.g. Lisa Nandy) who have said they want him on the ballot.

    It's hard to say. The thing is he's not being denied a place on the ballot - he's simply being told he has no automatic right to be there. It'll go down like a lead balloon with the membership, but I doubt he can get to 51. At least that means if there's a split, it's the smaller, mental lot who are required to break off and not the larger, semi-sensible component.

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    He's had it. The question is what the newly invigorated left idiots do now.

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    I strongly suspect a secret ballot means that's the case. The leader-in-name-only taking the party to court because he can't muster sufficient nominations is going to be amazing.

    The fallout from the membership will also be spectacular. I expect there will be a few more bricks through windows.

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    Is Angela just a stalking horse for Tom Watson/whoever he wants to win?

    There are two possible outcomes that I can see, either a Momentum approved candidate gets on the ballot in which case they will probably win and the party splits, or the candidates are all 'moderates' and Momentum kick off and call it an elitist Blairite coup, in which case who knows.

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    Although the rules seem to be a bit vague I don't see the benefit to trying to keep him off the ballot. If they don't think Eagle (or anyone else) can beat him in a leadership election what's the point? If they think that they would win regardless why risk alienating the Corbyn supporters further by excluding him from the vote?

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