The Masters

[Jimmy Floyd]

This gets underway tomorrow. It's the last vestige of the old south, always fun and this year there are a host of in-form top, top, top players vying for the green jacket.

The first two days are on Sky and the weekend also on BBC.

The par 3 contest is underway on Sky and Gary Player is cruising around like a boss as per.

[Giggles]

I'll be watching every minute on BBC over the weekend. Love the Masters.

[Baz]

My money's on Louis Oosthuizen.

[Jimmy Floyd]

So is mine.

Sky in all their wisdom have sent Kirsty Gallacher over, already seen Sandy Lyle ogle her, not going to be a comfortable week for old Kirsty.

[Giggles]

Because Sky I have seen a miniscule amount of golf recently but I didn't think Oosthuizen was still around at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well he's ranked 11 in the world.

Gary Player has just made a hole in one, at the age of 80 :drool:

[ItalAussie]

Would love to see Jason Day crack this. He's come close before, he's broken the major barrier now, and he's in good form.

[Giggles]

The Masters :cool:


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[Weaver]

I've gone for:
£3 on Rickie Fowler to win @ 14/1
and on Jimmy's instruction, £1e/w on Victor Dibuisson (200) and £1e/w on some Korean fella.

And 50p on Sandy Lyle @ 1000.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You'd get more return from that 50p if you used it as a weapon in a bank robbery.

[Dark Soldier]

Watching this on CBS via VPN. Speith killing it early doors.

[Boydy]

Betfair are only paying 5 places at 1/5 odds but I can't be arsed signing up elsewhere.

I've got:

£1 each way on Oosthuizen at 51.
50p each way on Smylie Kaufman at 201 (cool name).
50p each way on Graeme McDowell at 301 (long shot patriotism).
50p each way on Darren Clarke at 1001 (long shot patriotism).

[Mellberg]

Has Darren Clarke not constantly been on the ale since he won the Open?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Watching this on CBS via VPN. Speith killing it early doors.

The proper live coverage (anywhere) doesn't start until 8pm our time, good old men in green jackets protecting the 'patrons'.

Fowler already dead by the looks of it, five over.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just had a large lay of Spieth. A Day eagle follows :drool:

Ernie managing a 10 including seven putts on the first hole. Mental.

[Dark Soldier]

The proper live coverage (anywhere) doesn't start until 8pm our time, good old men in green jackets protecting the 'patrons'.

Fowler already dead by the looks of it, five over.

I've got Yank commentators (fuck knows who they are) giving away zero emotion as Speith wanks one into the rough currently. Its quite glorious.

[Giggles]

Jim Nantz, or is he still doing the golf?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They put on 'featured groups' with hired hand commentators, which is when you find out just how bloody slowly the pros play the game.

[Dark Soldier]

I'm gonna watch the 'Amen Corner' coverage tomorrow just as the first group tee off. Can't be any less exciting.

[Boydy]

Has Darren Clarke not constantly been on the ale since he won the Open?

No idea.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Have they said the last time someone 7-putted in a tournament?

[Giggles]

No idea.

That interview the next morning on the radio was brilliant. Hadn't slept a wink and was hammered.

[John Arne]

Behind the scenes with Jack Nicklaus :drool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uePg7rGuYEw

[hfswjyr]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

He has had a tendency for those sorts of nightmares in the last few years, but 7 putts from three feet is something else. I don't think I've ever had more than three from that range, and I am very shit.

This Bryson DeChambeau bloke pisses me off. Stupid name, stupid hat, stupid frat boy face, fuck off.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

They're not even lipping the hole. :arry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Day is taking the piss. Should monster Spieth over the four days if it comes down to those two.

[Giggles]

That big nose cunt being -2 already is bad news for my weekend viewing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Shane Lowry seems like your kinda guy though.

[Giggles]

Didn't even know he still played golf. Not sure what the suggestion means though apart from him being Irish, if that's it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well he's currently second in the Masters, so he probably still swings a club now and then.

I've never seen him smile.

[Giggles]

I couldn't tell you. I vaguely remember him getting a tour win as an amateur and presumed he had been living at the low order of the European tour or retired since.

But, to humour the storyline, he looks a bit hipster with that beard.

[Giggles]

Bubba's fucked.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bubba having a classic hilarious Bubba meltdown. Could have waited for a week I didn't back him.

Hopefully Spieth and Day at least manage to both keep it going so we have a Sunday showdown.

[Giggles]

Why is Langer allowed use that putter? Because he's retired?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

To pump me up for this I went to a mini golf place today.

I need of those cheater belly putters, I was a shambles.

Although not as bad as Els.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You're not allowed to anchor it in your body. You can still use a long putter. Learnhard holds it away from his body.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hopefully Spieth and Day at least manage to both keep it going so we have a Sunday showdown.

Day dead already. Over to Rory.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rory's in it. Spieth very poor today, too slow and with a shit attitude, let them all back into it when he could have gone clear.

Spieth / McIlroy final pairing tomorrow is pretty :drool:

[Baz]

Why does Justin Rose play in sunglasses? Nobody else seems to keep them on while they're having their turn.

[Giggles]

Garcia doing this would just make the weekend.

[niko_cee]

Garcia just isn't ever going to hole enough putts to win.

Look at the save Speith made on 18 yesterday. That's the kind of thing you need to be doing to win a major, and old Sergio can never get it done (see also Westwood). I'd like to be wrong, but I just can't see either of those two ever winning a major without someone else doing a Van de Velde.

[niko_cee]

Reckon McIlroy might have it in him to give Speith a bit of a shoeing today, which probably means he's going to have a spectacular meltdown.

[niko_cee]

Meltdown ahoy.

Bernhard though.

:cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rory :harold:

[ItalAussie]

Reckon McIlroy might have it in him to give Speith a bit of a shoeing today, which probably means he's going to have a spectacular meltdown.

You called it.

Seems like it should be easy for Speith now. Most likely challengers? I'd guess that the only way he could possibly lose without falling apart is if Dustin Johnson has a stupid round of eight under or something, of which he's capable if his streakiness comes good. Unlikely though. Day and Matsuyama could probably work their way up the board if things go their way, but it's a big ask.

[ItalAussie]

Spoke slightly too soon. He's still in the box seat though.

[Giggles]

5 is a bit close for comfort but I'll give it 9 tomorrow for a start. Both were awful today apart from Spieths putting though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

At least Spieth ballsed the last two up.

Really opens the field back up.

I'm all on the Lee Westwood train tomorrow, he's my last betting glimmer of hope.

Boydy's done well on Smylie and I'm kicking myself I went for Rickie Fowler instead.

[Boydy]

At least Spieth ballsed the last two up.

Really opens the field back up.

I'm all on the Lee Westwood train tomorrow, he's my last betting glimmer of hope.

Boydy's done well on Smylie and I'm kicking myself I went for Rickie Fowler instead.

How's Smylie doing? I've not really followed this.

[ItalAussie]

How's Smylie doing? I've not really followed this.

For real?

He's on his own in second, one shot off the lead. One of only four players to be better than par.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How's Smylie doing? I've not really followed this.

Second on -2. He had the best round of today.

One behind Spieth who is on -3 and one ahead of Langer and some Japanese chap.

[Boydy]

Oh shit. Nice. I'll have to watch tomorrow then.

£20 of he places in the top 5 from 50p. £120 if he wins.

[ItalAussie]

Second on -2. He had the best round of today.

One behind Spieth who is on -3 and one ahead of Langer and some Japanese chap.

"Some Japanese chap". Also world #14, for what it's worth. And that's probably going to get better over the next few years, too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I am massively racist towards people of an Asian persuasion though.

[ItalAussie]

:D I'd quite like to see him win a major. Seems fun.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hideki is the best ever player from Asia in terms of ability. Doesn't always mean you win a major but he could well do.

Smylie is a right bolter. Only got his tour card six months ago. Qualified for this by virtue of randomly winning in Las Vegas from about 1000 shots behind.

[ItalAussie]

Hideki is the best ever player from Asia in terms of ability. Doesn't always mean you win a major but he could well do.
Reckon he's better than Y. E. Yang and K. J. Choi? Choi certainly had a long career at the top level, although Yang was more of a bolter.

I mean, I'm inclined to agree, but they had good careers on the whole.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He'll be quite a lot better than both of them, although I'm a big KJ fan (he's having a good season this year in fact). YE Yang winning a major... well, there's hope for us all.

Those in the know say that Hideki is perhaps the purest striker of an iron in the world at the moment.

[ItalAussie]

One thing I love about golf is that improbable major winners actually happen, and with a not terrible frequency.

Shaun Micheel had one win in his entire career, but it was the US PGA. He still plays it every year, too. Good on him.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rich Beem seeing off Tiger Woods in the PGA that year was absolutely classic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_PGA_Championship

Some good nearly ones headed up by that as well. I mean, who the fuck is Bob May? And Tiger was probably playing the best golf that has ever been played.

[niko_cee]

I bet Westwood missed those other two practice putts as well. Save it for the course Lee!

[Ian]

There's a man in this called "Bryson DeChambreau" who looks like this (http://media.golfdigest.com/photos/5637d75544e1dda417ee7c90/master/pass/Bryson-DeChambeau-Profile.jpg)?

Lol.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Westwood with a ghastly three putt already. It must be Masters Sunday.

[niko_cee]

Aye. Never change Lee, never change.

I suppose being so comprehensively donned by Mike Ashley would be enough to drive lesser men out of the sport entirely.

[Foe]

Not an ideal start by the German.

[Baz]

Who's top 5?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shane Lowry can actually smile.

[Weaver]

Who's top 5?

Spieth -3
Kaufman -2
Day, Johnson, Langer, Willett, Matsuyama, Kjeldsen 0

[niko_cee]

No one quite goes to bits like our Rory.

Need someone to make a move or this is going to turn into a right shitmunching procession. Kaufman missing that putt at the first was criminal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'Mon the Asian lad.

[Giggles]

Davis Love :cool:

[Boydy]

Sat down to watch some of this and within five minutes Smylie was in among the trees so I've decided to just avoid it and hope for the best.

[Giggles]

I don't care if Westwood is a bottler, there's a birdie. Mon.

[Giggles]

Spieth is a putting machine so far. I was getting very nervous that McIlroy eagle might drop too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The fat Thai lad is making a charge :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sat down to watch some of this and within five minutes Smylie was in among the trees so I've decided to just avoid it and hope for the best.

Smylie's not winning the Masters. Fair play to him for this showing on a debut though.

Come on Willett. I used to like Spieth but he's a right knobhead these days.

[Giggles]

Kjeldsen would be fun to follow on a round.

[niko_cee]

Speith is such a putting succubus. He seemingly leaches the ability to putt from everyone else on the course.

[Giggles]

Speith is such a putting succubus. He seemingly leaches the ability to putt from everyone else on the course.

If it ever deserts him he won't make the cut in a major again.

[niko_cee]

I eagerly await the day he develops the yips.

Westy's on the charge!

Has a bit of a feel to that time Schwartzel went mental over the closing holes and won this. Someone needs to do something similar (not Speith).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'Mon Westwood you prick.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That one just then was the first good iron shot Spieth's hit all day. It's infuriating. I would love literally any of the challengers to beat him.

[niko_cee]

The problem at Augusta (and most American courses) is that it is fairly hard for him to hit a bad shot.

How did that tee shot on the par 3 just before end where it did? Must have been some sneaky patron cunt in the bushes to kick it back out.

[Giggles]

'Mon Westwood you prick.

It's on :nodd:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's fun when Rory has a meltdown.

[Max Power]

Has Butch Harmon said "ATTA BOY LEE" yet? That's when the collapse is imminent.

[Giggles]

That shot of McIlroy looking all cocky and the change to disbelief as it went for a swim has made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I need zinks old smiley.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That shot of McIlroy looking all cocky and the change to disbelief as it went for a swim has made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I need zinks old smiley.

It was a dreadful shot, taking on this pin at 11 has been a dreadful shot ever since they built the hole. He's been awful today.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There it is Lee. Call for the blinkers.

[Giggles]

There it is Lee. Call for the blinkers.

It's off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's seriously off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Peter Alliss talking about Premiership footballer hair cuts there was brilliant.

I love golf commentators.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The difference between Spieth and his pursuers mentally is absolutely colossal. Only hope here is Willett making a charge round the back 9, but even then Spieth will just bore his way to a 68 and win easily.

[Waffdon]

An absolute geezer.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's going to have to do a McIlroy on the back 9 to let others in.

Sadly I don't see that happening.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell :D

[Giggles]

Fucking hell :D

Near two in one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Even with this book in running:

http://i.imgur.com/gV89hCR.png

I'm still willing on a Spieth collapse. It's the others' fault, none of the mongs past -2.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's on the ropes :drool:

Hopefully.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If he pars 11 it's all over. Scoring holes beyond that.

Willett is superb, matter of time until he wins a biggie of some sort.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Willett is really going for this.

Hope he nails it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Spieth is seriously on the fucking ropes here, oh yes.

[Giggles]

We could have a finish here.

[niko_cee]

It was a dreadful shot, taking on this pin at 11 has been a dreadful shot ever since they built the hole. He's been awful today.

Has anyone ever 'had to take risks' and not just dumped it in the lake like an idiot? This applies to any number of holes on any number of courses. He had to go for it . . .

Hopefully Speith fucks his tee shot here.

Oh you little beauty. Is this where Rory went to bits?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's actually pulling a Rory, fucking hell this is glorious.

[Jimmy Floyd]

:drool:

Did not see this coming.

[Giggles]

Worth staying up for. I was so close to bed about 15 minutes ago :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gahahahahahahaha.

This is fucking magnificent.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's chunked that like a 28 handicapper. Absolutely pathetic.

[Giggles]

What the fuck? :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His head has absolutely gone :D

[Dark Soldier]

Holy fucking shit

[Max Power]

Hot damn this is a meltdown

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My 50p on Westwood E/W at 126 is looking tasty right now.

Lee :cool:

What a chip.

[Giggles]

Westwood you fucking legend.

It's on again Mahow

[hfswjyr]

Welp. Here we go then. Game on.

[Ian]

It's more due to Sunday night and not wanting to be arsed with anything else as I don't believe I have ever actively chosen to watch golf but I turned on just as Spieth briefly increased his seemingly safe lead and then the crumble began. It's been good viewing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Willett is playing some tasty stuff.

[Jimmy Floyd]

-5 wins it I think. -4, wouldn't rule out Spieth getting back to that. Come on Danny.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This is shaping up very nicely.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck you Westwood.

At least 365 are paying out for 4 places so I'll get something but you had a chance :(

[Jimmy Floyd]

Westwood into contention and then a 3 putt on the next hole, you say?

[Giggles]

Westwood into contention and then a 3 putt on the next hole, you say?

We keep letting him hurt us :(

[ItalAussie]

A week or two ago, I was looking over the golf rankings, and realised that this guy named "Danny Willett" had snuck up into just outside the top ten, despite me having never heard of him before.

Well, now I have.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The best thing about Spieth's collapse is that if he doesn't win, he'll have to go in the Butler Cabin and put the green jacket on whoever does.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Spieth is such a nonce.

Really fucking happy he shat the bed.

[Jimmy Floyd]

As bad as Spieth was at Amen Corner, Willett has been absolutely golden. This is so great.

Long wait for Jordan to come round...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:uhoh:

[Giggles]

Hopefully he drags this to the 18th before coming up just short.

[Jimmy Floyd]

17 you just don't birdie, especially not if you're trying too hard. 18 he could but depends if he's cool enough to play 17 for par.

[hfswjyr]

Here he comes...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:drool:

[Giggles]

Done and dusted.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What a great champion.

Chin up yanks.

[-james-]

This and the euros. It's all coming home.

[Baz]

Filming his FaceTime conversation is a bit weird.

[Jimmy Floyd]

From some hick screaming 'Get in the trees' when Willett drove down 18 to the absolute silence as Jordan hacks his way around 17, it's been a special few hours.

[GS]

Outstanding.

[Giggles]

Absolutely brilliant. That turned from shit Masters to great Masters so quickly.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Spieth bogeying on the 18th which makes it an English 1-2 before having to put the jacket on Danny would be brilliant.

[Giggles]

@P_J_Willett is well worth a look :D


http://www.balls.ie/golf/danny-willetts-brother-live-tweeted-the-masters-finale-and-it-was-a-roller-coaster-of-emotions/330256

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just remembered the 12th is called Golden Bell. lol.

[Baz]

Absolutely brilliant. That turned from shit Masters to great Masters so quickly.

This was the best bit: http://www.masters.com/en_US/watch/2016/r4_26329_16.html?promo=highlight_bio

[Giggles]

This was the best bit: http://www.masters.com/en_US/watch/2016/r4_26329_16.html?promo=highlight_bio

That was nuts. Never seen anything like it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Spieth :drool:

Glorious shit, he's proper seething.

[hfswjyr]

Definitely felt the seethe in the jacket presentation.

[ItalAussie]

I don't get disliking Spieth. I mean, there's plenty of golfers who are easy to dislike: Mickelson, (Bubba) Watson, Poulter, etc.

Spieth doesn't seem to have the personality, arrogance or drive to be that unlikeable.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I used to like him but since he lost the Open last year, he's behaved like a spoiled child on course. His interview on Friday night where he just whined about everything was a joke. He also has the sort of frat boy air about him that I find it very hard to warm to. He's also become incredibly slow, which is a big no no and the number one thing that turns people off golf. The last group finished almost two holes behind last night.

[John Arne]

I used to like him but since he lost the Open last year, he's behaved like a spoiled child on course. His interview on Friday night where he just whined about everything was a joke. He also has the sort of frat boy air about him that I find it very hard to warm to. He's also become incredibly slow, which is a big no no and the number one thing that turns people off golf. The last group finished almost two holes behind last night.

Where are you predictions from page 1 gone, Jimmy?

[phonics]

I went to bed because you lot made this sound like it was wrapped up.

[Weaver]

I fell asleep for the final spell (pretty much as soon as Willett finished his 18), so I didn't find out who won until this morning.

I'm shit at golf IRL, and I don't watch any other golf at any time of the year, but I think I've watched the Sunday of the Masters for four or five years running now. Hopefully the BBC keep some of the rights for a while yet, before Sky inevitably pinch it exclusively.

[Giggles]

The slowness, Jesus the slowness.

Not enough reason to dislike him, but there's just something.

[Giggles]

I fell asleep for the final spell (pretty much as soon as Willett finished his 18), so I didn't find out who won until this morning.

I'm shit at golf IRL, and I don't watch any other golf at any time of the year, but I think I've watched the Sunday of the Masters for four or five years running now. Hopefully the BBC keep some of the rights for a while yet, before Sky inevitably pinch it exclusively.

I'm horrendous but it's nice to know that a pro can do that one Spieth did after his drop on 12 too. That's my signature shot.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Where are you predictions from page 1 gone, Jimmy?

They are in the betting thread. All total bollocks. Apart from Fowler and Spieth failing :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

The slowness, Jesus the slowness.

Not enough reason to dislike him, but there's just something.

I find it a huge problem to be honest. They put him on the clock in one of the rounds and he got all snarky.

Others are worse though, Jason Day being a prime example.

[hfswjyr]

I'm with Ital on this one, where I can't see the reasoning behind the hate. I had put it down to people hating on the incumbent (I assume people complained that Tiger made the game look boring when he was in his prime?).

He's 22, polite and gracious whenever I've seen him (albeit through gritted teeth), and obviously a very talented golfer. No hate from me here.

First golf tournament I've watched in full, so clearly the slowness hasn't quite hit me yet. When's the next big one?

On another note, the course and weather in Georgia make me want to go there. Shame it's full of Americans really.

[Giggles]

Georgia makes Texas look forward thinking.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It was predictable with Tiger for a few years but he did it by taking the golf courses apart and blowing everyone away with aggressive brilliance. Spieth does it (nowhere near as well) through the avoidance of mistakes and robot putting inside 20 feet.

It's not that I hate Spieth per se, it's just that I'd rather see 90% of the field win ahead of him. Bubba, Fowler and Dustin Johnson are three of the exceptions.

Next major is the US Open at Oakmont in June. There are a few other biggies before then including the Players at Sawgrass in Florida, and over here, the PGA at Wentworth.

[niko_cee]

That was all very 2011.

Successful American golfers are almost always dislikeable in some way or other. It's just the way things are. It doesn't surprise me that antipodeans don't see this.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The current breed aren't even as bad as cunts of the past like Johnny Miller and Lanny Wadkins. Smearing them every two years in the Ryder Cup (and again this year, before anyone gets any ideas) is tremendous fun.

Westwood climbing to within touching distance of the final qualifying place with yesterday's result :drool:

[niko_cee]

US Open deteriorating into predictable shambles as per, so look out for the freak win. Maybe Lee will be able to play all of his remaining rounds back to back in favourable conditions. And still meff it up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Westwood and Garcia in the top ten early doors, will nothing ever change. Can probably add DJ to that list as well.

Reckon even par wins it, although they were saying +5 would win it before it rained. The US Open is such a rubbish tournament.

[niko_cee]

Oh dear Lee.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Westwood and Dustbin going out in the penultimate group is almost beyond parody. Lee already in Sunday reverse ferret.

Hoping Lowry wins this.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just flicked back over to Westwood missing a three footer for bogey.

It's nice to have some constants in life.

[niko_cee]

This is such a classic piece of shit US course. 300 yard par 3s? Do fuck off. Not to mention the rest of it. I never really understand why the USGA are all about trying to make their Open so stupidly difficult. Just setting a course up to be nigh on impossible isn't the ultimate test of anything.

[niko_cee]

Whisper it quietly but old Sergio might be onto something here.

[ItalAussie]

Jimmy's man finally brought it home.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In a way only he could, by having a ridiculous rules dispute hanging over him for the whole round. The USGA are absolute wankers.


Whisper it quietly but old Sergio might be onto something here.

Now that really was daft talk.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I see he went full bottle after I went to bed. After picking up some good shots around the turn.

Just look at that final round from Westy. Dear lord.

[Giggles]

Do the BBC have any of the Open or is it exclusive on satellite?

[niko_cee]

Radio and online only by the looks of things. How has that happened?

[Giggles]

Radio and online only by the looks of things. How has that happened?

The Sky machine. Utter pain in the bollocks.

[Jimmy Floyd]

All on Sky, for the same reason every other decent sport is on Sky. The R&A have made a massive strategic error here though, even cricket can just about get away with being on Sky, I'm not sure golf can. Look at Wimbledon, a fundamentally terrible sport with one good British player, but literally everyone goes on about it for 2 weeks a year because it's on free to air.

In other news, Montgomerie leads :uhoh:

[Baz]

Stream it on Mobdro, Giggles?

Monty. :cool:

[Giggles]

Stream it on Mobdro, Giggles?

Monty. :cool:

Yeah I'll hopefully catch some of it, but I've never had any sporting event last on there without disappearing.

[Dark Soldier]

http://www.streamgaroo.com/live-television/united-kingdom/sky-sports-1-live-stream

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bubba -5 through 7, then hits the Postage Stamp and makes triple bogey :cool:

Rory in the same group -4, ominous.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ichihara :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dustbin :harold:

[Giggles]

Been watching on grainy Mobdro and just realised this is on Sky1 all day :face:

Edit: And EirSport have full Irish rights and are showing all 4 days on their free channel :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Scotland should just give Troon to America.

[Giggles]

That massive illustration under the players name showing what shot they're on, in a big row of numbers rather than just one number, is the stupidest thing I've seen.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just watched Spieth make double bogey at the Postage Stamp, staying in a bunker and then missing a 6 footer for a four. What times we live in.

[niko_cee]

Good to see Westwood really making the most of being on the good side of the tee time draw.

At least it isn't some Oosthiuzen style no-mark who has taken advantage of conditions, but I could do with Keegan Bradley having an absolute nightmare at some point. +12 for little Louis?

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The postage stamp is taking no prisoners today.

It's fucking brutal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and 'beef's' beard is a disgrace.

[Giggles]

This not being in BBC has killed it for me.

[Kikó]

Yeah but it's much better being on pay tv. Like the cricket and F1, both booming with watchers.

[Giggles]

Yeah but it's much better being on pay tv. Like the cricket and F1, both booming with watchers.

It's too long an event to settle in and watch when there's so many ad breaks. Even the F1 is a bit balls now with them (though there are many other reasons it's shitter now).

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sky doesn't have ads during F1 races.

The people who run sports love pay TV because it gives THEM money to spend on the sport, but they fail to realise that that doesn't help attract new followers, just existing ones. Cricket is just about big enough to survive it, but golf is going to really struggle. Golf also has the problem of being run by 75 year old fucks who don't understand the modern world.

There is another side of the argument (primarily from cricket) in which they've basically used the Sky money to create a much better setup and infrastructure for women's cricket, which they couldn't have done otherwise, so you can't really knock that.

[Giggles]

I don't watch either on Sky, both F1 and the golf are in free to air here, but both are still so much better on the BBC.
I can understand the need for advertising and getting as much money as possible, but it's still worse for the viewer.

[leedsrevolution]

Paid tv absolutely ruins sport. I used to love F1 and now I've lost all interest. I used to watch the major golf tournaments as well, but simply can't anymore (not streaming golf ffs) just seems a shame.

[GS]

As Jimmy says, it's a trade off between grassroots and wider appeal. If it was always on free to air, you'd have people complaining that the grassroots are being neglected through lack of investment - which they wouldn't have the capacity to provide without pay TV.

Wimbledon is on free to air TV, but you don't see people down at the tennis courts outside one month a year when there's a sudden surge of interest. The Olympics was going to lead to a huge surge in interest in track and field in this country, for example - there's probably not a huge body of evidence to suggest that it has.

It's difficult to know which side of the line to fall on, really. I'd probably edge towards grassroots as they're the people actually going out and playing the game, and making a financial contribution themselves to it through membership fees and time commitment - not just wanting something to put on in the background.

I suspect you're never going to get the balance right.

[Giggles]

As Jimmy says, it's a trade off between grassroots and wider appeal. If it was always on free to air, you'd have people complaining that the grassroots are being neglected through lack of investment - which they wouldn't have the capacity to provide without pay TV.

Wimbledon is on free to air TV, but you don't see people down at the tennis courts outside one month a year when there's a sudden surge of interest. The Olympics was going to lead to a huge surge in interest in track and field in this country, for example - there's probably not a huge body of evidence to suggest that it has.

It's difficult to know which side of the line to fall on, really. I'd probably edge towards grassroots as they're the people actually going out and playing the game, and making a financial contribution themselves to it through membership fees and time commitment - not just wanting something to put on in the background.

I suspect you're never going to get the balance right.

Aren't the likes of golf, tennis, motor racing etc fairly exclusive to the high society with money though? So TV won't really effect grass roots.

Been watching another bit of this, where is it next year? I think this course is a lot of the reason it's low in appeal too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love when Rory fucks up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Keep hoping for Mickelson to shit the bed but he's not, he's going to win isn't he? :(

[Giggles]

I love when Rory fucks up.

That club break made yesterday.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That club break made yesterday.
It was fucking brilliant.

I quite like the Northern Irish but his seethes and disappointment are great to watch.

[Giggles]

It was fucking brilliant.

I quite like the Northern Irish but his seethes and disappointment are great to watch.

It's not so much the nationality with him either. McDowell is a bit of a legend but, where he wears it well and has a bit of swagger, McIlroy just seems like a petulant little brat.

[Giggles]

Pity that drive didn't go a foot further to make it interesting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Glad that Mickleson didn't win.

Our new Swedish overlords though :cool:

[ItalAussie]

Looks like a hell of a final round. Glad Stenson got a major win, and it's a good one, too.

[niko_cee]

That's easily the best final round of golf I've ever seen in a major, probably the best two, although Mickelson was aided by some crowd assistance and remarkable scrambling. Stenson must have made about 3 genuine errors in the round and two of those were leaving very long putts a bit short. Felt like he hit about 17 greens in regulation and the fact that he meffed a couple of makeable 6-footers that would have been for a 61/62 in the final analysis is mad. I guess that must be at least the equal lowest final round score at a major.

[ItalAussie]

Yep. It's only happened once before. And nobody's ever gotten 62 in a major.

[Giggles]

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[Giggles]

Love this Woburn course. Do they have the men's there ever or is that exclusively links now?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They had the British Masters on it last year. The Open has always been exclusively links.

[Giggles]

They had the British Masters on it last year. The Open has always been exclusively links.

Yeah there was something in my head telling me that alright.
Because of Wentworth the PGA would be my favourite outside the majors but a regular Masters at Woburn would help too. Is there another tournament that's been there too? I've one in my head from a while back but it's not the Masters one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There used to be a Euro tour event there every year but not for a decade or so. The reformed British Masters is going to move around as well, this year it's at Grove hosted by Luke Donald in what promises to be an absolute thrill a minute.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Matsuyama :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Fat Pat on the march, come on you burger-eating ridiculous cunt of a man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's a hero who would fit in so well here.

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Well not anymore.

[niko_cee]

Mickelson currently playing the best opening hole in the history of golf. Road, cart path, someone's backyard . . .

:D

Westy on THE CHARGE. Realistically, what kind of lead does he need going into a 4th round to have a chance? 6 shots? It'd be Darren Clarke at The Open times a million.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's a man of the people who plays in and amongst them.

The crowd cheering only for it to end up in the backyard was amazing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Westy on THE CHARGE. Realistically, what kind of lead does he need going into a 4th round to have a chance? 6 shots? It'd be Darren Clarke at The Open times a million.

I reckon the scale of his collapse is proportionate to how likely he is to win. Has he ever taken a decent lead (3 shots+) into a final round? My memory of Turnberry is fairly hazy as I was at the course and didn't have up to date leaderboards very often, but he seemed to be well on top there at different points and I remember going away thinking he should have won.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I draw a bit of a blank on Westwood final rounds. He very often seems to be in the position where you think if he can stick a 67 or somesuch in then he'll be right there, only for him to plod round with a disappointing 73. Agree on the collapse to prospect of winning ratio, which makes me think he could onmly ever do it in a Faldo-esque 18 pars sort of way, which would either need a big lead, or for everyone else to have a meltdown. Not sure which is less likely really. Probably the 18 pars.

[Giggles]

I always wanted Westwood to win one, but even more so if it's true that it costs Mike Ashley two million quid.

[Jimmy Floyd]

To fair, 90% of golfers, when given a sniff of victory, completely shit themselves. There are even some with multiple wins who do it. It's the ones who don't who are remarkable.

[Giggles]

To fair, 90% of golfers, when given a sniff of victory, completely shit themselves. There are even some with multiple wins who do it. It's the ones who don't who are remarkable.

Even look at this year so far. Two of them absolute bottle jobs of the highest order.

[niko_cee]

I always wanted Westwood to win one, but even more so if it's true that it costs Mike Ashley two million quid.

Didn't he have the same deal Clarke did whereby they basically worked for nowt but got x million quid per major? Safe to say they've been donned senseless by that deal. For someone who has all the airs of a dole scrounger Ashley isn't half shrewd.

[Giggles]

He was always decked in Dunlop too, so I'd imagine so.

That was some recovery 2nd from Day.

[Giggles]

Absolutely serious pressure putt from McIlroy there too. Outstanding after that bunker shot.

EDIT: Though the 18th was a bit lol. Beautiful.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not as fun when Rory misses the cut.

There's something special about him going full mong on the final day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Branden Grace is ONIT here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My money's on Henrik.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What could have been if Matsuyama could putt.

[Giggles]

Definitely not leaving this one before it's over.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If Summerhays rocks up with two late birdies, posts 11 and wins, everyone will cry and it will be glorious.

Jimmy Dubs alas has a bottle job in him.

[Giggles]

American golf fans are such tossbags.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Summer Hayes is such a shit surname, it's the full name of a teenage female.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

American golf fans are such tossbags.

I fucking loved it when Harmon was saying some should be thrown out. They're fucking awful.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Mark Roe is the worst commentator in any sport, by far. I wish he would fuck off.

Butch might be the best. ATTABOY RICKIE

[Giggles]

I tend to agree with Jimmy on JW. It's going all too well right now to last.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Matsuyama could have carded a 61 today if he was able to putt. He keeps grazing the hole.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd quite like Walker to win but the only pity would be that it would knock Matt Kuchar, the weakest loseriest tit around, out of the Ryder Cup team.

Rickie Fowler is going to need a pick for that. lol, tosser.

[Giggles]

Matsuyama again :D

[Giggles]

Starting to look like nobody has it in them to put any real pressure on Walker.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell, I don't understand how he's been so shit on the green. Probably the jynx of putting money on.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's going to need Walker to go wobbly arse, no sign of it yet though. His classic bottle jobs are usually round-long so he might be alright.

[Giggles]

It's going to need Walker to go wobbly arse, no sign of it yet though. His classic bottle jobs are usually round-long so he might be alright.

All on Day now by the looks of it.

[Giggles]

Day's shots look like he's protecting a 4 shot lead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I get some money if Matsuyama finishes in the top 6.

No birdies for anyone please.

[Giggles]

This promised so much :(

[Jimmy Floyd]

The PGA is generally the worst major, as they set the courses up noticeably easier than the other three. There have been some exceptions. Like that time some passing burger flipper took Tiger Woods into a playoff. Or the one when Dustin Johnson spaffed a two shot lead in an unmarked bunker.

[Giggles]

The PGA is generally the worst major, as they set the courses up noticeably easier than the other three. There have been some exceptions. Like that time some passing burger flipper took Tiger Woods into a playoff. Or the one when Dustin Johnson spaffed a two shot lead in an unmarked bunker.

Where was that course with the random bunkers? Michigan?

Whole thing was such a farce.

[Giggles]

Walker has looked in complete control through all this. The body language as much as the shots.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wouldn't mind a playoff here.

[Giggles]

Wouldn't mind a playoff here.

What gives us that, 4 from here?