Summer Transfer Window 2019

[Reg]

Everything in football and life is either crap or amazing now. Get with the programme, phonics.

[-james-]

The post Rafa exodus begins with us signing Ayoze Pérez maybe...

Find it really hard to see how Newcastle are going to stay up. Rondon was their most important player and he's a gonner too. It's an awful squad. Who are they going to hire that's going to give them any chance?

Still available at 3/1 if anyone can be arsed having money tied up for ten months.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Everyone playing Premier League football is good, imo.

[Spikey M]

Mark Noble.

[John Arne]

I genuinely had no idea that Rob Holding was one of England's best defenders (or least, could have been were in not for Arsenal being Arsenal). You learn something new every day.

[randomlegend]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48854483#click=https://t.co/ovBfNk92Wc

[mugbull]

Doesn’t matter how many years United are terrible, they’ll always be able to offer insane contracts to 7/10 players. They’re like Goldman Sachs, in a way. And who doesn’t want to support Goldman Sachs

[randomlegend]

7/10 :rolleyes:

[mugbull]

Rashford is a 5/10, De Gea is a 8/10 who’s just had a 4/10 season

[randomlegend]

One of the ITKs who's been spot on the last couple of weeks is still saying De Ligt is coming :drool:

[-james-]

Available at 20/1 in case you're a fan of money.

[Spikey M]

I am, so will be avoiding.

[niko_cee]

Rodri(go) to City for €70m seems to be done.

[SincereTheRebel]

Yaya Toure has signed for some chinese division two team. Vaz Te is also playing for them.

[The Merse]

Players that come to mind without checking

Rob Holding
Matteo Gundeozzi

They get way too much game time. Clearly not good enough for a team with aspirations like Arsenal.

Clearly not watched many 90 minutes of ours last year then? Holding was the best defender in the side last year by a distance, whilst Ghendouzi, whilst inconsistent is still precocious enough to warrant game time over the likes of El Neny and errr... fuck who else do we have behind Xhaka and Torreira?!

The real question marks are largely over those we’ve spent plenty on or who were meant to be established internationals - this sums it up nicely and I can’t disagree with any of the assessments:

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Edit - why isn’t tweet sticking...?

[SincereTheRebel]

I can see the tweet embedded nice. Interesting perspective you have, but they are both still not good enough to represent Arsenal. Arsenal want to win, not just compete.

[randomlegend]

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Joao Felix and Hector Herrera to Atletico

https://www.mancity.com/news/first-team/first-team-news/2019/july/man-city-sign-angelino-psv-transfer-latest-update

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Angelino (who?) and Rodrigo to City.

[niko_cee]

Angelino was a City player wasn't he and they've claused him back after doing well at PSV? Presumably some sort of FFP fudge on the loan system.

[Shindig]

Leicester are really willing to buy Ayoze Perez for £30m? We only bought him for £1.5m.

[-james-]

Frank Lampard to Chelsea is done, but they're waiting until tomorrow to announce it because social media websites have been down today.

It's fucking bonkers that in an age where clever, well run football clubs are doing well, Chelsea and Manchester United have chosen to appoint two ex-players with minimal managerial experience as their managers.

[Jimmy Floyd]

From the sort of logic that is being used to run Chelsea, Lampard is actually a very clever appointment. The last two years have just been a parade of toxic negativity, whether it's the team being shite, or the transfer ban, or anti-Semitism/discrimination/homophobia (don't know if this cuts through to the general football audience but it's a MASSIVE issue within the Chelsea support, dividing it straight down the middle), or that bloke screaming at Raheem Sterling.

They've spotted the unique brand of unconditional fan adulation that Hudson-Odoi and particularly Loftus-Cheek have received this season in comparison to other players who actually deliver more, and they've applied that same logic to the managerial appointment. Even if we come 13th, the fans won't turn on Lampard. It's very astute PR. Football wise, complete punt.

[Offshore Toon]

Leicester are really willing to buy Ayoze Perez for £30m? We only bought him for £1.5m.
Why would you ever think a player's value works like that?

[Offshore Toon]

It might be a case that £30m was a release clause too, so Leicester may have wanted to just get it over and done with. I'll miss Ayoze. A lot of our players deserve better so I wish him well. I was tempted to just start supporting Rafa but I'm obviously not going to watch Chinese football. I'm done with Newcastle until Ashley goes, though.

[-james-]

From the sort of logic that is being used to run Chelsea, Lampard is actually a very clever appointment. The last two years have just been a parade of toxic negativity, whether it's the team being shite, or the transfer ban, or anti-Semitism/discrimination/homophobia (don't know if this cuts through to the general football audience but it's a MASSIVE issue within the Chelsea support, dividing it straight down the middle), or that bloke screaming at Raheem Sterling.

They've spotted the unique brand of unconditional fan adulation that Hudson-Odoi and particularly Loftus-Cheek have received this season in comparison to other players who actually deliver more, and they've applied that same logic to the managerial appointment. Even if we come 13th, the fans won't turn on Lampard. It's very astute PR. Football wise, complete punt.

United beat PSG in the champions league and the fans are turning on Solskjaer, and rightly so. Lampard is a punt, yes, and not a good one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

United fanbase is quite different to the Chelsea one, I think. United fans expect Ferguson-era winning machines (and have retroactively tagged 'attacking football' onto that as well, making the job completely impossible). Chelsea fans expect a lot less, but are more chavvy about it so personal cults are stronger.

It's a punt but it makes sense in the context of the way the club is being run at the moment. If we got some clever Euro-god in as manager now it would be a complete waste because he would hate it within a year and leave.

[Lewis]

I haven't seen many people turning against Ole Gunnar Binman. He's one of very few people at the club who isn't disliked at the moment.

[Giggles]

Leicester are really willing to buy Ayoze Perez for £30m? We only bought him for £1.5m.

£30m is about £5m 2014 football pounds.

[randomlegend]

the fans are turning on Solskjaer

No they aren't.

[randomlegend]

The Italian journalists are backtracking on De Ligt, just like the PSG and Barca ones before them.

He's coming to Utd boys, it's on.

[Lewis]

Get on that 20/1 and hire one of those plane banners for the next Orlando game.

[bruhnaldo]

Wait, why Orlando.

[bruhnaldo]

Ooooh to troll me specifically haha I get it now that's fun.

[Gray Fox]

Or because United play there every year because of the ownership.

[bruhnaldo]

I'm pretty sure Manchester United have literally never once played in Orlando.

The ownership group is based out of Tampa and Palm Beach.

[-james-]

No they aren't.

Maybe it's just a few I know who want him out. I dunno why you wouldn't.

[Shindig]

Why would you ever think a player's value works like that?

Because that's how Mike Ashley probably thinks. And he can replace him for probably £5m. Hell, we spent that much on Joselu.

[SincereTheRebel]

No idea how they come to a players value. For me Wan-Bissaka and Zaha are around the same value as with Bissaka, you are paying for ”possible potential”. With Zaha, you already know what you are paying for. He is already established as a good player. Is he really going to move up a level once he leaves Palace?

[niko_cee]

I think Zaha could if not entirely replicate the progress Mané has made at Liverpool then at least get close to it if he played at that level. The idea that his value is equivalent to Wan-Bissake either grossly overrates one, or underrates the other. Not least in terms of value to Palace themselves, where Zaha is probably worth close to their Premier League status.

He's definitely got the ability, it's just whether he has the drive or whatever you want to call it to get there at a bigger club having already sort of failed once.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im all for buying the best players at shit clubs and they then make the step-up. But Zaha does.not give me that same hype as others in similar positions as him. Ive been wrong a lot lately and may be wrong again

[Spikey M]

Zaha strikes me as the type to be undone by a deep lying defence. At a top club he'd just run into congestion and lose the ball. He's nowhere near clinical enough either.

[randomlegend]

ITKs saying De Gea contract extension agreed.

[SvN]

Keep the ITK gold coming :drool:

[Ian]

If there's any hint of anything going on for United on deadline day Randrew will be going full Jim White.

[randomlegend]

I can't pretend any different, I love this shit.

[SincereTheRebel]

Buffon has returned to Juventus on a free

[Gray Fox]

Mak£s you wonder why he l€ft in the fir$t place.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think he may be my absolute least favourite footballer. Appalling man.

[Danny]

Fahrmann to Norwich. If he can get over last season that will be a very good signing

[Boydy]

I think he may be my absolute least favourite footballer. Appalling man.
He's a fascist, isn't he?

[SincereTheRebel]

I think he may be my absolute least favourite footballer. Appalling man.

Legends just fuck up their CV. Rio has 15 games at QPR and Gerrard has a year in LA before retiring. For what...

[SincereTheRebel]

And Robben has just announced his retirement. The way it is supposed to end.

[Spikey M]

Legends just fuck up their CV. Rio has 15 games at QPR and Gerrard has a year in LA before retiring. For what...

££££

Not in the case of Rio, obvs.

[randomlegend]

Maybe they just enjoy playing professional football.

[Spikey M]

Maybe they just enjoy playing professional football.

Why would you go and play in America or China then?

[Pepe]

Or QPR.

[randomlegend]

Why would you go and play in America or China then?

America is clearly going to be an amazing place to live and play for someone like Gerrard/Beckham.

Obviously anyone who goes to China does so for the money.

[SincereTheRebel]

Dont beg. America is one of the worst places in the world.

[randomlegend]

Not if you're a multimillionaire.

[SincereTheRebel]

You can walk out of Asda with a loaf of bread and a pistol. Out in the states is fucked up.

[randomlegend]

I don't think Steven Gerrard shops at Asda.

[phonics]

Playing football in MLS seems miserable to be honest. Constant long journey flights where you have to sit in economy, because America loves it's sports to be as communist as possible, so no team has an advantage.

[Spikey M]

Anywhere is good if your rich. Fuck America.

[Mike]

Whats wrong with wanting money? If I got offered millions to move to America of China for a year and do something I enjoy, I would.

[Spikey M]

Whats wrong with wanting money? If I got offered millions to move to America of China for a year and do something I enjoy, I would.

You're not already earning £200k per week though.

[SincereTheRebel]

Earning more million for a year sounds great especially since they have been earning 100k per week for the past 10 years. But i don't earn millions. Im a fanatic who checks football stats and numbers all day. Seeing some bullshit on players CV at the end, looks shit.

[SincereTheRebel]

Herrera has joined PSG

[Pepe]

Not for the money.

[Spikey M]

PSG is to be filed under 'China'.

Soulless shit pit for mercenaries that want it easy.

[SincereTheRebel]

PSG is to be filed under 'China'.

Soulless shit pit for mercenaries that want it easy.

You may as well add Juventus and Bayern to that list.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you think I'm going to China and having to drown my own poultry for a million quid a year, think again.

I'd do USA for that money, or maybe Japan at a push.

[Mike]

You're not already earning £200k per week though.

I’ve never understood why no footballer has ever signed one of those mega bucks millions of pounds deals, then retired at like 25 to live it up.

[Spikey M]

I’ve never understood why no footballer has ever signed one of those mega bucks millions of pounds deals, then retired at like 25 to live it up.

Because most people don't get good enough to be professional footballers without actually enjoying it.

[mugbull]

You can walk out of Asda with a loaf of bread and a pistol. Out in the states is fucked up.

We don’t have Asda in the states. Which is good because it reads like a keyboard input when you’re trying to type gibberish

[Spikey M]

Asda is Walmart.

[Lewis]

America is clearly going to be an amazing place to live and play for someone like Gerrard/Beckham.

Obviously anyone who goes to China does so for the money.

Yeah, it's a miles better option than dropping down the league[s]. The money is almost irrelevant.

[SvN]

Probably worth it for their ego alone. Rooney is one of the best players in the league in the MLS instead of the slower, whiter Lukaku he was for his last few years at United.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The bigger reason is that these people are incredibly driven (which is why they've reached the top in the first place) and they don't want to let go. You're a long time retired, and all that.

[Baz]

I don't think Steven Gerrard shops at Asda.He shops at The Asda.

[Smjffy]

I don't think there is anything wrong with chasing the money, I have more of an issue in the an attempt to draw more money from my chosen club though.

I think it was Assou-Ekotto(?) who flat out said he only plays for the money or something along those lines which was refreshing.

[Spikey M]

Refreshing but a shame. He was pretty good, but could have been top quality if he had given a shit.

[Mike]

He shops at The Asda.

Legit made me laugh! Nice work.

[Kikó]

Doesn’t matter how many years United are terrible, they’ll always be able to offer insane contracts to 7/10 players. They’re like Goldman Sachs, in a way. And who doesn’t want to support Goldman Sachs

This is bollocks. Goldman always hire top end and cull their bottom 10% worst performers every year.

[Spikey M]

He shops at The Asda.

Giggles knows someone that shops there too.

[mugbull]

Interesting you think their mortgages team and upper management were top performers in the years leading up to 2009

[phonics]

I’ve never understood why no footballer has ever signed one of those mega bucks millions of pounds deals, then retired at like 25 to live it up.

I love the idea of someone being so good at football that he's paid millions of pounds to do it and deciding to jack it in half way through a career that will last less than half of the rest of his life.

[Giggles]

Giggles knows someone that shops there too.

I'm not getting the 'The' Asda thing, but then again Mike would get excited at the word The.

[Lewis]

This is bollocks. Goldman always hire top end and cull their bottom 10% worst performers every year.

Shittest ITK in the thread yet.

[Baz]

I'm not getting the 'The' Asda thing, but then again Mike would get excited at the word The.Its what scousers call it.

[Shindig]

The bigger reason is that these people are incredibly driven (which is why they've reached the top in the first place) and they don't want to let go. You're a long time retired, and all that.

Gazza's the prime example of this. He stopped playing and his life has been completely fucked ever since.

[Mike]

I love the idea of someone being so good at football that he's paid millions of pounds to do it and deciding to jack it in half way through a career that will last less than half of the rest of his life.

Someone like Super Mario Balotelli never seems to actually enjoy playing football, why not go get some silly mega deal in China then go live your life.

[Bam]

Who was that center mid City had, Johnson? He definitely did it.

[Max Power]

Tielemans very close to signing. Top four here we come.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48887835

Raiola has said that Pogba wants to leave.

You alright, Randrew?

[Smjffy]

I just don't get it tbh. I would be biting of the handy of any club who offered a chance to break even on the prick. I just don't see why Man United and their fans would want him representing them irrespective of how good he may allegedly be. He hasn't done enough in the time he has been there on the field and his actions of it have really harmed them.

Sell him to Juventus with Dybala in exchange, add a top centre half and two midfielders then things wouldn't look too bleak even with the nostalgic one at the helm.

[Manc]

The Pogba hate is unreal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd rather have Sandro, Rugani or Bentancur in terms of part exchange.

Never rated Dybala.

[phonics]

Odegaard to Real Sociedad.

Is he the biggest false-promise since Adu?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's only a loan so Madrid haven't given up on him but it doesn't look good.

[Adamski]

I'd rather have Sandro, Rugani or Bentancur in terms of part exchange.

Never rated Dybala.

Rugani is absolute dogshit. Are you basing opinions on FM?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rugani is absolute dogshit. Are you basing opinions on FM?

I'm basing it off his age and his position. I don't think I've ever actually seen him play.

I wanted a Juventus CB but I Chiellini, Barzagli and Bonucci are all well over 30 which doesn't fit THE TRANSFER SYSTEM that Wooders has in place.

[Lewis]

If Madrid aren't willing to pay up then he should stay. The players touted as being part of any exchanges would be useless.

[Waffdon]

I'm basing it off his age and his position. I don't think I've ever actually seen him play.

I wanted a Juventus CB but I Chiellini, Barzagli and Bonucci are all well over 30 which doesn't fit THE TRANSFER SYSTEM that Wooders has in place.

Lol wot

[Gray Fox]

Atletico have told the Greaseman to get the fuck to pre-season training. They've "found out" that he's had a deal with Barcelona in place since March, having started negotiating with them in February and are less than pleased.

Making it worse is now Barcelona think they've already got their man, they're trying to put off the buy out clause over a longer time. They've now told Barcelona they want it all upfront or to piss off.

[SincereTheRebel]

How can he have a deal with barca in march and a.madrid have not accepted any offers for him? How does that work?

[Spikey M]

How can he have a deal with barca in march and a.madrid have not accepted any offers for him? How does that work?

They've gone behind their backs. Presumably that's against the rules ala Liverpool and VVD but fuck all will happen because it's Barcelona.

[randomlegend]

Odegaard to Real Sociedad.

Is he the biggest false-promise since Adu?

Only on loan to Sociedad, and he was apparently very very good last season.

[randomlegend]

How can he have a deal with barca in march and a.madrid have not accepted any offers for him? How does that work?

It's been well known Griezmann's release clause would drop to 120m from 200m on July the 1st for ages. Barca therefore knew they could trigger the release clause and wouldn't need to 'negotiate' with A. Madrid. Therefore they started looking for a deal with Griezmann so they could just trigger the release clause come the date and it all be done.

As Spikey said, that's against the rules unless Atletico gives permission which they clearly didn't. The statement they released is amazing tbh.

In other news, it's plane tracking time on reddit.

EDIT: In other other news, Man Utd just appointment someone I used to play badminton with as their lead Sport Scientist.

[SincereTheRebel]

Just read the statement. For madrid to make the claim, the evidence must be serious. Why would Barca even need to contact greaseman anyway. He made it clear years ago he wanted to join. What is the penalty for Barca, market ban?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2019/07/05/atletico-madrid-issue-furious-statement-slamming-antoine-griezmann-barcelona-10122689/amp/

[SincereTheRebel]

Morata to join a.madrid

https://www.skysports.com/share/11757866

[niko_cee]

I would have thought their whole (idiotic) mandatory release clause system largely mitigates against the dangers/moral outrage of tapping up.

[SincereTheRebel]

I don’t think it is stupid. It is extreme and it does not stop the transfer of players from spanish clubs.

[Gray Fox]

I think they're more pissed off that he went straight to negotiate with Barcelona after they went out of the Champions League.

That Barcelona are now trying to whiff on the fee.

[Giggles]

Can they get away with saying no to Barcelona paying the release in installments or are they just going to end up bullied into it anyway? Normally when a player wants to go then they go.

[Gray Fox]

In instalments it's up to Atletico. If Barcelona stump up the fee up front, there's nothing they can do.

[SincereTheRebel]

It seems fees are not paid upfront anymore. Which is in the best interest for both clubs involved(so I've read)

[randomlegend]

Release clauses have to be paid up front in order for them to actually be triggered. Clubs can choose to accept the same amount as a payment in instalments if they so wish (which sometimes they do to maintain good relations with another club). In this instance Atletico are well within their rights to tell Barca to pay it up front or fuck off.

Atletico themselves paid above Joao Felix's release clause in order to avoid paying it as a lump sum.

In the other news, we idiots on reddit tracked a private jet owned by the same company Utd used to fly in AWB. It said on their website it was going to Lisbon so obviously we thought it was for Bruno Fernandes. Then one of the ITKs came in and said Bruno is flying in today but from Porto not Lisbon. At that exact moment the flight turned towards and ended up landing in Porto. ITK info is it will fly him back this afternoon, landing in Manchester at 5:15pm.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its not like they need the coins either. They have made sales already totalling more than 150m and spent about the same.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tracking planes now, fuck me.

[Spikey M]

Sometimes I feel like we're quite a sad bunch on here, but we're all fucking winners compared to the people involved in that shit.

[randomlegend]

https://www.flightradar24.com/LJ75/212cabc0

Get involved. Should take off about 2:45.

[Ian]

That looks like a contender for most tragic ever post on TTH to me.

[Smjffy]

Hi Ian.

[SincereTheRebel]

Do chelski still have a million english players out on loan? Lampard to recall them all and finally get game time. Still time for Jamal Blackman

[Danny]

Alan running to the press on Lewis (or whatever this threat was) is worse than anything in this thread

[randomlegend]

The plane just landed back in Manchester.

[Giggles]

Even in my heyday of lapping up transfer shit, this would have been too far.

[John]

Alan running to the press on Lewis (or whatever this threat was) is worse than anything in this thread

Give it an hour. The post about Fernandes binning half a disappointing services sandwich is coming.

[Giggles]

He shouldn't have chanced the all-day breakfast.

[Spikey M]

I just hope it's someone signing for City.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd prefer it to be just some random rich dickhead who was flying private.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A few of the ITK plebs (with one of them holding a phone with Randrew on video) with homemade signs waiting for Bruno at the airport.

[Lewis]

If they had half the dedication of those Shia LaBeouf flag legends they would have a man on the runway.

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, tracking flights is nothing special these days. Randrew needs to up his game. He's annoying people because at the moment he's just another ITK geek, but with our help he could really push on and become something special.

[Ian]

Hi Ian.

:D

[The Merse]

Common consensus seems to be that
1) the Tierney deal will be done this week
2) We’ve more than 45m to spend, but the club like that figure being banded around
3) no one, fucking no one want to buy Kolasinac or Mustafi and we’re not willing to loan out the latter
4) Zaha is desperate to join and we’ll stretch to bring him in
5) Our new centre back will be Saliba from ASSE but he’ll be loaned back there for a year

There’s some exciting stuff there - Zaha, Tierney are both addressing issues in the side, and Saliba seems a great prospect but going into the new year with no new CB’s actually available to play is not ideal, and I still think we need competition/something different for Xhaka’s place.

[SincereTheRebel]

Loaning back the CB means he is shit. What are you doing with Nelson, Marlo and Smith? Are they going to br used this season?

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07fpsgr

Well...

[Shindig]

That's perfect. I hope he did all his shifts in a white shirt.

[Pepe]

We need to start copyrighting our creations.

[Smjffy]

What is going on at Leeds United? :D Poor bastards.

[Smjffy]

Tyrone Mings to Villa for £20M.

[SincereTheRebel]

Tyrone Mings to Villa for £20M.

Considering he has had one full season, thats not too bad.

Jose turning down £88m to manage in China though..

[mugbull]

Jose is an idealist. I don’t see him ever going to China, he enjoys the competition in Europe too much

[SincereTheRebel]

They wouldn't understand his trolling out there. Its the portugal or psg he is waiting imo

[bruhnaldo]

I wish the USMNT had the balls to fire this idiot we have now and bring in Mou

[The Merse]

Loaning back the CB means he is shit. What are you doing with Nelson, Marlo and Smith? Are they going to br used this season?

Nelson is back and expected to feature, Smith-Rowe as well (wanted to loan to Leipzig again but they wanted a perm deal or with an option to buy which we're not interested in), unless you mean Matt Smith who's just been promoted to the U23s but is very much on my radar as he looks a real player? As for Marlo... Not a clue who you mean...?

The major prospects outside the two mentioned already are Tyrone John-Jules (son of Red Dwarf star Danny aka Cat, no less), who's been excellent at all age grades and is good, all round striker with more chance of making the grade than the current 3rd choice, Nketiah from what I've seen. Saka and Amaechi are wingers that are a couple of years behind Nelson but look to be perhaps slightly more rounded players, albeit less physically ready, whilst Joe Willock looks the best of the three brothers (the others left for United and Benfica in recent years) and came on in the Europa League final. There's something Rambo-esque about him.

[mo]

The major prospects outside the two mentioned already are Tyrone John-Jules (son of Red Dwarf star Danny aka Cat, no less)

Before Dan Ballard was announced on loan to Swindon, there was a rumour of an Arsenal player joining but no idea on position and we need forwards. Someone came up with possible names, one of which was young Tyrese, who of course stands out for his surname. He’s his nephew as it happens. Danny John-Jules’ kids have triple barrelled surnames, which I’ve not come across before. Nightmare getting those on a shirt!

[The Merse]

That's it, it's Tyreece, not Tyrone - knew I'd cocked that up. Didn't realise he was just his nephew - the internet is a wash with references the other way from a few years back when we first saw him breaking into the U18s as a 16 year old and the name forced a query... I see now a couple of years on that the top results are those more recently showing the relationship is indeed nephew/uncle...

He'd do very well down the lower leagues I think - he's what might now be termed 'old fashioned no 9' that tends to do well at all levels.

Ballard should do well, too.

[SincereTheRebel]

Marlo from The Wire is Nketiah.

[Pen]

I wish the USMNT had the balls to fire this idiot we have now and bring in Mou

Why would Jose be interested in the Ninja Turtles?

[mo]

Why would Jose be interested in the Ninja Turtles?

More to the point, why fire Master Splinter?

[Pen]

Maybe he’s taken them as far as he can. Feels harsh though, I agree with you there.

Edit: You’d think Jose would be more at home with the foot clan anyway.

[Giggles]

They're in the gutter these days.

[bruhnaldo]

Look at these fucking casuals thinking Splinter manages the US Turtles smfh.

[Gray Fox]

Arnautovic has gone for £22m. I wonder what disgusting wages he's on in China.

[SincereTheRebel]

A disrespectful offer according to west ham. They have lined up Maxi Gomez for £50m as his replacement.

De Ligt has agreed terms with Juve according SSN yellow

[Ian]

If they haven't posted their ITK Reddit source then it's nothing but LIES.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The reddit ITKs are all Mino Raiola laughing his tits off.

[SincereTheRebel]

Have West Ham had the worst striker luck in football history? They always seem to throwing around £20m and often, they end up shit.

[Smjffy]

Two years old but as true now as it was then, Sincere.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/jan/17/west-ham-strikers-david-sullivan-gold-simone-zaza-scott-hogan

[Spikey M]

Have West Ham had the worst striker luck in football history? They always seem to throwing around £20m and often, they end up shit.

That's because they keep signing the big-boys cast offs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They also rejected a £35m offer from China in January and made him sign a new contract.

[Baz]

I noticed Stephan El Shaarawy has also gone to China. :rolleyes:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/juventus-preparing-120m-bid-for-pogba-60hd0vjzj

/Accept.

[SincereTheRebel]

Two years old but as true now as it was then, Sincere.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/jan/17/west-ham-strikers-david-sullivan-gold-simone-zaza-scott-hogan

Its even worse than I thought. What an embarassment West ham are.

I was going to do some trivia around it but all the players have been read now. What an

[Ian]

amazing cliffhanger to end the post on.

[Spikey M]

Ian, stop it. These men have families.

[SincereTheRebel]

Leicester complete £40m signing of Youri Tielemans from Monaco on a four-year de

[Max Power]

Oh yes

[Smjffy]

Is this Harvey Elliott worth getting excited about?

[niko_cee]

He's the next Patrick Roberts. Was that his name?

[Smjffy]

Google says so. It also points out he's joined Norwich for this coming campaign on loan so who knows.

I get iffy of these youngsters, mind. We've never really had much luck with them other than TAA. I'm really hoping Brewster gets a look in this season if injury free.

[niko_cee]

Sterling was a fairly decent poaching.

And, thanks to Bournemouth, Ibe and Solanke weren't bad either.

I would guess the chances of nicking genuinely good players off other youth set-ups is fairly low, seeing as most teams move heaven and earth to keep players they seriously rate.

[niko_cee]

Neymar's missed the first day of training apparently.

PSG will probably win the Champions League when he leaves.

[SincereTheRebel]

Neymar's missed the first day of training apparently.

PSG will probably win the Champions League when he leaves.

If you look at Neymar’s son. You can understand why he has trust issues and he is all over the place. He is a jacket.

[mugbull]

He’s a jacket? Like a winter coat?

[Shindig]

Joselu's finalising his deal to Deportivo Alves. I somehow doubt they have £30m but I'll settle for whatever they can give us.

[Smjffy]

Joselu's finalising his deal to Deportivo Alves. I somehow doubt they have £30m but I'll settle for whatever they can give us.

I don't know why he made me recall Xisco so I had a Google to see what he's up to these days which in turn led me on to Newcastle's 2008/09 transfers. Not bad!

Surprising to see Fabricio Coloccini still going in Argentina along with Gutiérrez which is pleasing, but then there is this snippet from Sebastien Bassong who now plays for Peterborough.


"Bassong said he wanted to leave the club, which he later cited "shambolic political situation at the club, with no manager or owner in place and pre-season well under way"

Talk about deja vu.

A few others of the same season. Danny Guthrie currently playing in Indonesia whilst Ryan Taylor just got released from Fleetwood after a season in India. I wonder if he'll rock up elsewhere. Kevin Nolan was the other but I don't even know if he's hung up his boots yet! I really like looking at where past players are now.

[Shindig]

Nufc.com reprinted a Nicky Butt quote from 2009 that was bang on the money about the current situation as well. Meanwhile, a twitter account claiming to represent the buyers has talked about how amicable the process has been and the press are full of shit.

We've been had. For a third fucking time. :moop:

[Gray Fox]

At this point sending the guy into the Tyne, never to be found again, seems like the only option.

[Smjffy]

As disturbed as it is, I'm surprised some mentalist hasn't gone above board and took Ashley out once and for all.

*Wrong team, sorry Shinners.

[Baz]

Who’s this centreback Juve has signed from Sassuolo? Does that mean they don’t need De Ligt?

[Shindig]

Fuck it. The only way to win is not to pay. No season tickets, no new shirts, no bums on seats. I don't want people to turn up and boo. I want silence.

[Smjffy]

Fuck it. The only way to win is not to pay. No season tickets, no new shirts, no bums on seats. I don't want people to turn up and boo. I want silence.

It would certainly be better than buying a ticket then arriving eleven minutes late.

[Offshore Toon]

He definitely should die. I've been saying it for a while now. Even if the takeover happens, I'll be glad to see him dead.

[phonics]

He definitely should die. I've been saying it for a while now. Even if the takeover happens, I'll be glad to see him dead.

lol slight overreaction me thinks.


Joselu's finalising his deal to Deportivo Alves. I somehow doubt they have £30m but I'll settle for whatever they can give us.

Any club that receives 30 million quid for Ayoze Perez while we sold the player that kept, 70 million 12 months later, Allison out of the Roma team to Juventus for 10 million euros can stay schtum or buy Mezut Ozil/Mustafi off us as penance.

[SincereTheRebel]

It only takes one season to go from a complete joke to one of the best in the world.

[John]

Any club that receives 30 million quid for Ayoze Perez while we sold the player that kept, 70 million 12 months later, Allison out of the Roma team to Juventus for 10 million euros can stay schtum or buy Mezut Ozil/Mustafi off us as penance.

That's a fucking Gordian knot of a sentence.

[phonics]

It only takes one season to go from a complete joke to one of the best in the world.

Yeah, I think Leicester have somehow missed that he was completely anonymous when not playing next to Salamon Rondon collecting knockdowns from 70 yards away.

[phonics]

That's a fucking Gordian knot of a sentence.

And you're a Gordian knot of a poster on this board so thank you for appreciating the post. Rep please.

[Shindig]

Get after him, John. He's in love with a human being masquerading as clever AI.

[Spikey M]

Don't chat shit about our bot.

[randomlegend]

Bruno Fernandes and Maguire both look likely to go to United. The Maguire fee is going to be fucking eye-watering.

Lots of links to Milinkovic-Savic going round; seems we might go after him if Pogba leaves.

[Gray Fox]

What happened to the plane?

[Shindig]

Was it a Piper Malibu?

[randomlegend]

What happened to the plane?

Think it was his agent.

[SincereTheRebel]

IDGKT taking L’s all over the place.

[phonics]

Get after him, John. He's in love with a human being masquerading as clever AI.

By the quality of your posts these days, I figure an AI took over your account some years back.

[Mellberg]

Tyrone Mings to Villa for £20M.

Most important signing of the summer. Chuffed.

[Bernanke]

Odegaard + Isak. Definitely booting up a Sociedad-save on FM20. :drool:

[-james-]

Steve Bruce is apparently bookie's favourite for the Newcastle job. Surely not. Surely not.

[-james-]

Neymar's off to Real. #ITK

[Smjffy]

I wonder if he applied himself a little better, focused more on his football than his theatrics whether he would have actually challenged Messi and Ronaldo as the best. It's a joke league in France but his stats speak for themselves. I just don't think he's worth the baggage.

Hazard and Neymar in the same side could see Madrid reclaim the title though.

[Gray Fox]

He did for a year or two at Barcelona. He didn't get that close.

It says everything about him when he ran away for the money, rather than stay and challenge Messi properly.


He's obviously good, but I feel players like him come and go.

[phonics]

How do you challenge Messi in his own personal fifedom?

At the end of the day, he has massive daddy issues and his dads a total cunt.

[Shindig]

When Messi and Ronaldo retire, it's going to feel so empty.

[Offshore Toon]

He'd be in Messi's shadow until Messi retired. Messi is Barcelona at this point. Neymar was right to leave if he had greater ambitions. The long term plan may well have been to go to Real.

[SincereTheRebel]

No one has come close to challenge Messi or Ronaldo. Once they retire, normal service will be restored. They changed the challenge. Neymar still has time on his side. He has made the right decisions so far.

[Lewis]

Somebody should have told him that 'challenging' Messi was a waste of time. He would have been better off playing alongside him and rivalling him at international level.

[SincereTheRebel]

There is nothing wrong with being top 5.

[SincereTheRebel]

Diego Costa and Wolves....

[Baz]

Nottingham Forest seem to be buying decent. Playoffs? :eek:

[Reg]

How do you challenge Messi in his own personal fifedom?

At the end of the day, he has massive daddy issues and his dads a total cunt.
What are his issues?

[phonics]

What are his issues?

He is completely under the thumb of his Dad who lives vicariously through him and uses him to enrich himself. Neymar Sr. has probably made more money off Jrs career than his son has considering he's received 70 million from Barca and PSG just to get his son to join.

It's Birdman and Lil Wayne for football.

[Gray Fox]

I'm sure Barcelona originally paid something in the region of £80-90m for Neymar originally, but only for Santos to receive about a quarter of it. The rest is lining his dads pockets.

He also seems to love spending time with his sister at any given(or not) opportunity.

[bruhnaldo]

that tattoo she got of just his eyes is creepy is fuck

imagine having her on her back and all of a sudden u notice Neymar staring at you

i mean i'm still gonna keep going but still.

[Waffdon]

Diego Costa firing Wolves into the Champions League :drool:

[Smjffy]

He would be a great signing for them tbh, a few times last season they struggled against the shit whereas Costa wouldn't get bullied and would bring a bit of bite and thuggery which I reckon Wolves could do with.

[niko_cee]

Would Costa be any better than Jiminez?

And isn't he completely washed up now anyway?

[Waffdon]

He’d be better and he isn’t washed up. Van Dijk on his arse :drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

Laurent Koscielny has refused to travel with Arsenal on their pre-season tour.
West ham have made a loan move for Higuain.

[-james-]

Diego Costa can fuck off. I reckon Raúl Jiménez is my favourite player in world football at the moment.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

4 league goals in 29 games since going back to 'Atleti'.

He's done.

Wolves only just made Raul Jimenez's deal permanent for £30m too, it's not happening.

Some other foolish team will sign him and regret him.

[Baz]

Why aren’t more clubs sniffing around Ben Yedder?

[SincereTheRebel]

Why aren’t more clubs sniffing around Ben Yedder?

Google says he is coming 29. I thought he was about 22 :moop:

[SincereTheRebel]

Shunsuke Nakamura is still playing and has signed for Yokohama FC at 41. All I remember him for. was the two free-kicks vs Man Utd :drool:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-WUmGZxq5E

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The club also has a 51 year old up front.

[randomlegend]

The plane that AWB was flown in on went Manchester to Amsterdam this morning and is now coming back towards the London airport he came into.

In other words De Ligt to Utd confirmed.

(Not even the ITKs are still on the De Ligt to Utd train but we soldier on).

[Spikey M]

Shunsuke Nakamura is still playing and has signed for Yokohama FC at 41. All I remember him for. was the two free-kicks vs Man Utd :drool:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-WUmGZxq5E


https://youtu.be/R5gZIoo9bso

[John Arne]

Laurent Koscielny has refused to travel with Arsenal on their pre-season tour.
West ham have made a loan move for Higuain.

Captain. Leader. Legend.

[John Arne]

The plane that AWB was flown in on went Manchester to Amsterdam this morning and is now coming back towards the London airport he came into.

In other words De Ligt to Utd confirmed.

(Not even the ITKs are still on the De Ligt to Utd train but we soldier on).

"we"...?

[Shindig]

Won't pay £5m to keep Rafa, spends that much in compo for Bruce. :moop:

[Kikó]

The #mufcfamily

[randomlegend]

Griezmann signed for Barca.

[Trancemeister]

Griezmann official to Barcelona.

[SincereTheRebel]

No clue what Barca will be playing with their forward line. Will Griezmann operatre outwide?

[randomlegend]

Griezmann official to Barcelona.

Loser.

[Gray Fox]

I reckon they may yet shift on Suarez even with the required departure of Dembele/Coutinho.

Though currently either 4-3-3 with De Jong, Rakitic and Arthur/Biscuits, along with Messi, Greaseman and Suarez interchanging. Or I'd have a 4-2-3-1. Messi as the CAM with Suarez up top, Greaseman right and Dembele left.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bruce a very good manager I think. Has never underperformed anywhere that I can recall.

[SincereTheRebel]

I reckon they may yet shift on Suarez even with the required departure of Dembele/Coutinho.

Though currently either 4-3-3 with De Jong, Rakitic and Arthur/Biscuits, along with Messi, Greaseman and Suarez interchanging. Or I'd have a 4-2-3-1. Messi as the CAM with Suarez up top, Greaseman right and Dembele left.

Messi gives zero defensive contrubition anymore. The best sounding scenario would be to move on Suarez, and put Greaseman behind Messi and work from there. Unless Messi is going to evolve again and play in midfield, but I cant see that happening.

[randomlegend]

Looks like De Ligt to Juve will be confirmed today.

[randomlegend]

https://www.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/comunicado-oficial-7

Lol, spicy.

[Gray Fox]

Messi gives zero defensive contrubition anymore. The best sounding scenario would be to move on Suarez, and put Greaseman behind Messi and work from there. Unless Messi is going to evolve again and play in midfield, but I cant see that happening.

That'll only matter in about 4 games every season. That team, especially with the additions this summer is going to coast to the league and probable UCL Semi-final anyway.


https://www.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/comunicado-oficial-7

Lol, spicy.

Translate isn't perfect, but is that basically saying we demand the previous €200m clause is upheld?

[SincereTheRebel]

That'll only matter in about 4 games every season. That team, especially with the additions this summer is going to coast to the league and probable UCL Semi-final anyway.



Translate isn't perfect, but is that basically saying we demand the previous €200m clause is upheld?

Semi finals of champ league isnt good enough for Barca. They really need Neymar back. That havent won it since he left.

[randomlegend]

Yes. It's saying that since Barca agreed terms with him before the clause was reduced, they should have to pay the previous (200m) clause.

Leicester ITK saying Maguire to United is done.

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/comunicado-oficial-7

Lol, spicy.

"Atlético de Madrid believes that the amount deposited is insufficient to meet [Griezmann's] buy-out clause, since it is obvious that the player committed to FC Barcelona before the aforementioned clause was reduced from 200 to 120 million euros," the club said.

"Atlético de Madrid believes that the termination of the contract occurred before the end of last season due to events, acts and demonstrations carried out by the player and that is why the club has already started the procedures it considers appropriate for the defense of its legitimate rights and interests."

[SincereTheRebel]

A.Madrid do have a point if they have evidence that he agreed deal when the clause was 200m. Sounds stupid from a Barcelona view. You know the player only wants to join your team. Why speak to him before the clause decreaes, unless they didnt know...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://en.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/official-statement-4

Why not just link to the English version?

[randomlegend]

I wanted encourage you all to take the opportunity to learn Spanish.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yes. It's saying that since Barca agreed terms with him before the clause was reduced, they should have to pay the previous (200m) clause.

Leicester ITK saying Maguire to United is done.

Another Redditor ITK? They've been on top form this Summer.