Mobile Phone Thread

[Giggles]

Your phone is safe for now Magic.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18633171/huawei-software-updates-phones-google-android-commerce-department

[Magic]

Always too good to be true. Bastard.

[Giggles]

Always too good to be true. Bastard.

It's no more than a bit of US dick swinging most likely. I'd put the likelihood of nothing changing at 99.99%.

[Magic]

Lol I've had like 3 SECURITY UPDATES this week.

[Giggles]

At least they're still doing them. I'd a free one due from work and still took the Huawei. It'll all be a load of nothing.

[Smjffy]

That's reassuring given I bought a cheap one a couple of weeks ago. Some P Smart version which isn't too bad for the cost. I text and use WhatsApp so I doubt not using the Playstore will effect me much even if it happened. Or am I well wrong? I don't even know what's happening except something about privacy and bears giving Google the sly eyes.

[Magic]

Yeah it's a disaster, basically they can't put full Android on, all the apps in the store, maps, Google home etc.

[igor_balis]

Paging Giggles.

I can get the S10+ with 30gb data for £40/month, or pre-order the S10 5G for £46/month for 30gb data (both are only £50 for the handset upfront).

Do I:

Go for the s10+ right now

Go for the S10 5G

Wait for the S10 5G to be released, then get the S10+

I doubt my provincial town will even have 5G coverage for ages, but it's probably gonna be a noticeably better phone just for the other specs, shirley?

[Giggles]

What have you now? If it's decent at all I'd wait.

Or wait for a Note 10 which won't be too long after the 5G.

[igor_balis]

What have you now? If it's decent at all I'd wait.

Or wait for a Note 10 which won't be too long after the 5G.

Moto g 5+, more than adequate

[Giggles]

The battery on this P30 Pro is unreal, never had anything remotely close. Been off the charger 20½ hours with screen usage of 7hr35 and there's still 44% sitting on it.

[Pepe]

We'll see how it holds in a year.

[Giggles]

I won't have it in 6 months.

[Pepe]

Why not?

[Giggles]

I change more regularly than that normally. Both the Note 10 and Pixel 4 Wil be out by October.

[Pepe]

You change phone every six months? Aren't modern phones like a thousand dollars?

[Giggles]

You change phone every six months? Aren't modern phones like a thousand dollars?

It's like a lad buying an 8k telly when he can see the one he has already, or someone buying a bicycle with a carbon frame when the wheels still turn on his old one. Basically I want to and, at the moment anyway, I can.

I get some from work and some for testing also, but I count them as in-between bonuses.

[Pepe]

Fair enough. Six months seems like a really short period, but whatever. I definitely spend far more money on shit that I use far, far less.

[igor_balis]

what do you actually use your phones for giggles?

[Pepe]

Taking pictures of his food/beer.

[Giggles]

what do you actually use your phones for giggles?

Work (I don't bother with two numbers), 95% of my internet use, my only camera, my only sat nav, my only media player, correspondencee.

[Magic]

Lawl my PlayStore became unaccessible. :(

[Giggles]

You must have done something then because even worse case scenario, nothing happens until the end of August.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mine's fine.

[Magic]

You must have done something then because even worse case scenario, nothing happens until the end of August.

Mates P20 was the same.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im looking for a new phone. I want to move away from iPhone now. I just need a phone with strong battery life. Ive got a SIM Only deal right now, but im open to a contract if neccesary.

[SincereTheRebel]

I want to Avoid Samsung. I like the look of something from Sony, or that OnePlus.

[phonics]

I want to Avoid Samsung. I like the look of something from Sony, or that OnePlus.

https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p30_lite-9545.php

Is the one my friends are currently saying is cheap and good.

[Boydy]

Yeah, couple of people in my old work had Huawei phones and they said the battery life was great - would last two days.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive heard a few things about that handset and that website looks decent to compare.

*I don't care how good the cameras are because I don't take pictures
*4k video output
*Headphone jack
*Fuck Apple and Samsung

[SincereTheRebel]

My budget is also about £300.

[SincereTheRebel]

The HONOR handsets looks decent. The 8X and PLAY versions look good

https://www.hihonor.com/uk/product/honor-8X
https://www.hihonor.com/uk/product/honor-play

[SincereTheRebel]

I would have liked the OnePLus 6 but you cant get it anywhere that I can trust

[SincereTheRebel]

Went with the mate 20 lite in the end for £175

[Eappenty]

Can you recommend some useful mobile phone software?

[phonics]

Well this blokes already got his bot software sorted out.

[Giggles]

Can you recommend some useful mobile phone software?

Grindr and Two Dots.

[Disco]

I worked out I had my last phone for more than 8 years.

[phonics]

I'm still on a release-day iPhone 6 so that must be quite old at this point. Maybe I should stop moaning about the battery,

[Kikó]

I have realised and confirmed, being only on 3G on my pixel massively extends the battery life. Plus, avast or AVG sucks all my battery life so I've uninstalled it.

[Giggles]

Never installing a third party anti virus is always a good start. Avast isn't too spammy but there's really no need for them, especially on a Pixel.

[Giggles]

3 days with an iPad and I'm already eyeing up the next iPhone release :drool:

[Eappenty]

Grindr and Two Dots.
Sorry i am not taling about gaming software,i'm not being specific, I'm talking about application.

[Giggles]

Sorry i am not taling about gaming software,i'm not being specific, I'm talking about application.

Avast or AVG.

[Baz]

3 days with an iPad and I'm already eyeing up the next iPhone release :drool:Why so good?

[Giggles]

After another few days it’s not without it’s annoyances (copying and pasting is a nightmare), but mainly because I never realised all the Google stuff works so seamlessly on iOS plus they’ve fixed most of the things in iOS13 I hated when I tried it previously (proper LastPass integration and a half decent file system for starters).

I always said that apple stuff is for people that aren’t really into phones, and the less interested I’m finding myself in phones the more that’s ringing true.

[Giggles]

That new iPad is seriously good looking at $329.


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[Giggles]

They’ve also just invented night mode and wide angle cameras.

[Giggles]

At $700 they’re going to sell an absolute shitload of iPhone 11’s. Rebranding the XR into the main product line at that price is a good move.

[Waffdon]

I’m due an upgrade so that’ll do nicely.

[Raoul Duke]

iPhone 11 Pro and the Series 5 watch for me I think. Looks like a nice upgrade on what I've currently got and means I can pick up the generation-after-next for when 5G is maybe a thing.

[Giggles]

It all looks good but there was nothing enough there for me to jump straight away before waiting to see what the Pixel 4 is like. Might still end up with one but definitely worth waiting the month first now.

[bruhnaldo]

I've had my phone 4 years this year (6s+), is this the iphone to upgrade or should i just keep trucking along?

[Giggles]

The 6S is now end of life for updates I think so if that matters to you then now is the time. The regular 11 or XR would be a big upgrade over the 6S.

[Giggles]

Actually scratch that bruhnaldo, the 6S is iOS13 compatible. Though the second point still stands.


IOS 13 COMPATIBLE DEVICES

iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone X
iPhone 8
iPhone 8 Plus
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus
iPhone 6S
iPhone 6S Plus
iPhone SE
iPod Touch (seventh generation)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm not a twat so I'll stick to Android.

[Raoul Duke]

We've kinda hit the point now where the tech has plateaued in yearly increments. I'm a massive tech nerd and I don't bother upgrading every year as there's rarely enough to warrant it.

You'd definitely notice it from a 6S to any of these though.

[SincereTheRebel]

Have they announced a screen on the rear of the phone yet?

[bruhnaldo]

The 6S is now end of life for updates I think so if that matters to you then now is the time. The regular 11 or XR would be a big upgrade over the 6S.


We've kinda hit the point now where the tech has plateaued in yearly increments. I'm a massive tech nerd and I don't bother upgrading every year as there's rarely enough to warrant it.

You'd definitely notice it from a 6S to any of these though.

Cheers fellas I'll probably look into it then.

[Giggles]

Have they announced a screen on the rear of the phone yet?

Apple haven't but there are a few options if you want that.

[Giggles]

https://youtu.be/vzB-rxPF6cw

[igor_balis]

My 10+ is pretty great, though after povvo smartphones anything half decent would have impressed me tbf. They need to improve battery though, I'd happily carry around something much bulkier if it lasted a couple of days.

[Giggles]

My 10+ is pretty great, though after povvo smartphones anything half decent would have impressed me tbf. They need to improve battery though, I'd happily carry around something much bulkier if it lasted a couple of days.

I'm charging a P30 Pro every couple of days but things are a bit sketchy with Huawei still. Just get a wireless charger for all the places you be.

[Baz]

Been asked by my wife’s mate if it’s possible for someone to “hack” your WhatsApp? Her ex seems to know very specific info and she thinks he can see her messages.

[Raoul Duke]

Been asked by my wife’s mate if it’s possible for someone to “hack” your WhatsApp? Her ex seems to know very specific info and she thinks he can see her messages.

In so much that it's possible for someone to know your password - sure. There's also a desktop version, so possibly someone could have access to that too.

Go to Settings > Account and turn on Two Factor Authentication and that'll lock other devices out unless they have permission.

[Spikey M]

The government are unable to "hack" WhatsApp, so I doubt Joe Bloggs can.

[Giggles]

They’ve most likely seen the messages on the handset at either end.

[niko_cee]

Parent needs a new smart phone, nothing too fancy, but, at the same time, they're not complete mongs so don't need 'big buttons' style shite.

Dual sim is a must.

Are Hauweis going to become completely unusable once Google withdraw support/access to the playstore etc?

[Giggles]

Parent needs a new smart phone, nothing too fancy, but, at the same time, they're not complete mongs so don't need 'big buttons' style shite.

Dual sim is a must.

Are Hauweis going to become completely unusable once Google withdraw support/access to the playstore etc?

Existing ones will be ok but the official line is that new ones won't have Google services. My thinking is that it'll get sorted eventually. The Samsung A50 is worth a look depending on price range, dual SIM too. If the Nokia 7.2 is dual SIM (not sure) it's getting great reviews too but more expensive than the Samsung.

[Giggles]

https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/samsung-galaxy-a50-a505fd-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-sim-free-unlocked-blue.html

€270.

[Baz]

In so much that it's possible for someone to know your password - sure. There's also a desktop version, so possibly someone could have access to that too.

Go to Settings > Account and turn on Two Factor Authentication and that'll lock other devices out unless they have permission.Well his snapchat story mentions her being fingered in Greggs, which the woman recently reminisced about with her new flame, so he’s definitely got access. :lol: I’ve forwarded your message.

[Mike]

Just ordered the iPhone 11 in red, upgrading from a 7 :cool2:

[Gray Fox]

Looks like it has a much better battery, camera is always an upgrade but from drop tests it seems hard to break the glass.

[Giggles]

I’m still weighing up the 11 or the Pro Max, but probably won’t do anything until I see what the Pixel 4 is like next month. The 11 would probably do.

[Raoul Duke]

I had a play around with the Pro + Pro Max. Found the former the right size and the latter too big. The green colour is lovely.

[Giggles]

The size of the regular 11 is ideal for me. If it had type C and Apple Maps wasn’t dogshit I probably wouldn’t wait for the Google launch at all.

[Raoul Duke]

I bought a Qi charging pad the other day. The future is cable-free :drool:

[bruhnaldo]

The size of the regular 11 is ideal for me. If it had type C and Apple Maps wasn’t dogshit I probably wouldn’t wait for the Google launch at all.

why not just download google maps tho? i literally never use apple's maps

[Giggles]

why not just download google maps tho? i literally never use apple's maps

Apparently you have to use Apple Maps in the new version of Car Play {or at the very least they make it much more difficult not to) which would be a disaster.



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[Baz]

Apparently you have to use Apple Maps in the new version of Car Play {or at the very least they make it much more difficult not to) which would be a disaster.



.Yep. And it's still dreadful.

[Giggles]

Yep. And it's still dreadful.

That would be a major deterrent for me as I use Android Auto every day in work and Apple Maps doesn't have our postcodes built in to it's database. You'd like to think they'll fix it and allow Google Maps to be used in the car but they've been pushing Apple Maps like made lately so may remain stubborn on it.

Another thing is that my new van with the head unit still hasn't arrived so I'm using AA on my P30 at the moment but Apple don't have a handset version of Carplay.

[Waffdon]

Ordered just the IPhone 11 today, didn’t bother with the Pro Max as I’m saving £20 a month with just the 11 on what I was paying for the X.

As long as it’s smoother and a better battery life I’m happy.

[phonics]

If the X wasn't smooth enough for you then I'm not sure the 11 is going to fix your issues. It's a slightly upgraded chipset but it's going to have to do almost twice the resolution.

[Giggles]

Vastly superior camera regardless.

[Mike]

Ordered just the IPhone 11 today, didn’t bother with the Pro Max as I’m saving £20 a month with just the 11 on what I was paying for the X.

As long as it’s smoother and a better battery life I’m happy.

Just set mine up, moving from a 7 and it seems boss! Getting to grips with all the swipe to replace a button has come so easily too, I’d been worried about that and Face ID, which is also working perfectly.

[Raoul Duke]

iOS 13.1 out today which has a bunch of fixes in, if you'd been holding off updating. iPad OS too.

[Giggles]

Just installed it there. I didn't realise I needed to delete the beta profile to get it to show up. I'm not seeing any differences from beta 4 anyway but I think people are still seeing sync and bluetooth issues on the stable releases.

[igor_balis]

Parent needs a new smart phone, nothing too fancy, but, at the same time, they're not complete mongs so don't need 'big buttons' style shite.

Dual sim is a must.

Are Hauweis going to become completely unusable once Google withdraw support/access to the playstore etc?

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/mobile/phones/pay-as-you-go/vodafone/smart-v10

had a vodafone smart thing before and it's quality for the price.

[Raoul Duke]

Just installed it there. I didn't realise I needed to delete the beta profile to get it to show up. I'm not seeing any differences from beta 4 anyway but I think people are still seeing sync and bluetooth issues on the stable releases.

New volume control :drool:

[Giggles]

New volume control :drool:

I don't know what the old way was but I remember when Google let you select to use the hardware buttons for media rather than ringer volume it was the greatest thing ever. Is it similar?

[Raoul Duke]

Old: https://www.macworld.com/article/2030115/how-to-control-the-volume-in-ios.html

New: https://i.redd.it/kl8eczbo77231.jpg

It's more that it doesn't clog up the screen all the frickin time

[Giggles]

That HP Chromebook 14 free with the Pixel 4 in the UK is a way better deal than we’re getting.

[niko_cee]

Ok Giggles, I have another one for you, largely the same as the last question - decent smartphone, not break the bank stuff, but no strict requirement for dual sim, under £200. What do you recommend?

[Giggles]

Probably one of the Redmi’s but if you wanted something with cleaner software and updates then the Nokia 6.2 (4GB version).

[Giggles]

Redmi Note 8 was the one I was thinking of.

The Xiaomi Mi 9T is a beast of a thing for probably very little more than £200 too.


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[niko_cee]

Cheers.

[Giggles]

Cancelled my Pixel 4XL order after the reviews but there's probably not a single alternative out there I'd buy instead at this stage.

[Mike]

The battery on my iPhone 11 amazes me, I can’t imagine how good the Pro Max must be.
I took it off charge at 8am Saturday and it finally died, without using battery saver mode, at 4pm Sunday. With pretty heavy usage at times.

[Giggles]

That's the main reason I can't go for that Pixel. I've got so used to not caring about battery with the P30 Pro that I don't think I could go back.

[Bernanke]

Think I'm gunning for a Pixel 3 or 3a during Black Friday to replace my cracked Honor 8. Not much of an upgrade but at least my screen will be whole again.

[Gray Fox]

I think I'm ready to rejoin THE ECOSYSTEM.

My contract is up in a couple of months and my Pixel 2XL is showing a bit of age. The battery life isn't what it used to be and the lock button is quite temperamental. I was holding out hope for the 4. However it doesn't seem like that much of an upgrade on the 3.

Looking at the iPhone 11 range and they have the battery life I crave it seems. The camera(s) seem just as good as, if not better than what I have now and I don't fuss about with customisation to the point where I'd miss it.

My question is the 11 v the 11 pro. The Max is too big for me. My 2XL is probably a smidge too big for my hands, so the 11 Pro would be perfect size wise. But is the extra cost worth what is essentially 1 extra camera I'll rarely use and a better resolution screen? That's what I'm debating now.

I'd also want the watch. I never thought I'd get on with one, but even the Gear Fit 2 I'm using now is very useful in a work place where my phone isn't allowed out. I've never paid much attention to them though so I've no idea on the differences between generations. Is the series 3 going to be just as useful to me as say the 4?

[Raoul Duke]

If you're not fussed about the camera then I'd go with the 11 and the Series 3. If you want the new shiny shiny then I'd go with the Pro and the Series 4.

I tried the Pro Max in the store and found it too massive.

[Giggles]

Is the camera on the regular 11 not pretty much the same as the Pro for the majority of shots?

The Gear Fit will work to a certain extent with the iPhone too.

[Gray Fox]

Having looked deeper, the 2 cameras on the 11 are the exact same as the relative 2 on the Pro/Max. The Ultra Wide being added on is the only difference camera wise.

I doubt I'd use that Ultrawide more than twice a year past the first day, trying it out.

The 11 is probably going to be the same size as my 2XL. The 11 does have a bigger display but no top and bottom speakers like I have now.

So the only difference really is that screen. The 11 pro can actually do full HD and has an OLED panel. Whereas the 11 is an LCD job that can just about manage 720p.


As for the watch. For some reason they've discontinued the 4 series but not the 3. Probably as there doesn't seem to be any real upgrade in the 5 besides always-on mode. The 3 being down to £200 makes that a tempter.

[Giggles]

Having looked deeper, the 2 cameras on the 11 are the exact same as the relative 2 on the Pro/Max. The Ultra Wide being added on is the only difference camera wise.

I doubt I'd use that Ultrawide more than twice a year past the first day, trying it out.

The 11 is probably going to be the same size as my 2XL. The 11 does have a bigger display but no top and bottom speakers like I have now.

So the only difference really is that screen. The 11 pro can actually do full HD and has an OLED panel. Whereas the 11 is an LCD job that can just about manage 720p.


As for the watch. For some reason they've discontinued the 4 series but not the 3. Probably as there doesn't seem to be any real upgrade in the 5 besides always-on mode. The 3 being down to £200 makes that a tempter.

The 11 has the wide angle. It’s the telephoto that’s extra on the 11 Pro. I’ve an 11 out for delivery myself.



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[Gray Fox]

I'm looking forward to see what you make of the battery. I've heard great things and it's the first time in recent memory that a manufacturer has made their phone thicker for the sake of it.

[Giggles]

I'm looking forward to see what you make of the battery. I've heard great things and it's the first time in recent memory that a manufacturer has made their phone thicker for the sake of it.

It’s the main reason I’m chancing getting one, I looked at Oneplus, Note 10, etc but other android phone with good battery can match the Pixel for camera. I had the Pixel 4XL for a while and it was brilliant but I don’t think I could cope with the battery coming from a P30 Pro. iOS is going to take some getting used to though and I’m going to miss the fuck out of Android Auto for work.

[Mike]

Still loving my 11, it’s such a huge upgrade from the 7 for sure.

[CJay]

Fox - I have the series 3 and I would say, despite the obviously much more appealing price point, you should go for a series 4 or series 5. The difference in the screen sizes is huge. The series 3 screen is small and rectangular, while the 4 and 5 kind of expand out to the corners of the device. Much more pleasing on the eye and they pack more information in too.

The series 3 barely sees any updates in terms of watch faces now because most of the useful new watch faces don’t fit the smaller rectangular screen of the 3.

I would only recommend a series 3 if you really want a smart watch / fitness tracker but are severely limited by budget.

My two cents.

[Giggles]

Good few omissions in this that I'm used to from Android but it's still a nice piece of kit. For such a poor spec display on paper it's lovely in reality.

[Gray Fox]

Fox - I have the series 3 and I would say, despite the obviously much more appealing price point, you should go for a series 4 or series 5. The difference in the screen sizes is huge. The series 3 screen is small and rectangular, while the 4 and 5 kind of expand out to the corners of the device. Much more pleasing on the eye and they pack more information in too.

The series 3 barely sees any updates in terms of watch faces now because most of the useful new watch faces don’t fit the smaller rectangular screen of the 3.

I would only recommend a series 3 if you really want a smart watch / fitness tracker but are severely limited by budget.

My two cents.

The Gear Fit 2 I have now is pretty basic in everything so I don't think it would be a massive issue in terms of faces and things, but the screen stuff is useful info. I have more stubby fingers so the extra room would be good for me.


Good few omissions in this that I'm used to from Android but it's still a nice piece of kit. For such a poor spec display on paper it's lovely in reality.

I take it you went for the standard 11 then?

I'm very interested to what you think of it as if I remember rightly you were also on the Pixel train before the 4 was revealed.

[Giggles]

I take it you went for the standard 11 then?

I'm very interested to what you think of it as if I remember rightly you were also on the Pixel train before the 4 was revealed.

For the most part it’s excellent. Hardware as expected is top notch, iOS is very easy to use and it all runs smooth, camera is excellent (not as good as the Pixel 4 in low light but close enough), Face ID makes me never want to use a fingerprint scanner again, and it’s the perfect size for me (I don’t think I’d like the Pro as it’d be too small).

The few things I miss so far:
- Assistant. Siri is absolutely rubbish. It’s handy that you can install Assistant and use it and the Siri shortcut to Assistant is handy for voice use but it hasn’t the same functionality as you have on an Android phone.
- I missed proper notifications and the notification bar but I’ve found over even a couple of days I’ve been getting used to how it works. A lot of the time I’ll have loads and not even know until I accidentally find them but I assume that’s just settings.
- Android Auto. There’s no on-phone driving mode meaning that if you’re navigating with Google Maps and someone rings it covers it up and you’ve to risk touching the phone to get maps back. Won’t be too big an issue soon as I’m getting a new car with Auto and Carplay but I believe they tie you to the pointless Apple Maps on that.
- Apart from those I’d say little things like no back button, or all the settings not being in the apps are just going to have to be got used to.

After the few days with the Pixel 4XL, if the battery had been better I’d definitely prefer that over the iphone but I’d say a lot of it is familiarity.

EDIT - Oh and my Gear S3 works perfectly fine with the 11. I’d say I’m actually getting better notifications from it than I was from the P30 Pro.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

My phone knowledge is limited and I'm after a recommendation.

I have an ageing iphone 5 that I got off the other half a few years ago and it just seems noticeably slower and clunkier than it used to.

Don't do contracts, I've always been a PAYG luddite at £15 a month and I've preferred the apple phone to all the previous android phones I've had.

Any suggestions on a replacement for £200 or less?

I like the size of the 5 and could do with a half-decent camera, couldn't give a shit about things like wireless charging and facial recognition etc.

[CJay]

My phone knowledge is limited and I'm after a recommendation.

I have an ageing iphone 5 that I got off the other half a few years ago and it just seems noticeably slower and clunkier than it used to.

Don't do contracts, I've always been a PAYG luddite at £15 a month and I've preferred the apple phone to all the previous android phones I've had.

Any suggestions on a replacement for £200 or less?

I like the size of the 5 and could do with a half-decent camera, couldn't give a shit about things like wireless charging and facial recognition etc.

iPhone-wise your only option is an iPhone SE. I don’t think you can get them new anymore, but getting a used one and getting a new battery might be a good idea. One thing to consider is that it’s 2015/2016 era phone so it’s not modern, even though it’s a big upgrade on what you currently have. The SE runs on the latest OS, but may get dropped next year (or it may not!). Using an iPhone 5 I assume that’s not much of an issue for you anyway though.

The other option is to go for a slightly bigger phone - like a 7 or 8. You can probably get a used 7 for less than £200, not sure about an 8.

No one makes phones the size of the 5 / SE anymore.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Any idea how the 7 would compare with an SE?

The other half has an SE, refurbished might be the way to go. I don't trust myself with phones so also buy a case that covers the screen and that's bulky enough with these smaller phones, never been a huge fan of the size increase in the past few years.

[Giggles]

Even going Android where you could go new in that price bracket, you'll have bother with the size. Small phones really are gone a thing of the past.

[CJay]

Any idea how the 7 would compare with an SE?



The 7 is one year more modern than the SE. You’re getting a bigger screen and a better camera, but not a huge upgrade in raw terms.

My advice is always to go for the most modern device you can afford, as that gets you the longest period of software updates.

I personally think getting an SE isn’t a good idea at this point, but if you’re wedded to the size then it’s your only option. You can probably get it for a lot less than £200 too, but make sure you don’t get a 16gb one if you do go for it. I think it was the last iPhone to sell with that storage size.

[Boydy]

Due to an upgrade in the next month or so. Currently on a Pixel 2. What's good these days? I think I currently pay about 28 quid a month. Can go a bit higher this time but wouldn't really want to go beyond 35 quid.

[Boydy]

Having done a bit of research, I think I might go for the Galaxy S10. Have you used it Giggles? What's your thoughts?

[igor_balis]

I have an s10+ it's good

[Giggles]

I’ve used the 10e and the 10+ so pretty much. They’re well worth getting. One UI is improving with every update too, I’d near rather use it that what’s on a Pixel these days. Only downside for me is the fingerprint (on the 10 and 10+, the 10e is great being on the side).

[-james-]

My S8+ is pretty much knackered so I'm looking at the S10+ too. Wouldn't mind a cheeky price drop before taking the dive though.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

The 7 is one year more modern than the SE. You’re getting a bigger screen and a better camera, but not a huge upgrade in raw terms.

My advice is always to go for the most modern device you can afford, as that gets you the longest period of software updates.

I personally think getting an SE isn’t a good idea at this point, but if you’re wedded to the size then it’s your only option. You can probably get it for a lot less than £200 too, but make sure you don’t get a 16gb one if you do go for it. I think it was the last iPhone to sell with that storage size.

Musicmagpie have plenty choice of 5SE's, anyone bought a refurbed phone from them before? Seem to have good reviews.

I keep thinking to go for something a bit newer but any newer comparisons I look at list a load of positives I couldn't give a shit about and drawbacks (battery life etc.) that would actually annoy me.

[Boydy]

What's the difference between the S10+ and the normal S10? Just the screen size?

[Giggles]

Yep. Battery too but that’s a given in a smaller phone.

[Boydy]

Just read some review of the three S10 variants that said although they have different size batteries, they all get through them at roughly the same rate due to the different screen sizes. I think the S10+ is just a bit too expensive to justify but the S10 seems like a decent deal.

It's on Three for 29 quid upfront and 35 quid a month with 100gb data. That seems to be about the best offer around.

Edit: just seen it for 34 quid a month and 20 quid upfront with 100gb of data.

[Lofty]

Just read some review of the three S10 variants that said although they have different size batteries, they all get through them at roughly the same rate due to the different screen sizes. I think the S10+ is just a bit too expensive to justify but the S10 seems like a decent deal.

It's on Three for 29 quid upfront and 35 quid a month with 100gb data. That seems to be about the best offer around.

Edit: just seen it for 34 quid a month and 20 quid upfront with 100gb of data.

I love the S10 Note+ but I got the 5G model and feel like O2's 4G is shite even in central Manchester.

[Gray Fox]

You can currently get the iPhone 11 with 5000 minutes and 100GB of data for £33 a month(36 months) on Virgin Mobile.

I believe Virgin use EEs network too so that's a pretty damn good deal.

The pro is £10 a month more for the same, but I really can't decide if it's worth the difference for the better screen and (for me) better screen size.

[Boydy]

Fuck a 3 year contract though. You'll spend the last year of it with your phone constantly on the charger.

[Giggles]

I’ll say one thing for this iPhone, whether I keep buying them or not, but I have never had to consciously plug it in for fear of running out. The 11 Pro Max must have 2 days at least easily.

[CJay]

Fuck a 3 year contract though. You'll spend the last year of it with your phone constantly on the charger.

What? Just get your battery replaced.

[Gray Fox]

I’ll say one thing for this iPhone, whether I keep buying them or not, but I have never had to consciously plug it in for fear of running out. The 11 Pro Max must have 2 days at least easily.

I've had the 11 pro for about a week now and back this up.

My Pixel, albeit near 2 years into use, was down to 20% or below after a days use. The Apple is finishing at worst on 61% so far.

Given the idle usage is also amazing on Apples, I could get through 2 days without a charge with reasonable comfort.

[SincereTheRebel]

Inter
Roma
Porto
Ajax
Olympiacos

Any would be ideal for an away day with Wolves

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Inter
Roma
Porto
Ajax
Olympiacos

Any would be ideal for an away day with Wolves

Great phones.

[Gray Fox]

Apple soon to be No-Porto.

[Clunge]

Something something headphone Ajax something.

[Shindig]

I got myself an LA Galaxy the other day.

[Gray Fox]

How does it do Huawei from home?

[Shindig]

Fine. I'm covered on the Total Network Solutions plan.

[Boydy]

Need a new phone as I'm getting sick of the shitty battery on my pixel 2 now. Shame cause otherwise I'd be happy enough with it and move to a sim only deal.

That new Samsung Galaxy S10 Lite looks interesting. So does the A71. They both have pretty big batteries which is what I'd like.

Anyone got either or know of any other decent battery life phones? I'd prefer to avoid the Chinese spyware brands.

[Giggles]

iPhone 11, P30 Pro from experience. A Samsung up to now will never have wonderful battery life. The Pixel 3A XL is strong enough too.

[Boydy]

iPhone 11, P30 Pro from experience. A Samsung up to now will never have wonderful battery life. The Pixel 3A XL is strong enough too.

The S10 Lite has a 4000 mAh battery and the A71 a 4500 mAh one.

Is the iPhone 11 battery good? I always thought iPhones were meant to be a bit shit for battery life? Not sure I'd want to spend that much though.

I'd rather avoid Huawei. I don't need Xi Jinping knowing what sort of porn I like.

[Giggles]

The S10 Lite has a 4000 mAh battery and the A71 a 4500 mAh one.

Is the iPhone 11 battery good? I always thought iPhones were meant to be a bit shit for battery life? Not sure I'd want to spend that much though.

I'd rather avoid Huawei. I don't need Xi Jinping knowing what sort of porn I like.

Sorry I was thinking of the S10e not the lite. It should be better than most to date but Samsung phones are always battery hogs especially if they have their own chips inside.
The iPhone 11 battery is excellent. Both it and the P30 Pro are the first two phones (I’ve used for a long period of time) that I never needed to care about charging overnight or worried about having around 50% on heading out.

[CJay]

Sorry I was thinking of the S10e not the lite. It should be better than most to date but Samsung phones are always battery hogs especially if they have their own chips inside.
The iPhone 11 battery is excellent. Both it and the P30 Pro are the first two phones (I’ve used for a long period of time) that I never needed to care about charging overnight or worried about having around 50% on heading out.

Can confirm. I charge my new iPhone 11 every other night. Battery life is excellent. If you don’t take pictures you could probably do 2 nights without charging.

I’m not sure but I think it’s best in class (for normal phones anyway).

[Boydy]

Alright, went for the S10 Lite in the end. 40 quid upfront, 30 quid a month with 20gb of data.

It just arrived today. What's the best way to transfer all my shit from my old phone?

[Boydy]

Oh, and £80 cashback from Samsung as well.

[Boydy]

Turns out Samsung has its own app for transferring stuff that came up when I switched it on. Installed it on the old phone and it transferred everything over wifi. Nice and easy.

[Shindig]

Here's my dumb question for the day: When I upgrade my phone, can I keep the old one as a spare?

[Giggles]

Yeah once the contract is up you own the phone. The price of it is built in to the contract.

[Shindig]

Grand. Now to figure out what I can get away with. I've been on £25 a month with unlimited data forever and I doubt I'll get anything that cheap in 2020.

[SvN]

You could've got a sim only deal for less than that. You've been overpaying for years.

[Shindig]

Doesn't solve the problem that my phone is old and app support is dwindling for it.

[Giggles]

Does your network do the Galaxy A51? They’re a good bet.

EDIT: Or wait a little while for the Pixel 4A.

[Shindig]

Aye, they do. Unlimited data is £36 a month. I think I should sack unlimited data off. Turns out I don't use that much, even when I'm abroad.

[Baz]

The battery on my iPhone 7 is pants and the lure of 6 months of Disney+ if I upgrade has mr thinking about getting a new phone. A bigger screen would be boss too cos I use my phone absolutely loads for browsing the Internet.

Previously I bought my phone outright and just pay £15 a month sim only for 10gb data.

If I was to upgrade, say to the 11 Pro Max, it’s £300 upfront and £50 a month. :sick: Cost aside, I just know I’d love it. And with the next few months looking like I’ll be getting full pay and very little expenditure (just food shopping & bills, essentially) it seems as good a time as any to spaff three hundred quid. :henn0rz:

I worry that come September when the new one is announced I’ll be like dawww I should have waited, especially if they manage to get rid of the bezel thing at the top of the screen.

I’d only have an iPhone though, for iMessage purposes.

[Giggles]

I’d say there’s a good chance the notch will go this time round.

[Baz]

​Someone made a video of what the iPhone 12 will be like if all the leaks/rumours so far are true:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mo4MBVDO5I

I'm not keen on going back to the boxy SE-like shape.

[Don]

One would suggest you don't pay money you don't have on doing so then. Scum.

[Spikey M]

That bun ain't half giving you some misplaced confidence.

[Don]

When your mental health has you lashing out uncontrollably and some hero comes and humours it with a retort. God, I'm so hard rn :drool:

[Giggles]

So many people have been calling for that design to return since the 6 came out, even still. Never liked it.

[phonics]

I've been on an 11 since Christmas going from a 6S. I had to charge the 6S up the other day to get access to an account and it feels like when you go to a primary school as an adult where all the tables and chairs are made for tiny children. So small.

[Baz]

So many people have been calling for that design to return since the 6 came out, even still. Never liked it.Same. The 3GS (https://pricespy-75b8.kxcdn.com/product/standard/800/448899.jpg) is still my favourite shaped iPhone.

[Manc]

My contract is up with EE and I've decided to switch to a sim only plan. Is there any danger in me capping my 4G speed to 60Mbps?

[Raoul Duke]

Danger?

You'll just get slower speed, not mauled by a panther

[Giggles]

Portrait mode on the 11 is really bad, the pixel 2 was better. Does the telephoto on the pro make up for it?

[Giggles]

This is fucking sorely needed these days.

https://time.com/5830162/iphone-mask-face-id

[Shindig]

They already have my fingerprint.

[Spikey M]

Is anyone else's mobile data unusable at the moment?

[Shindig]

Okay, I already hate this phone. I need to sort two things out.

1) Constant Apple ID sign-ins when I switch to wifi.
2) iMessage doesn't want to activate.

Youtube's not really helping.

[Baz]

What’s the cheapest way to get a SIM card to put into an old phone that can then receive text messages? Preferably receive phone calls too.

it will never need to send text messages, or make phone calls.

[Luca]

That’s the kind of question that could easily get you on a watchlist.

[Giggles]

O2 used to give them away all the time but I don’t know of any that won’t cut you off unless there’s a top up within a certain timeframe.

[Don]

My 4 year-old Samsung was really showing its age but the water damage from yday's meltdown walk has killed it off.

I ain't going apple and I don't want to be carrying a second 12 inch monstrosity. My current ting is 134.5mm/5.3 in (woi oi) tall. I don't think they do them this small any more but I need it similar size.

Reviews say point me to Galaxy s10e and Pixel 3a for small androids.

Any recommendations?

[John Arne]

I have a OnePlus 6t and it has been fantastic. Apparently the 7t is even better.

[John Arne]

Only downside to the 6t is no wireless charging. Buuuut, the cable charging is MEGA fast.

[Giggles]

3a or wait a couple of weeks for the 4a.

[Don]

That Oneplus is a little big and I can't wait for 4a.

Cheapest stocked 3a seems to be £300. Smarty (who?) are giving 30GB for £10 per month no contract or I could just stick to trusted BT and pay £26 per month for 24 months phone and SIM. Any objections please speak now or forever hold your peace.

Edit: BT giving 15GB SIM only for £12 per month on 12 month contract and £300 phone seems the best of both worlds.

Edit2: Smarty is apparently using EE network too. Should I risk them?

[Giggles]

The S10e is worth a look because you already have a Samsung and would be realtively used to the interface (though a 4 year old one won't have gotten the OneUI 2.0 updates). I'd still go for the 3a over it though. Far smoother to use and superior camera.

[Don]

Spunked my load on a 3a at £270 before realising it takes a week to arrive. Will keep current SIM and switch over to SMARTY when it comes. Having seen the 4a is 7mm shorter, I may become one of those consumerist wankers and trade this in for it in (release put back to October it seems), especially if it arrives and it's annoyingly big. Anyways, cheers Giggs.

[Giggles]

Spunked my load on a 3a at £270 before realising it takes a week to arrive. Will keep current SIM and switch over to SMARTY when it comes. Having seen the 4a is 7mm shorter, I may become one of those consumerist wankers and trade this in for it in (release put back to October it seems), especially if it arrives and it's annoyingly big. Anyways, cheers Giggs.

The 3a should be almost the very same size as the 4a will be. The 3aXL is 7mm taller though, which one did you order?

Hopefully you've just looked up the size specs for the 3aXL but ordered the 3a (there will be no XL in the 4a).

EDIT: Ignore me, I was looking at the widths.

[Giggles]

Pixel 3a
151.3 × 70.1 × 8.2 mm
147 grams
5.6-inch OLED

Pixel 3aXL
160.1 x 76.1 x 8.2 mm
167 grams
6.0-inch OLED

Pixel 4a
144.2 x 69.5 x 8.2 mm
??? grams
5.81-inch OLED

[Don]

Just got my old S3 out to compare too.

Current: 134.5 x 65.2 x 7.3
S3 : 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6

Deffo won't have issues with the width and girth but an extra 15mm on the S3 is makin me apprehensive. Chuck on another 5mm for its condom case.

[Don]

My phone's dried off and fixed up fully. They don't make 'em like they used to :cool: Might return the 3a depending on how cumbersome I find it.

[Giggles]

An app drawer, a home screen (with widgets), and a non-dogshit voice assistant. It’ll be just like having a pixel again.

[Raoul Duke]

ARM Macs sounds interesting. Could be absolutely beastly (although undoubtedly the graphics capabilities will still be shit)

[Giggles]

It’s a strange way to go when most Mac users like to say “productivity” a lot and only ever use photoshop and lightroom.

[Giggles]

iOS 14 is exceptionally stable for a first beta release.

[Mike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLyDvABxGF0

[Raoul Duke]

Searchable emojis :drool:

[Don]

Searchable emojis :drool:

I saw some shit about Apple users getting hyped about Android features but I didn't think it was this bad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My phone is dead, although it turns out an upgrade is available so I'm just going to do that rather than faffing about. As a Samsung loyalist, is there any reason I shouldn't go for the S20?

[Giggles]

Not a thing wrong with the S20. No glaring misses like some of the competition.

[Giggles]

Did you get into your Samsung account?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yeah, I have a certain amount backed up and a certain amount not. Went down the Samsung shop in Kingston (you can only imagine how many masks and screens have been erected in there) and the guy said it was a motherboard blown. He did a factory reset and initially it worked, so I went home with it, but soon died again. I can't be fucked getting it fixed when there's an upgrade due and the S20 will work out cheaper anyway.

[Don]

3a finally arrived after delays. Not too bad size wise but still big enough to pose an inferior choice to my current perfectly sized antique.

In terms of returning it, a courier is meant to come collect it today. I hand the fucker the phone, what exactly prevents him from i) saying he didn't collect it or, ii) taking the phone out the box and returning the empty box? Am I just not showing enough faith in my fellow man or something?

[Clunge]

If the iPhone 12 is 5.4-inch (https://www.macrumors.com/2020/07/05/5-4-inch-iphone12-vs-se-7/), I will happily blow a hole in my wallet for it.

[Giggles]

If they do go back to that brick design like the 4 and 5 then my iPhone experience will end with the 11.

[Baz]

If the iPhone 12 is 5.4-inch (https://www.macrumors.com/2020/07/05/5-4-inch-iphone12-vs-se-7/), I will happily blow a hole in my wallet for it.
Bigger is better now. And mine too, Giggles. The 3GS or whatever it was was so much better than the 4.

[Giggles]

Anyone know if there’s any possible way to divert a single contact on an iPhone? Or, failing that, on Android?

[igor_balis]

Is it baz with a homer Simpson style autodialler?

Ey la it's happy guy, sign up to my referral link to some shite, it's well boss.

[Lofty]

Not sure sorry. Does anyone know if there is a foolproof way to put a screen protector on? The factory fitted one on my Galaxy Note 10+ is pretty dinged up now but in my experience fitting them my self leaves a naff finish.

[Mike]

I got this one for my iPhone
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07GX33WVR
And it comes with this plastic thing for putting it on and it’s perfect. I was super impressed. I’m sure they’ll do them for other phones.

[Giggles]

Definitely get a glass one anyway.

[Baz]

Is it baz with a homer Simpson style autodialler?

Ey la it's happy guy, sign up to my referral link to some shite, it's well boss.eh?

[Pepe]

Got a Motorola Power (I think that's what it is called) recently. It is way too big, like all phones are, but I didn't have to charge it in a week. :drool:

[Don]

Got one of those for my mum a while back I think and it's a tasty bit of kit.

I got caught in another rainstorm again today and it's led to the power button not working now. Hoping it dries off but the home button never recovered last time and like a tard I turned it off to dry off without thinking about how I'd restart it so this may be the long goodbye as I can start up the boot menu using just the volume buttons but no further progress is possible. Fuck sake, just needed another few months till that new Pixel was out.

[Mike]

If you connect it to the power it should turn on right?

[Don]

If you connect it to the power it should turn on right?

Negative, it needs the power button to instigate it otherwise it'd just show the charging screen. But now I've currently got it on the boot menu and unable to do anything bar hard reset with the volume button to return back to this menu so can't even turn power off now. Even if I let charge run and it turns off, I'd still need the power button else it's back to this cycle.

[Don]

What's the mechanics behind me using my SIM in my mum's phone to access whatsapp? Will all my dickpics be stored on my mum's phone when I swap back? Will I see all her nudes? Or is it a fairly straightforward ting?

Edit: tried it, needed account logging out and logging in again so bottled it.

[Giggles]

4A launch is today apparently.

[John Arne]

Anyone noticed a brightness decrease since the android update a few days ago?

[phonics]

My battery life has gone to shit and the iPhone 12 is getting announced next month.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,

[Baz]

Same.

[Giggles]

Mine is still excellent, but I’m still going to get a 12.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Anyone noticed a brightness decrease since the android update a few days ago?

Yep, although it seems to vary a lot seemingly at random.

[Don]

Phone died for the third and final time last night so rushed to shops today to pickup whatever small android model some cunt pointed me towards. Say hello to the Samsung A20e for a bargain £150. It's an inch longer than my beloved A3 but my cervix can take it. Haven't busted since 1st August due to my hand wounds healing and I've pencilled in a baby oil sesh tomorrow evening for xvids on this new INFINITY V display. It's gonna be like Beirut in my bedroom.

[Don]

Bought some micro-USB charging cables for my old phone from Lidl that were top-notch for next to nothing. Unfortunately, the new one is USB-C so went and got the most popular one on amazon (why is shopping on this website still so difficult as in no way of filtering by popularity and skimming the best of the results?).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gritin-Cable-3-Pack-1-5M-Charging-Light-Grey/dp/B07CJJHVKX/

Turns out they don't 'fast charge' like the 5cm cable provided by Samsung on my phone. 14,511 positive reviews and mentions of fast charging being fine leave me thinking I've missed a key step in the complex process of using the cables. Any ideas?

Edit: It's the adapter that needs to be fast charge compatible too, you stupid cunts.

[Baz]

Mine is still excellent, but I’m still going to get a 12.

Erm.

Battery capacity
Apple sometimes comes in for mockery when it refers to its latest device as the "best iPhone yet" - what else would you expect, people point out. Technology gets better each year, and if you didn't offer better specs than the previous model nobody would upgrade.

In one respect, however, it appears the iPhone 12 may be a little behind its predecessor. Screenshots from various databases suggest the new models will have smaller batteries (https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/iphone/iphone-12-series-could-have-smaller-batteries-3792721/).

https://www.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3778073/iphone_12_battery_size_thumb.jpg

If the figures are correct, the iPhone 12 Max has a battery capacity of 2775mAh, 335mAh lower than the iPhone 11. The 12 Pro is also 2775mAh, 271mAh less than the iPhone 11 Pro. And the 12 Pro Max looks to be 3687mAh, 282mAh less than the iPhone 11 Pro Max.

That sounds very odd indeed, not just because of the aforementioned expectation for tech to advance every year but also because 5G and OLED screens throughout the range (both expected this year) will mean greater power drain on the new handsets. More power drain, less battery capacity, bad news for battery life.

Well, not necessarily. As the Macalope points out (https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=803X112722&xcust=41-3778073-11-0000000&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fiph one%2Fiphone-12-release-date-3778073%2F&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.com%2Farticle%2F356 6121%2Fpowering-down-iphone-12-battery-rumors.html), "we know nothing about what other changes Apple may have made in hardware or software the might affect power consumption". For example, it's been suggested by TSMC (https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=803X112722&xcust=41-3778073-11-0000000&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fiph one%2Fiphone-12-release-date-3778073%2F&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.anandtech.com%2Fshow%2F16024 %2Ftsmc-details-3nm-process-technology-details-full-node-scaling-for-2h22) that the 5nm manufacturing process means the iPhone 12's A14 chip could offer up to 30% lower energy consumption than the A13 (although much of these gains may be wiped out if Apple chooses instead to focus on performance).

For sure, if the iPhone 12 has half the battery life of the 11, we'll discover that in testing and give it a brutal review. But Apple is aware that people take battery life seriously and we'd be very surprised if it hasn't got a plan.
(source) (https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/iphone/iphone-12-release-date-3778073/)

All signs point to a shorter battery life between charges. Why would that even be a thing?

[Mike]

Smaller phone size? Better camera taking up more room?

[Giggles]

Hopefully it's something to do with the efficiency of the new internals and they have it well tested to perform the same on a smaller cell size. Cutting actual battery life for some other new hardware would be a huge mistake.

[Giggles]

Starting to look more and more like this tiny iPhone 12 will be the only non Pro model in the lineup. They can get fucked with that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can upgrade next month, what are the best Android options?

Currently have a Huawei P20 Pro which I like but with all the shit around Huawei I want to bin it.

[Giggles]

Your P20 Pro will not lose Google services so I wouldn't worry. That was only for future phones.

Your options for top of the line these days only amount to a Samsung or Oneplus. Huawei, LG, HTC, and Google are all out of that level.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was thinking OnePlus. I had a 5T or a 6T a few years ago which I loved.

[Giggles]

That's most likely my next choice too if apple do what I mentioned above.

[Kikó]

1303989470677610497?s=20

Pretty amazing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

OnePlus are exclusive to Three it seems (I get a discount on EE) so I guess I'm going for a Samsung next month.

[Offshore Toon]

Any recommendations for mid-range phones?

[Giggles]

The 4A, but what's important?

[Offshore Toon]

Nothing, really. I don't ask for much from my phones. I might go sub £200 range.

[Giggles]

Probably pick up a Samsung A41 for that.

[Offshore Toon]

I'll take a look. Cheers.

[Don]

My Samsung A20E is doing a sterling job and will continue to be doing so for the next 5 years. £150. No idea if it's the best money can buy though.

[Yevrah]

ios 14, or whatever the fuck it's called has ruined my battery.

[Waffdon]

My phone is due an upgrade every September to coincide with the new iPhone but I see it’s not been released yet. Has Covid delayed it?

[Baz]

Yeah. Some announcement due [the week commencing] October 12th, released [wc] October 19th and then the Pro versions released sometime in November.

EDIT:

1293682812411936768

[Gray Fox]

ios 14, or whatever the fuck it's called has ruined my battery.

I was about to come in here and say this. What did they do?

[Shindig]

Do they not reset your settings when you update? Bluetooth and Wifi on by default and such?

[Yevrah]

I was about to come in here and say this. What did they do?

I've no idea, but I've had it plugged in for 10 hours now and it's gone from 15% to still not 100%. A quick Google earlier says it's normal after an update (I've never seen it this bad) and should sort itself out within a week.

I'm not convinced. Getting 8 WhatsApp messages in quick succession drained 2% of the fucker, while plugged in.

[Yevrah]

Do they not reset your settings when you update? Bluetooth and Wifi on by default and such?

Just checked and my Bluetooth was on. Cheers.

[Giggles]

What Bluetooth will use is negligible. Most likely it's an app.

[Raoul Duke]

go to the battery settings and it'll give you a breakdown of power consumption by app. Mine's been fine, FWIW

[Giggles]

Mine has been spot on too, even from the first beta release I've had no issues.

[Mike]

Same here, all good.
Got the Apple Watch SE and loving it! That’s me locked into iPhones even further. Want eat pod pros next! But they’re silly money.

[Giggles]

I really want to get a watch but the same as that I'm really in then and I don't want to chance it just yet.

[CJay]

The Apple Watch (I have a Series 3) is the best device I’ve ever owned. I’d sooner give up my iPhone 11 and go back to the oldest supported phone than give up my watch.

I was 5 months post ACL reconstruction when I got mine and I’ve lost 12kg and boosted my predicted V02 max from 39 to 53 in the 2.5 years I’ve had it (with ups and downs in between).

If you’re not interested in fitness tracking I can’t speak for how much you’ll like it, but for notifications and messages etc. it is also excellent.

[CJay]

Also, zero battery problems on iOS 14 for me.

[Giggles]

The Apple Watch (I have a Series 3) is the best device I’ve ever owned. I’d sooner give up my iPhone 11 and go back to the oldest supported phone than give up my watch.

I was 5 months post ACL reconstruction when I got mine and I’ve lost 12kg and boosted my predicted V02 max from 39 to 53 in the 2.5 years I’ve had it (with ups and downs in between).

If you’re not interested in fitness tracking I can’t speak for how much you’ll like it, but for notifications and messages etc. it is also excellent.

It wouldn't be for fitness for me (apparently Garmin, etc are way better if you're mad for fitness stuff anyway. I dunno) but they're apparently way superior functionally to what I've been used to with Wear OS watches or Samsung Tizen ones. I'd love to try one but like I said above, that would be it for being fulling tied into apple and I'm kind of eyeing the Pixel 5 now. If I go iphone 12 I'm definitely going for one though.

[Giggles]

I see eglobal central have the series 5 for under 400 euro which would probably be a better way to go if I were getting one.

What has the 6 over the 5?