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Boydy
18-07-2018, 06:15 PM
Such a shame, he was starting to look really good.

randomlegend
18-07-2018, 06:46 PM
If he's torn a cruciate or something then even if the surgery is genuinely successful then recovery can be very long. Doesn't mean he can't come back.

Spikey M
18-07-2018, 07:01 PM
His mental strength will be as Important as his physical recovery. Djibril Cisse never looked the same after his nightmare. A footballer that’s terrified of injury is going to struggle as much as any injured one.

SincereTheRebel
18-07-2018, 07:33 PM
Oxlade just needed to work on his end product which is something all the wide English men since Beckham didn't have. I like what he did though. Accomplished all he could have with Arsenal and then decided to take a step-down in order to make a step up. Now he is fucked for another year because of a bad knee.

In other news, Klopp at Liverpool has spent over £300m in just under three years.

CJay
18-07-2018, 09:15 PM
I'm just about to return to playing football after rupturing my ACL last April (surgery in September). I can confirm that even playing casual training games is scary when you first go back to training, let alone an actual match. I can run 10km no problem now, but the thought of putting my foot into a tackle is still very scary.

Shindig
18-07-2018, 09:54 PM
Even getting your studs caught will put you on edge. That's how a lad at work tore his.

Waffdon
18-07-2018, 09:57 PM
Sky Italia saying Chelsea after Pjanic as well. Their midfield options would be fucking mental if that happened.

Max Power
18-07-2018, 10:02 PM
Kante must be off surely. Take his lovely head to Spain and rack up more titles.

Boydy
18-07-2018, 10:04 PM
Did anyone see the video of Pogba leading the French team singing the N'Golo Kante song when they got back to Paris? Kante's face was great. :D

Jimmy Floyd
18-07-2018, 11:00 PM
Real Madrid don't buy black players, luckily.

SincereTheRebel
19-07-2018, 04:40 AM
I'm just about to return to playing football after rupturing my ACL last April (surgery in September). I can confirm that even playing casual training games is scary when you first go back to training, let alone an actual match. I can run 10km no problem now, but the thought of putting my foot into a tackle is still very scary.


Even getting your studs caught will put you on edge. That's how a lad at work tore his.

Ive never tore or broken anything. Worst injury ive had is bucking my toe on the side of the bed. Done this countless times. Even playing football after that, it is in the back of your mind. I can imagine coming back from a tear is scary on another level.

Kikó
19-07-2018, 06:43 AM
I've done my other side knee that isn't ACL (should Google it) blocking a pass. No surgery but just completely unable to play for about 6 weeks then another couple of months rehabbing. I think I did play a cup final after taking pain killers which was probably dumb.

Anyway, heard mourinho was his dour self yesterday. Roll on the season.

Jimmy Floyd
19-07-2018, 07:43 AM
We're being linked with Higuain now. Don't think there's ever been a stronger Operation candidate than he.

Max Power
19-07-2018, 10:50 AM
Looks like Schmiechel is off. And naturally we are replacing him with Liverpool's fourth choice keeper. Really liked the business we did early this window but losing two key players is a blow.

John Arne
19-07-2018, 10:51 AM
Danny Ward is great.

John Arne
19-07-2018, 10:52 AM
You should go for Tom Heaton given the Pope is likely to be Burnley's number 1.

Max Power
19-07-2018, 10:53 AM
Thought we'd try for Butland. Surely he won't play in the Championship.

Gray Fox
19-07-2018, 10:53 AM
Don't you disrespect Danny Ward by inferring he's 4th choice. Everyone on the board is ahead of Karius in the pecking order now.

Jimmy Floyd
19-07-2018, 10:56 AM
It seems to be a very slow market this year. Did the WC just park everything? A lot for most teams to do in only 2-3 weeks.

Max Power
19-07-2018, 10:59 AM
Spurs and Burnley yet to make a single signing. There's gonna be a mad rush now you'd imagine. European clubs will be rubbing their hands together with glee.

Gray Fox
19-07-2018, 11:01 AM
The last few days and deadline day and going to explode surely.

John Arne
19-07-2018, 11:03 AM
From a Liverpool perspective - I'm pretty happy. If Alisson goes through, that means we've added a goalkeeper, together with Keita and Fabinho in midfield and Shaqiri as back up to the front 3. I actually would have preferred giving Woodburn and Ojo more minutes rather than sign Shaqiri, but for 13m, it's pretty low risk.

Our biggest problem now is offloading the turd;

Lolris Karius
Si Mignolet
Raggy Klavan
Grujic (loan somewhere)
Alb Moreno (keep around for the lol's, perhaps)
Div Origi (12m to Huddersfield, surely?)
Danny Ings (love him, but no place for him)
Dan Sturridge
Laz Markovic (lol)

If we can somehow recoup 30m-40m for that lot, job done.

Spikey M
19-07-2018, 11:04 AM
It seems to be a very slow market this year. Did the WC just park everything? A lot for most teams to do in only 2-3 weeks.

Maybe it’s the bubble bursting? Teams getting priced out of the market so sticking with what they have.

Jimmy Floyd
19-07-2018, 11:05 AM
The last few days and deadline day and going to explode surely.

I reckon they will have to do a lot amongst each other/from the Football League. As a European club, why would you sell to England until the absolute last minute at an extortionate price?

Guybrush
19-07-2018, 12:04 PM
From a Liverpool perspective - I'm pretty happy. If Alisson goes through, that means we've added a goalkeeper, together with Keita and Fabinho in midfield and Shaqiri as back up to the front 3. I actually would have preferred giving Woodburn and Ojo more minutes rather than sign Shaqiri, but for 13m, it's pretty low risk.

Our biggest problem now is offloading the turd;

Lolris Karius
Si Mignolet
Raggy Klavan
Grujic (loan somewhere)
Alb Moreno (keep around for the lol's, perhaps)
Div Origi (12m to Huddersfield, surely?)
Danny Ings (love him, but no place for him)
Dan Sturridge
Laz Markovic (lol)

If we can somehow recoup 30m-40m for that lot, job done.

Would be a bit daft to get rid of all three of Ings, Origi and Sturridge. Leaves us with no back-up striker. I'd keep Klavan as well unless another centre back comes in.

Jimmy Floyd
19-07-2018, 12:19 PM
You'll struggle to offload Sturridge. Who is going to pay those wages for someone with that injury record.

Sir Andy Mahowry
19-07-2018, 12:30 PM
West Ham.

John
19-07-2018, 12:35 PM
Harry Forrester, just released by Rangers yesterday, is off to play under John Toshack for an Iranian side with 'Tractor' in their name.

Giggles
19-07-2018, 03:02 PM
Just seen this (he's been in a couple of our international squads). Bit of a strange move.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44877537

Max Power
19-07-2018, 04:05 PM
Salford spending mega money for non league. Must have a league one budget based on what they’ve done so far.

John
19-07-2018, 04:18 PM
Rooney had a terrific season a couple of years ago but he's been trending down for a while now and lost what little pace he had. He should do fine at that level on instincts and finishing alone though.

igor_balis
19-07-2018, 06:26 PM
We've signed 25 year old goalkeeper Jonathan Bond from Reading (who?) and Sam Johnstone from Man Utd. The latter is meant to be quite good, no? Also Kyle Bartley. Know the name but not a lot else.

Less confident about us boing boinging back to the promised land, but I'm not particularly arsed. Prem's shite anyway.

bruhnaldo
19-07-2018, 08:03 PM
I'll always hold a soft spot for Sam Johnstone as in my FIFA career once he lead the team to treble glory after Dave decided he wanted to put in a transfer request in the middle of fucking March :drool: (and I had already sold our other backup because when in the fuck do you ever need a backup gk in FIFA).

John
19-07-2018, 08:23 PM
We've signed 25 year old goalkeeper Jonathan Bond from Reading (who?) and Sam Johnstone from Man Utd. The latter is meant to be quite good, no? Also Kyle Bartley. Know the name but not a lot else.

Less confident about us boing boinging back to the promised land, but I'm not particularly arsed. Prem's shite anyway.

Bartley is a bit of a nutcase.

https://youtu.be/Vb_wGZaQpjE

Sir Andy Mahowry
19-07-2018, 09:21 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44890499

Alisson is official.

Jimmy Floyd
19-07-2018, 09:23 PM
I think that's a decent buy, in spite of all my beliefs about South American goalkeepers. They start the season as clear favourites for a comfortable title win, which is exactly where I want them.

randomlegend
19-07-2018, 09:27 PM
How are they 'clear favourites for a comfortable title win' after Man City's season last year?

Jimmy Floyd
19-07-2018, 09:31 PM
I'm only scouse baiting, but the useless man yoo fans always bite first.

randomlegend
19-07-2018, 09:38 PM
Nah mate I was playing along with your plan.

:uhoh:

Gray Fox
19-07-2018, 10:04 PM
From a Liverpool perspective - I'm pretty happy. If Alisson goes through, that means we've added a goalkeeper, together with Keita and Fabinho in midfield and Shaqiri as back up to the front 3. I actually would have preferred giving Woodburn and Ojo more minutes rather than sign Shaqiri, but for 13m, it's pretty low risk.

Our biggest problem now is offloading the turd;

Lolris Karius - Staying
Si Mignolet - Going
Raggy Klavan - Staying
Grujic (loan somewhere) - Going
Alb Moreno (keep around for the lol's, perhaps) - Staying
Div Origi (12m to Huddersfield, surely?) - Will be offloaded in any way possible
Danny Ings (love him, but no place for him) - Would do well to get himself to a Championship team to get a long first team run
Dan Sturridge - Staying as valuable back up
Laz Markovic (lol) - Keep forgetting he's still here

If we can somehow recoup 30m-40m for that lot, job done.

May get £20m back if lucky.

The Alisson signing especially says to me Klopp thinks the team is ready to win things and now. The squad has also got a lot stronger. I still imagine Woodburn will get some chances, though maybe not so much Ojo.

Rumour is we're still having Fekir on top of all this as well. Crazy to see us finally spending after the saving up period.

SincereTheRebel
20-07-2018, 06:29 AM
Allison has terrible skin once you look at his properly. His face looks like a cheese grater. Going to Liverpool is a good thing though. Both Klopp and Firminio had fucked up teeth when they first arrived but have since had them fixed. RAWK NHS working nice.

niko_cee
20-07-2018, 06:35 AM
I'm sure they'll be able to get Nivea on the case.

Gray Fox
20-07-2018, 09:57 AM
Agent Firmino with 2 signings in the off-season. And we thought he couldn't get any better.

SincereTheRebel
20-07-2018, 10:28 AM
I’m really happy, it’s a dream come true to wear such a prestigious shirt for a club of this size that is used to always winning

Always winning he said. Lad, Liverpool won the league cup in 2012 and an FA Cup in 2006. They are on a drought.

They have put together a nice team though over the past few seasons. Some good signings and they have a lot of depth now. They definatly have a better team than Chelsea and Man Utd right now. Losing back to back european finals is a massaive heartbreak.

SincereTheRebel
20-07-2018, 11:06 AM
SSN are reporting Chelsea and Juventus are in contact over Higuain. That looks like such a horrible signing. Its two years too late.

Mazuuurk
20-07-2018, 01:22 PM
Just fucking play Giroud. He WILL score goals for them if they do.

Jimmy Floyd
20-07-2018, 01:37 PM
I'd argue a striker is (for once) the least of our concerns - if Hazard and Courtois are off, then we can't necessarily replace them but we do need to come up with some sort of solid alternative.

SincereTheRebel
20-07-2018, 01:44 PM
Morata did great considering 99% of the strikers have had the 'operation'

SincereTheRebel
20-07-2018, 02:20 PM
I would rather take Zaha over Higuain at Chelsea

bruhnaldo
20-07-2018, 02:57 PM
What's the deal with this guy Madrid just bought? Vinicius Jr?

Jimmy Floyd
20-07-2018, 03:07 PM
I would rather take Zaha over Higuain at Chelsea

Zaha is doing just fine where he is, as the star man at a smaller club. A move, especially to us, would be foolish.

niko_cee
20-07-2018, 03:48 PM
I'd argue a striker is (for once) the least of our concerns - if Hazard and Courtois are off, then we can't necessarily replace them but we do need to come up with some sort of solid alternative.

Lazar Markovic put in a decent turn against Blackburn last night, and I'm sure we have a 'keeper or two you could have for beans . . .

Baz
20-07-2018, 03:52 PM
Zaha is doing just fine where he is, as the star man at a smaller club. A move, especially to us, would be foolish.It would certainly doom Palace to relegation. Last season when they started without him they not only lost every single game, but didn’t even score a single goal.

Spikey M
20-07-2018, 04:48 PM
They seem determined not to sell and he seems pretty content to stay.

Baz
20-07-2018, 04:50 PM
They seem determined not to sell and he seems pretty content to stay.He asked to leave today. :cab:

Bam
20-07-2018, 04:54 PM
They seem determined not to sell and he seems pretty content to stay.

:lol:

Spikey M
20-07-2018, 04:58 PM
:D Oh. Handn’t seen that. Someone’s getting fleeced then.

Jimmy Floyd
20-07-2018, 05:05 PM
He goes to a 'bigger club' and he just becomes some random winger, probably from the bench. He needs to be the focal point of a team.

Spikey M
20-07-2018, 05:14 PM
Or he becomes the next Salah / Mahrez.

niko_cee
20-07-2018, 05:24 PM
Is that transfer request official or is it just Evening Standard clickbait?

Jimmy Floyd
20-07-2018, 05:26 PM
All the ES have to go on these days is Palace transfer rumours and Scotty Parker's bowel movements.

Max Power
20-07-2018, 05:27 PM
Richarlison, he of three good months at the start of last season, is off to Everton for close to £50m. Ridiculous. Makes the £60m we got for Mahrez more insulting.

mugbull
20-07-2018, 05:32 PM
How do Everton have this much money? I thought last season was them spunking their entire load

Jimmy Floyd
20-07-2018, 05:34 PM
That is probably the most Everton thing that has ever happened, even more so than when Denis Stracqualursi netted against us.

Max Power
20-07-2018, 05:55 PM
We have now signed this Danny Ward guy who Huddersfield fans say is “ok in the championship” and who couldn’t get close to troubling Mingolet and Karius. Hopefully just back up and if Schmeichel goes well sign someone more senior and reputable. Hosing £10-12m on back up keepers though... I dunno.

John
20-07-2018, 06:06 PM
Spent a season on loan at Aberdeen recently and wasn't even their undisputed first choice.

Max Power
20-07-2018, 06:18 PM
Obviously it’s been done to death but the transfer fee inflation really is insane, still some come around I can’t get my head around. When we got promoted four years ago we spent £6m rising to £8m on Leo Ulloa to spearhead our attack and it seemed very steep, so much so his song referenced the high fee. Now we are spending nearly more than double on a reserve keeper who hasn’t really played much football at 25 years old. 2014 Ulloa would probably go for like £20m now or something.

Baz
20-07-2018, 06:19 PM
Getting £10m for Ward is majestic.
That is probably the most Everton thing that has ever happened, even more so than when Denis Stracqualursi netted against us.:lol:

niko_cee
20-07-2018, 07:49 PM
£50m for Richar "no goals since November" lison? £12.5m for a 'keeper who's never played a minute of top flight football (or has he)? Where does this end?

Shindig
20-07-2018, 07:50 PM
I don't know how you make that Richarlison deal in good faith. £39m profit in 11 months.

niko_cee
20-07-2018, 07:56 PM
In fairness, Richarlison had an almost identical minutes per goal stat (565.4) as Sigurdsson (565.5) last season. How much was he? £40m?

Mellberg
20-07-2018, 07:58 PM
Harry Forrester, just released by Rangers yesterday, is off to play under John Toshack for an Iranian side with 'Tractor' in their name.

If that's the one who came through the Villa however many years ago he was very promising. How did he turn out? Shit?

Mellberg
20-07-2018, 08:03 PM
And those fees for a load of shit are absurd. Surely it's got to the stage where you just promote a kid/shop abroad.

Also, we're not going full Leeds for another year or two:

www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/20/aston-villa-receive-significant-investment-from-billionaires

John
20-07-2018, 08:36 PM
If that's the one who came through the Villa however many years ago he was very promising. How did he turn out? Shit?

The very same. I quite liked him, and he had a little spell of coming up with big goals, but in general he wasn't in a stand out and he has no work ethic so he was never likely to last.

Shindig
21-07-2018, 12:39 PM
Jack Colback's loaned out to Forest for the last year of his contract. Shame.

wrdsmff
21-07-2018, 09:47 PM
Obviously it’s been done to death but the transfer fee inflation really is insane, still some come around I can’t get my head around. When we got promoted four years ago we spent £6m rising to £8m on Leo Ulloa to spearhead our attack and it seemed very steep, so much so his song referenced the high fee. Now we are spending nearly more than double on a reserve keeper who hasn’t really played much football at 25 years old. 2014 Ulloa would probably go for like £20m now or something.

I find myself more annoyed than I should be at the transfer fees over the last couple of years but I lie in hope that this is how the ass falls out of football.

I hope so but the first billion pound transfer is only a decade or two away in reality.

Bam
22-07-2018, 07:17 AM
If that's the one who came through the Villa however many years ago he was very promising. How did he turn out? Shit?

Brilliant, that's why he's playing for an Iranian side with 'Tractor' in their name

Spikey M
22-07-2018, 07:36 AM
Allahu Tractor.

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 06:42 AM
Ozil has gone hard on the German football people as he has now retired from international football. Accused them of racism and the rest of it in a two-page statement.

https://dailym.ai/2LhoqWn

I can understand how he feels. But that's the microwave era we now live in today. When you do bad, the whole world will get on you.

Spikey M
23-07-2018, 06:53 AM
When he leaves Arsenal. :drool:

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 08:20 AM
They should have sold him already. This new manager may give him a burst of life if they play him as a CAM but I don't think that is happening. He will probably be out wide in a 433. I want arsenal to play with two strikers and a diamond midfield. They have no natural wide men anymore.

Mazuuurk
23-07-2018, 08:24 AM
They should have sold him already. This new manager may give him a burst of life if they play him as a CAM but I don't think that is happening. He will probably be out wide in a 433. I want arsenal to play with two strikers and a diamond midfield. They have no natural wide men anymore.


Yeah specially since Emery apparently has a big liking for Lucas Perez (lol!) meaning he might get some game time (LOL!).

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 08:26 AM
Yeah specially since Emery apparently has a big liking for Lucas Perez (lol!) meaning he might get some game time (LOL!).

Spanish link.

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 08:27 AM
Another Portuguese midfielder on the way to Wolves. Moutinho for £5m has been agreed with Monaco on a two year deal.

niko_cee
23-07-2018, 08:29 AM
What's going on there then (obvious aside)? Didn't they want £50m for him last summer?

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 08:40 AM
He is shit, thats why.

Chelsea want Martial to replace Willian.

Mazuuurk
23-07-2018, 08:55 AM
That seems astute.

Martial has more to give than Mourinho let's him IMO, and while Willian is solid, great and a great player to have, he sometimes to me almost seems painfully consistent at his level which I can't explain well but is sort of very high, but never outstanding (if that makes sense to anyone).

wrdsmff
23-07-2018, 08:59 AM
He's the running version of Michael Carrick for me. He's also a man of integrity given how Chelsea downed tools a few years ago.

Mazuuurk
23-07-2018, 09:01 AM
Read through Ozils statement I have to say, fair play to him.

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 09:35 AM
Read through Ozils statement I have to say, fair play to him.

He pulled out the cannon.

Jimmy Floyd
23-07-2018, 11:07 AM
I'd take Martial in a heartbeat. For once we could be the beneficiaries of Mourinho's young player blind spot.

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 11:49 AM
It would be amazing if Martial moved on and instantly, was a success somewhere else.

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 11:58 AM
Read through Ozils statement I have to say, fair play to him.

Rebuttal from Bayern president



I am glad that this scare is now over. He had been playing shit for years, He last won a tackle before the 2014 World Cup. And now he and his shit performance hide beyond this picture. His 35 million follower boys - that don't exist in the real world - are convinced he has played sublimely when he completes a cross pass. The development in our country is a catastrophe. You have to go back to what it is: sport. And from a sporting point of view, Özil has no place in the national team for years.


:lol:

Mazuuurk
23-07-2018, 12:21 PM
Yeah, the whole thing would obviously have a little more Punch if Ozil was at the top of his game, ca 2013 or whenever he was being great for Real Madrid, basically.

SincereTheRebel
23-07-2018, 12:37 PM
He should have the season of his life, but I just don't believe in him anymore unless he is playing central.

Mazuuurk
23-07-2018, 12:39 PM
He got the no. 10 shirt now didn't he, so you imagine Emery might want to use him in that role.

Think it's a little too late for a proper redemption from him though.

Spikey M
23-07-2018, 01:21 PM
I can’t fucking wait for Phonics / Arsenal Twitter to see that.

Lewis
23-07-2018, 03:17 PM
I suppose he even had to retire like a coward. Good on the German FA and its Bavarian outriders rubbishing it though. Here we would have launched an urgent review and staged a helicopter crash for Dave Whelan.

Jimmy Floyd
23-07-2018, 06:37 PM
An urgent review headed up by Hope Powell and Jason Roberts. Still, I suppose unlike the Germans we have a shameful history when it comes to the way we manage ethnicity.

Ian
23-07-2018, 07:05 PM
German FA prejudice is the only reason Sol Campbell isn't the Germany captain to this day.

Bastards.

SincereTheRebel
24-07-2018, 10:25 AM
Chelsea has rejected a third Barcelona bid (£65m) for Willian. Now Barcelona is allegedly trying to sign Malcolm who was super close to joining Roma.

randomlegend
24-07-2018, 12:51 PM
If Utd really go into this season having only signed Fridge for the first team (which isn't looking all that unlikely) then my god it's going to be rough.

Jimmy Floyd
24-07-2018, 12:56 PM
Les Fridge?

The problem with Mourinho football is that if he isn't winning the league, it's pretty bleak.

SincereTheRebel
24-07-2018, 12:59 PM
Thinking when was the last time any team finished above Man Utd in the league for six seasons straight.

bruhnaldo
24-07-2018, 01:14 PM
What an odd stat to think/care about.

Lewis
24-07-2018, 03:02 PM
They only desperately need a centre-back (preferably not Harry Maguire), and somebody to be really good on the right side of the attack. The latter will probably come from overseas, so whatever there is ages left. I also think I'm in the get 'Tony Martial' to fuck camp now. Fanny.

Boydy
24-07-2018, 04:02 PM
How long has Mourinho been there now? How many more seasons does he get if he doesn't win the league?

Lewis
24-07-2018, 04:44 PM
If he goes close this year then I would give him another one. If he is well off the pace again, and doesn't do anything in the cups (like win them), then you could make a strong case for chucking him. I think what would decide it there is if things are still a bit disjointed and weird like they were for the back half of this previous season, because then you would have to ask what he is actually doing to manage the players he has.

Jimmy Floyd
24-07-2018, 04:48 PM
What he needs to do is get the most out of his best player (Poggers) rather than falling out with him. Probably too late.

Lewis
24-07-2018, 04:49 PM
Paulp Ogba needs to get the best out of himself.

randomlegend
24-07-2018, 05:04 PM
They only desperately need a centre-back (preferably not Harry Maguire), and somebody to be really good on the right side of the attack. The latter will probably come from overseas, so whatever there is ages left. I also think I'm in the get 'Tony Martial' to fuck camp now. Fanny.

I can understand why Martial was pissed off last season to be honest. He'd been playing well before Sanchez came in, then he just instantly lost his place and didn't get it back despite Sanchez being pretty shit.

His 'attitude' was never a problem under Van Gaal either. Mourinho is definitely part of the problem.

On another note, Malcom has signed for Barca now.

mugbull
24-07-2018, 05:30 PM
Still no transfer news in or out for Spurs, but one of our center backs did pick up an injury, so there’s that at least

randomlegend
24-07-2018, 05:39 PM
Richarlison to Everton being reported as done.

Lewis
24-07-2018, 08:21 PM
I can understand why Martial was pissed off last season to be honest. He'd been playing well before Sanchez came in, then he just instantly lost his place and didn't get it back despite Sanchez being pretty shit.

His 'attitude' was never a problem under Van Gaal either. Mourinho is definitely part of the problem.

On another note, Malcom has signed for Barca now.

He was doing alright, but he hasn't taken any of the opportunities he has had since then, so what can you do? It's all the more frustrating bearing in mind that they are crying out for a right-sided attacker, so why doesn't he make that position his own? He has everything you could want to be effective there.

Ian
24-07-2018, 09:19 PM
Do you not have to accept that sometimes young players aren't Ronaldo and won't just "take their opportunities" every time but have some faith if you believe in them? Martial is in the top handful of players in our squad I wouldn't be selling.

Lewis
24-07-2018, 09:42 PM
I don't think you need to be Ronaldo, seeing as Jesse Lingard has managed to go from lol big goal merchant to key international player in twelve months. What was he offering the manager that Martial doesn't, or more likely won't? I would happily keep him for the long-term, but if he would rather play for Chelsea than fight for a place then pfft.

SincereTheRebel
25-07-2018, 08:24 AM
Andre Shirley is back in London for a medical with Fulham

Baz
25-07-2018, 08:54 AM
Andre Shirley is back in London for a medical with FulhamThat could be a good signing. Fulham mean business. Surprised they sold Fredericks.

Edit: they didn’t even sell him, it was a bozza.

Jimmy Floyd
25-07-2018, 09:35 AM
They are pretty badly short at the moment, need a number of signings.

Kikó
25-07-2018, 09:44 AM
Andre Shirley is back in London for a medical with Fulham

Good player.

And don't call him Shirley.

thommo
25-07-2018, 09:44 AM
We've made 3 signings so far (4 if Schurrle does come in), but we lost Fredericks and 6 loans from last season. We're lacking a lot of depth and a couple of first-team players for sure.

We need to get Mitrovic over the line and then move for a couple of defenders in my opinion.

SincereTheRebel
25-07-2018, 11:40 AM
Jerome Boateng is in talks with PSG and Gelson Martins has joined A.Madrid for free on a six year deal.

Baz
25-07-2018, 11:59 AM
Appreciate your service, Sincere. :thbup:

SincereTheRebel
25-07-2018, 02:41 PM
Joining Chelsea on a one-year deal.


https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/916/almost.jpg

Giggles
25-07-2018, 03:32 PM
Who?

John
25-07-2018, 03:35 PM
Robert Green. I'd have thought him chucking one in against America would be the highlight of that world cup for you.

Byron
25-07-2018, 04:43 PM
The bit I like the most is how the newspapers are calling it a SHOCK TRANSFER when he's no doubt moving to be 3rd choice and satisfy homegrown requirements.

Giggles
25-07-2018, 04:50 PM
Robert Green. I'd have thought him chucking one in against America would be the highlight of that world cup for you.

I've a vague recollection. Couldn't pick him out of a lineup though.

Shindig
25-07-2018, 07:22 PM
Schar's on his way for £3.5m. That's practically free.

Kikó
25-07-2018, 08:47 PM
I read his name as 5char.

Weaver
25-07-2018, 10:15 PM
Gelson Martins has joined A.Madrid for free on a six year deal.

Gelson moves on a free, Rui Patricio went to Wolves for free but Lisbon are taking legal action, all while Real Betis paid €13M for William Carvalho. And Bas Dost got himself a new contract...

Mazuuurk
26-07-2018, 08:17 AM
Barcelona seem to have signe this Malcom for 36m.

I don't get things. Now I don't know much about this guy, but I know quite a few clubs were after him already last year. Much like Jean Michel Seri at nice.

Now in the end, he goes for 36m, and Seri went (to Fulham on top of it) for like 25m or something.


Meanwhile, Everton are trying to sign Richairlison for 50m. It's like the people making these decisions don't have the Internet or something.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 08:19 AM
Wolves has signed Jonny Castro on loan. Barry Douglas looks like he could be joining Leeds. He is one of Wolves best players last year playing as a wing back. I would be super disapointed to see him go. He whipped in several free-kicks last year with his left foot. He is a really good player.

Mazuuurk
26-07-2018, 11:50 AM
Why would they get rid of him then...?

Giggles
26-07-2018, 11:51 AM
He's not Portuguese.

Andy
26-07-2018, 12:04 PM
Not part of the Mendez master plan.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 12:10 PM
Facts. Wolves have a Portuguese Nando invasion under Nuno and Super Agent Mendes which worked in the championship very well. But in the big man league, he has added more Portuguese and Spanish man. Too much already.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 12:35 PM
Man Utd have made an official approach for Harry Maguire.

Danny
26-07-2018, 12:55 PM
Ugh

Giggles
26-07-2018, 12:57 PM
Can't be any Utd supporter not seriously underwhelmed with that.

bruhnaldo
26-07-2018, 01:16 PM
Joining Chelsea on a one-year deal.


https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/916/almost.jpg




Who?

Robert Green is an American footballing legend put some respek on his name! lolol


Robert Green. I'd have thought him chucking one in against America would be the highlight of that world cup for you.

To be fair, this was our highlight that World Cup FWIW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k29wBfLmNP0

randomlegend
26-07-2018, 01:37 PM
Leicester have apparently rejected £65m for Maguire. Bonkers.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 01:47 PM
I don't think Harry will pull a Mahrez so Leicester will be alright

Jimmy Floyd
26-07-2018, 02:10 PM
They don't need to sell and after a strong World Cup he's at the peak of his value. I imagine you'll be paying nine figures if you want him.

Utterly appalling bit of recruitment from United unless they think he's Baresi.

Mazuuurk
26-07-2018, 02:16 PM
"Having had a good world cup" for a player who is up until then not really that proven is a classic. Don't think it has ever, EVER been a good buy for the buying in terms of value.


Can someone think of an example where it actually happened, where a player (who wasn't already at a top club) did an amazing World Cup and then turned out to be worth the price?

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 02:20 PM
"Having had a good world cup" for a player who is up until then not really that proven is a classic. Don't think it has ever, EVER been a good buy for the buying in terms of value.


Can someone think of an example where it actually happened, where a player (who wasn't already at a top club) did an amazing World Cup and then turned out to be worth the price?

El Hadji Diouf

thommo
26-07-2018, 02:23 PM
El Hadji Diouf

Didn't he go a whole season without scoring for Liverpool? Wouldn't label him a success whatsoever.

Lewis
26-07-2018, 02:29 PM
Is there really not a better central defender anywhere in Europe that could be had for sixty million quid? He apparently won't even force the move as well the timewaster.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 02:30 PM
English Premium.

Jimmy Floyd
26-07-2018, 02:32 PM
I think they are fine for homegrowns as well so it makes zero sense.

Lewis
26-07-2018, 02:34 PM
I seem to remember him being good in one (possibly both) of the United games this season, but those performances said more about United than him. Can't they just kidnap Toby Alderweireld from the airport?

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-07-2018, 02:41 PM
There's a heap of defenders we'd be better of signing for that.

Mazuuurk
26-07-2018, 02:44 PM
El Hadji Diouf

LOL are you kidding? In 55 apps for Liverpool (in 3 years...) he scored 3 goals before they sent him to Bolton.

Great success.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 03:02 PM
LOL are you kidding? In 55 apps for Liverpool (in 3 years...) he scored 3 goals before they sent him to Bolton.

Great success.

He was worth it for the spitting and diving. Fantastic entertainment.

Max Power
26-07-2018, 03:25 PM
Don’t see us selling Maguire at all this window tbh. Especially after losing Mahrez and with such a short amount of time left in the window.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 03:32 PM
Season starts in two weeks :drool:

It really does creep up on you. World Cup helped speed things up. Where is the 'Season Expectations thread'

randomlegend
26-07-2018, 04:06 PM
"Having had a good world cup" for a player who is up until then not really that proven is a classic. Don't think it has ever, EVER been a good buy for the buying in terms of value.


Can someone think of an example where it actually happened, where a player (who wasn't already at a top club) did an amazing World Cup and then turned out to be worth the price?

James Rodriguez? I know he fell out of favour at Real and is at Bayern, but by all accounts he was actually very good at Madrid when he played and has been amazing for Bayern too.

Andy
26-07-2018, 05:39 PM
English Premium.

Premier league premium. Fair play to Leicester.

Lewis
26-07-2018, 05:42 PM
In this case the 'premium' makes up the majority of the amount.

niko_cee
26-07-2018, 05:55 PM
I didn't think fees were relevant anymore.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 06:54 PM
I didn't think fees were relevant anymore.

Yeah, I agree. Im going to stop commenting on fees and trying to justify every move based on it.

Lewis
26-07-2018, 06:55 PM
Nobody cares about the cost, only that it would be him instead of a better player.

niko_cee
26-07-2018, 06:57 PM
I reckon he's a bit of a colossus.

Rather spaff that on him than some dickhead like Jerome Boateng.

Kikó
26-07-2018, 06:58 PM
We want to bin Rojo, Damien and martial. If we replace with slab and Perisic then I suppose that's a good summer.

randomlegend
26-07-2018, 07:17 PM
Perisic who'll be 30 in February and cost a bomb as well.

We'll have to replace half the team in about 2 years if we keep on like this.

Shindig
26-07-2018, 07:29 PM
Sounds like Muto is on. Mats Sels went but I'm not sure of the fee. I'm hoping we're not done for the window.

Andy
26-07-2018, 07:34 PM
Perisic who'll be 30 in February and cost a bomb as well.

We'll have to replace half the team in about 2 years if we keep on like this.

Welcome to Jose Mourinho.

Lewis
26-07-2018, 07:39 PM
By the time Perisic is done they could sign Chong back from wherever he escaped to.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-07-2018, 07:59 PM
De Vrij > life. Get him in.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 08:18 PM
Jose has an excellent record when leaving clubs and they then implode for a few seasons.

Gray Fox
26-07-2018, 08:24 PM
De Vrij > life. Get him in.

He's gone to Inter Milan from Lazio. Suspiciously right after Inter beat Lazio on the final day, in which De Vrij gave away a penalty, in order for Inter to make the Champions League over them.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-07-2018, 08:55 PM
He's gone to Inter Milan from Lazio. Suspiciously right after Inter beat Lazio on the final day, in which De Vrij gave away a penalty, in order for Inter to make the Champions League over them.

Balls.

Koulibaly and Bailly would be monstrous but i can't see it happening sadly.

I saw a rumour of Varane but after his World Cup it would take a huge offer.

niko_cee
26-07-2018, 09:03 PM
Hadn't de Vrij already agreed to go to Inter before that game (not that that makes it any less :sherlock:)?

Max Power
26-07-2018, 09:06 PM
Slabhead is legit quality. Not £100m but he is really good. He’ll iron out a few little lapses with time and experience. He ain’t going though.

Jimmy Floyd
26-07-2018, 09:09 PM
I was reading 'The Secret Footballer' recently and in it, there's a bizarre passage in which among other race-based gubbins, he claims that you should never have two black centre halves playing together. I reckon Mourinho would be a subscriber to that sort of nonsense.

Giggles
26-07-2018, 09:10 PM
I was reading 'The Secret Footballer' recently and in it, there's a bizarre passage in which he claims that you should never have two black centre halves playing together. I reckon Mourinho would be a subscriber to that sort of nonsense.

Where do you read that? Is there something online other than the books?

Jimmy Floyd
26-07-2018, 09:15 PM
No, I was reading (or rather listening to the audiobook of) the most recent book. Aside from a few lol passages which you can definitely trace to being about well known individuals, it's largely a load of bullshit.

Lewis
26-07-2018, 09:19 PM
I always thought it was really banal shit when I saw the column. If it was a journalist making the same observations and quoting 'sources' he would be nowhere.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 09:20 PM
I was reading 'The Secret Footballer' recently and in it, there's a bizarre passage in which among other race-based gubbins, he claims that you should never have two black centre halves playing together. I reckon Mourinho would be a subscriber to that sort of nonsense.

http://essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Toure-Campbell-300x238.jpg

Jimmy Floyd
26-07-2018, 09:21 PM
I haven't read all his output, but in this one there's a class section that is clearly about Harry Redknapp and an even better section which is clearly about Tony Pulis. Most of it is just warbling shite though.

SincereTheRebel
26-07-2018, 09:21 PM
I sort of agree with that statement though. Black defenders can't head footballs.

Kikó
26-07-2018, 09:47 PM
Or Serbian defenders.

Shindig
26-07-2018, 10:18 PM
So that's why we sold Mbemba.

SincereTheRebel
27-07-2018, 10:39 AM
Can't they just kidnap Toby Alderweireld from the airport?

Spurs are holding out for £50m+.

SincereTheRebel
27-07-2018, 11:43 AM
Either the goalkeeper shirt is ridiculous tight or Cech is on some sort of gorilla steroid.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NINTCHDBPICT0004213615861.jpg?w=960

Mazuuurk
27-07-2018, 11:46 AM
Yeah what happened there... He always seemed really sort of lanky.

SincereTheRebel
27-07-2018, 12:03 PM
SSN are reporting that Jordan Pickford is Chelsea's main target if Courtois leaves with one year left on his deal. Its at yellow at the bottom of the screen.

Baz
27-07-2018, 12:09 PM
That’d be Everton down. :drool:

Waffdon
27-07-2018, 12:36 PM
Pickford isn’t that good. Some downgrade.

SincereTheRebel
27-07-2018, 12:56 PM
That save in the World Cup before Colombia scored the header was ridiculously good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zMAJUQimQE

Sir Andy Mahowry
27-07-2018, 01:00 PM
Pickford isn’t that good. Some downgrade.
Agreed.

He had a great World Cup but he was pretty shaky at times last season.

Mazuuurk
27-07-2018, 01:10 PM
In fairness, most keepers are a downgrade from Courtois IMO.

Lewis
27-07-2018, 01:24 PM
Spurs are holding out for £50m+.

Worth it.

SincereTheRebel
27-07-2018, 01:46 PM
He has one year left on his Spurs deal.

Lewis
27-07-2018, 01:54 PM
Which is probably why he will end up going for less, but even if it was that then so wot mate.

bruhnaldo
27-07-2018, 01:56 PM
I realize you can't just throw money at people because it fucks up your negotiating position later on because clubs know you'll pay them whatever they ask but at some point Manchester United needs to use their 5048 noodle sponsors for good.

Lewis
27-07-2018, 02:02 PM
If Daniel Levy is such a grasping slaphead as to DEMAND fifty million quid for somebody almost out of contract, then surely he won't turn down forty as the clock starts ticking. Unless he's still SEETHING about being donned over Berbatoss. I don't know.

Mazuuurk
27-07-2018, 02:06 PM
I mean, what was the price in the end for Sanchez, who only had 6 months left as well.

Lewis
27-07-2018, 02:08 PM
They swapped him for a vastly inferior player.

Mazuuurk
27-07-2018, 02:19 PM
Well, sure, but it's not as if he came without any cost on top of that.

niko_cee
27-07-2018, 06:45 PM
If Daniel Levy is such a grasping slaphead as to DEMAND fifty million quid for somebody almost out of contract, then surely he won't turn down forty as the clock starts ticking. Unless he's still SEETHING about being donned over Berbatoss. I don't know.

He may as well just hold out. Can always sell him to Spain (or wherever) after our window has closed, and if you're going to take a lower price, may as well not also strengthen a rival.


They swapped him for a vastly inferior player.

And £2m a month over 60 months. No veneer in 'ere.

mugbull
27-07-2018, 07:04 PM
Lewis' seethe :D

Jimmy Floyd
27-07-2018, 07:10 PM
There's no one who will love this early deadline business more than Daniel Levy.

mugbull
27-07-2018, 07:37 PM
Toby-Martial swap should still be on the cards if United can get over their superiority complex

Lewis
27-07-2018, 09:20 PM
I'm not sure why he would expect to get loads more football at Tottenham. Doesn't that shit hot Korean play in his favoured position?

Giggles
27-07-2018, 09:23 PM
Is Son good now? He used to have about one decent game in four and spent the rest of the time shooting over from stupid angles.

SincereTheRebel
27-07-2018, 10:14 PM
Son is good. I wouldnt play martial ahead of son. No way. Son is unavailable for another month though as he has the Asian games

Sir Andy Mahowry
27-07-2018, 10:20 PM
Which they have to win or he has to go into the military.

mugbull
27-07-2018, 10:45 PM
I'd drop Dele for Martial in a second. Maybe Son as well, depends. Son can play in loads of positions so it wouldn't be hard

Lewis
27-07-2018, 10:59 PM
Martial is better than 'Dele', who is the most overrated player in the country, but he would single-handedly ruin the Tottenham PRESSING game if you replaced them, so I don't know. Elsewhere, I am a MASSIVE Marcos Rojo fan, but if United can bilk twenty-five million out of Wolves for him then a bit of Scouse maths makes any extortionate Maguire transfer respectable.

Jimmy Floyd
27-07-2018, 11:13 PM
Wolves is nothing more than an import house for Jorge Mendes, so trying to extort them probably isn't the greatest business strategy.

What they really need to be doing is re-establishing the Fergie network of mug managers to buy your unwanted players.

Lewis
27-07-2018, 11:21 PM
I think Jorge Mendes is the best hope for that. Otherwise, if everyone is hiring no mark foreign Good Football tossers, then 'Pep' and Jurgen 'Jurgen Klopp' Klopp are the more natural centres of gravity than moody old possession is wank Jose Mourinho. His best hope of having a feeder network is Frank Lampard going from club to club doing not a lot but re-building every squad he inherits to 'add a bit of quality'.

SincereTheRebel
28-07-2018, 07:44 AM
Which they have to win or he has to go into the military.

Sounds like a good deal. I know little about the S. Korean culture but isn't it a great honour to represent and die in combat.

Giggles
28-07-2018, 07:46 AM
Sounds like a good deal. I know little about the S. Korean culture but isn't it a great honour to represent and die in combat.

Only if you want to.

SincereTheRebel
28-07-2018, 07:55 AM
Should have applied that same logic to harry kane and them. Maybe things would have turned out different.

Shindig
28-07-2018, 07:58 AM
What wars are South Korea fighting, exactly? He'll stand on the DMZ line, sign some autographs and wave. Oh, Muto's in. He has an award-winning smile.

Gray Fox
28-07-2018, 11:05 AM
Is it 2 years he has to serve if they dont win? No pressure.

Spikey M
28-07-2018, 02:21 PM
What a shit country.

mugbull
28-07-2018, 06:15 PM
Y'all don't have to do that because of the US. Be thankful.

Lewis
28-07-2018, 06:41 PM
In a way, given that we got rid of National Service to pay for our nuclear programme that, despite having helped to fund and develop theirs, was denied access to American information.

Bam
28-07-2018, 07:11 PM
Watch out, Lew is rolling up the sleeves here. :box:

Lewis
28-07-2018, 07:15 PM
Done a thousand press-ups, and now I'm shadow boxing in front of the mirror.

Lewis
28-07-2018, 07:39 PM
Make that mirrors. I've set eight of them up so I can cover all angles.

mugbull
28-07-2018, 10:38 PM
Ya but you'd be speaking German or Russian long before then otherwise lololol

mugbull
28-07-2018, 10:38 PM
Which mirror you gonna use now, buddy boy?

Lewis
28-07-2018, 10:49 PM
Whichever can make sense of that.

Shindig
29-07-2018, 08:18 AM
Mitrovic to Fulham. £22m

Giggles
29-07-2018, 08:19 AM
Mitrovic to Fulham. £22m

That's basically a free these days.

niko_cee
29-07-2018, 09:24 AM
Liverpool want £27m for Origi.

:D

And £20m for Ings.

Bargains.

SincereTheRebel
29-07-2018, 09:53 AM
20 is the new 10. Danny Ings has been injured for two years hasnt he?

Spikey M
29-07-2018, 10:28 AM
Assuming the m is a typo?

Andy
29-07-2018, 11:23 AM
I'll be so pissed off if we sign Ings for 20m.

Even in this market it's crazy.

Jimmy Floyd
29-07-2018, 09:06 PM
It's nice to see Jose Mourinho paying tribute to Conte by having the exact same summer as him, a year on. He won't last another.

randomlegend
29-07-2018, 09:12 PM
I don't really understand what the board is trying to achieve if all the stories are true.

Either back him and pay for the players he wants, or sack him.

Jimmy Floyd
29-07-2018, 09:13 PM
Probably trying to achieve the latter on a time delay if their preferred replacement isn't currently available.

Lewis
29-07-2018, 09:29 PM
He's going to win the league in the greatest MIND GAME of all time.

niko_cee
29-07-2018, 09:33 PM
I saw Lewandowski's keen to move if he can have the same deal as Sanchez.

The board probably just don't want to see Antony Martial being brilliant in 3 years whilst they're still paying off the remaining 2 years of Willian and Alderweireld's contracts.

Mourinho, for all is his dreadfulness, is definitely their best bet though. Get a class of 92er in in his stead and you're at defcon end of days.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-07-2018, 09:33 PM
It's a bit like how I used to fine players 2 weeks wages on FM constantly when they kept rejecting moves.

Lewis
29-07-2018, 10:01 PM
Who is the highest profile manager they could... Arsene Wenger. :drool:

Kikó
29-07-2018, 10:07 PM
The glazers are parasites and Ed is a weasel. Still, mourinho could cheer up a little.

Gray Fox
29-07-2018, 10:56 PM
I don't really understand what the board is trying to achieve if all the stories are true.

Either back him and pay for the players he wants, or sack him.

Surely £75m on Lukaku, £90m on Pogba(who looks like one of the best midfielders in the world in a France shirt), £40m on Fred, £30m on Matic and Mkhitaryan, Then similar on Bailly and Lindelof, whilst bringing in Sanchez, can be considered backing him and buying the players he wants?

At some point he should be expected to kick on really.

ItalAussie
30-07-2018, 04:07 AM
If they don't plan to kick on, could we have Pogba back? He's competent for us.

Spikey M
30-07-2018, 04:55 AM
I don't really understand what the board is trying to achieve if all the stories are true.

Either back him and pay for the players he wants, or sack him.

Mate. He’s had about 85 billion spent so far.

niko_cee
30-07-2018, 06:25 AM
Yeah, but Liverpool have spent some money this summer so it's not fair.

Giggles
30-07-2018, 07:13 AM
He just hates the whole thing now and should be retired.

Mike
30-07-2018, 07:38 AM
He’s the best thing to happen to United since David Moyes. :D

thommo
30-07-2018, 07:51 AM
Mitrovic to Fulham. £22m

No chance it is actually that much either. Little bit of Newcastle PR work, especially when the two teams were haggling between £16m and £18m earlier in the week.

SincereTheRebel
30-07-2018, 08:53 AM
Chelsea linked with Ramsey is funny/

Lucas Digne has moved to Everton from Barcelona

Chelsea are not tlking to Real Madrid bout Courtois until they have found a replacement.

Tazman Alireza Jahanbakhsh has joined Brighton on the low

Spikey M
30-07-2018, 08:55 AM
Why has Kiko bottled his stroppy post?

SincereTheRebel
30-07-2018, 08:58 AM
Jose has already had money to spend which is one of the reasons he is a great manager. They have done OK on the trophy front under him, however its the league that is the most important. They need to figour out how they are going to finish above Manchester Blue.