Mobile Phone Thread

[Spammer]

5.1

[Giggles]

5.1

Ah right. You can't do the SD as HD adoptable storage thing until 6.0. Have a look in the Play Store for 'Apps to SD' apps. Some will allow you to move apps to the card that you wouldn't previously. Also, have you cleared out all the cached storage? If it's been ages you could easily get 500MB to a gig there.

[phonics]

Just me or does iOS 10 look like absolute garbage designed by a child?

Who thought this:
http://cdn.iphonehacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ios-9-low-power-mode-3.jpg

Should be replaced with this?
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2016/06/iOS_10_collapsed_notification_concept.jpg

It even feels like they've reduced the resolution or something as all the icons feel fucking HUGE now. I won't even get into functionality (how do you mange to make unlocking your phone annoying?), what a terrible update.

[Giggles]

It's worth bearing with. Definitely more useful once you get used to the cosmetics.

[Spikey M]

I bet Austin is a right cunt.

[Giggles]

Yeah actually, Snapchat? Christ.

I didn't realise you were 15.

[phonics]

Those are just Google Images.

[Spikey M]

Austin is still a cunt.

[Giggles]

Those are just Google Images.

The Asian should have made me cop that in fairness.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Asian should have made me cop that in fairness.

Phonics is in with the Taiwanese mafia.

[Kikó]

Meanwhile my repaired oneplusx has returned. Thank the stars,I was sick of the Samsung s4 mini.

[igor_balis]

moto g4 best value smartphone aye?

[Giggles]

moto g4 best value smartphone aye?

How much are you getting it for?

(But most likely, yes).

[Raoul Duke]

The iOS lock screen, home button, quick menu (at the bottom) and notifications are fucking bollocks.

There is some cool functionality, but it's pretty meh overall.

[Magic]

moto g4 best value smartphone aye?

Don't get the Play version, for fuck's sake. The + seems like the one to get.

[Giggles]

Google Pixels due for launch tomorrow. Impressive specs and finally a small version that matches the larger one, but they are seriously meh looking.

http://www.androidauthority.com/full-google-pixel-pixel-xl-specifications-leaked-retailer-719456/

[Adamski]

The camera on this iPhone 7 Plus :drool:

[Giggles]

Google Pixel 32GB €760
Google Pixel 128GB €870
Google Pixel XL 32GB €900
Google Pixel XL 128GB €1010

Sweet baby Jesus. They're dead in the water before they even launch.

[Raoul Duke]

They look like shit iPhone clones as well.

The Google Home thing might be interesting though.

[Giggles]

They look like shit iPhone clones as well.

The Google Home thing might be interesting though.

I'd prefer the look of the Pixel over the iPhone but they definitely have went towards that generic meh massive top/chin look like Apple do. But like always it just depends on which OS you want so there's little point in comparing them.

None of us will see Google Home until the middle of next year at least. It's US only for now.

[Spikey M]

Is it not just another Android phone? So it has good hardware, nobody really gives a fuck. The only way this sells is if they manage to make the brand popular and right now Apple and Samsung have an Oasis vs Blur thing going.

[Giggles]

Is it not just another Android phone? So it has good hardware, nobody really gives a fuck. The only way this sells is if they manage to make the brand popular and right now Apple and Samsung have an Oasis vs Blur thing going.

Hopefully they can do better than Oasis or Blur in not having their phones go on fire at least.

But yeah, it's never going to take off like those two. Not at those prices and not with only one mobile network per country selling them on contract. I really think they've went down the wrong path with these.

[John Arne]

Er, think I've just discovered an iPhone IOS 10 bug. My phone just allowed me to send an SMS without unlocking the phone, by just asking Siri to do it for me.
Anyone else?

[Giggles]

Er, think I've just discovered an iPhone IOS 10 bug. My phone just allowed me to send an SMS without unlocking the phone, by just asking Siri to do it for me.
Anyone else?

I haven't had much time with iOS10 but were they adding unlocks like the Android 'trusted' ones this time round? Maybe it's only done it because it's your voice that asked.

[Adamski]

Yeah no idea how that can be classed as a bug.

[John Arne]

Yeah no idea how that can be classed as a bug.

The point is there is no voice recognition on iPhone. I've just had my missus do the same on my phone.

[Giggles]

Ah right. That's not good then.

[John Arne]

Yeah, it's a bit strange - I would have thought others have noticed. I am using the 5S, however, not sure whether it's the same for the newer models.

[Giggles]

Yeah, it's a bit strange - I would have thought others have noticed. I am using the 5S, however, not sure whether it's the same for the newer models.

I've a 6S in my desk in work, I'll update it and try tomorrow if I get in early.

[Raoul Duke]

Here's a post from four years ago explaining how to turn this off: http://www.cultofmac.com/200675/keep-other-people-from-using-siri-in-your-iphones-lock-screen-ios-tips Took about 12 seconds to Google and copy/paste.

I guess if you're driving and/or have some kind of disability issue then this could be useful.

[Giggles]

Good, because I just remembered my 6S is network locked to 3 so I couldn't send a message anyway.

Voice assistants are indeed a godsend when driving.

[John Arne]

Here's a post from four years ago explaining how to turn this off: http://www.cultofmac.com/200675/keep-other-people-from-using-siri-in-your-iphones-lock-screen-ios-tips Took about 12 seconds to Google and copy/paste.

I guess if you're driving and/or have some kind of disability issue then this could be useful.

At least you weren't an arse about it.

[Giggles]

Nobody here had purchased a Note 7 had they? Samsung have finally put a bullet in it.


http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-permanently-cancels-galaxy-note-7

[phonics]

I've been too poor and too unwilling to give up my iPhone 6. Put it into repair today having smashed it in January 2015 :cool: It only takes them a couple of hours apparently which makes me wonder whether I should have just done it myself 12 months ago.

[Giggles]

Most of them are a doddle to pop a screen in if you have any motor skills at all.

[igor_balis]

went for a clearance vodafone smart ultra 6, £89.99 :drool:

[Boydy]

My contract's up at the end of next month. What's good these days?

Also, is it worth waiting until January? Would prices come down then or phone contracts not really work like that?

[igor_balis]

phone contracts are a ridiculous rip-off. just get a sim-only contract. most of my mates on 24-month contracts are gonna end up paying 200-300 quid more than if they'd paid for their phone outright then got a comparable sim-only deal.

[Boydy]

Yeah, I know. In the past I generally couldn't afford to pay out a lump sum in one go for the phone so was happy to get a contract that included the handset. I could buy a phone outright now and get a sim only and I know it'd work out cheaper in the long run but I'd feel bad paying that much money in one go for a shiny new toy, whereas paying monthly it doesn't really feel like as much.

Are there any good phones that are reasonably priced to buy outright? I was looking at One Plus Three a while ago. It looks alright. I'm not spending stupid money on an iPhone or anything.

[Giggles]

My contract's up at the end of next month. What's good these days?

Also, is it worth waiting until January? Would prices come down then or phone contracts not really work like that?

They won't come down massively and try avoid getting one on contract anyway.
What's the budget and what do you mainly use it for (gaming, etc)?

[igor_balis]

£150ish for the Moto G4 which is meant to be really good, or £90 for the smart ultra 6 which i got. I don't object to people paying big money for high-end smartphones if they actually use the increased power and stuff, but I've still not heard a compelling argument for having a high-end phone for most users. When I've challenged (not in an annoying way, honestly) my mates about why they got a £500 phone they always start babbling about how "easy it is to use" or how the screen looks nice or some shit.

It is like the computer industry being built on YOUR MUM paying £500 for a laptop in curry's that the man in the shop recommended to her to go on foxy bingo and skype the cousins in australia which she could have done on a £200 laptop. And she could have at least got the one she did buy for about £50 cheaper online.

[Boydy]

They won't come down massively and try avoid getting one on contract anyway.
What's the budget and what do you mainly use it for (gaming, etc)?

Why avoid contract?

Looking at sim-only deals, are they really cheap enough (with a decent data allowance) to save enough money to pay for the handset outright?

Ones I see seem to be around £15 a month or so. So say that's a saving of £13 a month (I'm not looking at going over the £28 a month I spend now on my contract) - that totals £312 over the 25 month period the contract would be for. That's not going to buy you a brilliant handset, is it?

https://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/shopping-basket?source=theme&utm_source=Direct&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=SpringSale2016

The LG G5 is available there on Three (who I'm currently with) for less than I pay now.

[Boydy]

£150ish for the Moto G4 which is meant to be really good, or £90 for the smart ultra 6 which i got. I don't object to people paying big money for high-end smartphones if they actually use the increased power and stuff, but I've still not heard a compelling argument for having a high-end phone for most users. When I've challenged (not in an annoying way, honestly) my mates about why they got a £500 phone they always start babbling about how "easy it is to use" or how the screen looks nice or some shit.

It is like the computer industry being built on YOUR MUM paying £500 for a laptop in curry's that the man in the shop recommended to her to go on foxy bingo and skype the cousins in australia which she could have done on a £200 laptop. And she could have at least got the one she did buy for about £50 cheaper online.

Alright, Marcuse. Calm down.

[Giggles]

Why avoid contract?

Looking at sim-only deals, are they really cheap enough (with a decent data allowance) to save enough money to pay for the handset outright?

Ones I see seem to be around £15 a month or so. So say that's a saving of £13 a month (I'm not looking at going over the £28 a month I spend now on my contract) - that totals £312 over the 25 month period the contract would be for. That's not going to buy you a brilliant handset, is it?

https://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/shopping-basket?source=theme&utm_source=Direct&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=SpringSale2016

The LG G5 is available there on Three (who I'm currently with) for less than I pay now.

The LG G5 is a steaming turd though.

[Boydy]

Is it? What's wrong with it?

The previous iterations of the G series were good, weren't they?

[Giggles]

Is it? What's wrong with it?

The previous iterations of the G series were good, weren't they?

They were very good, but the software needed some getting used to. They always felt pretty cheap but well put together at the same time, but the G5 doesn't even manage the latter. Gaps in different sections (where the bottom comes off) and the layer of the plastic coating on the metal is badly finished. Battery life is horrendous (though it comes out) and it also can be prone to the main board completely dying like the G4 did also.
Camera on it is class but there's other phones with very good cameras out there that are far better whole packages.

What's the main thing you want? Screen size? Battery life? Camera? Certain software?

EDIT: the add on modules are also pretty rubbish on the G5 and they're scrapping them for the G6 so there won't be any new ones.

[Boydy]

What's the main thing you want? Screen size? Battery life? Camera? Certain software?


I suppose I mostly use it for browsing the internet, listening to podcasts and playing some games. Hardly ever use the camera.

Now I've actually thought about and listed what I use it for, I'm not sure I even need a new one. Although this one is getting a little slow and the battery life is getting worse.

[Giggles]

If it were me I'd try pick up a Moto Z Play. It'll do anything you want really well but beats almost every single other phone in battery life. Now here I can only buy unlocked, so I'm not sure if your networks do it either which would be a problem.

[Giggles]

That said, you'd be starting from scratch with a new phone so a factory reset of your current one would be a good option too. Would do it the world of good if you haven't done it in a long while. What is it?

[Boydy]

Galaxy S5. Does a factory reset help battery life?

I've always wanted to have a go at custom roms but never got round to it. Might try that.

[Giggles]

Galaxy S5. Does a factory reset help battery life?

I've always wanted to have a go at custom roms but never got round to it. Might try that.

Yeah it'll definitely help. Just back up to Google or Samsung in the Backup & Reset menu and you won't lose WiFi passwords, etc.

First off though try a cache partition wipe. It's like a mini reset without resetting anything on the phone but can clear glitches built up over time.

https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-clear-galaxy-s5-cache

Worth doing and giving a couple of days before doing a full reset.

[Gray Fox]

I had the G5 for a week and then took it back for an S7 Edge.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

S8 Edge should come out in March, right? I think I'll grab that.

[Gray Fox]

Check it doesn't explode first.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think that might sell it more to me.

I can bomb the infidels.

[Giggles]

It's probably the one phone you can guarantee won't explode.

[Boydy]

What about iphones? The 7's too expensive but what about the 6? Or that new SE? I'd quite like to try one to see if they're as good as people make out.

[Magic]

Galaxy S5. Does a factory reset help battery life?

I've always wanted to have a go at custom roms but never got round to it. Might try that.

I did it with the S3. Got another year out of it but the moaning wasn't worth it. Just get a newer phone, chances are the specs on the lower to mid range phones now are better than the S5.

[Boydy]

I did it with the S3. Got another year out of it but the moaning wasn't worth it. Just get a newer phone, chances are the specs on the lower to mid range phones now are better than the S5.
That's something I was wondering about - would a mid-range phone now be much better than this one? Is there any where you can compare them to see? I suppose I could just look up specs but that sounds like too much work.

[Giggles]

You can use something like this http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6033&idPhone2=7995

Most Android mid rangers now will have as good or better chip than the S5, with a better graphics chip, more RAM, and a bigger battery, and Marshmallow upwards is significantly better than Lollipop (presumably the S5 still runs that) in performance and power usage. But for what you need it could be worth getting another year from the S5 with a reset.

The iPhone is also worth a look if you can get an SE or 6 upwards at a decent price. Again, from what you've said you want then iOS will be perfectly fine.

[Magic]

That's something I was wondering about - would a mid-range phone now be much better than this one? Is there any where you can compare them to see? I suppose I could just look up specs but that sounds like too much work.

Yeah GSM arena. Here's the G4+ vs the S5

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Motorola-Moto-G4-Plus,Samsung-Galaxy-S5/phones/10053,8202

EDIT: Beaten

[CJay]

I got a new 6s for £499. Never been on a contract but I think I prefer owning something outright. I could sell this in a year for a slightly smaller price and upgrade myself.

SE is very good value, in my opinion. My wife got one recently on contract with EE for like £21 a month. It's basically a big phone in a small body. Not having 3D Touch is the biggest downside in comparison to the 6S / 7, although others might not agree.

Can't speak for coming to iOS from Android - is it a difficult process?

[Boydy]

You can use something like this http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6033&idPhone2=7995

Most Android mid rangers now will have as good or better chip than the S5, with a better graphics chip, more RAM, and a bigger battery, and Marshmallow upwards is significantly better than Lollipop (presumably the S5 still runs that) in performance and power usage. But for what you need it could be worth getting another year from the S5 with a reset.

The iPhone is also worth a look if you can get an SE or 6 upwards at a decent price. Again, from what you've said you want then iOS will be perfectly fine.
My S5 is running Marshmallow.

Is the SE any good? I saw something saying that the insides of it were a bit dated now. The wider availability of apps and shit would be nice on iOS though.



Yeah GSM arena. Here's the G4+ vs the S5

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Motorola-Moto-G4-Plus,Samsung-Galaxy-S5/phones/10053,8202

EDIT: Beaten

Ah, useful. Cheers.

[Giggles]

Magic, I'd be wary of anything with a SD617 in it as it's a bit of an off-day for Qualcomm (like the 810 was in the upper scale). The newer 625 is a big upgrade on it for power usage and performance.


CJay Moving from one to the other these days is much easier than it ever was. Apple actually have a 'Move to iOS' app in the Play Store for making it painless.

[Magic]

It was just an example, mate.

[Giggles]

My S5 is running Marshmallow.

Is the SE any good? I saw something saying that the insides of it were a bit dated now. The wider availability of apps and shit would be nice on iOS though.




Ah, useful. Cheers.

The more apps thing on iOS is a bit 2011 in that there's very little you'll actually use that isn't on the other platform, or at the very least an equally good equivalent. I'd still look at iPhones though as most likely anyone you know will have one so it gives you the advantage of iMessage. The SE stands up well against a 6 though I'd still get the latter of the two as 4" is ridiculously small a screen size, especially when iPhone screen to body ratios are so bad across all the devices.


EDIT: also, did the S5 recently update to Marshmallow? Most definitely reset it then.

[Boydy]

Yeah, just looked at some reviews and the SE looks far too small. Some of my friends have the 5C or 5S. I don't know how they put up with such small phones.

[Giggles]

Speaking of using 625's over 617's, this Moto M should be a serious mid-ranger if it comes out around the £300/€400 mark. Especially if it can outlast the the Z Play for battery, I was easily getting 2 days from that.

SD625, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, 5.5 inch screen, 5100mAh battery and the G4 Plus camera.

[Boydy]

Yeah it'll definitely help. Just back up to Google or Samsung in the Backup & Reset menu and you won't lose WiFi passwords, etc.

First off though try a cache partition wipe. It's like a mini reset without resetting anything on the phone but can clear glitches built up over time.

https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-clear-galaxy-s5-cache

Worth doing and giving a couple of days before doing a full reset.

I did the cache partition wipe earlier today. It does seem a bit more slick and responsive now. Cheers.

[Giggles]

I did the cache partition wipe earlier today. It does seem a bit more slick and responsive now. Cheers.

Another handy trick on any android phone to make it a tiny bit more nippy all round is to go into Developer Options and scroll down to the Drawing section. Change the 3 animation scale settings to 0.5x. Speeds up all the transition animations.

(If you haven't developer options enabled go to Settings > About Phone > Software, and keep tapping the build number until it tells you it's enabled. It'll show right over the About Phone option in the settings menu.)

[Boydy]

I enabled developer settings a while back for something that I can't even remember now.

What are the animation scale settings anyway?

[Giggles]

I enabled developer settings a while back for something that I can't even remember now.

What are the animation scale settings anyway?

Probably for USB connecting.

They're just the length of the transition of things like opening an app, pulling up.a menu, etc. Shorter the scale the quicker it happens. I nearly always set them to the lowest on all my devices but they're handy for messing about testing stuff.

[Samadini]

My LG G3 has finally packed it in. Looking to buy a cheap replacement. I can get a Moto G 3rd gen (16gb) for £150. Anything better in that price range atm? Dont want to spend more

[Magic]

Erm yeah the Moto G4+ for a start...:serious:

[Samadini]

Yeah thats the one I meant. Anything else worth looking at at that price?

[Magic]

Not really. Think for anything better you're looking at £200+. Giggs?

[Giggles]

The Huawei P8 Lite is decent at that money too but personally I'd go for the Moto too.

EDIT: The Honor 5X is probably hard to get at £150 but it'd be worth a search. Wouldn't be much more anyway.

[Samadini]

Cheers chaps, just after something cheap for now and fogured that would be my best shot at the price, sounds like it is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My phone has been pissing battery life down the drain in the last month or so.

It was a real fucking trooper before lasting for a day or two depending on usage. Now I've had to turn off the GPS and even if the display is off it can barely do 10 hours before conking out. Should I actually want to use it that number reduces dranatically.

It was fully charged when I left my car at 8:30 this morning (had it on charge), I played a game for about 10 minutes on the bus to Uni and another 20 minutes or so during my lunch break. I've had to break my charger out just now at 60% or so.

40% loss with 20 minutes usage in 7 hours, ugh.

[Giggles]

Do you still have the LG Mahow?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do you still have the LG Mahow?
Sony Xperia Z5 Compact.

[Giggles]

Sony Xperia Z5 Compact.

Ah right, forgot that. Constant GPS polling is an LG speciality.

What does your battery usage page say? Any obvious apps near top of the list or just the regular Android System or Play Services?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A piece of shit app that I forgot I had had used up 16% which has now been deleted.

Nothing else really stands out.

[Magic]

livecamgirls app? Real battery killer.

[Foe]

Ordered the exact same phone again on another 2 year contract.

The 5s really is a great size/shape/weight.

[Giggles]

A piece of shit app that I forgot I had had used up 16% which has now been deleted.

Nothing else really stands out.

Something using 16% now deleted should make a good difference.

[CJay]

Ordered the exact same phone again on another 2 year contract.

The 5s really is a great size/shape/weight.

Why did you not go for the SE? There wasn't much price difference between the two.

Having a 4in and 4.7in phone in our home, it's actually hard for me to say which I prefer. The bigger screen of the 6s is amazing and it's not difficult to hold, but the SE fits so perfectly in your hand, which is definitely an overlooked feature nowadays. It'll be interesting to see whether these near bezel-less displays being touted (and made real in Xiaomi's case) ever hit the small form phones.

[Giggles]

Hopefully not. While they'll look nice, they'd be near impossible to use.

[Foe]

Why did you not go for the SE? There wasn't much price difference between the two.

Having a 4in and 4.7in phone in our home, it's actually hard for me to say which I prefer. The bigger screen of the 6s is amazing and it's not difficult to hold, but the SE fits so perfectly in your hand, which is definitely an overlooked feature nowadays. It'll be interesting to see whether these near bezel-less displays being touted (and made real in Xiaomi's case) ever hit the small form phones.

No idea what the SE is. I ended up getting the 5s for about £26/month with 6GB of data so it's actually going to be cheaper for me going forward, despite getting more. I don't really use the function of the phone to any real great capacity anyway, but having an exact replica spare is appealing.

[Magic]

For me 5.2" is the absolute perfect sized screen. I thought my HTC One M7 was, but the extra .4" really makes the difference. Also I'm a big fan of screen to the edges. Keeps it compact with minimal waste.

[Baz]

No idea what the SE is. I ended up getting the 5s for about £26/month with 6GB of data so it's actually going to be cheaper for me going forward, despite getting more. I don't really use the function of the phone to any real great capacity anyway, but having an exact replica spare is appealing.The SE looks identical to the 5/5S but with specs more like the 6/6S. If you're happy with the 5S, I'd have done the same as you. :thbup: No point paying more for something you don't get any benefit from.

[Baz]

809749768247316480

Jailbreak imminent so those of you who want to use it, go back to 10.1.1 (http://www.ibtimes.sg/how-downgrade-ios-10-2-ios-10-1-1-iphone-ipad-ipod-touch-5617) while you can.

[Adam]

Has anyone got the google pixel XL? Looking to make a change from iPhone and it seems to have decent reviews online.

[Giggles]

I had one for a month. It's very nice but not worth the cost.

[Baz]

JB: http://www.iclarified.com/58414/how-to-jailbreak-your-iphone-on-ios-10-using-yalu-and-cydia-impactor-mac

[Yevrah]

What's the price I should expect to pay monthly for an iPhone these days?

[Raoul Duke]

Depends what model/tariff etc. you want, and whether you want to pay more up-front or spread it over the cost of the contract. Around £30-50 or so.

[Magic]

Motorola G4 v Galaxy J5 2016?

To replace a J5 original, which is a great phone but stuck on 5.1 and only has 8GB of ROM.

[Giggles]

The Moto.

J5 has half the screen resolution and a worse processor. The Moto will probably get Android 7.0 too.

[Magic]

Went for the G4, got them to knock it down to £5.50 a month for the phone meaning it's £20 less than buying it in the shops outright. :cool:

[Yevrah]

What's a reasonable amount to pay for an iPhone monthly and how much data should I be looking at getting?

[Giggles]

What's a reasonable amount to pay for an iPhone monthly and how much data should I be looking at getting?

I'm a heavy user and I've a 3GB plan that I use away freely because work pays if I go over anyway, and I haven't exceeded it in over a year.

[Gray Fox]

What do you use your phone for?

Unless you are a very heavy user, 3GB is enough. However your monthly cost depends on how many minutes you want?

[Yevrah]

Probably 200 minutes would suffice and 200 texts.

[Gray Fox]

Probably 200 minutes would suffice and 200 texts.

Average price seems to be £40-45 for the iPhone 7 with £100 up front. Unless you were willing to go for the 6/6s?

[CJay]

I have a 4gb plan and usually come within 1gb of it. I browse a lot and read a lot of news / Twitter / email / whatsapp. Generally unless you're streaming video regularly you should be fine with 2-4gb.

I bought outright in October, but chose a 6s rather than a 7. Not because I love the headphone jack or anything - the 7 just didn't have enough oomph for me personally to justify spending more.

[Raoul Duke]

2-4Gb, depending on how much you're on wi-fi or using it whilst commuting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm having to shit through my data as the Uni's wifi is absolutely shocking and I need to use my phone as a hotspot.

I was pretty comfortable at 1GB before but now I'm struggling on 3GB.

[Magic]

I use about 8GB a month.

[Raoul Duke]

Gotta get that HD midget porn

[Magic]

Forbidden on my account. :(

[Giggles]

This is serious value.

https://m.johnlewis.com/moto-z-smartphone-android-5-5-4g-lte-sim-free-32gb/black/silver/p/2985783

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thoughts on the OnePlus 3T? Thinking of buying it in mid-April probably.

[Giggles]

Thoughts on the OnePlus 3T? Thinking of buying it in mid-April probably.

Won't get anything better at the money. Well worth getting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And ordered.

Should be with me in a few days and then I'll sell my Xperia on Ebay to claw some of the money back.

[Samadini]

This is serious value.

https://m.johnlewis.com/moto-z-smartphone-android-5-5-4g-lte-sim-free-32gb/black/silver/p/2985783

I got that with the JBL Soundboost chucked in for free at the same price (assuming you linked the £298 deal), which I sold on. Really an excellent phone.

[Giggles]

Get the new black one?

@Mahow

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Get the new black one?

Just the Gunmetal, I only need 64GB of storage so there's no point paying £40 for double that capacity.

[Giggles]

I got that with the JBL Soundboost chucked in for free at the same price (assuming you linked the £298 deal), which I sold on. Really an excellent phone.

I'd the Play version for a few weeks and really found it brilliant, couldn't empty the battery on it at all. Would have liked to pick up that speaker mod to give it a go though.

[Giggles]

Just the Gunmetal, I only need 64GB of storage so there's no point paying £40 for double that capacity.

True. It's not too much to pay to double the storage but with the likes of Spotify and cloud photo/file backups I barely even need even 32GB these days.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm pushed on my Xperia with 32 but I've got a lot of apps that I don't open.

[Adamski]

I really need to get some sort of easy cloud storage sorted. It's a fucking nightmare on iOS.

[CJay]

I really need to get some sort of easy cloud storage sorted. It's a fucking nightmare on iOS.

Really? Other than the fact that it costs a minimal amount money I don't see how it's a nightmare. What's the issue?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's scared that his naughty pictures will be stolen and leaked.

No one wants to see him in a gimp mask though so he shouldn't worry.

[Gray Fox]

I have a potential new phone opportunity coming up. The Mrs, having taken my 6+ off me when her phone broke a year ago, is now in the final month of her contract. Despite having dropped it many times. Me insisting her using a case on it has kept it in essentially the same condition as when I gave it to her and so could be sold for a few hundred whilst she can upgrade.
I've been offered the upgrade as I'm far more bothered about technology like this than she is, providing I keep the monthly cost at maximum of £50

Now I like the top of the rangers usually and have the S7 Edge now. So there's the obvious S8 choice.

Is there anything else to look into? I know LG have another flagship due out anytime and that HTC seem to have very quickly died off, but is anything else worth a look? I've heard someone mention the Pixel to me but other than that I've not kept up on the phone market too much.

[igor_balis]

I've had the vodofone smart ultra for less than a year, but I'm already thinking of upgrading. When I was skint, the ~£100 price tag appealed a lot, but I'm starting to get a bit annoyed that even very limited apps are making it crash, and the battery life is pretty appalling. I have money and might actually have the security of a permanent job contract soon so thinking of entering the world of proper phones.

Am I right in assuming that paying outright for a handset then getting a sim only deal is still the best value? I pay about £20/month for 20GB data and unlimited everything else at the moment.

[Giggles]

I have a potential new phone opportunity coming up. The Mrs, having taken my 6+ off me when her phone broke a year ago, is now in the final month of her contract. Despite having dropped it many times. Me insisting her using a case on it has kept it in essentially the same condition as when I gave it to her and so could be sold for a few hundred whilst she can upgrade.
I've been offered the upgrade as I'm far more bothered about technology like this than she is, providing I keep the monthly cost at maximum of £50

Now I like the top of the rangers usually and have the S7 Edge now. So there's the obvious S8 choice.

Is there anything else to look into? I know LG have another flagship due out anytime and that HTC seem to have very quickly died off, but is anything else worth a look? I've heard someone mention the Pixel to me but other than that I've not kept up on the phone market too much.

The LG G6 looks good and is a bit more interesting camera wise than the Samsung. Forget HTC, they're slipping further and further behind the rest.
Pixel is excellent but the hardware has been left behind of late so I'd hold off for the next one later this year. Actually if you've an S7 Edge now then I'd hold off until the Autumn and see what the Note 8, the new Pixel, Oneplus 5, and the new iPhone are like. That's what I'm doing myself.

If it can't be pushed out and you've to jump now then I'd still get the S8+ from the lot.

[Giggles]

I've had the vodofone smart ultra for less than a year, but I'm already thinking of upgrading. When I was skint, the ~£100 price tag appealed a lot, but I'm starting to get a bit annoyed that even very limited apps are making it crash, and the battery life is pretty appalling. I have money and might actually have the security of a permanent job contract soon so thinking of entering the world of proper phones.

Am I right in assuming that paying outright for a handset then getting a sim only deal is still the best value? I pay about £20/month for 20GB data and unlimited everything else at the moment.

Not sure how the contracts work over there, but if you want to buy up front and still don't want to spend an absolute fortune then the Oneplus 3T is the no brainer. Though I got to play with an Honor 8 Pro the other day too which is in the same price bracket and it's class. Messier software, better camera.

[Giggles]

I really need to get some sort of easy cloud storage sorted. It's a fucking nightmare on iOS.

Can you not just stick Google Drive/Dropbox/OneDrive on it? Or do you not get a load of that iCloud storage for buying the phone?

[Raoul Duke]

Can you not just stick Google Drive/Dropbox/OneDrive on it? Or do you not get a load of that iCloud storage for buying the phone?

They're all pretty much the same. You get some iCloud storage, can buy more and the upgrade prices are not too bad. If you use Pages/Numbers/Keynote then it's alright and the Apple Photos app is ok.

[Giggles]

I've had to install Google Photos on a load of the iPhones in work as they all find the built in app too awkward to navigate. Haven't really had a look myself but I presume they're all just mongs. The small quality loss doesn't really bother me when the storage is free and if there's any photo I really want at full resolution I take it in DNG anyway.

The Office365 subscription that I pay for anyway gives you 1TB of OneDrive storage so almost all other files go there. I got 250GB of Google Drive storage for 2 years when I bought the LG G4 but that's nearly expired so I had to move everything.

[Adamski]

I've got Dropbox for it which is fine but it's a fucking pain uploading photos (you need to leave the app open) and then having to manually delete the photos on your phone. Just want something that will upload on a monthly basis and delete them from device.

I don't really understand iCloud, so haven't bothered using it

[Giggles]

I've got Dropbox for it which is fine but it's a fucking pain uploading photos (you need to leave the app open) and then having to manually delete the photos on your phone. Just want something that will upload on a monthly basis and delete them from device.

I don't really understand iCloud, so haven't bothered using it

Give Google Photos a try. There's a 'Clean up Space' button in the main menu that will delete anything it has a copy of uploaded, plus the search function is better than any other gallery app because of the AI they use.

The downside is that you either have to pay for Drive storage and upload the photos at full original quality or you can have free unlimited downloads at a slightly reduced quality. That said, you won't notice unless you blow them up to A4 or something but you can check out a few backups and see if you're happy before you delete anything. The Photoscan app from Google Photos is brilliant for adding old hard copy photos to your gallery too.

[Adamski]

Cool I'll look into it. Not bothered about the reduction in quality, it's literally just because I take a lot of photos and can't be arsed deleting them.

[Giggles]

I just zoomed in on a photo from my gallery and my Google photos gallery and I can't see any difference anyway.

[wullie]

Google Photos is great, you'd have to work with some serious resolution to need the paid option. Best thing was when I moved to an Android phone and set it up and suddenly 10 years' worth of photos I thought I'd lost all appeared.

[SvN]

The same happened with my wife. Her phone got stolen when we were in the last few days of our 6 week trip, and she was more pissed off about the photos. But we managed to recover them all when we got home using Google Photos.

Cloud storage, for all of the bed press it gets because of people being phished/"hacked", is an incredible innovation.

[Gray Fox]

Woke up this morning and she's dropped the phone and by the looks of it, it's landed on the only part where some of the case had broken away. Completely spider-webbed the screen. I swear she is doing it on purpose.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Does she have mangled hands?

[Giggles]

She does now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Alex Brooker handles things better.

[Adamski]

I just zoomed in on a photo from my gallery and my Google photos gallery and I can't see any difference anyway.


Google Photos is great, you'd have to work with some serious resolution to need the paid option. Best thing was when I moved to an Android phone and set it up and suddenly 10 years' worth of photos I thought I'd lost all appeared.

This seems to be doing the trick although it's taking an age to back them all up. The feature to delete them from your library is a godsend.

Is there a way to set up a regular back up?

[Giggles]

This seems to be doing the trick although it's taking an age to back them all up. The feature to delete them from your library is a godsend.

Is there a way to set up a regular back up?

It'll be in the settings but it should be backing up constantly from now. Should be able to set it to backup only on WiFi or only when charging too.

[wullie]

Yeah, any time I make a change it backs up automatically when I'm connected to wi-fi.

[Gray Fox]

Does she have mangled hands?

She's clumsy as fuck. You know that person who seems to break everything she touches? That's her. This is the 3rd iPhone she has broken, though 1 wasn't really her fault.

Gutting as if it had held on for literally a week longer, we'd have been up money wise, going into a new phone. Now it's looking kind of mandatory I'm losing money.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

First impressions of the Oneplus are really good.

It looks and feels brilliant.

[Gray Fox]

Galaxy S8 ordered. I wouldn't have but Vodafone let me upgrade for a tenner and I'd only be paying £2 a month more. Seemed daft not to.

I can get the iPhone screen repaired for £80. Fix it and then sell it for £200 and I'm still up on money, just not by as much.

[Giggles]

Which iPhone is it?

[Gray Fox]

6 plus.

Apple quote £156 for a fix. GAME(I didn't know they did it) and a local phone shop will do it for £75(but takes a week) and £80(done in an hour) respectively.

[Giggles]

I've changed one on a regular 6 before and it's not bad using the ifixit guide. Screen was around 25 euro iirc. Though 80 isn't bad to save the hassle.

[Gray Fox]

Thought as much myself. To be done in the hour is also pretty damn good.

[Adamski]

It literally takes these places 10 minutes to do. Huge mark up but yeah it's not a bad price considering the alternatives.

[Gray Fox]

Got my S8 yesterday and got chance to set it up this morning. I was hoping it wouldn't be an network locked phone, hoping companies stopped doing this. Obviously I was wrong. Got in touch with with Vodafone and they refuse to give me one until I've used a Vodafone SIM in it for 30 days as a fraud prevention measure. Went back and forth on this saying I'd prove/provide anything they asked to prove it wasn't fraud. They responded telling me it was an essential requirement as a fraud prevention measure. Obviously going in circles.

Given I've now an expensive brick unless I can unlock it, are there other ways to unlock it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It seems there are 3 options.

1. Put a Vodafone Sim in it for 30 days
2. Buy a code on Ebay
3. See if a friend/family member is a Vodafone customer who can get it unlocked through them.

[Giggles]

Yeah, eBay. About a tenner.

[Gray Fox]

It's shameful for me that eBay has been around for so long and I didn't even consider it. I'll get on it now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sent my phone into a company to sell it so I didn't have to bother with Ebay:


Your phone has pressure marks on the screen also scuff marks on the bezel.

We aim to offer a competitive market price and can confirm that we are able to pay you £13.00

:harold:

The only reason why I sent it in was because they offered £130. Fucking charlatans, I guess Ebay it is.

[SvN]

Yeah they do that a lot - it's basically their business model.

[Kikó]

I managed to crack my screen on the weekend after drinking too much. Not sure whether or not it's time to retire the one plus x or keep it going for another day. It's such a cracking phone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah they do that a lot - it's basically their business model.

I was aware but I didn't realise it would be that much of a reduction.

[Adamski]

Send it to o2 or EE recycle.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Send it to o2 or EE recycle.

They're only offering £90.

Selling for a lot more on Ebay but I don't have the box for it which will affect the price.

[Offshore Toon]

Watch them send a different phone back and you'll just accept it like a bitch.

[Giggles]

Did you install Android O on your Pixel C yet Sir Andy Mahowry? Very usable for a beta.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not yet, will do so though.

Edit: It's downloading.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like it a lot. I don't think much has changed but there are no negative changes that I've seen.

Looks a lot smarter too.

[Boydy]

Starting to think of replacing my phone (galaxy s5) as it's getting very slow and the battery life is pretty turd now.

What's a decent budget smartphone now? I think I'd rather but something outright than be locked into a contract for two years.

[Giggles]

Starting to think of replacing my phone (galaxy s5) as it's getting very slow and the battery life is pretty turd now.

What's a decent budget smartphone now? I think I'd rather but something outright than be locked into a contract for two years.

Budget budget or something mid range?

The Moto G5's are the best budget ones. Going up a bit, take a look at the Moto Z Play, Honor 8 Pro, and the OnePlus 3T. All will have anything you'll want, the first two are battery beasts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I feel that the Oneplus is a bit of a battery beast too and it charges up really fast.

[Giggles]

I feel that the Oneplus is a bit of a battery beast too and it charges up really fast.

True, the dash charge is the best I've ever seen on a phone. Only one you could realistically plug in for 40 mins from empty and have enough for the day.

The other two have 4000mAh batteries and that 625 processor though that is a real low user.

[Boydy]

Budget budget. Those last three are all about £400. The G5 looks more about what I was thinking.

[Giggles]

Budget budget. Those last three are all about £400. The G5 looks more about what I was thinking.

Take a look at the Lenovo P2 also. Never got my hands on one but apparently it's very good too and has an even bigger battery (5100mAh) with the same chip as the 8 Pro and Z Play. Around €275 so I'd say you'd get it for £200.

[Offshore Toon]

Starting to think of replacing my phone (galaxy s5) as it's getting very slow and the battery life is pretty turd now.

What's a decent budget smartphone now? I think I'd rather but something outright than be locked into a contract for two years.
Check out the Wileyfox range on Amazon. They're about £80-£100 and I don't have any complaints at all.

[Boydy]

I was looking at their website the other day. Have you got one then? Which one? What's it like? What's with the other version of Android they use? Is it basically just the same?

[Giggles]

Their website still says Cyanogen, which is dead so unless they get something else like Linage you probably won't see updates. Cyanogen was basically standard Android like you find on a Nexus phone but with more options.

EDIT: Was getting mixed up, Cyanogen is still alive. It's CyanogenMod that died and became Linage.

[Boydy]

Their website still says Cyanogen, which is dead so unless they get something else like Linage you probably won't see updates. Cyanogen was basically standard Android like you find on a Nexus phone but with more options.

EDIT: Was getting mixed up, Cyanogen is still alive. It's CyanogenMod that died and became Linage.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/12/24/cyanogen-failed-to-kill-android-now-it-is-shuttering-its-services-and-os-as-part-of-a-pivot/

Is it not the other way around?

I didn't realise it had died so I might avoid that then.

[Offshore Toon]

I was looking at their website the other day. Have you got one then? Which one? What's it like? What's with the other version of Android they use? Is it basically just the same?
I've got the Wileyfox Swift. I've had it for just over a year now. What's it like? I don't really know what to say. Its Android and does everything I ask of it. Its starting to slow a little bit and its funny with the Snapchat and Facebook apps (not that I use them often), but my mate has one and hasn't had that problem. The battery life is really good, but I keep it on the lower brightness settings. I should probably add that I don't demand much from it and use Whatsapp, Messenger, Chrome and Reddit 95% of the time I'm on my phone. I download the odd game now and then and they run fine.

[Giggles]

https://techcrunch.com/2016/12/24/cyanogen-failed-to-kill-android-now-it-is-shuttering-its-services-and-os-as-part-of-a-pivot/

Is it not the other way around?

I didn't realise it had died so I might avoid that then.

Actually yeah I think I was right first time because it was Cyanogen that was originally on the OnePlus phones and they switched to their own then.

Of the other two, the Moto would be closer to AOSP than the Lenovo but there's not much in it. Lenovo's skin always has a few nice touches added on too.

[Offshore Toon]

I've been having notifications for the past week to update my phone so they're clearly still doing something.

[Offshore Toon]

Anybody know anything about power banks? What kind of power should I be looking at to give me 4-5 charges?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/25000mAh-Portable-Capacity-External-Flashlight/dp/B01MU5T2KE/ref=sr_1_6?s=telephone&ie=UTF8&qid=1495969605&sr=1-6&keywords=power+bank

Would this do it?

[Giggles]

They never really give the charges expected going by capacity of power bank ÷ phone battery capacity, but that should give you 4 easily. The 1A outputs will be as slow as Christmas but the others will be fine.
Not sure what phone you have but if it has fast charging then have a look at this, or something like it, too.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01N0QANOE/

[Offshore Toon]

I doubt mine will be fast charging as its nothing special. The battery is 2500mAh, so I think I'll go with this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01JUCG1OW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1A5B1FMTVVK1U&coliid=I1K5X3VBI6L989&psc=1) as its a bit cheaper. On paper I should get 6 charges out of that, so since 4 would easily do it I should be okay.

Cheers.

[Giggles]

I doubt mine will be fast charging as its nothing special. The battery is 2500mAh, so I think I'll go with this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01JUCG1OW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1A5B1FMTVVK1U&coliid=I1K5X3VBI6L989&psc=1) as its a bit cheaper. On paper I should get 6 charges out of that, so since 4 would easily do it I should be okay.

Cheers.

Yep has a 2A out and plenty for what you need. 2500mAh won't charge slowly anyway so you're sorted.

[Offshore Toon]

Awesome. Thanks.

[Raoul Duke]

Anybody know anything about power banks? What kind of power should I be looking at to give me 4-5 charges?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/25000mAh-Portable-Capacity-External-Flashlight/dp/B01MU5T2KE/ref=sr_1_6?s=telephone&ie=UTF8&qid=1495969605&sr=1-6&keywords=power+bank

Would this do it?

Few options here: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-usb-battery-packs/

[Giggles]

This Essential phone Andy Rubin has done looks pretty interesting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bought a second sim (data only (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006H7BKXG)) to use in my Oneplus 3T in Croatia.

I've put roaming on the data sim and have it off on my main sim. I shouldn't incur any costs, should I?

[Raoul Duke]

If you're going after 15th of June then roaming charges are ending in EU countries: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/content/frequently-asked-questions-roam-home

Good ol' EU. Great for consumer protection and standardising stuff across multiple country borders. Glad we're not rejecting that because a bunch of fuckwits chucked their toys out the pram due to a bunch of made-up nonsense peddled by the Murdoch press

oh

[Giggles]

It was great here too for a lot of people as all the networks put up their prices to make up for the roaming losses meaning you could get out of your contract at any stage because of the hike.

If you'd just got a €900 phone on a 24 month deal you could cancel and keep the handset :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If you're going after 15th of June then roaming charges are ending in EU countries: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/content/frequently-asked-questions-roam-home

Good ol' EU. Great for consumer protection and standardising stuff across multiple country borders. Glad we're not rejecting that because a bunch of fuckwits chucked their toys out the pram due to a bunch of made-up nonsense peddled by the Murdoch press

oh
Going today, returning on the 8th.

So I needed to sort something but I've never used a dual sim.

[Giggles]

https://www.cnet.com/uk/how-to/what-you-need-to-know-about-using-two-sim-cards-on-the-oneplus-3/

Sounds like you already have it sorted. I'd say if you don't take any calls then you should be fine. See if you can turn data off completely for your UK SIM.

[Giggles]

This HTC might be old hat as far as design goes but it's actually nice having a flat screen and bezels on a phone again. That camera too :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

I now have the S8. I loved the S6, this is not quite the same but the media and stuff is better I suppose.

[Giggles]

I now have the S8. I loved the S6, this is not quite the same but the media and stuff is better I suppose.

How much of a hassle is the fingerprint scanner? That was my main reason for avoiding it, though I only had it for 5 days or so.

[Giggles]

Why can't anything ever be straightforward?

https://www.rte.ie/news/technology/2017/0612/882239-roaming-charges-eu/

[Raoul Duke]

It's only complex if you're the sort of person who goes over your limit. I doubt most people get anywhere near what they have available, and even then you just go back to essentially the same cost as it would have been previously.

[Magic]

I asked my work and I'm on an unlimited data bundle so I can whore it. :drool:

What a time to go on holiday in the EU.

[Boydy]

I've got the abroad stuff in my contract. Not that I ever really need it but it's nice that it's there anyway. Meant I had no fear about using my phone when I was in Poland a couple of months ago. Got a text after I got back telling me I'd saved about £30 thanks to it. Not that I'd have used it if I had actually had to pay, of course, but it's still handy.

[Dquincy]

I asked my work and I'm on an unlimited data bundle so I can whore it. :drool:

What a time to go on holiday in the EU.

Don't worry, the sterling conversion will still cripple your wallet regardless.

[Dquincy]

I now have the S8. I loved the S6, this is not quite the same but the media and stuff is better I suppose.
We have S6's for the work phones and i need to renew the contract in October. Is the S8 worth getting? Basically, can people ranging from a young scally wag to a 65 yr old man, who's slightly senile, get to grips with the S8?

[Jimmy Floyd]

How much of a hassle is the fingerprint scanner? That was my main reason for avoiding it, though I only had it for 5 days or so.

Zero, as you don't have to use it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We have S6's for the work phones and i need to renew the contract in October. Is the S8 worth getting? Basically, can people ranging from a young scally wag to a 65 yr old man, who's slightly senile, get to grips with the S8?

It's fine, albeit just a bit style over substance.

[Boydy]

I didn't really have you down as a latest model smartphone kinda guy, Jimmy.

[Giggles]

Zero, as you don't have to use it.

Oh yeah I forgot about the iris thing.

[Giggles]

It's only complex if you're the sort of person who goes over your limit. I doubt most people get anywhere near what they have available, and even then you just go back to essentially the same cost as it would have been previously.

I don't really care as work pays all my phone whether I go over or not, but it should be as simple as having your full home allowance in whatever country you're in.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Oh yeah I forgot about the iris thing.

I just use a pin like I have done since the land before time.


I didn't really have you down as a latest model smartphone kinda guy, Jimmy.

I'm not, I'm just on a two year contract cycle that always seems to coincide with the latest lump of Korean crap being released.

[Raoul Duke]

I don't really care as work pays all my phone whether I go over or not, but it should be as simple as having your full home allowance in whatever country you're in.

It is. If you go over that it's into expensive territory, but as I said I doubt most people get near their upper limits.

[Boydy]

I just use a pin like I have done since the land before time.



I'm not, I'm just on a two year contract cycle that always seems to coincide with the latest lump of Korean crap being released.

I'm surprised your work even allow you to have Samsung phone.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm surprised your work even allow you to have Samsung phone.

Everyone here has Samsung phones. If your own company doesn't make X, the next best thing is any other Korean product. Which is great news for Hanguk tyres.

[Giggles]

Iphoners, is the 7 Plus worth €99 over the 7?

[phonics]

I genuinely didn't know there was an iPhone 7. What's the difference between the 6?

[Giggles]

I genuinely didn't know there was an iPhone 7. What's the difference between the 6?

Chipset, camera, and waterproofing. Not sure if the force touch thing is on the 6 either.

There's a 6S between the two of them also, and the 8 (or X) is out in a couple of months.

[CJay]

Would you not wait to see what the next one will be like? My anecdotal advice is that I have a 6s, and once I'd gotten used to the bigger device (upgraded from a 5) I wished I'd bought a 6s Plus instead.

No 3D Touch on the 6. It's actually a really useful feature, but it doesn't get mentioned much.

[Giggles]

Would you not wait to see what the next one will be like? My anecdotal advice is that I have a 6s, and once I'd gotten used to the bigger device (upgraded from a 5) I wished I'd bought a 6s Plus instead.

I've to pick one to get with work this week. I've just bought a U11 so I've no real interest in the Android ones on offer. Probably won't use the iPhone long term but might as well get one for a play with. I'd just have to pay €99 if I wanted the 128GB Plus but the regular size 128GB is free.

Also, if I decide to sell, would a jet black or red tend to shift easier?

[CJay]

The funny thing about the iPhone 7 is that a lot of people who buy it don't even realise there's no headphone jack anymore. A girl in work bought it and she didn't realise until she unboxed it.

[CJay]

I've to pick one to get with work this week. I've just bought a U11 so I've no real interest in the Android ones on offer. Probably won't use the iPhone long term but might as well get one for a play with. I'd just have to pay €99 if I wanted the 128GB Plus but the regular size 128GB is free.

Also, if I decide to sell, would a jet black or red tend to shift easier?

Jet Black apparently gets badly scratched so could work against you?

[Giggles]

Jet Black apparently gets badly scratched so could work against you?

Good to know. I was wondering would the glossy finish mark badly. Though if I decide to sell I won't even be opening it. Pity the red isn't all red and it would be very popular I'd say.

[Giggles]

The funny thing about the iPhone 7 is that a lot of people who buy it don't even realise there's no headphone jack anymore. A girl in work bought it and she didn't realise until she unboxed it.

My new phone is the same, first time I ever had one without it. Doesn't bother me though as on this day and age you'd imagine all headphones would be bluetooth.

Apparently the pre packaged USB-C ones are really good but I haven't tried them.

[CJay]

All depends on whether you think the Plus is too big. If not, I would pay the extra for it.

Isn't Jet Black even more expensive than regular colours, btw?

[Giggles]

All depends on whether you think the Plus is too big. If not, I would pay the extra for it.

Isn't Jet Black even more expensive than regular colours, btw?

No, looking at all the options the storage changes the price but the colors are all the same. It's €200 for a 256GB.

I'll just need to get it shifted if I'm selling before people start hearing too much about the X, as it'll be the first real design change since the 6.

[CJay]

Anyone here with an iPhone regularly swipe away your apps to close them? Well, stop doing it. Annoys me seeing people do it thinking it helps their battery life.

https://daringfireball.net/2017/07/you_should_not_force_quit_apps

[Bernanke]

Pretty sure I'm gonna pick up a Honor 9. It looks like a great phone for the price.

[Adramelch]

Got Huawei P10 lite for 270-ish euros a couple of months back. Pretty good value for money so far, although I have to admit I had an LG before so the bar was set pretty low.

[bruhnaldo]

Anyone here with an iPhone regularly swipe away your apps to close them? Well, stop doing it. Annoys me seeing people do it thinking it helps their battery life.

https://daringfireball.net/2017/07/you_should_not_force_quit_apps

"Apps in the background are effectively “frozen”, severely limiting what they can do in the background and freeing up the RAM they were using."

How can this be possible if i still get notifications from those apps otherwise?

[SvN]

You get notifications even if they're not running.

[bruhnaldo]

Not necessarily but I don't really see the point in arguing so I'll take your word for it lol

[Raoul Duke]

Notifications are not the same as an app.

Push notification services are separate from an app and can receive messages even when the app is inactive.

[Giggles]

Not bad, reminds me of an LG G6 a bit. The early leaks with it in a case made it look like it had no bezels at all.

Hadn't the sound on but presumably the fingerprint scanner is in the screen as I don't see one on the back.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNkOVdpquRo

[Magic]

I dropped my phone in the toilet after I'd done a shit (before flushing).

[CJay]

Not bad, reminds me of an LG G6 a bit. The early leaks with it in a case made it look like it had no bezels at all.

Hadn't the sound on but presumably the fingerprint scanner is in the screen as I don't see one on the back.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNkOVdpquRo

The rumour (leaked in HomePod firmware the other week) is that there will be no touchID on the premium version, with 3D face scanning instead. Interesting that they would ditch after just adding it to the Mac lineup, but they must have a very secure and easy to use alternative if they're ditching it.

We still seem to be a way off having scanners under screens.

[Giggles]

The rumour (leaked in HomePod firmware the other week) is that there will be no touchID on the premium version, with 3D face scanning instead. Interesting that they would ditch after just adding it to the Mac lineup, but they must have a very secure and easy to use alternative if they're ditching it.

We still seem to be a way off having scanners under screens.

I'd heard the yield rates were terrible on the embedded ones which is why I thought it was curious if they were including it. I've since seen some apparent photos taken in foxconn of ones shopping with it mounted on the rear, around the same position as a Pixel.
The face scanning is interesting and if they go with it on some models then you can bet they'll have it secure at least. Hopefully it works better than Samsung's iris experiment, which should hopefully disappear once the screen embedded ones become feasible.

[Giggles]

Oh and lol at Magic. Did you fish it out?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:sick:

[Magic]

Oh and lol at @Magic (http://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/member.php?u=47). Did you fish it out?

Of course I did, thankfully it was a solid one and I'd done lots of wiping but it still sunk half-way down, top end in first thankfully. I stuck my hand right in amongst the ploppers and pulled it out, hand soaked in piss and desperately checking for shite. I went to run it under the tap but realised that would be stupid so pulled the case off, threw that in the sink and wiped my phone to fuck with the hand towel. You really are fucked if that happens. I didn't even wipe it down with Dettol wipes or anything.

[Boydy]

Lol shitty ear.

[Giggles]

Of course I did, thankfully it was a solid one and I'd done lots of wiping but it still sunk half-way down, top end in first thankfully. I stuck my hand right in amongst the ploppers and pulled it out, hand soaked in piss and desperately checking for shite. I went to run it under the tap but realised that would be stupid so pulled the case off, threw that in the sink and wiped my phone to fuck with the hand towel. You really are fucked if that happens. I didn't even wipe it down with Dettol wipes or anything.

IP67 ftw.

[Magic]

My smart arse wife said I talk shit so nobody should notice but I returned with yes but it wasn't the microphone it was the earpiece and that normally serves up your shite so you are correct I won't notice any difference.

Game, set and match.

[Magic]

IP67 ftw.

I'm not even sure if it is, the best thing is it's cracked at the back as well and it was definitely submerged beneath the camera. It's an A5 2016.

[Giggles]

I'm not even sure if it is, the best thing is it's cracked at the back as well and it was definitely submerged beneath the camera. It's an A5 2016.

They're not. I wouldn't really trust any phone even if it had a rating but that one doesn't.


My smart arse wife said I talk shit so nobody should notice but I returned with yes but it wasn't the microphone it was the earpiece and that normally serves up your shite so you are correct I won't notice any difference.

Game, set and match.

Boom :D

[Giggles]

What are the MS Office apps like on an iPad?

[phonics]

They're really good.

[Giggles]

They're really good.

Good range of the features in the likes of excel? I always find the Android tablet ones a bit clunky compared to desktop but I'm really contemplating an iPad pro instead of a new laptop. Ever try the android versions for comparison? Nobody I know with an iPad has an office subscription.

[Boydy]

My old Galaxy S5 barely lasts a day now and it's generally just very slow so I'm going to have to give in and get a new phone. Still, three years out of it isn't bad. The Nokia 8 looks quite decent. Seems to be getting good reviews (although not earth-shattering) but more importantly is reasonably priced. Can get it with unlimited mins and texts and 8GB data for £25 a month with some (automatic) cashback offer for £80 making it effectively £21.67 per month.

Anyone have any other recommendations?

[Spikey M]

A Nokia? Is it 1997 again already?

[Boydy]

They're actually made by HMD now (another Finnish company) and branded as Nokia.

[Boydy]

Doing the old 'I want to leave. Convince me not to.' dance with Three now.

[Boydy]

Got past level 1 . Now going through to the cancellations team. The big boys.

Level 1 pleb's 'deals' were shit too.

[Giggles]

Get a Xiaomi Mi A1 if you're looking a bargain.

[Boydy]

They called my bluff. :moop:

[Boydy]

Get a Xiaomi Mi A1 if you're looking a bargain.

Fuck sending away to China for that though.