Lockdown Werewolf 2

[SvN]

Ok, I'll probably regret this, but I'm going to swap.

Changed vote from thommo to 7om

That's 5-5 now.

[Pepe]

Care to share some reasoning? Wanting the double lynch?

[SvN]

7om is definitely noone. Thommo is at least active, and I have no confidence has actually a wolf, unless Spikey is being coy.

[Manc]

If 7om is indeed a nobody, then Pleb has brought the game into disrepute imo.

[Baz]

He's a doc.

[Manc]

What makes you so certain?

[Spikey M]

Pleb has been dropping hints to help the Wolves the whole way through and when this is over / I am killed I will be HOLDING HIM TO ACCOUNT!

[Manc]

I've just realised Baz has voted for 7om. I give up.

[Baz]

I've just realised Baz has voted for 7om. I give up.
He's not playing.

[Manc]

So in your mind it makes more sense to kill an inactive doctor than a potential wolf?

[SvN]

Where's this crap about 7om being a doctor coming from?

[Spikey M]

He isn't a doctor

[SvN]

Thommo could end up being the hunter or something. I don't think he's a wolf, and I'd rather get rid of a useless than someone who's contributing.

[Manc]

Jimmy is worth another look tommorrow. Nominated thommo, voted for 7om, all the while maintaining a hard on for mugbull.

[niko_cee]

So, are we looking at a double here? Not usually in the town's best interests, but I'm happy to go with it. My preference is Thommo, but 7om is a looming pest with his active inactivity.

[Pleb]

The village has lynched...

thommo and 7om...

...

...7om is a villager

...thommo however...

...

...is a SEER

[Pleb]

The Seers are dead. There were two of them.

[Browning]

A seer who was 0-2 on wolf kills.... fucking hell.

[Spikey M]

If he's a seer, with that voting track record, those fuckers are worse than the wolves

[Boydy]

Ffs. Did he ever give any hint of that at all?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well that throws a bit of a spanner in the works.

[Boydy]

Is Spikey a wolf who was willing to sacrifice two of his own then?

:sherlock:

[Manc]

Ffs. Did he ever give any hint of that at all?

He did say it would be a big mistake.

[Pleb]

The wolves have killed...

...a hunter.

[Manc]

:happycry:

[Spikey M]

Ffs. Did he ever give any hint of that at all?

What happened the last 3 times the wolves tried to kill someone?

[Spikey M]

The wolves have killed...

...a hunter.

You might need to tell us who fella.

[Browning]

I don't know about either of the guys up here with me, one being inactive, and mokkers being mokkers, but I'm pretty certain we're missing an obvious wolf in niko off this list. In the interests of self-preservation, I'll go for the inactive.

thommo - mugbull - 7om

This is the closest I can see to a hint in his posts.... for what it's worth. He seemed to be in on Niko, then off again, and then this post...

[thommo]

:moop:

[Spikey M]

Bye Neeks.

[Boydy]

What happened the last 3 times the wolves tried to kill someone?

Yeah, I assumed that was you they tried to kill.

[Pleb]

The hunter is revealed as...

Jimmy Floyd...

...he's taking down Manc with him...

...

...he's a villager

It's daytime.

[Don]

https://i.gifer.com/FV9r.gif

[Spikey M]

Yeah, I assumed that was you they tried to kill.

Yep. On turn 4 they've figured it out apparently. :happycry:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

dots.

[Pleb]

There was only one hunter by the way.

The doctors are still in play.

[Browning]

But... I was just about to return to my gimmick after being wrong about Thommo :(

I nominate Niko_Cee (first nomination)

Because see above.

[Spikey M]

I nominate Niko (second nomination)

[Spikey M]

There was only one hunter by the way.

The doctors are still in play.

And some other seers I presume?

[Boydy]

And some other seers I presume?
He said there only were two.

[Manc]

Fucking hell, Jim. :D

[Pleb]

And some other seers I presume?


The Seers are dead. There were two of them.

:sherlock:

[Spikey M]

Oh. :moop:

[Boydy]

Oh. :moop:
Looks like you can't pretend to be one any more.

[Spikey M]

If you're the last seer you shout everything you know at the top of your lungs to save yourself. If you check out, the Dr's will have your back.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/67258367/come-on-mate.jpg

[Spikey M]

Looks like you can't pretend to be one any more.

You lot assumed. I bagged the 2 I was sure of and made myself triple clear that it was guess work for any other nominations.

I am sure the seers had a look at me though and no fingers have been pointed... until now. :sherlock:

[Baz]

What the fuck is a Hunter?

[Browning]

The Hunter kills someone when they die. So ideally a wolf, but in this case.... not.

If Jimmy had killed me, I would have had to retire. The gimmick could not recover from that.

[Boydy]

When they get killed they get to choose someone to take with them.

[Boydy]

10 left and probably, what, 3 wolves?

:uhoh:

[niko_cee]

Ok, so, right, I'll admit this doesn't look great. But can we not just agree that Thommo was an absolutely terrible seer and move on? You can't believe a word of it.

Feels like this is going to be an uphill struggle, but let's take a look at his back catalogue of hits:


Merse was killed first night last time around, before returning to the thread to cast votes like nothing had happened. :D

Meh.


Byron’s dead so I don’t expect him to pipe up anytime soon.

He misses his mate already.


Don - Panda Bear - mokbull

Really not confident on any of these 3, but I'm going for Panda as the most inactive/useless of the 3.

First villager killed.


I'm not suspicious of Jimmy for that - the first round of voting is always a bit of a crapshoot.

Oh, look, he investigated Jimmy on night 1, makes sense, a good choice.


The opening post from SvN is a little tryhard, but I don't think someone who has played this as much as he has would be agreeing to a pretty random wolf kill on the 2nd night.

I'm more suspicious of those who pop in to make accusations and nominations, and leave it that so they seem active enough to be participating, so that's leading me to be a bit wary of guys like Manc and niko.

What's the cut off, 1pm for nominations?

No investigations at this point as he's putting me in with a known non-wolf.


You are obsessed with offing mahow. Interesting.

He's not keen to kill a wolf.


Giggles :D

Now he's bantering with Taz, another fucking wolf.


The Merse definitely seems the most suspicious out of those up for voting. His random vote for Taz was very strange, just as bad as not voting at all.

And now nominating Jimmy for this phase, off of him putting up Taz who he then voted for? It makes no sense and it could be a wolf hunting for an opportunistic kill on a big name on the board.

Mahow - SvN - The Merse - 7om

wtf is this?


Amazing. I'd expect nothing less from a Pleb-ran operation. :D

First indication maybe he's been getting bum intel off the gamesmaster, it can happen you know.


Fair play Spikey. He didn't seem suspicious at all to me but that's a great start.

Why would he, you're only the fucking seer?!?


Did Boydy announce who they tried to kill last time, or is that kept secret?

Edit: Never mind, I'm an idiot, I realise it'd reveal who is a certain villager.

He doesn;t even understand the game.


I nominate niko_cee (second nomination).

I've been suspicious of niko from early on, what with his sporadic posting and scattergun accusations, nomination and votes. SvN's post makes it a little clearer and we definitely should be looking along those lines. Lofty is also on my radar.

Ph look, is this where he's investigated me?


Good point about Baz, but from my (limited) experience with these games, that tends to be the norm for him. I mean, he pretended to be a seer last time to get mahow lynched, and wasn't even a wolf that time. :D

If he has he's trying to keep me onside, how cute.


Don - niko_cee - Jimmy Floyd

Sticking to my nomination. Neither Taz or Jimmy seem overly suspicious right now, and niko just has that air of someone toeing the line between interaction and staying out of sight.

Still votes for me though.


Fucking hell. :D

After wiping out the seer on night 1, this has been a car crash for the wolves.

Something he is all to familiar with.


I was pretty suspicious of niko earlier, but the fact he voted for both mahow and Taz, whilst not being 100% proof of innocence, has definitely cooled my suspicions somewhat.

I'd say mokbull seems more suspicious than Lofty, but he has already been seconded for today's vote. That's probably where my vote will lie later.

Cooled his fucking suspicions? But he's investigated me and knows I'm a wolf right? Wrong. He's just stabbing in the dark.


Missed the vote last night as I genuinely didn't think anyone was overly wolfy on the list. As it turns out, we've chucked out two villagers so I feel vilified on that front.

Nominating me for what, exactly? Jimmy, I think you're hunting the wrong guy when we have a number of suspicions still hanging from previous days. niko, I've been suspicious of you from the start, your voting pattern saved you somewhat, but an eagerness to jump on and make a second nomination keeps you right in my sights.

I nominate niko_cee (first nomination).

Still banging the drum though, even though not so suspicious.


Don't do it chaps. Big mistake.

Now he's worried, but he doesn't want to blow his load, he can still survive so he can't be too obvious about it.


I don't know about either of the guys up here with me, one being inactive, and mokkers being mokkers, but I'm pretty certain we're missing an obvious wolf in niko off this list. In the interests of self-preservation, I'll go for the inactive.

thommo - mugbull - 7om

And here's the one. Ok, so this looks bad, but you're not looking at it thorugh enough Ds. He had to try to imply he was the seer so the village would pick up on it, but he couldn't just go and bang a wolf name down (not least because he was so bad at his job that he didn't have one) - so he goes for me. I've had enough aspersions cast in my direction, it's a plausible pick, but the wolves won't think so becaus ethey know I'm not one of them, he wanted to buy himself more time to carry out his [incompetent] work.


Pretty certain someone is a wolf who is not up for voting, you can do better than that Pepe.

Is this just stating the obvious? He thought there were wolves not up for voting? His head has gone.


My voting is admittedly poor, but I genuinely just got it wrong both times unfortunately. It would be pretty dumb as a wolf to consistently vote away from fellow wolves.

He admits it. It's a poor effort.


I don't really know what else can be said - if I post too much now, it's taken as admission of guilt, if I don't post enough, it's taken as I can't be bothered to save myself.

Votes are 6-4 at the moment? Who else needs to vote?

He's chucked the towel in. At this point why doesn't he go nuclear and say I'm the seer save me and get niko tomorrow. He doesn't do it, because he knows it's a lie, and he'd only buy himself one more night to probably try to reinvestigate Jimmy's corpse.


:moop:

fin

[niko_cee]

Also, I'm taking my spreadsheet home if you kill me.

[Browning]

Whatever happens, that post has won the thread.

[Spikey M]

Oh for fuck sake. I'd rather lose than play this shit without a spreadsheet.

[Offshore Toon]

I'd guess 5 for an equal amount of special roles. I didn't realise there was a hunter, but two doctors to match the seers makes sense.

So we now know SvN is an expert player, but not a seer. Niko looks down and out, but we could double lynch the bastards?

SvN (first nomination).

[Spikey M]

Did anyone know there was a hunter? :D

And double lynching doesn't seem to be our friend. Pair of bastards may they be.

[Offshore Toon]

Just seen this page. That's pretty good from Niko. Let's do SvN in then.

[Spikey M]

We have a seer pointing directly at a player. Cretinous as he may be. Niko needs to be hung, drawn and quartered.

If Thommo is wrong then he goes along side Igor on my real life hitlist.

[Browning]

I don't want to try and engineer a double because it gives the wolves wriggle room to ruin it and save themselves. We can't afford to waste too many (any?) more votes. I'd rather get the known wolf done at this point, and then maybe SvN next if that's the way people want to go....

I'm not sure a wolf group with SvN in it would be dumb enough to waste 3 kills in a row... but it could be a bluff.

[niko_cee]

But one with me in it would yeah?

Fucking liberty.

[Browning]

I'm as surprised as you are, but that appears to be what happened.

Either that or yea.... Thommo has some REAL explaining to do once this is over.

[mugbull]

SvN has made the optimal villager move for like the last 3-4 rounds, I don’t see why he should be on the list

[mugbull]

And i’ve never even heard of a hunter before, lol

[niko_cee]

Double lynch the seer and a villager?

Redefining Optimal Expert Move one vote switch at a time.

[Offshore Toon]

SvN clearly tried blagging he was a seer earlier. Niko, scrutinise his posts.

[mugbull]

Double lynch the seer and a villager?

Redefining Optimal Expert Move one vote switch at a time.

The vote to switch to 7om was the best move though. I don’t think switching 2 hrs 30 before the deadline implies switching in order to double lynch

[The Merse]

Niko dies, but I’d neither be surprised (nor disappointed, for the lols would be magnificent) if he’s a villager and Thommo hadn’t managed to investigate a single wolf over 4 days.

[Boydy]

Let's just lynch everyone. We'll deffo get the wolves that way.

[Pepe]

I will have to read back tomorrow morning, but did we just lose four villagers in one round? That is some going.

Thommo was pointing pretty heavily at niko, wasn't he? Unless we have a better lead (which I doubt), it seems like the obvious choice.

[Baz]

SvN has made the optimal villager move for like the last 3-4 rounds, I don’t see why he should be on the listSounds like a wolf protecting a wolf. Let’s get em both?

I nominate mugbull (first nomination)

[niko_cee]

That's the spirit, don't blindly follow the inane rantings of a deranged malcontent, think for yourself. There are bigger forces at play here.

I nominate mugbull (second nomination).

[SvN]

Last night has blown my mind.

I was 100% sure that Spikey was the last remaining seer, and pretty much all of my gameplay so far was based on that assumption.

He instantly went after Mahow in round 1. He had no real reasoning, but just picked him out and basically called him a wolf. Mahow was lynched, turns out Spikey was right. At this point I suspected he was the seer, and then when the wolves attempted to kill someone who was saved by the Doctors, that told me:


The wolves probably also think he's the seer
So do the doctors, hence the protection choice

This made me more confident about it, which is why I followed him in round 2 when he went for Don (hence the switch from my nomination). He was then right AGAIN, which to me, removed any doubt that he was the seer. I thought it was obvious at this point, especially with the wolves and doctors going after/protecting the same person again (unless there's some real ridiculous coincidences going on).

He picked out thommo yesterday, so I again followed him. Once he said he wasn't at all confident, I decided to switch to 7om (hours before the deadline, might I add) to try and save thommo, rather than force a double lynch. thommo's post about us regretting it made me think there was a slim chance he was a doctor. He didn't put up much of a defence, mind.

So where does that leave us? Somehow Spikey has picked two wolves at a complete guess. That's some going, and I'm still reeling from the revalation. The only other explanation is that it's a ridiculously risky strategy from a wolf to make himself appear 100% squeeky clean, which would be one hell of a gamble.

Thommo, shit as he was, pointed at niko, so it has to be him. I had my own suspcions early on about him due to his early wolf votes in previous rounds, so it's the obvious choice as far as I'm concerned.

[SvN]

SvN clearly tried blagging he was a seer earlier. Niko, scrutinise his posts.

This is bollocks. Look again, I only ever acted after Spikey bluffed knowing what he was doing.

[Spikey M]

I did know what I was doing. Mahow and Don were completely out of sorts.

[SvN]

Absolute bollocks, and you know it.

[Spikey M]

I was right. :cab:

[mugbull]

That's the spirit, don't blindly follow the inane rantings of a deranged malcontent, think for yourself. There are bigger forces at play here.

I nominate mugbull (second nomination).

Tronald :happycry:

[mugbull]

Mahow was obvious as daylight. Taz less so but maybe for those who actually know him he was obvious too

[Spikey M]

Taz struts around as the big I am, :sherlock:ing people left right and centre and making bold proclamations that his spreadsheet will rid the world of wolves. This time he was doing none of that and it was suspicious as fuck.

[Offshore Toon]

SvN's tactics haven't made sense at any point in this game. He has to be next in line. It's far dodgier to try and sway people's votes by claiming to be an "expert player" than Spikey calling people out for not playing as they normally would.

[Boydy]

Another who isn't playing as he normally would: Pepe.

[SvN]

SvN's tactics haven't made sense at any point in this game. He has to be next in line. It's far dodgier to try and sway people's votes by claiming to be an "expert player" than Spikey calling people out for not playing as they normally would.
Are you thick? I've explained in detail my motivations for my gameplay to date.

And the swaying votes that you're referencing are when I was trying to get people to vote for Don.

[Spikey M]

And the swaying votes that you're referencing are when I was trying to get people to vote for Don.


it's a ridiculously risky strategy from a wolf to make himself appear 100% squeeky clean, which would be one hell of a gamble.


:o

[SvN]

:o

I said it's either that, or a lucky coincidence (I don't buy the fact that you "knew" they were wolves at all). I'm prepared to accept it could be two lucky hits.

[Baz]

Clearly one of the other wolves quipped that they should follow SvN’s lead cos he’s a seasoned player and he’s running with it.

[Boydy]

Have nominations closed now?

[Pleb]

niko_cee - mugbull

[Boydy]

niko_cee - mugbull

Have to go with Thommo's accusations since he was revealed as a seer. He might not have looked into Niko and it might just be a guess but it's the best lead we've got to go on.

[SvN]

niko_cee - mugbull


We obviously have to go with thommo's final accusation. Let's hope he wasn't entirely useless.

[mugbull]

niko_cee - mugbull

Now that the seers are gone, one of the doctors might as well come out and tell us who they protected for those 3 rounds. You might as well just save yourself from now on since you are the most valuable player(s).

[Pepe]

niko_cee - mugbull

This one is a done deal.

I will lol if mugbull ends up being a wolf. He has been nominated in so many rounds.

[Browning]

niko_cee - mugbull

As much as that's my favourite defence ever, it's not enough. RIP.

[Offshore Toon]

niko_cee - mugbull

Should probably use the seers at least once in this game.

[Browning]

niko_cee - mugbull

Now that the seers are gone, one of the doctors might as well come out and tell us who they protected for those 3 rounds. You might as well just save yourself from now on since you are the most valuable player(s).

The only person it could possibly be is Spikey. He was straight in on Mahow making him seem like a seer. The wolves wouldn't have gone for anyone else, and if they did, the chances of the Doctor just randomly picking the same person are slim to none. Even if that scenario happened... there'd be no reason for the wolves to go after said random lucky player again and again.

[SvN]

niko_cee - mugbull

Now that the seers are gone, one of the doctors might as well come out and tell us who they protected for those 3 rounds. You might as well just save yourself from now on since you are the most valuable player(s).

Spikey has all but claimed to be a doctor. If he is, then he was probably protecting himself, and the wolves made the same mistake I did in thinking he was the seer.

[SvN]

It's pretty obvious to me that Spikey is probably a doctor, and if not, then a villager. I still can't get my head around the fact that he wasn't the seer. It's got me doubting my credentials as an expert player, as I completely misread it. But at least I wasn't the only one.

[Baz]

niko_cee - mugbull

Done deal anyway. Sticking to my guns.

[Browning]

If we work under the assumption that Spikey is the Doctor, and is protecting himself, he can't die unless we lynch him.... so we should have a path to victory, as long as no idiots fuck it up.

[Pepe]

Agreed. If niko is a wolf then there is no way to lose this, unless Spikey really played us all and turns out to be the final wolf.

[Baz]

It's pretty obvious to me that Spikey is probably a doctor, and if not, then a villager. I still can't get my head around the fact that he wasn't the seer. It's got me doubting my credentials as an expert player, as I completely misread it. But at least I wasn't the only one.


If we work under the assumption that Spikey is the Doctor, and is protecting himself, he can't die unless we lynch him.... so we should have a path to victory, as long as no idiots fuck it up.
Sounds like the wolves are trying to persuade us to keep one of them alive. Browning, SvN and Spikey all wolves? Can there even be that many left at this point?

And honestly it seems unlikely that the only person to produce a spreadsheet is a wolf, doesn’t it? Or is that what he wanted us to think? And said spreadsheet did lead to the lynching of a seer, so maybe niko does indeed have fur and fangs.

That’d be four wolves (if I die tonight you know it’s facts - but equally if I don’t die it’s cos they know people won’t listen to me anyway) and I’ve done some quick maths which suggests there are actually 6 left. I still think mugbull’s one, so that’s 5, and err, dunno. Maybe my maths was wrong and I’ve solved it.

Cue lots of :Ds in the wolf chat cos I’ve named them all. Come at me. :flex:

Please protect me Dr.

[Pepe]

21 players, right? I am assuming five wolves. Two down, hopefully one more today makes it two to go.

It is always the quiet ones.

[Browning]

Exactly the kind of analysis that could see us lose from this winning position.

[mugbull]

Baz up next. Has to be

[Baz]

21 players
2 doctors
2 seers
1 Hunter

Leaves us with 16
8 vs 8

2 wolves (Taz and Mahow) were killed. 6 left.

Right? :arry:

[Browning]

Baz - Lofty - igor_balis - mugbull

Coin flip between Baz and Mugbull. Mugbull because that would be sticking with my gimmick, but last time I did that off a Jimmy nomination he then didn't follow it up with a vote.

Baz was innocent last game when I was the seer, I knew he was innocent, but he constantly posted random shit to get himself suspected by the village. If nothing else, getting rid of him now means we don't waste time doing it later at a more important stage. Plus I'm not a fan of going after the guy who didn't even sign up for no real reason.

Never change.

[niko_cee]

You're making a BIG MISTAKE here people, the magnitude of which you can't imagine.

niko_cee - mugbull

You'll be hearing from my lawyers.

https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2020/11/GettyImages-1229684606.jpg?w=960&h=540&crop=1

[Baz]

When I’m gone, quote this post.

CONFIRMED WOLVES
Browning
mugbull
Spikey M
SvN

[mugbull]

Baz you’ve missed a lot lol

[SvN]

When I’m gone, quote this post.

CONFIRMED WOLVES
Browning
mugbull
Spikey M
SvN

I'm alrleady looking forward it.

[Spikey M]

niko_cee - mugbull

He got fingered by a seer. (Lolol)

[niko_cee]

You want to watch that medication, I'm hearing bad things about repeat exposure.

[The Merse]

niko_cee - mugbull

Seer says, innit.

[Baz]

You want to watch that medication, I'm hearing bad things about repeat exposure.

Before you leave us, who do you suspect of being a wolf?

[niko_cee]

I'm awaiting the results of the mail-in ballots before I'll be taking any further questions.

[niko_cee]

niko_cee - mugbull


:henn0rz:

[Don]

niko_cee - mugbull

Will stick with my hunch.

[Pleb]

:D

[Boydy]

Restore some fucking order in here, Pleb.

[Spikey M]

Boydy - Pleb

[mugbull]

We good to move up the voting deadline at all?

[niko_cee]

Closing the polls early? Sounds like an irregularity to me.

[Pepe]

Mugbull pulling a Tronald move there. Tempted to change my vote now.

[Spikey M]

Do we all pile on for the lols?

[mugbull]

I've only Tronalded after a page of Tronald antics by niko

[Boydy]

What's the count at?

[niko_cee]

It's on a knife edge mate.

[Pleb]

The village has killed...

niko_cee...

...he's probably a villager...

...or a wolf

[Baz]

Cheers for the game, mates. :rotate:

[Pleb]

Whoops :D

Yeah just double checked...

...he's a WOLF

[niko_cee]

:hat:

I take it back Thommo, you weren't a bad seer. I had no idea you were one when I accidentally put you up to die. Oops.

:D

Cheers Pleb.

[Pleb]

By the way the game isn't over...

The wolves have killed Boydy...

...he's a villager

It's daytime.

[Baz]

I'm waiting to see the first nominations before stepping up and seconding someone from my list, cos I don't want it to go to waste.

[Browning]

Well, according to your list, 50% of the remaining players are wolves...

[Boydy]

Aww :(

[SvN]

I'm in favour of getting rid of Baz, just so I don't have to read any more of his posts.

[Pleb]

Just to put everyone out of their misery...

...there's one wolf left

[Browning]

1 wolf left means it's game over, because unless a village idiot helps him out, they can't get Spikey on the ballot....

To that end...

I nominate Baz (first nomination)

[The Merse]

Lovely stuff. I’ll have a look who I fancy in the morn, gotta be plenty to draw on now they’re 3 down.

[Offshore Toon]

Let's kill SvN then mugbell. They've been the wolfiest all game. Get rid.

I nominate SvN (first).

[Pepe]

SvN, mugbull, Baz triple?

[Spikey M]

1 left. :drool:

I have Pepe right, the wolf is within those 3... or, to make it 4, Pepe himself.

Alas, I nominate Baz. (Second Nomination.)

[Spikey M]

Oi Niko, update the spreadsheet mate.

[Offshore Toon]

SvN, mugbull, Baz triple?
If that doesn't work we'll go for you.

[SvN]

Let's kill SvN then mugbell. They've been the wolfiest all game. Get rid.

I nominate SvN (first).
What does this even mean?

[Spikey M]

What does this even mean?

If you suspect a player of being a wolf (they're the bad guys) you can nominate them for lynching during day time. Not much of an expert.

https://media.tenor.com/images/7da276a50be4fc6abbc975728ba0520b/tenor.gif

[SvN]

This is great banter.

Talk of "being dodgy" and "acting wolfy" is genuinely the sign of a proper moron. It's meaningless words.

[Spikey M]

"I am an expert player"

[SvN]

You mean the person who has voted for every wolf so far? Yes, I am, thank you.

[Spikey M]

By riding my slipstream.

[SvN]

I was also the only person highlighting Niko before thommo did with his dying breath. For two rounds I included him on a list of suspects.

All while you were Shipmanning our seer.

[Spikey M]

Let the record show that I have nominated and voted for every wolf so far, as well as being the absolute LEGEND that discovered the first 2 with no Seer powers. See how this man. This boy attempts to take credit for my greatness.

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[Offshore Toon]

SvN must die. #TeamSpikey

[Panda Bear]

pepe's still a cunt tho

[Baz]

Aight.

I nominate SvN (second nomination)

[SvN]

I guess this is what happens when people start to lose interest. It seems noone can be bothered with any real analysis, so you end up with people just following "He's acting wolfy" as justification.

Put me out of my misery.

[mugbull]

This round is obviously Baz. If it turns out he’s been trolling us again and is a villager, then we regroup.

[SvN]

Here's one final attempt at trying to make sense of what's left.

Remaining players

Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


We know Spikey is probably the doctor. Given how much Offshore has been siding with him for most of the game (and leapt to his defence when I implied there was a slim chance he was a wolf), there's a good chance he's the second doctor. I was keeping that to myself, but why bother.

I know I'm a villager, so that leaves the following candidates for the final wolf:


Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


Baz
All over the place. Random accusations with no attempt at justifying them, somehow thinking there are 8 wolves (?!) and that there are 4 left. Probably not him, because it would be overly reckless play. His first post in the thread was:


Mahow is sus.

His behaviour is pretty much the same as last time he played, so I'm going to say he's probably clean.


Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


Browning
Browning is a good player, who has experience of being a wolf, so I don't expect his posts to reveal much. But let's look anyway.

He voted for Mahow to make it 6-4. That doesn't rule out him being a wolf - niko voted for Mahow early, and as I've said before, it's common for wolves to vote for other wolves in early rounds to try and establish some trust.

He didn't make any other relevant posts until he voted for Don. Again, this was an important vote, because it made it 4-3-3 to Don. That's two votes against wolves that are potentially tide-changing.

He voted for Baz the next round. Not much to draw from that, as Lofty and igor (both villagers) ending up being lynched.

His next vote was for thommo, again a significant vote - made it 6-4 in favour of our seer being lynched. What does seem clear here is that Browning always seems to time his votes at pivotal moments. However, the next post is significant, in my opinion.



I don't know about either of the guys up here with me, one being inactive, and mokkers being mokkers, but I'm pretty certain we're missing an obvious wolf in niko off this list. In the interests of self-preservation, I'll go for the inactive.

thommo - mugbull - 7om
This is the closest I can see to a hint in his posts.... for what it's worth. He seemed to be in on Niko, then off again, and then this post...

This was RIGHT after thommo was lynched. He's the first person to bring up niko. He was also the first to them nominate him. I think this rules Browning out as a wolf possibility - if he was a wolf, there'd be no need to be the first person to push towards niko (even though others probably would). The safer play (especially when you've already lost 2 wolves) would be to wait and see if others pick up on it, and then pile in.

I'm satisfied that Browning is clean.


Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


mugbull
Seems to be made of teflon. Been up for a vote 4 times and not been lynched yet. How has that happened?

Similar to Baz, in that he's thrown around plenty of accusations without any real evidence or reasoning. His first post in the thread was odd:


What’s good. Villager this time. Hopefully less stressful than being a wolf was

A weird opener, regardless of whether he's a wolf or a villager. But I think it's just the signs of an inexperienced player - this is only his second game, as far as I know. I don't think the other more experienced wolves would let him post that, and I think he'd be a lot more cagey about what he posted (as he was last game).

His voting doesn't reveal much. Voted for Panda, but did try and move the attention towards Don towards the end of the vote. He voted for Mahow fairly early, and at a critical time (making it 5-2). He nominated and voted for Lofty, with what I think was fairly sound logic. Other votes seem fairly random. I'm 80% sure he's not a wolf.


Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


Pepe
I mentally ruled out Pepe as a possibility very early on because of his pivotal vote for Mahow, making it 6-2 and pretty much condemning him. But unlike muggers, he's a clever player and at this late stage, you can't rule out the possibility that they decided to sacrifice Mahow for Pepe's benefit. The writing was probably on the wall for Mahow at that stage, so it be a fairly good strategy.

Reading through his posts, if he's a wolf, he's playing a blinder. He's gone completely under the radar, hasn't really done anything controversial or posted much of real consequence. That could be due to time zones (as per his own reasoning, more than once).

This post stands out, and I'm not sure what to make of it.


Boydy and Jimmy need to be in the ballot. Throw Taz in there too, while we're at it.

He throws Taz in there for no real reason. There's also this:



Thommo was pointing pretty heavily at niko, wasn't he? Unless we have a better lead (which I doubt), it seems like the obvious choice.

On paper, this should go in his favour, but by this point the connection had already been made, and niko was almost certainly a goner.

There's something that isn't sitting right with me, and I don't think Pepe can be ruled out.


Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


The Merse
Finally, we come to Merse. He's another that has played plenty of times and has experience of being a wolf. He hasn't posted a great deal - only 20 posts in the thread, which is very unusual for him. He's usually quite involved. His first post of significance was:


I second Don (second nomination)

No spreadsheet, nowt else going on, stir the pot.

He also pointlessly voted for Don in the first round when the scores were 0-9-6 (Don on 0). Crap attempt to mask himself as a villager if his votes were ever to come under scrutiny? Possibly - I'd have thought he knew better than that if he was a wolf.

He also voted for Mahow when he was pretty much already condemned. Same tactic as above perhaps? Making an inconsequential vote for a wolf so he looks clean when the spreadsheets come out?

His next vote was for Don, extending the lead from 5-3 to 6-3. Less suspicious than the previous two votes, but doesn't rule him out as a wolf.

Since then he's largely gone off the radar. His only other post was similar to the one I highlighted from Pepe, pointing the finger at niko when everyone else already had (with the added bonus of casting doubt on it):


Niko dies, but I’d neither be surprised (nor disappointed, for the lols would be magnificent) if he’s a villager and Thommo hadn’t managed to investigate a single wolf over 4 days.

The fact that Merse's posting slowed once the wolves were down by 2 is a big red flag for me. His pointless votes for Don and Mahow look like attempts to blend in with villagers while having no real consequence. My money is on Merse being the final wolf, and if not him, probably Pepe.



Baz
Browning
mugbull
Offshore Toon
Pepe
SvN
Spikey M
The Merse


I nominate The Merse (first nomination)

[mugbull]

There were a couple things early on that made me shelve Merse into the clean pile (Downy soft!) but I forget what they were. Gonna go through the thread again to see if they still stand up.

I don't think eliminating Baz because he's playing the same way as before is the right move. His playstyle can be ported easily to different roles because it's low effort insanity

[SvN]

It's more the fact that he doesn't have any clue what he's doing or what's going on.

But there's always the possibility that he's bamboozled me. But you could say the same about any of the candidates, really. You've just got to work with the probabilities.

[Browning]

My nomination for Baz was based on the fact I feel like he's the only player (other than the wolf, if he's not the wolf) who could possibly nominate Spikey which would put our almost certain path to victory in trouble. I'm not convinced that Baz is the final wolf, but equally I'm concerned that his pointless finger pointing is a threat. If there's good evidence against another player, I would be happy to vote for them over Baz... we just need to be careful with what he does. Any more finger pointing at Spikey would need to be met with swift death.

But yes, I do tend to agree he just doesn't have a clue. I wonder what theories he has now he knows that whoever the wolf is, no one else is working with them.

[Pepe]

SvN. :cool:

I shouldn't like it, because you try to incriminate me for no reason whatsoever, but still, commendable effort. Not sure that I would rule out Browning though. His record is basically the same as mine.

[Pepe]

I nominate The Merse (second nomination)

What is the ballot right now?

[Pleb]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

[Pleb]

I can open the voting roughly now or wait?

[Browning]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

I'm happy with all outcomes here, but I'll be most gutted if it is Baz and I didn't listen to my gut and get rid of him. I just find it so weird that the minute I pointed out that the wolves couldn't win because they couldn't kill Spikey, he starts pointing the finger at Spikey immediately, and also at everyone else. It's probably too reckless to be a wolf play, so I don't blame people if they vote elsewhere, but maybe it was the final gambit of a desperate man.

[mugbull]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

Basically the same as Browning. The wolves can't win, and Baz on the last few pages has struck me as the kind of guy who knows he's lost

[Baz]

I promise I’m a villager.

[SvN]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

As above.

[Browning]

Just to confirm, are we having a vote today and another tomorrow, or slowing down for the weekend? I seem to recall doing the latter in previous games, but doesn't feel necessary here, unless the 5 non-voters are not able to vote?

[SvN]

If there are no other votes by 7pm, I'd suggest extending it by 24 hours. Weekends are always tricky.

[Pepe]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

SvN's effort merits it.

[Baz]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

I know I’m a villager.
SvN has made a pretty good defence.
The Merse must die.

[Spikey M]

The Merse - SvN - Baz

SVN is right to point out that Baz always comes across as a wolf, BUT, maybe he is actually a wolf.

[mugbull]

It's 3-3. Are we gonna double lynch again, or are Offy/Merse gonna get a vote in? Merse, you wanna save yourself?

[Baz]

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[Pleb]

Oh shit it's a double lynch.

Merse and Baz are...

...

Villagers

[Baz]

And with his dying breath, Baz the villager whispers his last word into the wind...
”Spastics.”

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baz getting lynched is what I live for.

[Boydy]

I don't know what Baz expects given how he plays.

[mugbull]

This is gonna go all the way, isn’t it

I nominate Pepe

Still trust SvN enough to follow his logic, but he’ll be next

[Pleb]

:D

The wolf hasn't killed yet.

[Spikey M]

Then he forfeits the round, surely? (We did without fucking notice you PLEB) Who hasn't been online? Go go go!

[Browning]

I mean, that much should be obvious. We had 2 non-voters and one of them is dead?

[SvN]

Time zone difference :sherlock:

[Pleb]

I'm ending it.

Pepe was the last wolf

Offshore Toon and Spikey M were doctors

...the Village has won

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol.

[Browning]

Slightly premature, but fair. I was between Offy (for not voting) and Pepe as to who would have missed the kill, and if Offy was the Doctor then Spikey would have talked us away from him.... so yea.

[Spikey M]

That Wolf team has a lot of big names in the dirt.

[Baz]

Cheers Pleb.

[SvN]

Yay?

[niko_cee]

lol

The debrief on this would be pretty funny.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So, I'm sure you're all wondering about the triple doctor block.

We targetted Spikey as we assumed he was the seer (great work btw, Spikes) and he blocked the kill.

The wolves then asked me to ask Pleb if a doctor could protect the same person twice in a row he said no so we requested to take out Spikey again. 5 minutes before the deadline Pleb decided to change his mind and wouldn't allow us to change our kill. The third time the remaining wolves were just annoyed and thought it would be lol for a third block.

I take issue with the doctor role because it can make someone immortal (which is what happen to Spikey) and creates an unbalanced game but had he come straight out and said they can protect themselves we could have worked round that.

Also, Pleb was far too chatty in our NFL Fantasy Discord server.

[niko_cee]

This was my Day 1 prediction in the wolf lair:


Realistically I think Mahow and Taz are going to struggle to survive the game, I'm usually quite active in team spreadsheet and am likely to blow myself up at some point, so early strategy probably has to be to put Pepe into deep cover as our only hope of winning. Until he gets bumped for inactivity early doors.

[SvN]

Yeah, the doctor basically breaks the game. They should not be allowed to protect the same person twice in a row.

[Pleb]

So I fucked up the doctor's role by telling the wolves not to pick a certain who kept protecting himself each and every round, in hindsight I should of allowed it to happen and not told him to stop targeting them so I'm truly sorry for that.


Yeah, the doctor basically breaks the game. They should not be allowed to protect the same person twice in a row.
I should of made that a rule, I'll put it into place next time I ever host.

[Boydy]

Pepe's been pretty quiet in this game for someone who normally likes to sling a lot of mud around in werewolf games.


Another who isn't playing as he normally would: Pepe.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So I fucked up the doctor's role by telling the wolves not to pick a certain who kept protecting himself each and every round, in hindsight I should of allowed it to happen and not told him to stop targeting them so I'm truly sorry for that.
You fucked up by changing your mind about their role and then you told us (me, Browning and Thommo) that Spikey was the doctor.

[Pleb]

The hunter kill though took me by fucking surprise, I was adamant it was either a wolf or Spikey.

[mugbull]

Yeah the optimal tactic is for one of the seers to out himself in round 1 and force the doctors to use their ability on him in return for relaying the seers' intel to the thread every round. With two doctors the wolves would have an insanely difficult time stopping that. I would say 1 doctor is more balanced than 2

[mugbull]

You fucked up by changing your mind about their role and then you told us (me, Browning and Thommo) that Spikey was the doctor.

Hahahahaha

[Browning]

My understanding was they had 2 Doctors, but they only got 1 save between them, so the wolves could have found the other one?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yes.

Still waiting on PMs from Wolves, Seers, Doctors etc.

Also, because of this post I had the seers in my very first target list:

https://i.imgur.com/J47dPhS.png

[mugbull]

Yeah the optimal tactic is for one of the seers to out himself in round 1 and force the doctors to use their ability on him in return for relaying the seers' intel to the thread every round. With two doctors the wolves would have an insanely difficult time stopping that. I would say 1 doctor is more balanced than 2

Obviously 1 doctor is more balanced than 2 mokbull, what a meaningless statement

[niko_cee]

Still, quit enjoyable.

Interesting being on the other side of the knowledge divide. It shits you up at first, but gets quite fun after a while.

I would agree with the sentiment that, to me, it seems there is (was) too much back channel chat between people who shouldn't be in the back channels.

[Pleb]

Yeah the optimal tactic is for one of the seers to out himself in round 1 and force the doctors to use their ability on him in return for relaying the seers' intel to the thread every round. With two doctors the wolves would have an insanely difficult time stopping that. I would say 1 doctor is more balanced than 2
Noted.


You fucked up by changing your mind about their role and then you told us (me, Browning and Thommo) that Spikey was the doctor.

Agreed, that was probably my learning difficulties kicking in (I wanted advice and clarification, in hindsight I shouldn't of asked you guys) and not reading up the rule properly before using it.

[mugbull]

My understanding was they had 2 Doctors, but they only got 1 save between them, so the wolves could have found the other one?

Yeah but with one doc the wolves could eventually kill him and then the seer. With 2 they'd have to find both

[niko_cee]

To show you the level of competence going on behind closed doors, I think that may be the first time I've seen that PM from Mahow. Taz completely doesn't understand how PMs work.

[Pleb]

:D

[Spikey M]

Alright, so, the legacy of Dr Spikey:

Me and Offshore Toon started off with one goal in mind and it wasn't to keep you slags safe. We wanted to kill Mahow. No matter what. It was priority no. 1.

So, on day 1 we asked pleb "can we kill Mahow instead of protecting anyone?" He dithered. He somehow thought it might be ok, then after much consideration, said no. So we protected Jimmy.

24 hours later, me and Offy had decided that we weren't going to take Plebs shit and bombarded him with demands and begs to kill Mahow. He ignored us and called us blood thirsty in thread. :(

From there, we took it to the thread and it somehow landed. :D and then so did Don (I really did suspect him) And from there we protected me every night, much to Plebs dismay.

[SvN]

The main problem is that there were just not enough expert players.

[Browning]

Still, quit enjoyable.

Interesting being on the other side of the knowledge divide. It shits you up at first, but gets quite fun after a while.

I would agree with the sentiment that, to me, it seems there is (was) too much back channel chat between people who shouldn't be in the back channels.

There was, and I did make that point several times that it shouldn't be happening. Pleb will hopefully learn for next time.

I would say though that the messages I received gave and took away from me in the game. I knew Spikey was the Doctor when I shouldn't have, but then the same chat made me more suspicious of Thommo than I probably should have been, and that didn't end well. Nothing in there gave away any of the actual wolves, thankfully.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Noted.



Agreed, that was probably my learning difficulties kicking in (I wanted advice and clarification, in hindsight I shouldn't of asked you guys) and not reading up the rule properly before using it.

Advice and clarification should have happened before hand.

If you had changed your mind you really should have allowed us to change the kill as Spikey was only targetted the second time because you told us we had a free shot at him. Had you told us that he could protect whoever he wanted X amount of times (or then allowed us to change) at the start we'd not have taken the risk.

[Pleb]

The doctors don't kill though Spikey.

[niko_cee]

I asked Pleb to give Spikey an overdose but he never replied.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tell that to Harold Shipman...

[Spikey M]

The doctors don't kill though Spikey.

Mahow died and that's all that matters.

[Spikey M]

Tell that to Harold Shipman...

That was the main point of our argument. :D

[Boydy]

There was, and I did make that point several times that it shouldn't be happening. Pleb will hopefully learn for next time.

I would say though that the messages I received gave and took away from me in the game. I knew Spikey was the Doctor when I shouldn't have, but then the same chat made me more suspicious of Thommo than I probably should have been, and that didn't end well. Nothing in there gave away any of the actual wolves, thankfully.

Wait, what was happening?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also you cunts.

That attempt for you guys to lynch Jimmy (which came a lot closer than I thought) were all my idea. I've had to bite my tongue for so fucking long.

No one was telling me to do it or what to say, that was me playing 99D chess.

[Pleb]

Did no one pick up on the fact that Jimmy was willing to kill himself a couple of rounds ago?

[Browning]

Wait, what was happening?

We have a chat for Fantasy Football with me, Mahow, Pleb and Thommo (plus others who weren't in this game) and Pleb was being too chatty in it. Mahow has basically summed it up, but yea. He made it obvious who the Doctor was being the main crime. Then later on there was a discussion about how he should handle the Doctors protecting the same person twice issue which I tried to stay out of (other than telling him it's not against the rules) which Thommo wasn't part of but when he read it later on he commented "Oh i didn't know that was discussed here too" which set my alarm bells off because I didn't know where else he had discussed it if not in a top secret wolf chat.... but turned out to be wrong. I didn't call him out on it or anything, but it probably influenced my coin flip vote.

[niko_cee]

Isn't it pretty much against the rules for the doctor to ever protect themselves? (https://werewolf-online.fandom.com/wiki/Doctor)

I know this hasn't how it has been played here - the Jimmy gambit in the last game blew my mind somewhat.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think that's how it was in GS' games, they definitely couldn't protect the same person twice in a row though but in Boyd's he allowed it.

I personally think it's too overpowered as they can make anyone they want (themself) immortal from wolf kills in the night and then basically say I'm the doctor in the thread and the town wont come after them.

[Browning]

The flip side of that is, neither will the wolves, which kind of just invalidates the role. That one person being immortal but not actually ever saving anyone is no different to just a random villager surviving until the end. It's the end game where you'd have a problem. What would we have done if it had come down to 1 wolf Vs Spikey?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The flip side of that is, neither will the wolves, which kind of just invalidates the role. That one person being immortal but not actually ever saving anyone is no different to just a random villager surviving until the end. It's the end game where you'd have a problem. What would we have done if it had come down to 1 wolf Vs Spikey?

Spikey would have won as he can't be eaten.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A bit of Googling suggests that in these games either the doctor role shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves or they shouldn't be allowed to protect the same person over consecutive nights.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The flip side of that is, neither will the wolves, which kind of just invalidates the role. That one person being immortal but not actually ever saving anyone is no different to just a random villager surviving until the end. It's the end game where you'd have a problem. What would we have done if it had come down to 1 wolf Vs Spikey?

It isn't though because that random villager could have been eaten in the night or taken out by the town at any point.

Spikey was effectively bullet-proof when Taz was lynched. The odds on the village lynching him from then on would have been so small. Whereas the village could have easily killed you in the next phase if they thought it would have brought them closer to victory.

[Browning]

They could, but if they didn’t someone else was dying in my place. The net result is the same. As I said, it does ruin the end game though.

[Browning]

Although I guess ruling someone out completely does increase the chances of hitting a wolf, so yea, it probably is a bit broken.

[Don]

Was good fun. The main issue beside the doctor fuck-up is dickheads signing up and not being active. Intended inactivity is fine but don't just disappear or, even worse, start saying shit like 'I cba'. Should voting be mandatory? Possibly.

[thommo]

I would have been more brazen as a seer if I hadn't lost my partner as the game literally started. It was just pure luck that I then voted against two wolves going instantly (as I hadn't looked into them), and it turned the suspicions towards me. Didn't know how aggressive to point niko out after that (I'd investigated him on the first night) as he'd voted against both of the wolves and Spikey had lucked into making everyone think he was the seer.

[Pepe]

Wait, I wasn't even allowed to kill? Ffs. :D

Good game. Thanks for hosting Pleb.

[Spikey M]

Also, I fucking knew Pleb was trying to help the Wolves the little bollocks

[niko_cee]

I must have missed the bits where he was trying to help us, rather than actively manipulate the rules of the game against us. We really shouldn't have gone for you [Spikey] that first time, it was obvious you would be protected but we thought it was worth the gamble that the doctors weren't playing or something. Investigating Taz and Mahow also fit perfectly with the sort of thing you'd do as a seer. Talk about a perfect storm of shit.

Seered on the first night? What the fuck? Not sure I'd even posted by that point. Quite pleased to have made a week in those circumstances. Not sure of the widsom of coming out and saying you were less suspicious of me midweek or whenever that was, if we'd off'd you in the night [when I realised you were the seer and I'd inadvertently, and mistakenly on the facts, put you up I was a bit :face:] I reckon I could have wriggled out of that. Less so your comments during the lynching.

[Jimmy Floyd]

When I was the doctor in the previous game I was definitely well overpowered, even though I lost my mate SvN pretty early on. In fact if anything that was an advantage as we didn't have to choose which of us to protect.

[thommo]

Seered on the first night? What the fuck? Not sure I'd even posted by that point. Quite pleased to have made a week in those circumstances. Not sure of the widsom of coming out and saying you were less suspicious of me midweek or whenever that was, if we'd off'd you in the night [when I realised you were the seer and I'd inadvertently, and mistakenly on the facts, put you up I was a bit :face:] I reckon I could have wriggled out of that. Less so your comments during the lynching.

I don't know why I did on the first night, just got a bit lucky. I didn't know how hard to push for you, and when you voted for both wolves it seemed harder to push the fact (especially with Spikey getting two wolves lynched through dumb luck!).

Jimmy, I tried to let on that I knew you were a hunter by copying Scouse's tactic last time and dropping hunter/hunting in a comment directly about you, but I guess you didn't clock on, seeing as you later nominated me. :moop:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nope, didn't clock it. I did however realise from your defence that there was a good chance you were a seer or doctor, hence changing my vote that round.

Had absolutely no clue about anything all game really and with my hunter kill had an absolute potshot at Manc because he seemed a bit shifty. niko was too big a risk to the village as if he was innocent we were going to need his spreadsheeting / general logic.

[The Merse]

Here's one final attempt at trying to make sense of what's...

I nominate The Merse (first nomination)

Gotta say, I loved this post. And totally agree I was due a lynch at the time as my slowing up looked bad. In reality, it was bad timing - I expected to be very free from the shackles of hard work all of this month, but got blindsided when shot kicked off this week and a couple of my team I agreed holiday for but didn’t diarise disappeared on me. Cue a horrendous Weds-Fri - I’ll be totally honest, yesterday I just had to get out of the house with the missus and totally forgot everything else.

Still, I really like the deduction. 😂

[SvN]

I had thommo has a doctor after his defence, but was still 100% sure Spikey was the seer at that point.

Good game overall, shame it seemed to die a bit near the end. I reckon I'd have probably been lynched next after my pick of Merse was wrong.

We need to avoid weekends in future games.

[The Merse]

It's more the fact that he doesn't have any clue what he's doing or what's going on.

But there's always the possibility that he's bamboozled me. But you could say the same about any of the candidates, really. You've just got to work with the probabilities.

As for this. Yeh, I think it’s my last werewolf for the reason of the last couple of games. It follows a trend of my interaction in here in general, as I’ve found it harder to keep up with everything and anything. For context - I have extremely poor short term/working memory - it’s common in those with severe dyslexia like myself. In practice, that means I don’t assimilate and retain detail which I’m using in my immediate work and conversations around it. The likes of forum interactions and these games pretty much fall into that. In days of old I’d work around this with comprehensive notes which through repeated reading would almost ‘shift’ that stuff into my long term memory, still fouling up where I’d managed to post before cross referencing/full assimilating, due to the pace of the game and posting... Even then though, I’d have a well of stuff I’d retained to draw on.

That was all fine when I was in my 20s and not very committed to work and able to keep my laptop at my side all day. I also assimilate and comprehend information I read from the laptop far easier. Since moving into career roles, and particularly since reaching senior management, I find myself not having the energy or ability to keep that up, given I’m doing it for 10 hours a day through work.it’s even further exacerbated by a GF that hates me having the laptop out around her as she finds a 15’ MacBook to distract her from the telly/conversation/whatever. So alas, I’d better just not do it again as on the couple of occasions I took myself into my home office to get on the laptop and began my own spreadsheet, it felt like real toil.

TLDR; yeh, I’m a mess when I can’t employ my working memory devices to negate my struggles with it, and I’ve not the time nor ability these days to do what I need to about it, so adios Werewolf... unless we time a game with me on leave for the duration.

[SvN]

Not sure if you've quoted the wrong post there, but I was on about Baz.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, I fucking knew Pleb was trying to help the Wolves the little bollocks

By saying we can kill you as you can't protect yourself two nights running and then changing his mind at 10pm and not accepting a different name?

I'd hate to see what it would have been like if he was working against us.

[Spikey M]

By saying we can kill you as you can't protect yourself two nights running and then changing his mind at 10pm and not accepting a different name?

I'd hate to see what it would have been like if he was working against us.

By dropping snide little hints and being in a secret group with you all in which he gave you intel.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

By dropping snide little hints and being in a secret group with you all in which he gave you intel.

The snide little hints were in a secret group with me, Browning and Thommo.

One wolf, one villager and one seer.

I'd have preferred it if no snide little hints were given which is why I pointed to it as something he needs to change if he runs another game.

[Spikey M]

He was giving hints to a wolf. Whether it was 1 of them or all of them is irrelevant. He was helping you.

[Baz]

Not sure if you've quoted the wrong post there, but I was on about Baz.And I’ll never change.

[Browning]

I'd have to fact check this, but I'm fairly sure Mahow was dead by the point he outed Spikey. I don't know if Mahow relayed it to the other wolves after dying, but I would hope not. It still shouldn't have happened though. If he does run another game I'll chuck him out of Discord at the first signs of anything going on.

[Baz]

To be fair, using a dedicated Discord server/group chat for the wolves to communicate would be a good idea for future games.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

To be fair, using a dedicated Discord server/group chat for the wolves to communicate would be a good idea for future games.

Pepe ended up making a server on the second day as we realised that the PM system on here is shit.

If you click reply on a PM it will only send a PM back to the original sender and not everyone involved in the PM conversation.

[Spikey M]

Pepe ended up making a server on the second day as we realised that the PM system on here is shit.

If you click reply on a PM it will only send a PM back to the original sender and not everyone involved in the PM conversation.

That was winding me up and there was only offy and pleb involved other than me.