Septemball: The window closes. Thank fuck.

[Pepe]

please establish your credentials.

I am stealing this one. I dare any of you to cross me in the next few days.

[randomlegend]

I can assure you that most football fans on reddit don't have a fucking clue.

But the social worker doing transfer market does, right?


. I just find it odd that you've fully adopted someone else's opinion on something you don't know about as the truth. Do you do that with everything, or just football?

This is what you do.

[randomlegend]

This was fun, I look forward to revisitng it at the end of the season.

[John Arne]

I'm not getting involved in this, but what I do understand is that like 95% of transfermrket is updated by voluntary researchers. I was asked to help with Vietnam, which I quickly said 'fuck no' to.

[Spikey M]

I don't know how RL has time for us with all the time he spends tugging himself over R3DD3V1L5 unbiased hot takes on Reddit. I can only assume his patient load takes the hit.

[randomlegend]

I work part time.

[Dquincy]

I work part time.

You're a janitor at a hospital, like that fella on Scrubs? He was a mentalist as well.

[Kikó]

Hooch is crazy.

[Raoul Duke]

Dr Jan Itor

[-james-]

But the social worker doing transfer market does, right?



This is what you do.

Are you going to tag me every time Juventus lose?

Once again, you are spectacularly missing my point. You just seem to be desperate to have a winning opinion.

[randomlegend]

I just think you're full of shit. You swanned around acting superior after appealing to your STATS MATE despite the fact you are clearly happy to refer to stuff without having any clue where it actually comes from (e.g. transmarkt).

You made a spreadsheet of my posts to try and be right. I'm not the desperate one.

[Spikey M]

Maybe you should go full time.

[randomlegend]

Maybe you should go full time.

You'd miss me too much.

[Pepe]

But the social worker doing transfer market does, right?

Typical elites looking down on the working man.

[randomlegend]

I am elite :cool:

[igor_balis]

This is the worst feud since DX Vs spirit squad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is the same feud that RL has had with me a few times. He doesn't seem to be able to deal with other people coming to different conclusions to him vis a vis life's rich tapestry.

[Dquincy]

I just think you're full of shit. You swanned around acting superior after appealing to your STATS MATE despite the fact you are clearly happy to refer to stuff without having any clue where it actually comes from (e.g. transmarkt).

You made a spreadsheet of my posts to try and be right. I'm not the desperate one.

Someone needs to make a poll on who knows more about football teams and the quality of them, the transfer market and rapists. RL (aka The Janitor) or James?

[randomlegend]

This is the same feud that RL has had with me a few times. He doesn't seem to be able to deal with other people coming to different conclusions to him vis a vis life's rich tapestry.

If I post an opinion people don't like I get spammed about it daily for about a month and it doesn't even have to be objectively wrong.

So yeah you're gonna hear about my fabulous e-victories when they come.

[Danny]

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[Shindig]

Man, what a World Cup he's set up for.

[Don]

Surely it'll be relatively easy to find some Arab cunt who buys and restores them to at least a top 4 side but my word is it going to be good to see Barca miss out on CL football.

[phonics]

Seems like we’re going to be playing this Charlie Patino kid in the league cup. Looking forward to seeing him as he’s had a lot of hype about him. The guy who signed Jack Wilshere for us says he’s twice the player Wilshere was at that age. Would love to have a silky baller again and then have his career destroyed by injuries mismanagement and his own personality. Nostalgia. Love it.

Relatedly, the fans kicked off last year when Steve Bould was sacked as u23’s after almost getting them relegated last year and this year they beat Chelsea 6-1 with 10 men for most of the game.

[Baz]

Cool name too.

[Don]

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Seems like such a cutie :wub: hopefully results in one less gammon ruining the prem.

[Dquincy]

Enjoyable watch that.

Would like to see our refs mic'd up.

[randomlegend]

"Should I go and look at it to sell it"

:D

[Lewis]

Imagine that linesman trying to tell Ronaldo he was offside. He wouldn't dare.

[Spikey M]

That accent is a war crime. Talk like you're on Neighbours or fuck off.

[phonics]

I’ve just heard that Burnley haven’t won a home game in 9 months and wondering why I ever have to hear about Sean Dyche being a good manager ever.

[Giggles]

Has Dermot Gallagher not refereed Premier League games before?

[Andy]

I’ve just heard that Burnley haven’t won a home game in 9 months and wondering why I ever have to hear about Sean Dyche being a good manager ever.

Look at their squad, it's awful. How he has kept them up for so long is a miracle.

[Baz]

https://www.rllmukforum.com/uploads/monthly_2021_09/FB_IMG_1632116733069.jpg.56a5b0157f4b2b28b52531907 abffe33.jpg

[randomlegend]

https://youtu.be/vtD0z-MSmGg

[Kikó]

Big fan of miked up refs. Mike Dean would be in his element.

[-james-]

Inter Moengo of Suriname are currently facing CD Olimpia of Honduras in the CONCACAF Champions League round of 16.

https://i.imgur.com/XV6e3qF.png

Starting at the heart of midfield for Moengo is Ronnie Brunswijk, the 59 year old vice president of Suriname, who is wanted by Interpol for drug trafficking offences amongst other things.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a guy.

[Lewis]

r/Suriname reckon he's class.

[Queenslander]

The most husky keeper to play the game surely?


https://fb.watch/8awQCmNE63/

[niko_cee]

Grew up with posters of Kevin Pressman on his wall.

[randomlegend]

Big fan of miked up refs. Mike Dean would be in his element.

https://www.soccerbible.com/media/106150/top.jpg

[igor_balis]

Mic Dean

[Spikey M]

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What a fall from grace that is.

[Dquincy]

Not sure the Arabs will be accepting of trannies.

[Ian]

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What a fall from grace that is.

Not even a "Here we go!" :nono:

[Kikó]

Not sure the Arabs will be accepting of trannies.

This is the joke we wanted.

Also Mic Dean and the reddit joke was A+.

[Gray Fox]

Has HAMES even played since the rumours came about?

[niko_cee]

Whilst there is much to enjoy in this Balague bit (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58643421) about the demise of Barcelona, I find this section particularly triggering:


Let's not mince our words here. Barcelona are skint, potless, brassic, broke.

[Giggles]

Are they really after Brodgers?

[Yevrah]

Whilst there is much to enjoy in this Balague bit (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58643421) about the demise of Barcelona, I find this section particularly triggering:

Because they're not actually skint? I don't really understand how they could be.

[niko_cee]

I think it was the word 'brassic' that did for me.

They probably are skint, relatively speaking. They seem to have at the very least got themselves into a bit of a financial pickle through staggering mismanagement.

[randomlegend]

They really, really are.

[niko_cee]

Lamptey back in the Brighton team. :cool:

[Giggles]

Is that David Prutton former Nottingham Forest David Prutton?

[Kikó]

Martial has literally been pushed to the sidelines. Literally.

[Kikó]

Is that David Prutton former Nottingham Forest David Prutton?

Yep.

[Lewis]

This United team is still better in every position than West Ham, but what are they trying to do? They look like they've never met each other, so without Fernandes and the other best players they're just going to toil away like shit.

[Waffdon]

Sancho looks a great signing. Definitely solved the issue down the right

[Kikó]

He's got the between the lines thing on toast.

[Don]

Listen, we know he's no doubt a world class playmaker once you strip away the flakey BLM exterior and will come into his own against the low blocks, reddit said so, I just think it's unfortunate he's playing for a side so shit no opposition will bother employing a low block.

Klopp beating that Norwich side with the shite he put out and you have this guy struggling against a dire West Ham side with an XI worth £784m according to a German social worker.

[Lewis]

This is the best United squad in ten years, and he has no idea what to do with it. You shudder to think what he would produce with some of the squads 'LvG' had to work with.

[Dquincy]

I bet Utd still win it 2-1.

[Ian]

This United team is still better in every position than West Ham, but what are they trying to do? They look like they've never met each other, so without Fernandes and the other best players they're just going to toil away like shit.

It's just players doing stuff. So transparently zero plan.

[Kikó]

27 attempts. Not bad considering we started Martial.

[Ian]

That game was just as annoying as the last however many dozen times I've seen that exact performance.

[randomlegend]

Yeah that was awful :D

[Kikó]

At the risk of repeating myself, martial is fucking shit and has been for a while. Why he's getting minutes is beyond me.

[Lewis]

He's never ever getting sacked as well. Fernandes and Ronaldo will coast them to fourth without ever really challenging, buy a midfielder in the summer, and then do it again next year because he hasn't got it in him to alienate half the squad.

[Bam]

Ye old United fans getting pissed that they got beat by the little Hammers second string. Go cry With Rio.

[Spikey M]

You're right Bam, they should be delighted with the situation.

[Kikó]

We've been beaten by worse teams in the last month so don't flatter yourself.

[Offshore Toon]

How many fans on here are blind to Ole being shit? It seems to be a big problem irl when I chat to people.

[Bam]

Yes they should.

[Bam]

We've been worse by worse teams in the last month so don't flatter yourself.

What do you mean? You've been worse by worse teams???

[randomlegend]

How many fans on here are blind to Ole being shit? It seems to be a big problem irl when I chat to people.

I think he's done well with building this squad - what he's put together is streets ahead of anything Moyes, LvG or Mourinho managed - and was/am prepared to give him this season to see what he can do with.

But I suspect we'll ultimately need a better manager to get the potential out of the team.

[Bam]

Ole is like having Pulis in charge of United. Unreal how he got that job.

[Offshore Toon]

It's just such a waste of time. Man Utd's first team shouldn't be used as a coach academy for remedial Norwegians.

[Don]

I think he's done well with building this squad - what he's put together is streets ahead of anything Moyes, LvG or Mourinho managed - and was/am prepared to give him this season to see what he can do with.

But I suspect we'll ultimately need a better manager to get the potential out of the team.

Has he had any significant role in building the squad?

[Shindig]

It's even more unreal when you consider he smashed the fuck out of it as a caretaker. As soon as he starts taking the bins out, reality strikes.

[randomlegend]

Has he had any significant role in building the squad?

Obviously.

[Bam]

Obviously.

How? I would bet there is someone in charge of recruitment and its not him.

[Lewis]

He has signed good players, but Mourinho wasn't allowed Harry Maguire for fifty million, 'LvG' had a full re-build on his hands, etc., so he has hardly done anything amazing there.

[randomlegend]

The recruitment clearly changed when Ole came in as manager. He doesn't look like he's going to be a good enough manager, but IDK why people are so absolutely desperate not to credit him with anything at all.

[randomlegend]

He has signed good players, but Mourinho wasn't allowed Harry Maguire for fifty million, 'LvG' had a full re-build on his hands, etc., so he has hardly done anything amazing there.

Ole had a full rebuild on his hands as well to be honest. The squad he inherited was absolutely rammed to the rafters with overpaid shite. Given Mourinho had pissed away £30m each on Bailly and Lindelof and then refused to play them, I can understand why they didn't allow him to spend another £50m on another centre back. It was stupid to extend his contract and then not back him, but nobody is pretending Woodward is competent.

[Cord]

I think you do have to give him credit for stabilising the whole thing and building a squad in what seems like a more methodical way than his predecessors, but he's total shit on match day.

He'd be ripe for booting upstairs to a DoF role, so of course after years of fucking around United have just gone and filled that position.

[Spikey M]

Haven't Man Utd spent more than any other Premier League club over the last 10 years?

Edit: can't find 10 year data, but lol.

https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city

[randomlegend]

Haven't Man Utd spent more than any other Premier League club over the last 10 years?

I think they have the highest net spend but not the highest outlay, but I couldn't be sure.

[randomlegend]

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City, Chelsea, United according to this.

[Spikey M]

Either way, how many REBUILDS do you want? Investment sure as shit isn't the problem.

Leicester seem to lol the traditional Big 6 out of the room every time I look at this kind of thing. Why haven't they had their scouting/recruitment team pillaged?

[randomlegend]

Either way, how many REBUILDS do you want? Investment sure as shit isn't the problem.


The squad building under the previous 3 managers was absolutely appalling. So much money wasted on mediocre players on high wages. And each one basically binned what the previous one had tried to do.

They had no choice but to invest again when Solksjaer came in, the squad was a mess. But it's absolutely in a position now where we should be challenging and if we don't put up a legitimate title fight this season then Ole should go. I don't think we'll actually win the League or CL without a midfielder or two regardless of the manager though.

[Gray Fox]

Well that loss was clearly Donny van de Beeks fault and he should be benched for 3 months.

[randomlegend]

Lingard was the best player on the pitch but was trying too hard to score a 20 yard banger.

[Shindig]

I want a recount of that. We shouldn't be that high up.

[Spikey M]

I want a recount of that. We shouldn't be that high up.

It's because it's Gross rather than Net. I imagine alot of it would look different if it was done with the Net figures.

Chelsea and Spurs wouldn't be where they are either.

[randomlegend]

https://i.imgur.com/lIuLXmG.png

That's what transfermarkt reckons for the last 10 years (bearing in mind the questionable quality of their data). Showing top 20 net spend clubs in England.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at using statistics produced by social workers, bin men and spastics.

[randomlegend]

Hopefully they are at least able to collate data.

[Lewis]

Ole had a full rebuild on his hands as well to be honest. The squad he inherited was absolutely rammed to the rafters with overpaid shite. Given Mourinho had pissed away £30m each on Bailly and Lindelof and then refused to play them, I can understand why they didn't allow him to spend another £50m on another centre back. It was stupid to extend his contract and then not back him, but nobody is pretending Woodward is competent.

The squad in 2013 needed a re-build, but they fucked it and hung David Moyes out to dry, and then 'LvG' had to spread his resources very thinly across a number of positions whilst they let big names lead them up the garden path. Mourinho was the first one to get proper backing in the sense that the club was willing to spend good money on a smaller number of players, but he mis-spent most of it, and all the while the club was useless at cutting their losses on what hadn't worked out.

Ole Gunnar Binman has signed the right players, but he was in a position where he only needed to bring a few good ones in, and the club has also just got better at off-loading people. At the same time, Phil Jones and Juan Mata are still there on new contracts signed under him, and he apparently wants to give Lingard a new one. So yeah, praise his signings; but the club has also got its act together a bit and given him everything he wanted, which is more than previous managers had.

[Don]

Are we seriously saying Ole played a major role in selecting or persuading any of the 14 players he's signed (cost apparently £440m)? This isn't the 90s, man.

He probably still doesn't know the nationality of about half of them like Amad and Pellistri. Donny is the marker that shows he's certainly not in control but then you have Varane, Ronaldo and Sancho which are the result of a bored agent's midnight sexting antics. Did he really know AWB and Maguire well enough and had enough power to get the board to spend £100m on them within a few months of landing his unqualified ass in the job? The days of managers being responsible for signings are long gone.

[randomlegend]

then 'LvG' had to spread his resources very thinly across a number of positions whilst they let big names lead them up the garden path.

I mean I think that's just not true. Van Gaal spent £60m on Di Maria, £30m on Herrera, £16m on Rojo, £32m on Shaw, £15m on Darmian, £30m on Depay, £30m+ on Martial, £25m on Schneiderlin, £15m on Schweinsteiger. £14m on Blind. That's all pre-Neymar; he had plenty of big fees for the time.

[Lewis]

Louis van Gaal missed fourth on goal difference and won the FA Cup with Chris Smalling and Daley Blind at the back, past-it Michael Carrick and Wayne Rooney in midfield, and Anthony Martial as his star forward. He would trainer-coach this squad into challenging.

[randomlegend]

Louis van Gaal missed fourth on goal difference and won the FA Cup with Chris Smalling and Daley Blind at the back, past-it Michael Carrick and Wayne Rooney in midfield, and Anthony Martial as his star forward. He would trainer-coach this squad into challenging.

He bought Schneiderlin, Herrera and Schweinsteiger. If he ended up with Carrick and Rooney in midfield it's his own fault.

[randomlegend]

He also pulled the plug on the deal we had in place to sign Kroos.

[Lewis]

Dire Maria was the only massive fee, and that was working until whatever happened there. The rest of that is exactly what I mean. Morgan Schneiderlin was shit and 'LvG' had probably never heard of him, but he was good for Southampton who were good at signings at the time so what passed for the United transfer board went in for him; Ander Herrera was already in the works before he arrived; and Bastian Schweinsteiger didn't cost that much and was good until his injuries started.

Sixteen million on Marcos Rojo is another good example. Either nobody really good was available, their scouting was bollocks, or because they wouldn't spend forty on a single defender; but they needed one and ended up with him because he sort of knew about him and wanted a left footer. I'm not saying these were good signings, but they were made under very different circumstances.

[Lewis]

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:face:

[Yevrah]

The problem I'd have with OGS were I a Utd fan is the same I have with Southgate being an England fan, in that doesn't seem to be any sort of learning from the mistakes happening. It's one thing to be given a chance above your station and inevitably make mistakes, but inexcusable to keep said job if you're not showing development on it.

The next major tournament should be huge for Southgate, as should this season for OGS, but I think it's almost a case of come what may they'll both be in a job after that.

[Boydy]

Why is everyone wanking on about "low blocks" these days?

Also will it lead to the return of proper wingers and centre forwards smashing in headers? :drool:

[Yevrah]

And that quote epitomises my point...

[Yevrah]

Why is everyone wanking on about "low blocks" these days?

It's such a dumb fucking way of wording what it means.

[Baz]

Is it two banks of four?

[Yevrah]

Parking the Bus I thought, in whatever formation.

[niko_cee]

Defending deep. Presumably it has spawned out of/as antithesis to the modern predilection for 'high lines'.

[Queenslander]

Small time pettiness. :drool:

I couldnt even tell you where in a Australia Western United are based off the top of my head.



South Melbourne FC rejects the plans of Western United FC to use Lakeside Stadium
South Melbourne FC notes the announcement by Western United FC of its intention to use Lakeside Stadium for a select number of games in the 2021/22 A-League Season.

Lakeside Stadium and Albert Park is the home of South Melbourne FC and has been for over sixty years. Our licencing arrangements with Lakeside Stadium and the State Government ensures it will remain this way for decades to come.

South Melbourne FC has a stadium, we have a home and we are proud to call it our own.

Executives at Lakeside Stadium and Melbourne Sports Centres have advised South Melbourne FC that contrary to the announcement made by Western United FC, there is no written or signed agreement in place with Western United FC or the Australian Professional Leagues to allow Western United FC access to Lakeside Stadium for the 2021/22 A-League Season.

South Melbourne considers Western United to be a direct competitor in the Melbourne, Victorian and Australian football market. Their acceptance to the A-League was based largely on the commitment to having a purpose-built football stadium constructed in Melbourne’s west. It is approaching three years since the A-League expansion clubs were announced and construction works have still not commenced. Western United’s use of Lakeside Stadium is not acceptable and South Melbourne FC will vigorously oppose any such plans.

South Melbourne can confirm that it will be exercising all rights to prevent Western United FC from playing A-League matches at Lakeside Stadium.

The club will provide its members, players, parents and supporters with further updates as information is available .

https://www.smfc.com.au/south-melbourne-rejects-the-plans-of-western-united-fc-to-use-lakeside-stadium/

[Kikó]

What an overreaction to United's second team losing in the league cup. Hang the manager!

[Giggles]

I like the way bam is trying to paint the picture their kids beat Ronaldo, Fernandes, and the lads.

[Ian]

Why is everyone wanking on about "low blocks" these days?

Also will it lead to the return of proper wingers and centre forwards smashing in headers? :drool:

No. That would be good and fun and therefore we're not allowed it.


1440795771213737993

:face:

It says a lot that a) he doesn't know we actually have some okay-to-decent crossers if you weren't relying on Martial to get on the end of it and b) that he thinks it's the only way you can get round that.

[niko_cee]

What's the crack with 'Donny' then? Is he just a bit of a piss and wind merchant who looked good in Holland or is he being chronically mismanaged?

[Kikó]

Looks like the former at this point.

[Ian]

I'd say it's largely impossible to know given he only gets a few more starts a season for United than I do. And when he does play he looks out of position to me. He might well be pants, I really don't know how you'd know based on what chances he's had for United. You'd think he should be the backup for Fernandes but Solskjaer would much rather than run him into the ground than actually manage him and tell him he's having a fucking rest more often.

I think when he gets the chance to play further up he looks decent and gets into good positions in which he is never then given the ball. Saw the point made yesterday that he seems to be expecting quicker, give-and-go type passing, does that tally with how Ajax played when he was there? Certainly there were a few last night where he played the ball, immediately made a good run only to look back and see whoever he'd given the ball to had farted about and lumped it sideways.

But I may be looking for that stuff because I would like him to be given a proper chance. I never saw him much at Ajax.

[niko_cee]

That Ajax side have't really kicked on that much. I've no idea what De Ligt is up to, but we all know about Juve's current travails, De Jong is obviously quality but is mired in an even worse situation in Barcelona, Ziyech has never done all that much for Chelsea, Van Der Beek gets about 3 games a season, has anyone actually come out of that side smelling of roses?

[SvN]

The "Donny" crowd are proper retards. He's looked wank every time he's played. He's not owed a position in the first XI, so if he does fuck all when he's given a chance, that's on him. It's like people expect him to be given a 20 game run at the detriment of the team, just so it's "fair".

[Don]

It was a side built on a system. They've all gone off and are playing for clueless managers at an elite level so it was obviously gonna be that a bunch of milkybar kids were going to look completely out of their depth.

[Spikey M]

I was thinking that the other day. I guess it's part of the Flaw with the Ajax way of doing things. You learn how to play for Ajax, rather than actually learning to play. If your role at Ajax fits in perfectly with another team, then great, but these guys do seem to get found out when they move abroad a hell of alot.

[niko_cee]

Maybe the other red flag was that the side was built around the heroic performances of Dusan Tadic, who whilst no mug, had hardly set the world alight at Southampton.

Is David Neres still there? He looked quite good in a more direct, might translate into other leagues sort of way.

[Kikó]

I think it's a bit harsh SvN to completely say it's on him. I have no idea if Donny Hide and Seek is a bad player in training but it can't help if you're only likely to get about 10 minutes every 15 games, not a chance you're going to get any form doing that.

[-james-]

United just have no idea what they want to do. Van de Beek is probably decent, but doesn't suit the rapid counter attacking stuff which is the best thing about United. Neither does Ronaldo really though so yeah.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Reading this piece from/about Clattenburg's book has reminded me how much I fucking love refereeing anecdotes. I recognise the bitter, petty tone of everything so clearly from my cricket umpiring circles.

https://theathletic.com/2829801/2021/09/24/a-referee-accused-me-of-match-fixing-because-i-had-a-nice-car-mark-clattenburgs-guide-to-premier-league-officials/


There was the time Graham Poll reported Clattenburg to the PGMOL for turning up to a game with a man bag. Poll had once been Clattenburg’s hero, someone whose presence left him starstruck. “He said it was not appropriate for a referee,” Clattenburg writes. “But what was appropriate? Did you have to dress like a fucking square? After that, I could not trust him.”


Clattenburg also fell out with Howard Webb after one game at Euro 2012 when the man who refereed the 2010 World Cup final went to a post-match party without letting his colleague know. Clattenburg had spent the night, alone, at his hotel, wondering why Webb had not returned his calls. He didn’t ever forgive Webb for blanking him.

“I did well for him in the Euros as an additional referee. However, when Howard doesn’t need you, he doesn’t speak. He’s very unique in this. Everyone sees Howard as a nice guy, and he is. I would never really criticise him as a person, he’s just someone I won’t engage with in the future because I don’t need Howard Webb, the same as he doesn’t need me. Which is fine.”

[SvN]

That Howard Webb anecdote is top notch :D

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/24/solskjaer-blames-klopp-comments-for-manchester-united-lack

:happycryyyyyyyyy:

[Gray Fox]

Tell me you’re small time, without telling me you’re small time.

[niko_cee]

Thought that might have provoked a response. Poor Ole.

Feels like there should be a game tonight. Brentford v Liverpool was primed for it (both played on Tuesday) and then you could avoid the weird double lunchtime effort they have tomorrow, moving one to the 5.30pm slot.

[Giggles]

He’s probably right and Klopp knows what he’s at, but it is very small time to actually say it.

[niko_cee]

I don't know about since January, but the sort of clamp down on 'ANY CONTACT IS A FOUL!' this season probably doesn't help them. And Rashford has been injured and he won quite a few didn't he?

[randomlegend]

Liverpool fans haven't got a leg to stand on calling out other managers for complaining. Klopp will whinge about literally anything going.

[Giggles]

Liverpool fans haven't got a leg to stand on calling out other managers for complaining. Klopp will whinge about literally anything going.

Knows what he’s doing and how to do it. Solskjaer hasn’t a clue yet.

[randomlegend]

Yeah him complaining about stadiums and the weather was genius mind games.

[Ian]

Regardless, you get away with being a twat more if you're actually good.

[niko_cee]

Not sure anyone's complaining, more laughing at.

Klopp is a first rate whinger though. As is every other manager and football fan going. That's the way it is.

[Waffdon]

Thought that might have provoked a response. Poor Ole.

Feels like there should be a game tonight. Brentford v Liverpool was primed for it (both played on Tuesday) and then you could avoid the weird double lunchtime effort they have tomorrow, moving one to the 5.30pm slot.

That’s a bit odd. Are both on tv? If not, why is Man Utd not on at 3pm?

[Shindig]

Not sure anyone's complaining, more laughing at.

Klopp is a first rate whinger though. As is every other manager and football fan going. That's the way it is.

Plus they're answering the same questions every week. I'd be starting shit for the fun of it.

[Don]

Was moved cause of some gig. Won't be on TV.

[niko_cee]

Coventry even being in the championship rather snuck up on me, let alone them being joint top. Apologies Wullie.

[wullie]

Understandable, this time four years ago we were piddling round league 2. Now it's 5 home wins out of 5 and actual queues of people waiting to get in, never would have thought it

[Reg]

Quite excited for Chelsea v Man City. Chances of Pep doing something mental?

Also quite annoyed we're the Monday night game. But 5 of our next 8 league games are on telly, which is nice while I haven't got a season ticket - and annoying for those who do, with all the 5:30s.

[Waffdon]

Mount being out for Chelsea is a blessing in disguise. He’s been awful since they beat City in the final.

You’d think Werner will finally start. If it’s Ziyech, hand City the win now

[randomlegend]

Mount is absolute dogshit.

[niko_cee]

5 at the back, 3 defensive minded midfielders and Timo Werner? Sounds like it's going to be a cracker.

[-james-]

Calling it five at the back feels a tad misleading.

[niko_cee]

7?

[Waffdon]

Calling it five at the back feels a tad misleading.

Same goals for as Liverpool despite playing with ten men at their ground and a much harder run of fixtures

[Lewis]

Mount is absolute dogshit.

He isn't dogshit, but I'm not sure he should have been first choice for England. It's a bit reminiscent of when we all thought Tom Cleverley was going places.

[John Arne]

Chelsea 0-6 Man City

[Waffdon]

Lukaku and Werner is such a FIFA front 2. Absolutely fuck all technical ability between the two

[niko_cee]

Same goals for as Liverpool despite playing with ten men at their ground and a much harder run of fixtures

Mourinho's Chelsea scored tonnes of goals. Didn't make them an exciting team to watch [not that you have to be or being so is necessarily a good thing]. This lot are in a similar vein (although perhaps not there yet), rugged, organised, physical, will eventually overwhelm most teams by virtue of having much better players/options. Hopefully City gub them but they'll probably fanny about missing chances and then get fucked on a set piece or deflected goal.

Also, apologies to Reece James for drafting him into my fantasy team, since that point he's been sent off, dropped and now injured.

[Waffdon]

Chelsea really shouldn’t bother playing Lukaku against decent teams. Just keep him to hammer the mid table shite

[Lewis]

United have done nothing all half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Calling it five at the back feels a tad misleading.

It very much looks like a back five.

[randomlegend]

Watching the last 20 minutes of the Utd game on my lunch break. Streaming it on my phone on the public hospital wifi. :uhoh:

[Lewis]

It's like a worst of Ole Gunnar Binman compilation up to now.

[Cord]

Yup, another complete toss United performance.

The midfield is a tad rubbish.

[Lewis]

And he's just stood watching it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His knee has gone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sack him.

[randomlegend]

Yeah...Ole Out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck me.

[randomlegend]

:cab:

[Lewis]

He's done that on purpose like when Steven Gerrard wanted Roy Hodgson out.

[Cord]

With Pogba basically playing..wherever and Greenwood having refused to pass the entire game, is this the least width any team has ever played with?

[Waffdon]

A title chase :drool:

Man City/Man Utd/Liverpool all play each other in the next month as well.

[Don]

Imagine thinking there's any way back for the other teams from here :drool:

[niko_cee]

Well, until Liverpool get Sting by The Bees later.

Guess that probably settles a fantasy headache as to whether Ronaldo will be on pens for United.

Good of THE VILLA to turn up against United for the first time in over a decade as well. :cool:

[Dquincy]

All the Man Utd fans thinking Ronny would win them the league. :D

Football's a funny old game with the penalty drama last week. Love it.

[Waffdon]

I just realised Man Utd got a penalty. Fernandes clearly nervous in front of Ronaldo. Completely changed his run up

[Dquincy]

Ole to blame Klopp for the penalty miss.

[Gray Fox]

It was definitely Klopps fault tbh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

All the Man Utd fans thinking Ronny would win them the league. :D

Football's a funny old game with the penalty drama last week. Love it.

Anyone who thought we'd win the league with Ole at the wheel, regardless of who is in the squad, is an idiot.

[niko_cee]

Calling it five at the back feels a tad misleading.

Match stats and the way the game went seem to bear out what I thought.

I definitely reckon 'Big Game Chelsea' are better away from home, where their bus parking is more of a legit tactic.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was up a mountain this morning, came back to find we had lost 1-0 which was a shame, but then saw Man U had lost 1-0 which softened the blow somewhat.

Then I saw Bruno missed pen 90+3. Must be him wanting Ole sacked and get whoever the modern day Carlos Queiroz is until the end of the season.

[Dquincy]

Anyone who thought we'd win the league with Ole at the wheel, regardless of who is in the squad, is an idiot.

Maybe he just needs more time? :sorry:

[Shindig]

I mean, he did get them into a Europa League final and were a kick away from winning it.

[niko_cee]

Exactly. 4 more years! 4 more years!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I mean, he did get them into a Europa League final and were a kick away from winning it.

The team got themselves to a Europa League final in spite of him and his tactics. We also had a very favourable draw with Milan (which he tried to fuck up) being the only tricky match.

And we'd have won the final if he hadn't been playing for penalties as soon as Cavani got the equaliser.

[Spikey M]

Exactly. 4 more years! 4 more years!

Keys to the City.

[Gray Fox]

We're wearing the yellow abomination tonight. Hopefully the players can get over this travesty and score all of the penalties we'll be getting.

[Shindig]

There's some dross at our end of the table. He who draws wins. :moop:

[Waffdon]

Van Dijk looks a bit of a mess

[niko_cee]

This game is pretty wild.

[Gray Fox]

The Jota conundrum continues. He’s the reverse of Firmino through the middle. Offers little in the build up but finishes well.

[Gray Fox]

I said nothing.

[Don]

Van Dijk looks a bit of a mess

Lad, after the Rudiger campaign, you wanna keep quiet on CB evaluations.

[John Arne]

Fab :drool:

[Spoonsky]

100 goals in 151 PL apps is fantastic. What a man.

[Don]

Poor guy, if he drank and raped girls, he'd actually be recognised for his true talent.

Further Fab scenes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

VVD too weak.

[Spoonsky]

Some goofy goals for Brentford today.

[Gray Fox]

Shove your tippy tappy boring football. This is better.

[Spoonsky]

Walk-off home run. :cool:

[niko_cee]

Shove your tippy tappy boring football. This is better.

Needs more defenders, and the shape, well, it's all over the shop.

[niko_cee]

And as I say that, midfielder off, forward on. :cab:/:cool:

[Giggles]

Every week I read Liverpool fans complaining and then check LiveScore and they’ve won 5-0. Haven’t checked this one yet but I’d expect more of the same. What exactly do you want?

[Luke Emia]

I was only thinking the other night this season has started a bit more like the first couple of years of Klopp. Good fun at the minute and in a bizarre way it’s more fun that when we were just winning every week in 19/20 at times that just felt like us grinding our way through. No complaints here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brentford :cool:

[niko_cee]

Had to get the fourth when it was on offer, this could go the other way now, Bournemouth way back when style.

Very much echo Luke's comments about this being back to good old mad Liverpool.

[Gray Fox]

What a game that was. Their keeper to thank to stop it being even more mad.

[Dquincy]

Cracking game. Our defence though. :D

Shame Salah didn't take that opportunity at 3-2, but very entertaining nonetheless.

[Gray Fox]

The move to 4-2-4 originally worked as it was carving them open, the ball just didn’t go in.
Swung back the other way and left the full backs too exposed. No one to close down the cross and 3v1 on Trent at the back post.

[phonics]

I was told they should shut down Arsenal Football Club when they conceded two to Brentford so when does Klopp out begin?

[Shindig]

Brighton going top would just just about crack my sanity. But here we are. :D

[Giggles]

I’m going to guess 4-1 given the moaning wasn’t too severe today.

[Dquincy]

Giggsey's gone mad.

[Don]

Brentford and Brighton in the top end, xG and stats have fucking pissed all over you backwards cunts and it's beautiful.

[Giggles]

Giggsey's gone mad.

You lot are the biggest pouting lot of cunts going. You’ve a once in a lifetime team, fucking enjoy it.

[Dquincy]

:lol: The aggression in that message. :drool:

[Boydy]

I’m going to guess 4-1 given the moaning wasn’t too severe today.

It was 3-3

[Giggles]

:lol: The aggression in that message. :drool:

It’s what I do best. Many heads need wobbled.

[Giggles]

It was 3-3

Oh no, you’ll only win the league by 8 instead of 10. Dig out those razor blades.

[Don]

Giggles knows. These bunch of soppy cunts were saying our team was done and that it wasn't just VVD and our other 6 CBs that led to our poor results :D

[Guybrush]

Some goofy goals for Brentford today.


Needs more defenders, and the shape, well, it's all over the shop.

The only remotely 'negative' posts from Liverpool fans before this:


Every week I read Liverpool fans complaining and then check LiveScore and they’ve won 5-0. Haven’t checked this one yet but I’d expect more of the same. What exactly do you want?

[Giggles]

The only remotely 'negative' posts from Liverpool fans before this:

“every week”

[Kikó]

Klopp must be under pressure after that result.

[phonics]

I know the headlines written to trigger the larger fan base so they click on it but

‘Arsenals struggles offer Spurs preview of their own mediocre future’ - Jonathan Wilson.

Sorry but when outside of two maybe three seasons at a push have Spurs not been mediocre in the last 50 or so years?

[Gray Fox]

I'll always remember them coming 3rd in a two-horse race.

[Manc]

Moyes donning Bielsa. Explain that one Wilson.

[Don]

Bielsa's got 6 senior players tbf, they'll be fine once injuries heal up. If he had anything to do with blowing his transfer budget on that retard, he needs to fuck off back to Argentina immediately because he'll have undone his entire career achievements.

[Spikey M]

I'll always remember them coming 3rd in a two-horse race.

That still grates on me because it's absolute bollocks. Leicester were always in the driving seat. If memory serves they had a 9 point lead when Spurs stepped up to second and Spurs only BOTTLED IT after Leicester were confirmed as Champions.

"3rd in a two-horse race" wouldn't have been the narrative if it had been literally any other club.

[Kikó]

I know the headlines written to trigger the larger fan base so they click on it but

‘Arsenals struggles offer Spurs preview of their own mediocre future’ - Jonathan Wilson.

Sorry but when outside of two maybe three seasons at a push have Spurs not been mediocre in the last 50 or so years?

Jonathan Wilson is absolutely shit TBF.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jonathan Wilson is a very good big picture writer but I'm not sure why he bothers with piddling everyday stuff which is just c&p from the last such article he wrote. To earn a living, I suppose.

[-james-]

Match stats and the way the game went seem to bear out what I thought.

I definitely reckon 'Big Game Chelsea' are better away from home, where their bus parking is more of a legit tactic.

Aye you were right. Didn't work at all today. Lukaku had a proper Mourinho era vibe about him.

[-james-]

He was fairly hopeless against Spurs as well I thought. Southampton, Norwich, Newcastle and Burnley over the next wee while though, that should easily see him into double figures.

[Don]

Those Vardy celebrations are truly the height of the sport.

[Clunge]

Solskjaer's post-match comments were absolutely laughable. Embarrassingly so.

[Don]

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What a melt :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Can't footballers just miss penalties and get on with it? You don't need to apologise to anyone.

[Don]

Mark of a blank CV.

[Lewis]

Strike him from the non-melts list. That leaves Ronaldo, Cavani, Matic, McTominay, and I bet Fred is sufficiently religious to be secretly homophobic. Shit Dressing Room. No Characters.

[Yevrah]

Solskjaer's post-match comments were absolutely laughable. Embarrassingly so.

What did he say?

[Spikey M]

"Wah wah wah, it's Liverpools fault we don't get 12 penalties a match any more"

[Yevrah]

Oh dear.

[niko_cee]

The only remotely 'negative' posts from Liverpool fans before this:

I'll try to remember to add some safety winks next time.

[Clunge]

What did he say?
He said Hause's goal was off-side (very marginal, lack of consistency re Leics game last week, etc) and that Martinez's pre-penalty antics were poor form. I mean, Utd have for decades been the kings of shithouse tactics, felt somewhat rich.

[Shindig]

Yeah, you can't really whinge about a keeper trying to distract the penalty taker. That's every penalty ever.

[Lewis]

It's telling that he never actually reflects on what he's seen. Maybe he does behind the scenes, but every post-defeat interview is some shit about bad luck or 'not taking our chances'. If [The] Villa had had their goal ruled out, and the penalty goes in, would he have been happy with that performance?

[Dquincy]

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What a melt :D

What an age we live in to feel he needs to do this.

[Manc]

Wasn't he in absoutle bits post Europa League final? #leader

[Spikey M]

Paeder.

[Waffdon]

Hardly a leader anyway when all he’s won in his career is the Portuguese Carling Cup.

[Lewis]

Ledley King on the telly disproving black don't crack all by himself. He looks like that mong Howard Stern used to exploit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tottenham look fucking horrendous.

[niko_cee]

Arsenal putting Chelsea's 'masterclass' against these mugs into some perspective here.

[Gray Fox]

Is this Spurs coming 3rd in a two-team game?