September kickball: The RESPECT edition

[Smjffy]

Fair play to Sheffield United the awkward little fuckers. Good three points.

[Gray Fox]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

Sounds like another shambolic VAR at Bournemouth. It's got to go.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Maybe if Watford sack this manager as well they'll get the new manager bounce this time.

[niko_cee]

67mins, Kovacic replaces Barkley.

Some things never change.

[Waffdon]

At least De Bruyne can finally be called the best player in the league now his captain left for Madrid.

[Gray Fox]

Them having the 2 Silvas and him in the same starting lineup is all kinds of ridiculousness.

[niko_cee]

City really ought to be running in a few against these in the second half.

I have no idea what anyone sees in Alex Iwobi.

[-james-]

Victor Anichebe has a scouse accent. I did not know this.

[Waffdon]

Them having the 2 Silvas and him in the same starting lineup is all kinds of ridiculousness.

David Silva is a tad overrated. Shouldn’t be blocking a path for Foden anyway.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Garreh Neville is talking absolute horseshit again. Would still do a better job than Yerry Mina at the back though.

[Waffdon]

Pickford being England’s #1 for the next few knockout tournaments is a good thing for non English folk. Tosspot

[Lewis]

I suppose you need something to keep you interested in international tournaments.

[Waffdon]

I suppose you need something to keep you interested in international tournaments.

You ok, hun x

[-james-]

I've still got City favourites for the title. They're not keeping as many clean sheets as last season but their attack is light years ahead of the rest.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Now that Kompany is van Dijk, it'll be a lot harder for them.

[niko_cee]

Barcelona fined €300 (not a typo) for illegally approaching Griezmann.

:harold:

[Giggles]

They don’t even bother pretending any more. Can do what they like.

[Ian]

Barcelona fined €300 (not a typo) for illegally approaching Griezmann.

:harold:

Yeah, I must have re-read the sentence in the article I saw about 3 times to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Will they get further bother off UEFA or is that it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I believe that's it.

[igor_balis]

Watching last week's motd, crikey tim Cahill isn't the worlds most exciting man is he?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Does he count towards the black quotas? That would be the only explanation I can think of for his presence on TV.

[mugbull]

He’s black? I always thought he was part Polynesian or something

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hayden should be gone for months for that challenge + the reaction. Absolutely pathetic.

[niko_cee]

Would have been more interesting had it not been given. Still don't reckon VAR would overturn the ref on it.

[phonics]

It's bad but is it that bad?

[Waffdon]

It's bad but is it that bad?

Not really. It’s hardly the worst challenge I’ve ever seen. Won the ball at the end of the day.

[niko_cee]

The game against high flying, former managered, one of the only teams to not lose at Anfield last season, Leicester is our first Saturday 3pm'er I think, which is a bit mad considering some of the crap we've been on telly against

[Shindig]

Can we just be relegated now, please? We're done for.

[phonics]

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If you called yourself a professional defender and this happened would you just retire? Awful.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, more the next Luiz than Messi, that.

[John Arne]

So apparently there was Hillsborough chanting and shit at the Man Utd-Liverpool womens game last week. Talksport just had a female football expert on the phone... Rather talk about the increased popularity of the sport, or the bigger crowds (resulting in more idiots in the crowd)... She immediately blamed specifically men in the crowd. Not idiots or morons... Men. Amazing.

[bruhnaldo]

Well women aren't turning up to football and singing about a tragedy like that are they?

I get your point but I'm just curious cause all the #WoSo broads I know are very liberal and would never even imagine doing such a despicable thing.

Ok I guess what I'm asking is if the people who religiously follow women's soccer do it for the clout like they do in America or nah ?

[John Arne]

Well women aren't turning up to football and singing about a tragedy like that are they?

I get your point but I'm just curious cause all the #WoSo broads I know are very liberal and would never even imagine doing such a despicable thing.

Ok I guess what I'm asking is if the people who religiously follow women's soccer do it for the clout like they do in America or nah ?

Well, it likely is men - but the point is the issue isn't a sex thing - it's a moron and fucking idiots thing. Not everything in the womens game has to boil down to a battle of the sexes.

[Lewis]

How great would it be if women started forming hooligan gangs just like the men.

[John Arne]

The Femultras.

[bruhnaldo]

Well, it likely is men - but the point is the issue isn't a sex thing - it's a moron and fucking idiots thing. Not everything in the womens game has to boil down to a battle of the sexes.

I mean but.... and I don't really enjoy or taking any pleasure in pointing this out... but hooliganism and this type of behavior IS kinda solely a male function if you REALLY think about it....

So while it is a moron and idiots thing, and while pointing this out doesn't really have any real consequence (it's hardly as if it's going to change things if all the LADS got told they are in fact LADS) I don't necessarily think it's wrong in a 2+2 = 4 sort of way.

Sure 2 apples + 2 oranges = 4 fruits and who fucking cares. I'm just saying the "math" isn't really wrong is it?

[John]

The Femultras.

The Always Ultras, surely.

[Ian]

:D

[John Arne]

The Always Ultras, surely.

Repped.

[SincereTheRebel]

Turkey banned all men from Fenerbahce games because of crowd trouble and allowed women and children only. Sounds great.

https://youtu.be/IIOBAteDles

[Lewis]

The stuff that gets posted under the United team announcements is better than the games these days.

[Giggles]

It's mad how meaningless this fixture has become in such a short time from the height of the rivalry.

[Smjffy]

It's mad how meaningless this fixture has become in such a short time from the height of the rivalry.

I find it equally as mad at just how bang average both have become. I'm expecting Arsenal to whoop them or a dour 0-0. I see no way in which the biggest bores in the division take a home win.

[Lewis]

It seems like it was a United lolfest for longer than it was ever actually a bitter rivalry. Even David Moyes took four points from them. They put a couple of results on 'LvG', but then he did them with a youth team and faked a dive on the sideline to don them senseless.

[Smjffy]

You always sensed Arsenal would be the first to crack back then. Fragile mentality compared to United.

[bruhnaldo]

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aww come on that's no fun.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Between 1997 and 2003 they were the only relevant teams in England and had the same low-key-feuding managers throughout, so it was a good rivalry. That was 20 years ago though, I don't know why people expect it to last forever.

[Smjffy]

Then everyone else got money in the mean time and their competitive advantages over the rest were suddenly nil.

[Waffdon]

It’s Arsenal though so should be a good game. Aubameyang double nailed on. I wonder if Rashford will be non league levels again.

[randomlegend]

Wonder how Ashley Young managed to give Aaron Wan Bissaka tonsillitis.

[Foe]

Why does emery not start ceballos?

The only arsenal cm that looks competent on the ball.

[Lewis]

You could forgive Ashley Young for being crap defensively (which he isn't), but how is he so useless on the ball?

[randomlegend]

Tuanzebe looks a massive talent.

[Lewis]

United's best left-back.

[niko_cee]

This is desperate fare.

I know Piers Morgan is a bellend, but best front 3 in world football? What exactly does this Pepe character do?

[bruhnaldo]

This thing some commentators do where they constantly have to bemoan how awful a game has been is exhausting.

Everyone is watching the same match, crying about it at every second isn't omniscient.

[Waffdon]

Another Scottish player doing bits when not playing for them.

[bruhnaldo]

Mcsauce

[Waffdon]

Xhaka ducking out the way hahaha

[randomlegend]

What a hit, fucking hell.

[bruhnaldo]

Imagine your club captain ducking out of the way of a shot destined for goal lol couldn't be my fuckin club.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Scott :cool:

[Gray Fox]

https://i.gyazo.com/565529cd6c571385a52cc87035209d04.png

The fuck is that.

[Yevrah]

Wenger’s legacy?

[Boydy]

All the acestreams I can find keep going back to half time. :moop:

[bruhnaldo]

Can someone explain the handball rules for me again, please? Or a link to them?

[Gray Fox]

Can someone explain the handball rules for me again, please? Or a link to them?

If the ball hits the hand/arm when it's in an unnatural position, or has been brought towards the ball intentionally, handball.

If not, no dice.

[Waffdon]

The absolute state of that decision from the linesman.

[mugbull]

That was the worst offside call i've ever seen. VAR 1-1 Weekend

[bruhnaldo]

Sport is a waste of time.

[Waffdon]

That linesman has put his flag up at every opportunity. Are they not meant to just leave it unless it’s obvious.

[Lewis]

Young appealing for it when he should have been closing down as if there isn't a replay option.

[bruhnaldo]

That linesman has put his flag up at every opportunity. Are they not meant to just leave it unless it’s obvious.

Which is exactly why this is all a waste of our time. It's more about refereeing than sport.

[bruhnaldo]

Welp we've wasted Ashley Young's one good cross this season

[Waffdon]

The whole officiating has been a joke

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Xhaka is crap.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'Mon Greenwood.

[randomlegend]

You could give us 1000 corners and I doubt we'd ever score from one.

[randomlegend]

That linesman has put his flag up at every opportunity. Are they not meant to just leave it unless it’s obvious.

I thought they were meant to put it up if they had the slightest doubt and allow VAR to judge it.

[Spoonsky]

It's the opposite, let the play run and then judge it once the ball's gone in (or not gone in).

[bruhnaldo]

I really like Dan James. That touch to give him the edge was sublime.

[randomlegend]

It's the opposite, let the play run and then judge it once the ball's gone in (or not gone in).

Yeah but once the ball goes in, they are then meant to put it up if they have a doubt right?

[Spoonsky]

Xhaka strikes me not only as a bad player but a really abominable person.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You could give us 1000 corners and I doubt we'd ever score from one.

These DEEP ones which need a header to put it back into the 'danger zone' are horseshit.

Just put Maguire, Lindelof and McTominay central and try to stick it on one of their heads.

[randomlegend]

Xhaka strikes me not only as a bad player but a really abominable person.

Him complaining about the yellow after that foul on Greenwood :D

[-james-]

That Pepe looks an absolute turkey.

[randomlegend]

Only just seen the handball call against Kolasinac, which was an absolutely stone-wall penalty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Pepe looks an absolute turkey.

1/3 of the best attacking trio in the world apparently.

[Lewis]

United haven't been a threat on corners since Ronaldo was the target.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surprised Rashford didn't smash that at the wall.

[Waffdon]

Rashford should get sent on loan to Bournemouth or something.

[mugbull]

Dan James is the first United player I've liked in my whole life

[thommo]

I can't believe I wasted my evening watching that tripe.

[Smjffy]

Dan James is the first United player I've liked in my whole life

The twats are going to ruin him though if they rely on him so much and he'll burn out before the season is through for sure.

[randomlegend]

You still post more about Utd than you do Liverpool, even now we're shit.

[Boydy]

A 1-1 draw? On a monday night?

[niko_cee]

Roy Keane's musings are the only thing worth tuning in for on United games now.

[niko_cee]

Also, in defence of Xhaka, I don't think he ducks out of the way of that shot, he was never in line with it and I think he was trying to get in the way of it in his own inimitably shit way.

I like the fact that Dan James seems to play football in the style of mid-noughties PES Semau.

[Smjffy]

You still post more about Utd than you do Liverpool, even now we're shit.

Factually incorrect but even if it were true, who gives a fuck? I'm keeping you relevant.

[bruhnaldo]

By joining everyone else in live commentary? Great shout.

[John Arne]

Last night showed another problem with VAR. Lino puts up his flag, defenders (could) see it and stop defending, attacker carries on and scores - VAR allows it. We may as well get rid of linesman - just play on until VAR decided.

[SincereTheRebel]

All the defenders carried on except young. The flag didn't seem to go up until Arsenal took the shot. Play to the whistle 101.

[niko_cee]

That lino was a disgrace. Decision insanely bad, put flag up too early (and did this repeatedly during the game), has he even had the VAR briefing? I guess a linesman's flag is 'non-binding' technically (play to the whistle) but I wondered whether they might have weaseled their way out of giving that goal on a technicality. Ref was close to whistling it as well.

[Waffdon]

He was flagging absolutely everything. Man Utd must have had about 3/4 different free kicks crossed in and offside was given. Just play on if you’re going to force VAR to be a thing and review it later.

[SvN]

That lino was a disgrace. Decision insanely bad, put flag up too early (and did this repeatedly during the game), has he even had the VAR briefing? I guess a linesman's flag is 'non-binding' technically (play to the whistle) but I wondered whether they might have weaseled their way out of giving that goal on a technicality. Ref was close to whistling it as well.

The ref did whistle. I think it was before the goal was over the line, but after De Gea was already beaten - so it didn't really make a difference. Agreed though, why on Earth are they flagging that early?

[phonics]

Last night showed another problem with VAR. Lino puts up his flag, defenders (could) see it and stop defending, attacker carries on and scores - VAR allows it. We may as well get rid of linesman - just play on until VAR decided.

I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'

[John Arne]

I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'

It's a problem with the implementation of the system. This is pretty obvious stuff.

[bruhnaldo]

I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'

Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

Is this Terminator?

[Giggles]

Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

Is this Terminator?

VAR could gang rape a group of kids and phonics won't hear a bad word about it.

[phonics]

Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

Is this Terminator?

This guy thinks it's able to reproduce and sentient enough to rape people so maybe?


VAR could gang rape a group of kids and phonics won't hear a bad word about it.

[Giggles]

This guy thinks it's able to reproduce and sentient enough to rape people so maybe?

That's took a wicked deflection.

[bruhnaldo]

Whole different type of foul in the box, that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Humans fucking up by themselves > humans fucking up while using technology. So VAR out please.

[phonics]

Humans fucking up by themselves > humans fucking up while using technology. So VAR out please.

Should be a challenge system for exactly this reason. Manager fucks up by challenging, gets screwed by bad decision later = best outcome for lols.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yeah, a challenge system would be ideal and is exactly how cricket uses it, to often hilarious effect.

Refs having the power, as we are seeing, just leads to them checking absolutely everything and grey areas emerging. The best logic to use is: referee makes a call > is there evidence to overturn that call? > yes/fuck off. VAR does none of that, it's basically a glorified version of that BACK, AND TO THE LEFT thing from JFK.

You also need to have the video ref mic'd up while he does things.

[phonics]

Making it a red card offense if a player storms the VAR room in Stockley Park is a perfect summary of it's implementation. It makes a farce of the system and the rules the system governs.

The reason that Son offside is stupid is because offside is stupid, not VAR. The reason handball decisions seem ludicrous is because it's been a joke for years, not VAR.

[bruhnaldo]

Right but isn't it doubled down because the ridiculousness of the situation was supposed to be eliminated by "removing" the human element? Or am I missing this entirely?

[Gray Fox]

Remember when Tony Pulis said Gnabry wasn't good enough for West Brom?

[phonics]

Right but isn't it doubled down because the ridiculousness of the situation was supposed to be eliminated by "removing" the human element? Or am I missing this entirely?

Is there a decision made by VAR this year that’s been wrong?

[niko_cee]

I like the cricket analogy. Offside is the caught behind where there is a 'definite' answer, and everything else is subject to the dreaded Umpire's Call.

Why don't they do the little look at the tv thing for the onfield ref anymore? In many of these marginal situations I'm sure a referee would be more likely to change their mind than someone in a tv room hundreds of miles away would be to overrule them. At least go through the charade.

[Josh]

Yes. 4 officially: https://www.forbes.com/sites/cybrown/2019/09/13/premier-league-referee-chief-admits-4-var-mistakes-this-season/#106965f56fa9. And then many more where they refuse to overrule a wrong ruling by the on-field official in case they do the same to them the following week when they're in the middle.