Football for the month of February, 2022

[niko_cee]

If Dyche keeps Burnley up again. :cool:

Heard him on 5live on Monday and he really is a geezer.

[Lewis]

I would have taken a shit 1-1 so whatever.

[Luca]

He is a player that lad.

Doesn’t look like a twat either, so he’s probably not battering his girlfriend behind the scenes.

Our lord and saviour, Anthonye Langa.

[Don]

He'll do well to carve out a Europa League career for himself.

[niko_cee]

Which iteration of "that's that part of the team sorted for 10 years" are we on now?

[Boydy]

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Lol


Also is there not even a fucking MOTD on tonight? Jesus christ.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's a fool for taking the job and not waiting for Ole to be sacked.

[Shindig]

I imagine Harry Redknapp ringing Frank up and saying, "I told you to wait a fucking month."

[phonics]

There’s definitely a clause in his contract where he gets a massive payout out of this or he’s shut the fuck up.

[Shindig]

Honestly, United and Spurs need to just stick with a manager for five years and get some stability going.

[randomlegend]

He's a fool for taking the job and not waiting for Ole to be sacked.

The United board would never have appointed Conte in a million years.

[Manc]

Itk.

[Lewis]

His hair transplant represents the immediacy of modern life, and The Club just won't wear it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They need corporate yes men. I imagine Jens Mustermann, or whatever that guy with the stupid suits is called, will be next.

EDIT: Oh, he's gone to Bayern, I thought he was at Leipzig. Absolutely on the button, me. Football sage.

[Boydy]

The United board would never have appointed Conte in a million years.

Why not?

[Lofty]

I am enjoying Conte's apparent existential crisis.

[Andy]

Burnley and Newcastle should be fine. I said a while a go I think Brentford will be the 3rd to go down and still stand by that. Would be hilarious if it's Everton but I think at some point Lampard will see sense and sort them out enough to avoid the drop.

[Ben]

It’s between Leeds and Brentford now I think.

[Manc]

I was set upon last month for suggesting Leeds would go down.

[Don]

Quite rightly too. Brentford also 9th on xPTS.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Leeds won't go down. Brentford are for it, though I'm not quite so sure about Burnley being fine.

[Manc]

Quite rightly too. Brentford also 9th on xPTS.

That Wolves figure can't be accurate.

[Ben]

xAnything is complete bullshit.

[Adramelch]

One thing I've always been wondering about xG is how it accounts for several good chances within the same play, but I am too lazy to actually look it up. Like could you get 2 xG within the same play even though it could only ever result in one goal?

[SvN]

One thing I've always been wondering about xG is how it accounts for several good chances within the same play, but I am too lazy to actually look it up. Like could you get 2 xG within the same play even though it could only ever result in one goal?

I think so. I have vague memories of a saved penalty and follow up having a total xG of well over 1.

[SvN]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60506546


Mark Hughes: Bradford City name former Wales boss as new manager

Sparky has taken over at Bradford, currently placed 15th in League 2. Fuck me, his stock has really fallen hasn't it?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Tough to pull off a destroy and exit in League Two but I'm sure he's up for the challenge.

[SvN]

I had a quick look at the biggest Bradford City forum I could find, and this is the opening post about the appointment.


Are City really that bad that that's the best they can attract now?

:D Poor Sparky.

[Spikey M]

xAnything is complete bullshit.

xPTS
xG
x-men

Your claim checks out.

X gon give it to ya is a banger though. It's probably the exception that proves the rule.

[Ben]

That’ll end in tears all round.

[Kikó]

It's crazy because surely he's not that bad/been that bad. It would suggest he's still hungry for the game if he's dropping down.

[SvN]

It's crazy because surely he's not that bad/been that bad. It would suggest he's still hungry for the game if he's dropping down.

Right, so you'd have him at United then? [/yev]

[Ian]

Right, so you'd have him at United then? [/yev]

Over Ronaldo, yeah.

[Kikó]

Right, so you'd have him at United then? [/yev]

He's a good manager.

Back from Madrid and Manc can report that the WANDA is a great stadium. The noise from the home end on the two occasions they got up carried magnificently. Got mugged off by a car park steward when he "helped" us get to the away end by saying "follow the pyro". A copper then stopped us half way up, white as a sheet as we were going to walk into the ultras.

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[Spikey M]

Is that green pixel the pitch?

[Elbastido]

I had a quick look at the biggest Bradford City forum I could find, and this is the opening post about the appointment.



:D Poor Sparky.

We really have been that bad this season sadly..... Although it seems like a positive appointment to me. Would be nice if he could change our fortunes a bit as we've been shit for what feels like ages now. :-(

[-james-]

One thing I've always been wondering about xG is how it accounts for several good chances within the same play, but I am too lazy to actually look it up. Like could you get 2 xG within the same play even though it could only ever result in one goal?

There are different ways of handling it but it should never exceed 1 xG from a single chance. Most models will take only the first chance, others take the highest or average them.

The error bars on a single shot are pretty big. Even single game xG is pretty pointless.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If I was, like Mark Hughes, one of the top young British managers in the game, I'd actually see Bradford as a great opportunity. City of its size shouldn't be that far down the leagues.

[Elbastido]

If I was, like Mark Hughes, one of the top young British managers in the game, I'd actually see Bradford as a great opportunity. City of its size shouldn't be that far down the leagues.

I'm not sure why - historically we've pretty much always been in the lower two leagues. Yes, it's a large city, but most of the population aren't remotely interested in football. Usually get 14-15k each week which is good, but season tickets are only £200, so don't generate massive revenue.

It's certainly an interesting appointment and I'm really curious to see how it turns out.

[John Arne]

Tekkers.

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[Lewis]

The amount of 'people who aren't interested in football' is also why Bradford rugby is on a long-term road to nowhere. Sporting (and everything else) backwater.

[Elbastido]

Sadly true. Although we did at least have a fairly proud tradition in Rugby as opposed to football back in the day! :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

They produced our best leg spinner ever, so it's a thumbs up from me.

[Elbastido]

And Mason Greenwood...... :eyemouth:

[Reg]

There are different ways of handling it but it should never exceed 1 xG from a single chance. Most models will take only the first chance, others take the highest or average them.

The error bars on a single shot are pretty big. Even single game xG is pretty pointless.
Any thoughts on SI's/Miles' "Football Manager's better than Opta" take on xG?

[-james-]

Any thoughts on SI's/Miles' "Football Manager's better than Opta" take on xG?

You'll have to give me a primer.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dortmund on the ropes.

[phonics]

The HD version of Amazon Prime for these games is awful.

[Ben]

Dortmund have bossed that first half though. Other than the penalty, Rangers didn't do too much. They'll have to step it up because Dortmund will easily get another at this rate.

Bellingham is on another level. Plays like someone ten years older.

[Ben]

Oh boy have Rangers turned it on.

[Baz]

The HD version of Amazon Prime for these games is awful.:confused:

Looks mega.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:confused:

Looks mega.

I think it always looks great, not sure why people moan about the quality of their streams.

Unless their internet is shit.

[Baz]

Damn. I wanna see Coady stroll out to the Champions League music. :(

[Waffdon]

Keeper somehow managed to punch that in his own net.

Arsenal might get 4th. Not sure what their run of fixtures are, mind.

[Ben]

I think it always looks great, not sure why people moan about the quality of their streams.

Unless their internet is shit.

To me the quality is great, just the backlighting is a bit dim compared to Sky/BT.

[Lewis]

Rangers. :cool:

[phonics]

It's fine on TV but the web version sucks.

Look at the fucking pixels.

https://i.imgur.com/Mk4l9zz.png

Get fucked Wolves.

[Waffdon]

They love a good result in Europe followed by mediocrity in the domestic league. Another season with no trophies beckons

[Adramelch]

Arsenal might get 4th. Not sure what their run of fixtures are, mind.

Much easier than West Ham and United.

[Reg]

Barca were really impressive last night. Great to watch and seemed genuinely well coached. Helps they've brought in Aubameyang and (a more effective than ever? Considering he scored/assisted roughly once per million games for Wolves) Adama. De Jong looks more like his Ajax self, he's a really fun player.


You'll have to give me a primer.
As far as I know they've not really explained it in depth, just thought it was interesting that they reckoned Opta and co's models were unsatisfactory so came up with their own.

'Field tilt' is the hipster Athletic-hyped stat that's interested me most.

[Ian]

I can't even imagine what xG would look like in any CM/FM game I've ever played.

Do they still balance things out by most 1-1 draws featuring 78 shots on target for the player team and 2 for the AI team?

[Baz]

Yeah, Frenkie De Jong is top drawer. Great player.

[-james-]

Barca were really impressive last night. Great to watch and seemed genuinely well coached. Helps they've brought in Aubameyang and (a more effective than ever? Considering he scored/assisted roughly once per million games for Wolves) Adama. De Jong looks more like his Ajax self, he's a really fun player.


As far as I know they've not really explained it in depth, just thought it was interesting that they reckoned Opta and co's models were unsatisfactory so came up with their own.

'Field tilt' is the hipster Athletic-hyped stat that's interested me most.

They will have had to come up with their own because in real life constructing an xG model involves pissing about with piles of historical data and make various assumptions that are meaningless in a computer game.

I have no idea what the FM back end looks like, but I'm guessing that the framework for an xG model was by design already built in. A player with 15 finishing and 9 composure is taking a shot from co-ordinates x and y, the ball is at height y, there are x defenders between him and the goal and so on; this is the probability the goal is scored. The game rolls a 100 sided dice to decide if it goes in or not.

[Ben]

In news that probably wouldn’t have escaped us on any other day, a Brazilian team bus was bombed overnight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60520643

[niko_cee]

Without wanting to derail the F1 thread, I am intrigued to see what, if anything, happens on Sunday with regards to all this Ukraine shit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hopefully they have about a 20 minute silence and focus the camera on Marina throughout.

[niko_cee]

Any questions to Tuchel on the matter in his press conference?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Only this:


The Champions League final is going to be moved from Saint Petersburg after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, is that the right thing to do?

"Yes. A clear yes, and sadly I think it's the worse reason to change a location. The absolutely worst reason. We feel horrible about it in general, it clouds our minds and focus, of course. We can absolutely understand the decision.

[Waffdon]

Ché Adams in some lovely form in time to take Scotland into the World Cup :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Pretty classic Scotland that the entire world will now be rooting against them in their semi final.

[Giggles]

Pretty classic Scotland that the entire world will now be rooting against them in their semi final.

That should always be the case no matter the opposition.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There's that Brandon Williams tackle straight through the back of an opponent again. The nastiest player in football.

[Ben]

Brandon Williams is fucking terrible. He must have the best agent in the world to have conned £70k a week out of Man Utd.

[Lewis]

Or the worst club administrators.

[Luke Emia]

Brandon Williams is fucking terrible. He must have the best agent in the world to have conned £70k a week out of Man Utd.

One of the Radio Norfolk commentators was saying he should play for England last week.

I watch a fair amount of Norwich with them being local and all. What is a Billy Gilmour? What does it do? Most of the way through the season and a lot like Oliver Skipp last year I see a lot of sideways passing and not much else.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We should have put him in a top tier Championship team where he can actually learn how to influence games on the ball, rather than with some bunch of effeminate pastry chefs who barely get possession and are going down in last place, hopefully this time for good.

[Ben]

It would have been pointless at the time because we had Warnock but in Wilder's team, he'd be brilliant.

[Waffdon]

I still have faith in him. He might just be suited to international football right enough. Donned Phillips and Rice senseless at Wembley.

Looks like Conor Gallagher will be ahead of him in the pecking order now. Not sure where he fits in a Tuchel side though. Would be wasted sitting in a 2 or in an attacking position. Would suit playing as a 3rd centre mid for Liverpool

[Luke Emia]

I still have faith in him. He might just be suited to international football right enough. Donned Phillips and Rice senseless at Wembley.


I was going to ask if he played in the 0-0 win for Scotland.

[Waffdon]

A Liverpool fan bitter over Scotland? Fake. Fake. Fake.

[Kikó]

There's that Brandon Williams tackle straight through the back of an opponent again. The nastiest player in football.

Bit harsh. I think he's just a bit shit.

[Luke Emia]

Fair play to the Poles looks like they are refusing to play Russia in the playoffs for the World Cup hopefully the Swede’s and Czech’s say the same.

On the World Cup did anyone see what Infantino said the other day? What a fucking idiot.

[Ben]

No doubt they’ll throw out the teams refusing to play and give Russia a bye all the way to the finals.

[Ian]

United not on TV. :drool:

[Ben]

I’m not paying too much attention but I’m sure I just heard Glenn Hoddle say Leeds’ defence looks more solid now. :cab:

[Ben]

Does BT Sport through the website always shit the bed once or twice in the first ten minutes of every PL game for anyone else? Even more bizarrely it’s always flawless after that.

[Ben]

Ooh Kulusevski looks decent.

[Lewis]

Leeds have a whiff of a team where once the confidence/whatever is gone they will just got tonked every week from here.

[Shindig]

They have a good team unit, bless 'em but no real star power to kick them into life. At best, they come back up like Fulham with an invigorated 60 goal Championship striker.

[Giggles]

I just seen Doherty scored. I didn’t realise he got a minute for them any more.

[Spikey M]

I just seen Doherty scored. I didn’t realise he got a minute for them any more.

He's been their best Right Back this season. Emerson Royal is a complete fraud, mind.

[Giggles]

Were they not trying to run him back to Wolves in January?

[Spikey M]

Were they not trying to run him back to Wolves in January?

Yeah, but they were trying to get Adama Traore in his place. Fuck knows why.

[Reg]

The potential of Traore is still mighty. Mighty like his oiled arms you might say.

Did anyone except Burnley and Newcastle want Burnley and Newcastle to stay up over Leeds? :(

[Ben]

I don’t know how anyone wants Burnley to stay up. Absolute dour football and everyone has had enough of the “Little Burnley” narrative now.

[Spikey M]

He's 26 and despite top level coaching for much of has career still has no end product whatsoever. He's just a Sprinter.

[randomlegend]

Bit harsh. I think he's just a bit shit.

He's definitely got a nasty streak in him, but "the nastiest player in football" when you've got absolute scum like Tyrone Mings playing is laughable.

I heard he'd been good the last few weeks but I don't watch Norwich much. He was appalling the game I went to see against Villa.

[randomlegend]

He's 26 and despite top level coaching for much of has career still has no end product whatsoever. He's just a Sprinter.

He's got about 5 assists since being back at Barca hasn't he?

[Alex]

That quote about the definition of insanity being (and I'm paraphrasing here) "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome" may have never applied more aptly to anything than it does to Leeds United's current approach to playing football.

He is "El Loco" for a reason though. And I do still love him. But fucking hell, it's rough going at the moment.

[Offshore Toon]

Joelinton with a booming header then sprinting the length of the pitch to celebrate with the fans. :drool:

He's gonna be a club legend.

[Ben]

Joelinton with a booming header then sprinting the length of the pitch to celebrate with the fans. :drool:

He's gonna be a club legend.

You mean he isn't already?

[Gray Fox]

Bielsa rumoured to be ON THE BRINK.

[Lewis]

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lol

[Waffdon]

Abramovich looking to sell up shop? He’s handed over the stewardship of the club to the club’s foundation

[Ben]

Chelsea is his asset so could technically be seized by Government. So he's put it in the (temporary, he's still owner) hands of British citizens so that can't/won't happen.

[niko_cee]

Presumably you can't get round things that easily, so hopefully he's accidentally put Chelsea into the hands of Captain Sir Tom's family.

[Shindig]

"Abraham Romanovich, Jewish investor and Rabbi."

[randomlegend]

Christ you'd be restarting if you had that United game on FM.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only if you're a scumbag.

[Waffdon]

Poker face would

[Lofty]

2 points behind United with 3 games in hand :drool:

[Lewis]

"Abraham Romanovich, Jewish investor and Rabbi."

He should lean right into this and call his critics anti-Semites.

'Oligarch? Who is an oligarch?'
*gesturing all over*

[niko_cee]

Given the penalty they were bunged against Spurs last week [and maybe looking back the one against Wolves] fucking lol at that VAR decision.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If they do indeed sack Bielsa (which seems like it's a done deal) then Leeds are back to being a nothing club very quickly.

[Ian]

I dunno, I can see how it'd be handy to have a manager who doesn't effectively choose to forfeit certain games with his tactics.

[Boydy]

Christ you'd be restarting if you had that United game on FM.

And picking a different team to manage?

[-james-]

Bielsa's gone. That's a shame.

[Ben]

Who’s coming in?

[-james-]

"Jesse Marsch" apparently. I hope they go down.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, fuck em, another 20 years please.

[Gray Fox]

There are now too many teams I want to go down. Can we increase the number for one season please?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"Jesse Marsch" apparently. I hope they go down.

lol. Burnley are safe.

Bye Leeds.

[Don]

They're down and they're down hard. Watch how they plummet to their true level now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They would have stayed up with Bielsa, probably easily.

[Lewis]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

I just lolled at his statement. He's probably in the bunker making Vlad his super noodles and cocoa.

[Giggles]

Given all the hype here, Kelleher is due an absolute nightmare today.

[phonics]

Bielsa officially gone.

[Gray Fox]

Given all the hype here, Kelleher is due an absolute nightmare today.

I don't think so. I await to be proved wrong but from what I've seen of the lad he's very good. I hope he sticks around for whenever Alisson decides it's time to move on.

[Waffdon]

He won’t have much to worry about anyway assuming Lukaku starts. If he doesn’t and it’s Havertz up front and Reece James down the right then we might have a decent game

[Lofty]

Why are rangers 12/1 to win away at Motherwell?

[-james-]

You might need to adjust your set. Unless it's a new customers £10 max bet thing.

[Lofty]

Think the skybet app shit the bed.

[Alex]

Bielsa officially gone.

And the clubs entire identity with him. Strong chance it all falls apart very quickly now. Shameful stuff from the board in my opinion, and in the opinion of almost every other Leeds fan I know.

They have the gall to talk about plans for a "permanent tribute" to him at Elland Road in the same statement announcing his sacking. I'll tell you what a fitting "tribute" to the man would have been, letting him get on with his fucking job. They can stick their statue/renaming of a stand/whatever other shit they think of up their arse, to be quite honest.

[Jimmy Floyd]

At board level it's about 22/23 TV money, nothing else matters. Same at any club.

[Lewis]

A 'permanent tribute' to a three season manager is Birmingham retiring shirt numbers tier.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He was at Newell's for two years and their stadium is named after him.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lumped on Liverpool for this. Our heads will have gone.

[Giggles]

He was at Newell's for two years and their stadium is named after him.

That’s just another example of small time.

[Waffdon]

Lumped on Liverpool for this. Our heads will have gone.

Alonso versus Salah would have been a good enough reason to.

[Gray Fox]

I hope it will be more like the mental Stamford Bridge game than the bore draw at Anfield. Though we didn't have a midfield that day so we had to play that way.

Tuchel sides always tend to attack well against Klopp, it's just whether or attack can get back at them.

A shame to see Elliott and Jones miss out, but someone has to. I also suspect Jota wont be ready for anything more than about 10 mins at the end.

[Ben]

Thiago injured again…

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lots of Ukraine flags in our end, wonder if the players will do anything. Will look awful if Liverpool do and they don't.

[Gray Fox]

He's so very good but he never gets a good run in the team.

[Ben]

Van Dijk and a couple of others didn’t look too pleased with Liverpool fans singing YNWA over the national anthem.

[Magic]

The Chelsea/Ukraine flags. :D

[Gray Fox]

I feel Diaz is key to how we do. He's had some easy games to break him in but this is about as tough as it will ever get for him. Lets see what he can do.

[Manc]

Thiago injured again…

Don

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not liking the Diaz/Mane vs Chalobah axis on that side.

[Manc]

What a stop.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That was one of the best double saves I've ever seen.

[Waffdon]

Pulisic and Mount missing sitters is par for the course. Chelsea could do with bringing Reece James on for Chalobah and moving Azpilicueta inside

[Gray Fox]

There's been so many times a pass has been making its way into the box in really dangerous situations and then out comes Kante to cut it out.

No idea how this is 0-0.

[Waffdon]

Diaz played about 5 no look passes in that half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mason Mount is so shit.

[Waffdon]

Mount in front of goal :lol:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Mount has always been mentally weak in front of goal, and in other high-leverage moments. It's basically what stops him being the best player in the country, he has everything else.

[Waffdon]

That’s a clear red surely

[Manc]

Not a chance.

[Gray Fox]

I don’t know what the fuck the ref is looking at today.

That’s at least an over to the monitor surely?

[Lewis]

That looked like a really clever goal.

[Manc]

Game's gone.

[Waffdon]

Kante has been absolutely horrendous on the ball. First touch of a non league player.

[John Arne]

What? How? What on earth is going on?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dijkey was offside and blocked the defender's movement towards the ball, clear offside.

[Boydy]

Get Jota on.

[Waffdon]

Jota winner all over this. Such a good player

[John Arne]

Dijkey was offside and blocked the defender's movement towards the ball, clear offside.

I didn't see much blocking going on.. but hey ho.

[Lewis]

Yet again we're looking at managers failing to wear suits for cup finals. There should be an awareness campaign about this.

[Gray Fox]

That offside is about the only thing this ref has got right today. He's guessed at everything.

[-james-]

Liverpool have done it again with Diaz. How is every world class winger somehow invisible to everyone else?

[Lewis]

I'll take a late Lukaku critic-answerer here.

[Boydy]

Feel like those "taking a yellow for the team" cynical fouls should be reds. That shit needs stamped out of the game. Fucking hate it.

[Waffdon]

Liverpool have done it again with Diaz. How is every world class winger somehow invisible to everyone else?

He does look a bit good. Not sure if Chalobah is helping that though.

Apparently ‘XG’ is in Liverpool’s favour. How?

[Spoonsky]

I'll take a late Lukaku critic-answerer here.

You almost had it and I think I would've broken my laptop if it went in.

This is a brilliant final.

[Gray Fox]

Mendy winning them another trophy here.

[Spoonsky]

Doesn't feel like this will go to penalties, does it? You could see one of those weird 2-1s with all the goals in ET.

Konate on for Matip, interesting.

[Ben]

Apparently ‘XG’ is in Liverpool’s favour. How?

It's complete bollocks cooked up to satisfy the thirst for STATS in the Football Manager era.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The officials are absolutely determined for this to finish 0-0. Hell bent.

[Waffdon]

Offside by his arm again?

[John Arne]

That's never offside. Silly rule.

[Ben]

Don't get the half an arm shit, but EFL VAR >>> EPL VAR.

Stockley Park is the problem.

[Spoonsky]

Liverpool have been so shit out of the blocks in each period. Need another revival here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Harvey Elliott has jail in his future. Just has rapist energy dripping off him.

[Boydy]

Harvey Elliott has jail in his future. Just has rapist energy dripping off him.

Did he manage to avoid a booking there after sprinting in and pushing someone?

[Gray Fox]

Be very surprised if Chelsea dont nick this in extra time.

Konate is struggling and I don't think brining Elliott on has worked at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yep, because under the first rule of refereeing, if there's a fight like that you book the 1st player from each side to get involved, regardless of what actually happened.

[Spoonsky]

Be very surprised if Chelsea dont nick this in extra time.

Konate is struggling and I don't think brining Elliott on has worked at all.

Yeah, I thought Klopp's subs in the last few games were brilliant but he's gone back to shitting the bed here a bit. Feels like he could have left the starting xi on for a little longer.

[randomlegend]

Mount has always been mentally weak in front of goal, and in other high-leverage moments. It's basically what stops him being the best player in the country, he has everything else.

He's wank.

[-james-]

Scoring is illegal.

[Manc]

Without legs in midfield Liverpool are absoutle wank.

[Spikey M]

He's wank.

He's the new Harry Winks. Give it a couple of seasons and he will scarcely be heard from again.

[Boydy]

They should just suspend the offside rule for the last five minutes of extra time.

[Spoonsky]

This is just unreal. :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Someone will have to pop one in from 25 yards to get one to count here.

[Lewis]

Tuchel's combover has gone. Liverpool set piece winner incoming.

[Boydy]

Salah's done fuck all today. He's not getting 500k a week with performances like this.

[Manc]

Here's hoping Mendy refuses to come off the pitch.

[Spoonsky]

Kepa redemption narrative is ON. Watch him be donned by Caoimhín.

[Waffdon]

Kepa is really good at penalties but this is only ending one way after what happened the other year :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

These chumps Tyler and Neville obviously didn't watch the Super Cup.

[Spoonsky]

We need to at least test Kepa in this last minute.

[Gray Fox]

Ah well. Can't help but feel Chelsea have this now.

Still at least it was a cracking game for a 0-0.

[Waffdon]

Havertz looks absolutely dead

[Spoonsky]

Yep, I've never seen a better game with worse finishing. (Or rather, all the good finishes saved for the moments they'd left themselves offside.)


Salah's done fuck all today. He's not getting 500k a week with performances like this.

He seems to really struggle in finals. Like he feels the need to be the hero.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Once again, how have we ended up kicking second down their end? I need words with Jorginho.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lukaku is hitting the post.

[Ben]

Once again, how have we ended up kicking second down their end? I need words with Jorginho.

Kicking second makes no sense.

[Danny]

Fabinho mugging Kepa off :lol:

[Ben]

Tuchel bringing on Kepa to not get near any penalty :D

[-james-]

Fabinho mugging Kepa off :lol:

Van Dijk's was worse. Knew exactly where he was going, started about three quarters of the way across, and still didn't save it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was so hoping Jorginho missed that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Whoever is behind this kick second, best taker 5th strategy across world football needs to be found and exposed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was Ronaldo wasn't it? He always demanded to go 5th for the glory.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Timo is missing.

[-james-]

Kepa to miss lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kelleher should have stopped that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kepa to miss lol.

:D

This is the outcome we need.

[Ben]

Paper hands. He's going to miss for 11-10 now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Both keepers atrocious in the shootout, see if either of them can save from each other.

[Ben]

:lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kepa :harold:

[-james-]

Omg lol

[Boydy]

:lol:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Stupid twat.

Mind you, I doubt Mendy's would have reached the goal.

[Waffdon]

:D

That was the most predictable thing ever. Fucking Kepa

[Spikey M]

Lol

[Pleb]

That's fucking incredible :D

[Gray Fox]

Fucking INJECT IT.

[Lewis]

That is pretty lol that.

[7om]

What an ending :D

Great couple of hours entertainment.

[SincereTheRebel]

This Kepa is shit. He out here taking goal kicks

[Danny]

So bad :lol:

[Spoonsky]

oh my fucking god :D

[Spoonsky]

Caoimhín you hero. :drool:

[John Arne]

Deserved for the shitty antics.

[Waffdon]

Chelsea have lost about 5 seasons in a row at Wembley

[John Arne]

The smirk from the lino after his miss was pretty special, too.

[Gray Fox]

Giggles

Never in doubt.

[Serj]

Deserved for the shitty antics.

This. Should have gotten a yellow for repeatedly going against the ref's instructions as well.

[Spoonsky]

Deserved for the shitty antics.

100%.

I think Van Dijk's penalty might be my favorite ever.

[7om]

How many teeth does Klopp actually have? His smile is a sight to behold.

[Waffdon]

The only surprise was that it wasn’t Rudiger who wellied it into the upper tier.

That and Alonso playing ridiculously well

[Gray Fox]

I need the Van Dijk staredown of the cunt after, in GIF form ASAP.

[Baz]

:jayjay:

[Spoonsky]

Once again, how have we ended up kicking second down their end? I need words with Jorginho.

I'm pretty sure they did two separate coin tosses and he lost them both.

[Waffdon]

Yeah he lost both. I always thought it was one or the other but guess not

[Spoonsky]

First trophy I saw Liverpool win was this in 2012. Felt so fucking good and this does too. One of the benefits of not being a cup-machine like City I guess.

[Giggles]

Giggles

Never in doubt.

Not what I’d be wanting to see.

[niko_cee]

Kelleher now standing as the 'keeper to have won the most penalty shoot-outs in Liverpool's history seems somewhat at odds with the reality that he seems to be absolutely bobbins at saving them.