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Spikey M
13-01-2020, 09:27 PM
What he actually said was "No, when I say I am open, I am open, I cannot say that I am open but I’m closed to someone.

"It’s different if you receive an approach and you listen and say yes or no. That’s different." Which is basically Alphabetti Spaghetti being thrown at a wall and people have taken it however they want.

Mellberg
13-01-2020, 10:00 PM
Reina signed on loan due to Heaton injury. Shrewd.

Still desperate for a centre forward though.

Raoul Duke
13-01-2020, 10:12 PM
Utd are signing some no mark Portuguese midfielder for eleven billion dollars.

Lewis
13-01-2020, 10:29 PM
I would like to know what Sporting Lisbon (Saint) have been doing since the summer that they all of a sudden need money. Unless they needed it then but got greedy and played themselves.

Sir Andy Mahowry
13-01-2020, 10:42 PM
It seems that Barcelona have sacked Valverde. Fine, sack the guy who's lost like single digit league games in 3 years but whatever.

However, they've apparently turned down Pochetino for a Xavi/Iniesta ticket. Fucking idiots.

Half right.

Valverde has been sacked and Quique Setien has been brought in on a two and a half year deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51099632

phonics
13-01-2020, 10:44 PM
I would like to know what Sporting Lisbon (Saint) have been doing since the summer that they all of a sudden need money. Unless they needed it then but got greedy and played themselves.

They've been heading in this direction ever since that nutter lost the court case to that Doyen agency and they've not been in the CL since 2017.

Shindig
13-01-2020, 10:46 PM
One nation under Binmen.

phonics
13-01-2020, 10:50 PM
Reina signed on loan due to Heaton injury. Shrewd.

Still desperate for a centre forward though.

There's been noises about Nketiah to your lot which would work for Arsenal, not sure if he's quite ready though.

phonics
13-01-2020, 10:57 PM
Silly season has kicked off for Arsenal fully.

- John Stones in on loan
- Lacazette swap for Thomas Lemar
- Some African billionaire is going to buy the club
- Someone wants to buy Mustafi

niko_cee
13-01-2020, 11:12 PM
What's the deal with the new Barcelona manager anyway? Have they just appointed the Spanish Sam Allardyce?

Jimmy Floyd
13-01-2020, 11:24 PM
What Arsenal really need is some kind of Zambian fruit tycoon to arrive at the Marble Halls in the rusting Mercedes-Benz of destiny.

bruhnaldo
13-01-2020, 11:41 PM
i tried to update OP a little bit but if you guys have suggestions just lmk

phonics
13-01-2020, 11:42 PM
What Arsenal really need is some kind of Zambian fruit tycoon to arrive at the Marble Halls in the rusting Mercedes-Benz of destiny.

Even better. Rwandan mining oligarch so you know he’s on the up and up.

Lofty
14-01-2020, 02:12 PM
The best bit is that click bait Football London site has put up an article where they edit an FM save with said oligarch as the new Arsenal owner and Sugar Daddy turned on then simulated the season, so we know what Mantralux is up to these days.

Bernanke
14-01-2020, 02:40 PM
The best bit is that click bait Football London site has put up an article where they edit an FM save with said oligarch as the new Arsenal owner and Sugar Daddy turned on then simulated the season, so we know what Mantralux is up to these days.

That's absolutely amazing.

"A total of £331m was spent on players like Douglas Costa (£60million), Nikola Milenkovic (£53million), Suso (£52million), Hakim Ziyech (£49million), Lucas Digne (£28.5million), Jerome Boateng (£27.5million), Nicolas Otamendi (£23million), Dani Olmo (£20.5million) and Orel Mangala (£17million)."

"Football Manager 2020 predicts that if Dangate were to complete a takeover of the Gunners, the Nigerian could inject the club with the transfer funds to reshape their squad - and allow Arteta to morph into Arsene Wenger's true successor, fourth place finishes and all!"

John Arne
14-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Ho Chi Minh City FC have snapped up former Celtic hotshot Amido Balde.
Made his debut today and looked pretty sharp.

bruhnaldo
14-01-2020, 03:36 PM
Added.

Ian
14-01-2020, 03:37 PM
I either never knew or had forgot that they'd got a second Balde. You'd think they'd have learned their lesson from Bobo.

Manc
14-01-2020, 04:02 PM
What's the deal with the new Barcelona manager anyway? Have they just appointed the Spanish Sam Allardyce?

His Betis and Las Palmas sides were great to watch. A football purist.

John
14-01-2020, 04:22 PM
I either never knew or had forgot that they'd got a second Balde. You'd think they'd have learned their lesson from Bobo.

He left Celtic four and a half years ago and that's his eleventh club since. :D

Ian
14-01-2020, 04:26 PM
Sounds like a star.

John Arne
14-01-2020, 04:34 PM
Eleventh, and best.

igor_balis
14-01-2020, 06:07 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EagQ-xV4_ho/maxresdefault.jpg

SincereTheRebel
14-01-2020, 06:36 PM
Utd are signing some no mark Portuguese midfielder for eleven billion dollars.

Leave the Portuguese signings to wolves lad

Waffdon
14-01-2020, 06:54 PM
Usmanov is about to bank roll Everton into CL glory.

phonics
15-01-2020, 02:43 PM
Some Brazillian journo with quite a long record of getting these things (Martinelli, Malcom) has said we're signing some bloke called Bruno Guimares.

Spikey M
15-01-2020, 02:50 PM
Why have Brazilian footballers started having shit names? Bruno, Fred, Malcolm. Fuck off lads.

phonics
15-01-2020, 02:51 PM
Bernard being my favourite.

Jimmy Floyd
15-01-2020, 02:52 PM
There needs to be a moratorium on Portuguese speakers coming to England. They're all called some variant of Gelson/Bruno Fernandes/Silva and it has become too confusing.

They are all shite as well, except for the ones with distinctive names.

Ian
15-01-2020, 03:06 PM
Why have Brazilian footballers started having shit names? Bruno, Fred, Malcolm. Fuck off lads.

I'm a big fan of Alan.

Hoping we'll get a Gary at some point, or a Trevor perhaps.

niko_cee
15-01-2020, 03:12 PM
We just sold an Allan back to Brazil after never getting him a work permit.

mugbull
15-01-2020, 03:18 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_(footballer)

Pepe
15-01-2020, 03:25 PM
Allan Dellon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Dellon) was my favorite Brazilian.

Sir Andy Mahowry
15-01-2020, 03:29 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brand%C3%A3o?wprov=sfla1

Boss name though.

Ian
15-01-2020, 03:35 PM
That is excellent.

Sir Andy Mahowry
15-01-2020, 04:41 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulista_%28footballer%2C_born_1979%29?wprov=sfla1

This guy has a cracking real name which he is trying to get away from.

Mike
15-01-2020, 05:19 PM
I’ve dreamed of a ‘Mike’ coming through since they stared putting player name commentary into football games.

The Merse
15-01-2020, 05:40 PM
Alan Patrick was a perennial fifa favourite from Santos the year Neymar was there.


There's been noises about Nketiah to your lot which would work for Arsenal, not sure if he's quite ready though.

I think he’d be ideal for the Villa from what I’ve seen. Wesley isn’t isolated like say Joelinton at Newcastle - he’s just not in the right places with enough quality in front of goal from what I’m seeing. I’ve not seen all that much, mind.

phonics
15-01-2020, 07:26 PM
I’ve dreamed of a ‘Mike’ coming through since they stared putting player name commentary into football games.

‘Enqvist’ is the closest I’ve come so far to something resembling mine. Jo became irrelevant before the transfer to that style.

phonics
15-01-2020, 07:27 PM
Alan Patrick was a perennial fifa favourite from Santos the year Neymar was there.



I think he’d be ideal for the Villa from what I’ve seen. Wesley isn’t isolated like say Joelinton at Newcastle - he’s just not in the right places with enough quality in front of goal from what I’m seeing. I’ve not seen all that much, mind.

He’s already gone to Bristol City so I presume it was just paper talk.

Sir Andy Mahowry
15-01-2020, 07:39 PM
I always had to use Demichelis or Demir.

Although Jason brought my actual surname to FIFA a few years ago.

Shindig
15-01-2020, 07:50 PM
Kitson.

John
15-01-2020, 11:21 PM
I'm a big fan of Alan.

Hoping we'll get a Gary at some point, or a Trevor perhaps.

There was a John Lineker in the UFC for a long time who didn't speak a word of English. That was fun.

Baz
16-01-2020, 07:20 AM
I always had to use Demichelis or Demir.

Although Jason brought my actual surname to FIFA a few years ago.

Our Jase.

niko_cee
16-01-2020, 09:51 AM
What's the deal with this Havertz character who seems to have been doing the ludicrous transfer fee rounds for a couple of windows? I don't think I've ever seen him play and, not wanting to be a slave to performance data or whatever, but 2 goals and 1 assist in the league this season doesn't really sound like 'generational talent' material (when, for the sake of comparison, Sancho has 9 goals and 10 assists in the same period in the same league).

Ian
16-01-2020, 10:01 AM
When they get somebody to talk about Bundesliga on Football Weekly they bang on about him a lot.

17 goals last season is presumably why but as you say, he seems to have done naff all this year.

phonics
16-01-2020, 11:12 AM
What happened to that Jamaican winger that played for the same club and was similarly hyped?

SvN
16-01-2020, 11:41 AM
Leon Bailey? He's at Bayern now, no idea how he's doing.

-james-
16-01-2020, 11:59 AM
Havertz is still a don, he's just playing in a worse team this season after Brandt (:drool:) fucked off to Dortmund and their defence fell apart. He's also on a sulk because he wasn't allowed to leave as well. He'll probably go to Bayern for less than what Leverkusen were previously offered in the imminent future.

Danny
16-01-2020, 12:29 PM
Leon Bailey? He's at Bayern now, no idea how he's doing.

When did that happen? :cab:

Gray Fox
16-01-2020, 12:54 PM
He's at Leverkusen and does well, without properly turning up trees.

randomlegend
16-01-2020, 01:44 PM
Leon Bailey? He's at Bayern now, no idea how he's doing.

He's still at Leverkusen.

SincereTheRebel
16-01-2020, 01:45 PM
He isnt at bayern. You may be thinking of that canadian winger Alphanso Davis that looks just like david alaba they bought this season.

Lofty
16-01-2020, 02:01 PM
More Mantralux fan fiction being peddled over at Football London as they have now simulated Bruno Guimaraes moving to Arsenal. If this generates enough clicks for them I propose we band together to simulate all rumours doing the rounds on one site and raking in the profits.

SvN
16-01-2020, 03:33 PM
Whoops, I was confusing him with Kingsley Coman. I'm such a racist.

John
16-01-2020, 05:24 PM
The Bundesliga seems to he the natural habitat of the unfeasibly quick black winger these days. There must be about twelve of them.

Jimmy Floyd
16-01-2020, 05:43 PM
Nobody bothers to defend there, so for anyone with a bit of pace it's a safe haven. I slightly worry about Sancho for this reason if he goes for big money and is expected to be an instant hit at a big club.

Jimmy Floyd
16-01-2020, 05:50 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51140189

First saw this guy in the African CL about six/seven years ago, lovely player. No idea if he's up to it at this level but I will have to have a soft spot for Villa now.

niko_cee
16-01-2020, 06:59 PM
Inter are paying actual money for Young, albeit not very much.

I love how he is genuinely considered to be a fullback now. And not just in the GR sense.

Kikó
16-01-2020, 07:08 PM
I think Young could still to a job as a winger (and a better job as well). Seems insane we're weakening the squad. Bruno is pretty much done by all accounts.

randomlegend
16-01-2020, 07:12 PM
I think Young could still to a job as a winger (and a better job as well). Seems insane we're weakening the squad. Bruno is pretty much done by all accounts.

Young's crossing is abominable. I wonder who the next in the line of wingers we convert to fullbacks who then lose all ability to cross will be.

Sky sports in Germany reported that Fabrizio Romano (who also works for Sky...) had confirmed the Bruno transfer last night, having been tricked by a fake twitter account.

Kikó
16-01-2020, 07:18 PM
I wouldn't go that far - he's always been a winger and by default, inconsistent. He's still a better winger than full back.

niko_cee
16-01-2020, 08:01 PM
I could really do without United signing someone called Bruno.

Lewis
16-01-2020, 08:04 PM
Nuno Nernandes. He doesn't actually go by 'Bruno' does he?

niko_cee
16-01-2020, 08:10 PM
No, but he will in no time a la 'Virgil'.

Lewis
16-01-2020, 08:25 PM
Thankfully that hasn't really infested United. I remember manc sean telling somebody off for referring to 'Cesc' on the Old Board, so I'd like to put it down to that rather than none of the players deserving any sort of affectionate names.

Kikó
16-01-2020, 08:31 PM
The new Pogba in the same window - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/11909775/boubakary-soumare-manchester-united-and-chelsea-set-to-battle-it-out-for-his-capture

Giggles
16-01-2020, 08:36 PM
The new Pogba in the same window - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/11909775/boubakary-soumare-manchester-united-and-chelsea-set-to-battle-it-out-for-his-capture

Is that a good or bad thing?

Lewis
16-01-2020, 08:37 PM
Whoever wrote that hasn't seen one or both of them play.

Manc
16-01-2020, 08:46 PM
A Pogba-Pogba pivot.

Kikó
16-01-2020, 08:47 PM
The RI account was given a temporary cool off for er.. revealing the fancams are just corporate shills in the business of making money of wind up positions:

1217769860006076418?s=20

Jimmy Floyd
16-01-2020, 08:49 PM
Thankfully that hasn't really infested United. I remember manc sean telling somebody off for referring to 'Cesc' on the Old Board, so I'd like to put it down to that rather than none of the players deserving any sort of affectionate names.

I'm sure Ferguson always used to say 'Ryan', 'Paul' etc. A proper manager would have said Giggs or Mr Giggs.

Lewis
16-01-2020, 09:08 PM
That was to constantly remind them of their child-like subordination. He never used nicknames like some over-familiar pleb/starstruck binman did he.

Baz
16-01-2020, 09:15 PM
He called Beckham ‘a fucken drep.’

Raoul Duke
16-01-2020, 10:51 PM
That was to constantly remind them of their child-like subordination. He never used nicknames like some over-familiar pleb/starstruck binman did he.

I believe he use Chicharito :lewis:

Mellberg
16-01-2020, 11:03 PM
Young's crossing is abominable. I wonder who the next in the line of wingers we convert to fullbacks who then lose all ability to cross will be.

Sky sports in Germany reported that Fabrizio Romano (who also works for Sky...) had confirmed the Bruno transfer last night, having been tricked by a fake twitter account.

Fuck knows what's happened there because his crossing was the best in the league at Villa. Unreal winger.

Lewis
16-01-2020, 11:10 PM
I believe he use Chicharito :lewis:

Did he call him that because he had it on his shirt or did he have it on his shirt because he called him that?

The Merse
17-01-2020, 01:49 AM
Thankfully that hasn't really infested United. I remember manc sean telling somebody off for referring to 'Cesc' on the Old Board, so I'd like to put it down to that rather than none of the players deserving any sort of affectionate names.

Yep, that was me.

randomlegend
17-01-2020, 06:06 AM
Thankfully that hasn't really infested United. I remember manc sean telling somebody off for referring to 'Cesc' on the Old Board, so I'd like to put it down to that rather than none of the players deserving any sort of affectionate names.

Yeah we got Depay out sharpish after he started going with Memphis on his shirt.

I don't mind managers calling players whatever they want, but people who post about football online and refer to players by their first names are 100% child-molesters.


Bobby is so good.

That goal was never not going to be given.

Case and point.

Waffdon
17-01-2020, 08:48 AM
I think out of the two of us, looking the way you do and the fact you track planes for potential transfer signings, I’m not the one having to worry about the Police chapping at my door anytime soon.

SincereTheRebel
17-01-2020, 08:49 AM
Yeah we got Depay out sheepish after he started going with Memphis on his shirt.

I don't mind managers calling players whatever they want, but people who post about football online and refer to players by their first names are 100% child-molesters.





That is the dumbest shit ive ever heard in my life.

Offshore Toon
17-01-2020, 08:58 AM
How you gonna refer to Shola as Ameobi? If the first name is uncommon there's absolutely no issue.

Spikey M
17-01-2020, 09:04 AM
Some players - Jay-Jay Okocha - must be referred to by their full names at all times.

Massive shout out to RL and Waff having a nonce off. If I wasn't 33 I'd be posting that Spiderman pointing meme.

Mazuuurk
17-01-2020, 09:57 AM
Did he call him that because he had it on his shirt or did he have it on his shirt because he called him that?

Probably just didn't know his real name.

Waffdon
17-01-2020, 10:31 AM
Some players - Jay-Jay Okocha - must be referred to by their full names at all times.

Massive shout out to RL and Waff having a nonce off. If I wasn't 33 I'd be posting that Spiderman pointing meme.

I was shagging someone your age for 18 months. I’m the victim of grooming if nothing else. :cool:

Mazuuurk
17-01-2020, 10:53 AM
voluntarily though, right?

Spikey M
17-01-2020, 11:05 AM
It's always the victims that go on to be the perpetrators.

SincereTheRebel
17-01-2020, 11:27 AM
Technically, wouldn't that make him a survivor?

Pepe
17-01-2020, 11:52 AM
voluntarily though, right?

Stop victim blaming.

SincereTheRebel
17-01-2020, 11:56 AM
Ole is disrespect Marcus by giving the armband to blockhead.

niko_cee
17-01-2020, 12:02 PM
Not really. Forwards should never be captains.

Mazuuurk
17-01-2020, 12:03 PM
Yeah it's like no one even showed him the stats

Clunge
17-01-2020, 12:05 PM
Samatta’s on his way, WP permitting. Last striker we signed from Genk was... Benteke, and that went okay.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-01-2020, 12:46 PM
Yeah we got Depay out sharpish after he started going with Memphis on his shirt.

I don't mind managers calling players whatever they want, but people who post about football online and refer to players by their first names are 100% child-molesters.



Case and point.

He was using Memphis on his shirts long before coming to Manchester.

randomlegend
17-01-2020, 12:48 PM
He was using Memphis on his shirts long before coming to Manchester.

You're right, must be why he flopped.

Giggles
17-01-2020, 01:42 PM
I don't mind managers calling players whatever they want, but people who post about football online and refer to players by their first names are 100% child-molesters.


This. Nicknames are nearly as bad too.

Giggles
17-01-2020, 01:43 PM
How you gonna refer to Shola as Ameobi? If the first name is uncommon there's absolutely no issue.

Do you know him though?

Offshore Toon
17-01-2020, 10:16 PM
Do you know him though?
Kinda, I've shouted his name from three feet away and he waved.

Shindig
17-01-2020, 11:10 PM
I once handled his mortgage paperwork.

Spikey M
17-01-2020, 11:49 PM
'Breaking and entering' is not grounds for bragging rights.

Also lol at him needing a mortgage.

Shindig
18-01-2020, 08:39 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1106604/Newcastle-star-Ameobi-embarrassing-police-climbdown-mistakes-messy-house-burglary.html

It was for this place. Second most famous person I've dealt with for work.

SincereTheRebel
18-01-2020, 08:48 AM
Client confidentiality and all that. Im snitching.

Manc
18-01-2020, 10:29 AM
Inter need to rethink their media campaign.

John Arne
19-01-2020, 03:25 PM
Didn't realise the ITK subreddit was back up and running so long before the window opens

Haaland to Utd done deal as of today according to them.



ITK update:

Sancho back on the table
Haaland done (might be loaned back to Salzburg til the summer)
Want Madison but Everton *Leicester not willing to sell till summer
Negotiations going on for Grealish
In for a mystery midfielder from a Championship club which is believed to be Kalvin Phillips.
Contract talks failed with Gomes, he's leaving as it stands



We've had an offer accepted for Saul according to the ITKs



United, Arsenal, Chelsea and the Madrid clubs interested in Lille midfielder Soumare as per Bouhafsi who's very reliable for French clubs. Lille open to selling in January.



Sky sports in Germany reported that Fabrizio Romano (who also works for Sky...) had confirmed the Bruno transfer last night, having been tricked by a fake twitter account.

RL's ITKs, 100% correct, 0% of the time :p

Seriously randomlegend when are Liverpool signing Mbappe?

Smjffy
19-01-2020, 03:29 PM
I read that the reason Man United didn't get Haaland and look likely to walk away from the Sporting chap is because they simply don't have the money. Is this right?

Or the alternative was they don't want to pay the £60M because it'll mean Maddison/Grealish/Sancho cost much more in the summer?

Or the most likely version, they are a little bit skint and don't fully trust OGS so want to see how he fairs for the remainder of the season. Personally, I think he's a goner by time the season ends but it's clear that Man United's problems are deep rooted and unlikely to change with a simple change of manager. They need a full on takeover, I reckon.

Ian
19-01-2020, 04:52 PM
IF we genuinely did decide to pull out the money can't possibly be the reason.

Not an absence of, anyway.

Sir Andy Mahowry
19-01-2020, 05:14 PM
Apparently it's because we didn't want a release clause in his contract (which Dortmund gave him) and his wage demands were also pretty mental.

niko_cee
19-01-2020, 05:25 PM
United clearly aren't skint, you madman.

They're just baulking at having the piss taken quite so overtly.

I did lol the other day when I was reading about Bruno Fernandes that United were unwilling to go to whatever (either €60m or €80m) for a player rated at €45m by Spurs in the summer. Word to the wise, don't take a 'Spurs valuation' at face value.

bruhnaldo
19-01-2020, 05:36 PM
Not skint, perhaps just cheap.

Sir Andy Mahowry
19-01-2020, 05:39 PM
United clearly aren't skint, you madman.

They're just baulking at having the piss taken quite so overtly.

I did lol the other day when I was reading about Bruno Fernandes that United were unwilling to go to whatever (either €60m or €80m) for a player rated at €45m by Spurs in the summer. Word to the wise, don't take a 'Spurs valuation' at face value.

That 45m is apparently the price that Sporting told Spurs it would cost.

Highly doubt it though.

Shindig
20-01-2020, 08:02 PM
Bentaleb's coming to us on loan. I have no idea if this is good for us.

niko_cee
20-01-2020, 08:16 PM
I love that the United hierarchy are getting hauled over the coals for not having a call-back clause in the Sanchez loan deal.

I dunno lads, I reckon if you give 'em a call . . .

Clunge
20-01-2020, 09:22 PM
#SamattaAnnounced :D.

He cited his Aston Villa inspiration as being Gabby too. Get in my son.

Ian
20-01-2020, 09:30 PM
I love that the United hierarchy are getting hauled over the coals for not having a call-back clause in the Sanchez loan deal.

I dunno lads, I reckon if you give 'em a call . . .

By who?

Who on Earth is sitting thinking he'd be the solution to anything?

Jimmy Floyd
20-01-2020, 09:36 PM
You're never a better player than when you're out of the team, so I guess being out on loan makes you Maradona.

niko_cee
20-01-2020, 09:39 PM
I've just heard/seen it expressed as an opinion in a few places and thought it madly amusing.

That said, I've also seen a few stories today about Liverpool fans calling for Mané to be replaced after his 'shocking' performance yesterday, so, yeah.

phonics
20-01-2020, 10:13 PM
You'd think things going well for the first time in 9 months would calm Arsenal Twitter down but everyones frothing at the mouth for signings. When you ask them who and where they'd play it goes quiet.

There's been this undercurrent of 'we need to sign a central defender' seemingly forgetting that we have a 30 million pound one on loan till the summer.

John
21-01-2020, 05:21 AM
You'd think things going well for the first time in 9 months would calm Arsenal Twitter down but everyones frothing at the mouth for signings. When you ask them who and where they'd play it goes quiet.

There's been this undercurrent of 'we need to sign a central defender' seemingly forgetting that we have a 30 million pound one on loan till the summer.

That's a bit like shitting on the people who want gun control in the US for not having a comprehensive policy of their own, or the climate change protesters for not having the formula for a completely clean energy source ready to go. You needn't know how to fix a problem to know one exists.

Arsenal need two, maybe three central defenders so even if Saliba, a teenager who's spent most of the season injured, ends up being Baresi they still do need to sign a centre back.

phonics
21-01-2020, 02:19 PM
1219623871793385474

Absolute genius' over at La Masia.

niko_cee
21-01-2020, 02:32 PM
Loan bids also in for Van Dijk and Mbappe.

Mazuuurk
21-01-2020, 02:41 PM
You'd think things going well for the first time in 9 months would calm Arsenal Twitter down but everyones frothing at the mouth for signings. When you ask them who and where they'd play it goes quiet.

There's been this undercurrent of 'we need to sign a central defender' seemingly forgetting that we have a 30 million pound one on loan till the summer.


"Going well" is also a bit of a stretch I reckon.

"Not going as terribly" is a better way to put it.

phonics
21-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Brighton have signed an Argentine called 'Alexis Mac Allister'

Ian
21-01-2020, 03:47 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mac_Allister

Should have gone for his brother.

Spikey M
21-01-2020, 03:51 PM
THEY FORGOT KEVIN!!!!

sorry.

The Merse
21-01-2020, 08:18 PM
I've actually been following any English reports of the three Mac Allister brothers I've been able to find for the past few years having had them mentioned somewhere or other. Apparently, Alexis is bloody good and has been one of those 'on [Big European Club]'s watch list' players. Kevin sharing his name with the shite Chelsea/Falkirk winger makes me dubious, but again, by all accounts is well rated.

Only due to their dad Carlos being my favourite cult USA 94 player that didn't actually get picked for USA 94, due to him being in the sticker album and sounding Scottish, which as that was a World Cup Scotland failed to make (still by exception back then, ffs), gave me someone to cheer for...

Saw him play just once for Boca (or rather, briefly appeared on TransWorld Sports round up of the Copa Libertadores), mainly followed him in World Soccer reports etc, but he retains a place in my heart and I would often sign him on Fifa/CM as a result. There's a whole raft of similar players from the mid-nineties I hold in an inane, undeserved regard due to highlights on TWS or articles in World Soccer, etc.

randomlegend
22-01-2020, 01:17 PM
United apparently trying to sign Jude Bellingham from Birmingham. I'd imagine he'd go back on loan or something, although perhaps not given our current midfield crisis.

The fees being bandied about sound pretty mental for a 16 year old (£25m+), but people seem to think he's a pretty special talent.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hannibal Mejbri who we signed in the summer finds his way into the first team sooner rather than later, again because of the injury situation. He only turned 17 yesterday but he's already been moved up to the u23s since arriving and continued tearing it up.

Mellberg
22-01-2020, 01:59 PM
Yeah, SSN are carrying that one. 30m isn't it? That's absolutely mental money for Jude Bellingham. He has potential, but since when did that translate to 30m?

Manc
22-01-2020, 02:00 PM
The fee is a nonsense. United will never know value again.

bruhnaldo
22-01-2020, 02:56 PM
Orlando City signed the Peruvian national team goalkeeper the other day so basically we're a huge club if you ask me.

Jimmy Floyd
22-01-2020, 03:16 PM
16 years old? I would argue slapping that price tag on someone of that age is downright immoral.

Pepe
22-01-2020, 03:20 PM
Lol at Chicharito ending in the MLS. What a flop that generation turned out to be.

Ian
22-01-2020, 03:27 PM
I loved him from the moment he kicked the ball in off his own face on his United debut.

Pepe
22-01-2020, 03:35 PM
No better way to exemplify his whole being.

mugbull
22-01-2020, 03:37 PM
Chicha did quite well career-wise. He had 5-6 decent seasons in the top leagues and made over 100 appearances for United

randomlegend
22-01-2020, 03:50 PM
16 years old? I would argue slapping that price tag on someone of that age is downright immoral.

Madrid paid €45m for Vinicius Jr when he was 16.

Jimmy Floyd
22-01-2020, 04:01 PM
Likewise. In fact most of what most clubs do regarding young players is dubious at best.

Baz
22-01-2020, 04:15 PM
Madrid paid €45m for Vinicius Jr when he was 16.

Harvey Elliott cost Liverpool £1.7m :youpi:

niko_cee
22-01-2020, 04:54 PM
Madrid paid €45m for Vinicius Jr when he was 16.

And how's that working out? 3 goals in 30 or something and the fans are already getting restless. Maybe he can go on loan to Sociedad?

They've gone big into young Brazilians in recent seasons (Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo, this Rainier one they've just spaffed £25m on). It's a rubbish model. Wonderkids are, by and large, overrated and once you've spent £80m on them they become a bit of a false economy.

From the little Brazilian football I've seen lately I like the look of that Everton Soares guy and Bruno Henriques (is it)? They're not going to be the next Neymar in all likelihood, but they'll probably be half-decent.

Spikey M
22-01-2020, 04:57 PM
What happened to that Norwegian geezer they signed?

Edit: he's on loan at Sociedad. Lol.

randomlegend
22-01-2020, 05:21 PM
What happened to that Norwegian geezer they signed?

Edit: he's on loan at Sociedad. Lol.

He's been brilliant at Sociedad. He'll succeed at Madrid.

randomlegend
22-01-2020, 05:37 PM
And how's that working out? 3 goals in 30 or something and the fans are already getting restless. Maybe he can go on loan to Sociedad?

They've gone big into young Brazilians in recent seasons (Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo, this Rainier one they've just spaffed £25m on). It's a rubbish model. Wonderkids are, by and large, overrated and once you've spent £80m on them they become a bit of a false economy.

From the little Brazilian football I've seen lately I like the look of that Everton Soares guy and Bruno Henriques (is it)? They're not going to be the next Neymar in all likelihood, but they'll probably be half-decent.

I'm not saying it was a good thing, just the way Jimmy phrased it was like it would be a watershed deal if United did it for Bellingham.

niko_cee
22-01-2020, 06:06 PM
He's been brilliant at Sociedad. He'll succeed at Madrid.

For the sake of idle comparison, he's about the same age as, and doing about as well as Harry Wilson at Bournemouth, so I dunno. Lots of players do well enough on loan without ever being good enough to make the step to the highest level.

mugbull
22-01-2020, 06:07 PM
That’s a very idle comparison

niko_cee
22-01-2020, 06:11 PM
I was trying to think of that young Spanish forward Madrid had (there have obviously been lots) who was super highly rated when they bought him, and then went on to be good on loan somewhere, but has amounted to me not being able to remember his name when he's probably in the prime of his career. I want to say Canos or Canelo but I know it isn't either of those.

niko_cee
22-01-2020, 06:13 PM
Canales.

Also, seeing him on transfermarkt led me to Oscar, still only 28 and wasting his life in China.

Spikey M
22-01-2020, 06:18 PM
And still shagging his sister presumably.

bruhnaldo
22-01-2020, 06:36 PM
I thought that was Neymar

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-01-2020, 07:22 PM
They're all at it.

Lewis
22-01-2020, 07:43 PM
The next Lee Martin.

SincereTheRebel
22-01-2020, 07:54 PM
And still shagging his sister presumably.

Is it raw though?

Spikey M
22-01-2020, 08:02 PM
They have a child birth cap in China so probably not.

randomlegend
22-01-2020, 08:32 PM
EDIT: Wrong thread

Kikó
23-01-2020, 03:38 PM
Rumblings that Joel is stepping in and blocking both Ed and Ole on any potential signing front. The end is nigh.

Jimmy Floyd
23-01-2020, 03:58 PM
The end of what is nigh?

Kikó
23-01-2020, 04:06 PM
The Woodward show imo.

SincereTheRebel
23-01-2020, 04:27 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11915636/manchester-united-loan-offer-for-matias-vecino-rejected-by-inter-milan

lol

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-01-2020, 04:31 PM
Aston Villa have signed a 16 year old striker from Barca.

Louie Barry.

bruhnaldo
23-01-2020, 04:33 PM
If he doesn't pan out he def. has a future as a jazz musician.

Kikó
23-01-2020, 04:45 PM
Rumblings that Joel is stepping in and blocking both Ed and Ole on any potential signing front. The end is nigh.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10805789/man-utd-bruno-fernandes-transfer-2/

Lewis
23-01-2020, 04:48 PM
Where was Joel Glazer when they were offering eighty million quid for Harry Maguire?

SincereTheRebel
23-01-2020, 04:56 PM
Wolves will swoop in with the Portugues connection and get him for £10m.

Kikó
23-01-2020, 05:03 PM
Where was Joel Glazer when they were offering eighty million quid for Harry Maguire?

Well exactly.

Lewis
23-01-2020, 05:09 PM
On a related note, that Carlos Tevez on loan story would be hilarious if it happens.

Mellberg
23-01-2020, 05:58 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11915636/manchester-united-loan-offer-for-matias-vecino-rejected-by-inter-milan

lol

:D

They're taking the piss there. I wouldn't give them another player.

Kikó
23-01-2020, 07:45 PM
On a related note, that Carlos Tevez on loan story would be hilarious if it happens.

It's written by some guy who writes for the Anfield Wrap. It's a proper wind up piece.

Manc
24-01-2020, 12:02 AM
Victor Moses still on the Chelsea books is some going. Who else is lurking?

Jimmy Floyd
24-01-2020, 12:06 AM
Marco van Ginkel is still under contract and hasn't even been out on loan since 2018. They're probably building some kind of Gregor Clegane style freak machine out of his few functioning body parts.

Baba Rahman as well, what a hero. Lucas Piazon now on his seventh loan at the age of 26.

Danny
24-01-2020, 03:12 AM
Not sure what I am shocked by more. Rahman still being a Chelsea player or that he made 15 prem appearances for you.

Shindig
24-01-2020, 07:17 AM
I'm stunned Paizon's still bothering.

Spikey M
24-01-2020, 07:56 AM
Easy money. Why wouldn't he?

Jimmy Floyd
24-01-2020, 01:47 PM
Slimani/Ighalo to United, say Sky. Surely a wind up.

Danny
24-01-2020, 01:49 PM
More chance of them giving Pennant another go on a panel.

Sir Andy Mahowry
24-01-2020, 02:25 PM
Slimani/Ighalo to United, say Sky. Surely a wind up.

5 years too late.

bruhnaldo
24-01-2020, 02:50 PM
If we signed him 5 years ago we'd bemoan his presence on absorbent wages now tbh.

Lewis
24-01-2020, 02:59 PM
He could just start Greenwood every week the fanny.

Giggles
24-01-2020, 08:59 PM
Utd always seem to be buying just for the sake of it.

Lewis
24-01-2020, 09:01 PM
'LvG' would be donning it (relatively speaking) with some academy nobody by now.

Shindig
24-01-2020, 09:09 PM
5 years too late.

Thanks for reminding me we had him on loan.

Lofty
25-01-2020, 04:04 PM
Edu pictured with some spanish CB arriving at a London Airport, previously played for City but has been forever loaned out including most recently to Brazil which isn't the most promising career to date.

The Merse
25-01-2020, 10:54 PM
Edu pictured with some spanish CB arriving at a London Airport, previously played for City but has been forever loaned out including most recently to Brazil which isn't the most promising career to date.

Pablo Mari. Rave reviews in his time in Eredivise, Spanish Segunda and Brazil, but yeh... Not an impressive CV for a 26 year old. Looks done according to the normally reputable sources.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11917325/pablo-mari-flamengo-centre-back-in-london-for-arsenal-medical

SincereTheRebel
26-01-2020, 08:10 AM
What happened to the Brazilian Arsenal defender that Diego Costa used to terrorise?

niko_cee
26-01-2020, 08:44 AM
I think he plays for Valencia now.

Gabriel something? I've definitely seen him tooling about for some champions league fringe side.

Mazuuurk
27-01-2020, 03:48 PM
[...] Paulista. Was a complete nutcase wasn't he. You only get away with that as a defender if you're actually any good and he was shite.

SincereTheRebel
28-01-2020, 10:51 AM
Patrick van Aanholt to PSV for less than £10m sounds like an amazing deal.

phonics
28-01-2020, 10:52 AM
For who? He's shit.

Sir Andy Mahowry
28-01-2020, 06:42 PM
Sander SANDER Berge.

bruhnaldo
28-01-2020, 06:58 PM
I thought they said it was some 16 year old keeper and not Berge?

randomlegend
28-01-2020, 07:21 PM
It wasn't Berge.

Bruno Fernandes FINALLY looks to be going through. It's been a complete clusterfuck by United behind the scenes by all accounts.

Sir Andy Mahowry
28-01-2020, 07:24 PM
Sander Berge or we riot.

Vercetti
28-01-2020, 07:27 PM
I'd lol if Fernandes went to Barcelona after all this.

Well, I wouldn't lol, really. But I'd be slightly amused.

randomlegend
28-01-2020, 07:34 PM
I'd lol if Fernandes went to Barcelona after all this.

Well, I wouldn't lol, really. But I'd be slightly amused.

Was just Sporting trying to put pressure on us to submit an increased offer I think.

We apparently (possibly more than once) verbally agreed a fee they'd accept, then formally submitted a lower offer. Lol. Woodward.

Danny
28-01-2020, 07:39 PM
Other than being a bit an FM legend does anyone know anything about Berge?

Read he was impressive in the group stages but I didn’t catch any of their games.

Jimmy Floyd
28-01-2020, 07:41 PM
I'd never heard of Berge. Are Norway heading for a Belgium-style golden era? I miss the days when Chelsea used to lose European ties at various minor fishing ports in the Arctic Circle.

Smjffy
28-01-2020, 07:48 PM
I'd never heard of Berge. Are Norway heading for a Belgium-style golden era? I miss the days when Chelsea used to lose European ties at various minor fishing ports in the Arctic Circle.

I certainly don't miss the days of Bjornebye, Kvarme, Kippe and Leonardson. Less so Heggem or Riise.

Raoul Duke
28-01-2020, 07:51 PM
Other than being a bit an FM legend does anyone know anything about Berge?

Read he was impressive in the group stages but I didn’t catch any of their games.

He's also good on FIFA Career Mode. Massive lanky fucker.

Lewis
28-01-2020, 08:16 PM
It sounds like it has actually come more towards what United were originally offering structure-wise at least. The add-ons can be a billion each for all they matter.

niko_cee
28-01-2020, 09:16 PM
Presumably the add-ons are sane (like appearance related) rather than needing United to do well to be triggered.

Is it €25m in add-ons? :cab:

Raoul Duke
28-01-2020, 10:08 PM
These add-ons are mostly horseshit - stuff like if he wins the Ballon D'or whilst heading up a midfield of Scott McTominay and Fred. Sure thing.

mugbull
28-01-2020, 11:26 PM
Sander Berge will be great

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 08:31 AM
Presumably the add-ons are sane (like appearance related) rather than needing United to do well to be triggered.

Is it €25m in add-ons? :cab:
It's apparently 10m of easy add-ons (appearances, possibly Utd qualifying for Champions league) and 15m of the silly ones like b'allon dor.

John Arne
29-01-2020, 11:01 AM
When is Haaland joining Man Utd - wasn't he on a plane a few weeks ago?

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 11:51 AM
When is Haaland joining Man Utd - wasn't he on a plane a few weeks ago?

It's pointless trying to work out what's going on with Raiola clients.

The ITKs have been spot-on with the Bruno situation as it goes.

Smjffy
29-01-2020, 11:57 AM
It's apparently 10m of easy add-ons (appearances, possibly Utd qualifying for Champions league) and 15m of the silly ones like b'allon dor.

You've qualified for the Champions League via the league twice in the last six seasons and this season could well be the 7th, no? I'd say that's anything but an easy add on.

Smjffy
29-01-2020, 11:57 AM
It's pointless trying to work out what's going on with Raiola clients.

The ITKs have been spot-on with the Bruno situation as it goes.

The world will see just how good Raiola is when Lingard suddenly rocks up at Barcelona or Madrid in the summer. :D

Spikey M
29-01-2020, 12:36 PM
The ITKs have been spot-on with the Bruno situation as it goes.

What have they been spot on about?

thommo
29-01-2020, 12:46 PM
Steven Bergwijn has moved from PSV to Spurs. £27m seems reasonable considering he's only 22.

Jimmy Floyd
29-01-2020, 12:52 PM
Depends if he's good at football.

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 01:00 PM
What have they been spot on about?

Well everything they said was going on consistently came out in the papers about 3 days later, including the Barcelona stuff, fee, etc.

Spikey M
29-01-2020, 01:02 PM
He's still at Sporting...

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-01-2020, 01:02 PM
He's fast.

Bergwijn that is.

Mazuuurk
29-01-2020, 01:06 PM
Depends if he's good at football.

Are you sure that's very important?

mugbull
29-01-2020, 01:16 PM
It’s unlikely he’s any good. Apparently his touches are heavy even for the Eredivisie

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 01:24 PM
He's still at Sporting...

Romano, Stones and Peach have all said it's done. It's done (failed medical would be the only thing to stop it now).

John Arne
29-01-2020, 02:49 PM
Are they the same ITKs who confirmed Saul was on his way to Man Utd, or the same that confirmed Jude Bellington was a done deal?

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 03:13 PM
None of them confirmed either of those things.

They said we out a bid in for Bellingham (which the papers reported a few days later) and we had a bid accepted for Saul (also came out we were interested in him a few days later but I imagine the bid was nonsense).

You're all hella rattled bout this shit.

Also John Arne don't go repping me telling me to keep up the ITK stuff it's good fun if you're then gonna be a little bitch about it

bruhnaldo
29-01-2020, 03:16 PM
Is rattled like British slang for skeptical cause then i'm rattled as fuck

Bam
29-01-2020, 03:23 PM
No, irritated.

Smjffy
29-01-2020, 03:24 PM
If Fernandes doesn't happen now then one can only imagine it'll go from flares to WMD's.

Poor Ed.

bruhnaldo
29-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Perhaps we can buy one off the Juventus ultras in a swap for Pogba.

John Arne
29-01-2020, 03:56 PM
None of them confirmed either of those things.

They said we out a bid in for Bellingham (which the papers reported a few days later) and we had a bid accepted for Saul (also came out we were interested in him a few days later but I imagine the bid was nonsense).

You're all hella rattled bout this shit.

Also John Arne don't go repping me telling me to keep up the ITK stuff it's good fun if you're then gonna be a little bitch about it

I'm just trying to work out which ITKs to trust. If you're going to post "ITK" shit, prepared to take shit for it - chill the fuck out, it's all good natured.

Danny
29-01-2020, 04:23 PM
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/manchester-united-agree-deal-to-sign-bruno-fernandes


Manchester United is delighted to announce it has reached agreement with Sporting Clube de Portugal for the transfer of Bruno Fernandes.
The deal is subject to a medical and the agreement of personal terms.

A further announcement will be made in due course.

bruhnaldo
29-01-2020, 04:26 PM
How nice.

niko_cee
29-01-2020, 05:09 PM
Barca bid £85m for Richarlison?

:saywhat:

And Everton say no?

:eek:

Danny
29-01-2020, 05:14 PM
How nice.

Sporting published the numbers too.

£46.5m initial fee
£4.25m after a number of appearances
£4.25m for CL qualification
£12.7m for individual objectives
10% of profit from future sale

That’s... decent. If the reported 70k before bonuses wage is to be believed Ed has actually done something good.

niko_cee that has to be bollocks.

Lewis
29-01-2020, 05:15 PM
Ed Goodgood.

bruhnaldo
29-01-2020, 05:15 PM
I'd like to be excited but the immense expectation for him to show up and hit the ground running in order to save our season will probably fuck the entire thing up. The media will be calling him a "flop" by April and he'll be at Inter by January/June 2020.

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 05:15 PM
I'm just trying to work out which ITKs to trust. If you're going to post "ITK" shit, prepared to take shit for it - chill the fuck out, it's all good natured.

You idiots post about it whether I do or not.

SvN
29-01-2020, 05:20 PM
RL with another blinder. Move aside Kiko, there's a new ITK Sheriff in town.

niko_cee
29-01-2020, 05:55 PM
I'd love to see the individual objectives. If it's goals or whatever then fair enough, but if selling clubs genuinely sign up to 'Ballon d'Or' clauses they deserve every penny they don't receive.

Does this mean Pogba will be going in the summer or can these two coexist?

Danny
29-01-2020, 05:57 PM
DailyMail have his flight tracked :lol:

https://www.flightradar24.com/C56X/23b0d218

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 06:09 PM
They probably nicked that off reddit.

Andy
29-01-2020, 06:13 PM
Kyle Walker-Peters any good? My only memory is he got 3 assists in a game at some point.

Cant be any worse than Cedric?

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 06:16 PM
ITK UPDATE:

2 loan deals being attempted, 1 of which is a striker, dunno about the other one. Unlikely to get done in time.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-01-2020, 06:18 PM
1222459368181944320

Stunning.

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 06:20 PM
Oh and Marcos Rojo is going on loan to Estudiantes (as per his Mum and Simon Stone).

Baz
29-01-2020, 06:24 PM
The Veron factor. :drool:

mugbull
29-01-2020, 06:27 PM
Kyle Walker-Peters any good? My only memory is he got 3 assists in a game at some point.

Cant be any worse than Cedric?

He's fine but he would probably get outmuscled by Christian Pulisic

phonics
29-01-2020, 06:41 PM
Kyle Walker-Peters any good? My only memory is he got 3 assists in a game at some point.

Cant be any worse than Cedric?

Uh oh are we getting a dud or does he just not give a shit about Southampton any more.

randomlegend
29-01-2020, 06:59 PM
You've qualified for the Champions League via the league twice in the last six seasons and this season could well be the 7th, no? I'd say that's anything but an easy add on.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/evqvx3/sporting_have_published_the_details_of_the_bruno/

;)

Spikey M
29-01-2020, 07:24 PM
Kyle Walker-Peters any good? My only memory is he got 3 assists in a game at some point.

Cant be any worse than Cedric?

In the games he's played in he's either been Man of the Match or absolute shite. No inbetween.

Smjffy
29-01-2020, 07:32 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/evqvx3/sporting_have_published_the_details_of_the_bruno/

;)

That's actually not too bad for both parties in fairness.

Shindig
29-01-2020, 07:41 PM
Oooh, we're in for Danny Rose.

Josh
29-01-2020, 09:43 PM
ITK UPDATE:

2 loan deals being attempted, 1 of which is a striker, dunno about the other one. Unlikely to get done in time.

Further ITK update. Newcastle attempting to sign Messi. Unlikely to be done in time.

Top ITK action provided to you by Josh.

bruhnaldo
29-01-2020, 09:52 PM
Josh Man of the Thread once again wow

Disco
30-01-2020, 08:14 AM
Consistently outperforming Greg, you love to see it.

SincereTheRebel
30-01-2020, 11:19 AM
Sander Berge will be great

for sheffield united

SincereTheRebel
30-01-2020, 11:21 AM
Wolves have signed some winger called Pondence for £17m. Wolves signings have been fairly good since the arrival in the league.

Limoutsonik
30-01-2020, 12:58 PM
Wolves have signed some winger called Pondence for £17m. Wolves signings have been fairly good since the arrival in the league.

Since i am an Olympiakos fan,i will give some insight on him. Exceptional dribbler,diminutive in stature so naturally he isn't very strong when jostled,rather poor finishing,very fast and can put in a good cross. I wouldn't say he is a winger that hugs the touchline and regularly played on the right and cut inside with his right. He is very young still and will surely improve while at Wolves,although he needs to pack some muscle to handle the rigors of premier league football. I wouldn't say that the fee is justified if i am honest.

mugbull
30-01-2020, 01:06 PM
for sheffield united

In general. Dude's a machine. We were in for him last summer as well but the tools who direct transfers thought we need yet another winger with questionable technique and got Bergwijn instead

Mazuuurk
30-01-2020, 02:59 PM
Arsenal seem to be signing a bunch of shit defenders to complement their current setup.