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    My parents met there, long before the days of Uber and shotguns though.

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    Was it ISIS inspired? If not then we don't care.

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    For those of us who would like to arm our police


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    Is that true? If so then that is fantastic.

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    Clearly we need to arm our journalists as well.

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    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...esston-wichita

    Kansas lawn-mower killer. Four dead, 20 injured. Shooter dead.

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    Why do we need the phone records for the San Bernardino shooter but not for every other shooter?

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    Can't they just have exhumed the body and used their fingers to unlock it?

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    It's an iPhone 5 so doesn't have it.

    That Apple case is an absolute travesty. If the world isn't corrupt it'll be thrown out within 24 hours of going to court but I think this is the beginning of the end.

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    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...legheny-county

    Police say five people have been shot dead in an “ambush-style attack” in suburban Pittsburgh and at least two gunmen are at large.

    Allegheny County police said four women and a man were killed late on Wednesday during a backyard party in the borough of Wilkinsburg. At least three others are in hospital, where two men are in critical condition and one woman is stable.

    Police said people scrambled toward the house as bullets began flying. Four of the victims were found dead on the back porch. The other died at a hospital.

    At least two suspects fled on foot. No suspects are in custody and a motive was not immediately known.

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    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pro-gun-mu...085518113.html

    It's bad that I was a little disappointed she hadn't died, isn't it?

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    I would give her a shot.

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    If only she was armed, she would have been able to defend herself.

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    She should have tazered the little cunt.

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    https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2...stman-slipped/

    An update on the FBI/Apple case. Just goes to show they can do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2...stman-slipped/

    An update on the FBI/Apple case. Just goes to show they can do anything.
    Hell of an update.

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    I basically posted it to indulge phonics' tin hat syndrome.

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    You might want to check what it is you posted, Magic.

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    Oh for fuck's sake.

    EDIT: Here's the correct one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35914195

    #Saint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2...stman-slipped/

    An update on the FBI/Apple case. Just goes to show they can do anything.
    Hah.

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    Magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2...stman-slipped/

    An update on the FBI/Apple case. Just goes to show they can do anything.
    This is better than the actual story tbh.

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    Man walks into Orlando gay bar with handgun and an assault rifle. Opens fire on the crowd, takes hostages when the police show up. Then starts again so the SWAT team take him out.

    20 dead so far with over 40 hospitalized.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272

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    Calling it an act of terrorism and saying the bloke seemed to like a bit of radical islam.

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    Confirmed terrorist.

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    Great for Trump.

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    There's no arguing with too many Americans on the second amendment, so unfortunately this is just what happens. Grim.

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    This was a terrorist thing though, can you argue that?

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    One imagines it would be quite difficult for him to proceed with the terrorism if he couldn't just pop down to Walmart to buy a gun with the weekly shop.

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    Really? Well it happened in France rather easily multiple times, don't recall them having the second amendment.

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    They're saying he wasn't on a terrorist watchlist.

    Sounds more like a nutter. Apparently his dad is telling the media that "he got very angry at seeing two gay men kissing in public". Bit of an overreaction mate.

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    Religion + access to military weaponry = problems?

    Surprising news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Really? Well it happened in France rather easily multiple times, don't recall them having the second amendment.
    It's fair to say that head cases going about shooting people, whatever their motive, is a bit more of an exception in Europe where you can't pop down to the supermarket to buy an assualt rifle.

    Mert's having a shit day. He's watching his national team play like a bunch of feminised westerners and he'll get back to find one of his islamic brothers has taken advantage of his American freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Great for Trump.
    This seems to be the main concern on Twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    They're saying he wasn't on a terrorist watchlist.

    Sounds more like a nutter. Apparently his dad is telling the media that "he got very angry at seeing two gay men kissing in public". Bit of an overreaction mate.
    If I was a betting man I'd say that's because he's not allowed to, classic repression right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Really? Well it happened in France rather easily multiple times, don't recall them having the second amendment.
    It would be less likely to happen in Europe if the Schengen zone wasn't a massive sieve through which terrorists and weapons can seep and then move freely across internal borders, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Really? Well it happened in France rather easily multiple times, don't recall them having the second amendment.
    There's a difference between organised groups bringing illegal weapons into the country and it being possible to legitimately pop down to Woolies for some pick n mix and an AK.

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    50?

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    I guess since the shooter was Muslim we need to care about this shooting, as opposed to all the ones done by non-Muslims, which go under the 'shit happens' category.

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    Even in France you need to spend a bit of time organising yourself the right contacts to get weapons, you can't just pop into Carrefour and come home with an AR-15 and a case of ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    I guess since the shooter was Muslim we need to care about this shooting, as opposed to all the ones done by non-Muslims, which go under the 'shit happens' category.
    50 people were killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elth View Post
    Even in France you need to spend a bit of time organising yourself the right contacts to get weapons, you can't just pop into Carrefour and come home with an AR-15 and a case of ammo.
    This is it. The IRA had significant 'military' capacity, but that's because it was a highly organised operation with support from states such as Libya. Gaddafi supplied weaponry, including Semtex. The supply chain is highly vulnerable to intelligence, and any sort of 'bust' rendered some of the cells 'militarily impotent'.

    There's a clear difference between organised terrorism like Paris (and IRA, ETA etc.) and this sort of nutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    I guess since the shooter was Muslim we need to care about this shooting, as opposed to all the ones done by non-Muslims, which go under the 'shit happens' category.
    That the shooter is a Muslim is largely irrelevant in the context of fifty dead, I suspect. It's the worst atrocity in America since 9/11.

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    Fourteen were killed in that San Bernardino shooting, which admittedly is more that the nine that were killed in the Charleston church one. The difference in reaction was massive. Not saying that the current events are not a tragedy, just pointing out that there is a big double standard in the way this all too common tragedies in the US are treated based on the perpetrator, which is why they'll never even get close to trying to fix the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    That the shooter is a Muslim is largely irrelevant in the context of fifty dead, I suspect. It's the worst atrocity in America since 9/11.
    Wait until the 'proposed solutions' start popping up, then we'll see whether it is relevant or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Fourteen were killed in that San Bernardino shooting, which admittedly is more that the nine that were killed in the Charleston church one. The difference in reaction was massive. Not saying that the current events are not a tragedy, just pointing out that there is a big double standard in the way this all too common tragedies in the US are treated based on the perpetrator, which is why they'll never even get close to trying to fix the issue.
    The shooter becomes an issue because people look for reasons why they did it. It's not really a double standard - a self-declared 'follower' of Islamic State / someone who claims they were 'inspired' by them is a bigger story than 'white nutter shoots blacks'. The former is a relatively new phenomenon in America and thus carries more coverage given the supposed link between this sort of thing and American foreign policy. I think most just assume the latter sort of event happens because nutters can buy guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Wait until the 'proposed solutions' start popping up, then we'll see whether it is relevant or not.
    I mean in terms of the coverage this particular shooting event is going to receive. There's fifty people dead, so the shooter's motives are going to be relentlessly raked over in the media. It would get the same level of coverage (direction is a different matter) regardless.

    I do find American media coverage to be uncomfortably macabre in events such as this. I don't really understand why 'local law enforcement' are required to give an on the spot briefing to the press where they stand there and say 'local law enforcement' a lot.

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    Do we need a countdown until some asshat says they deserved it for being gay? It's America so I suspect it won't be long.

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    Does anyone else find GS's 'this is it' post opener really irritating?

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