UFC thread

[John]

That could be a career ender actually.

The other Cyborg has set up a GoFundMe page for him to cover his medical bills. Seven grand in three hours.

[Shindig]

That's the kind of thing that would stop me from entering a ring ever again.

[Disco]

It's the kind of thing that could stop you from eating solid food ever again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/7/18/12218730/jon-jones-opens-up-about-drug-test-failure-i-m-a-victim-of-my-own

755158246134992896

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ExHeavyweight-Champ-Brock-Lesnar-Also-Failed-InCompetition-Drug-Test-at-UFC-200-108309


Former heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar also failed an in-competition drug test at UFC 200, according to a statement released by the promotion on Tuesday.

It was initially revealed on Friday that Lesnar was facing a potential anti-doping policy violation stemming from an out-of-competition sample collected on June 28, although the results were not processed by the WADA-accredited UCLA Olympic lab on July 14, five days after the conclusion of UFC 200.

According to the latest statement, Lesnar’s sample tested positive for the same substance on both occasions. It still remains unknown the substance for which Lesnar tested positive. The UFC’s full statement is as follows:

The UFC organization was notified today that the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) has informed Brock Lesnar that his in-competition sample collection from July 9, 2016, at UFC 200, has tested positive for the same substance as his previously announced out-of-competition collection on June 28, 2016.

USADA, the independent administrator of the UFC Anti-Doping Policy, will handle the results management and appropriate adjudication of this case. It is important to note that, under the UFC Anti-Doping Policy, there is a full fair legal review process that is afforded to all athletes before any sanctions are imposed. The Nevada State Athletic Commission also retains jurisdiction over this matter as the sample collection was performed at UFC 200 in Las Vegas.

Consistent with all previous potential anti-doping violations, additional information will be provided at the appropriate time as the process moves forward.

:harold:

[Disco]

UFC have looked like a total joke over the last few months.

[Lewis]

He's a white boy and he's jacked. Deal with it.

[John]

It's oestrogen blockers, apparently, which means he was hammering the steroids.

[five time]

Same chemical as Jones apparently.

Given that he passed multiple tests prior to these two, did he fuck up? Not sure if this kind of stuff can be masked somehow,

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chad Mendes has been banned for 2 years for pissing hot last month.

Also, Dana White has thrown his support towards Donald Trump:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhpd_EcCz78

:harold:

[Disco]

Interestingly the WWE Wellness Policy only covers 'full time performers', which makes sense when you realise that HHH and Vincent Kennedy McMahon still work there.

[John]

The new doping controls are going to catch a shitload of people out. About a quarter of the roster will be fucked by the end of the year. Bringing in the new controls was a calculated risk and it looks like it's going to blow up on them. The sale couldn't have been timed any better from the Fertittas point of view.

[Lewis]

Have they changed the ratios allowed or have they banned certain things?

[John]

They've made everything a hundred times more stringent, changed the labs, and given USADA free reign to test whoever and whenever they want. There are new things banned and new indicators being picked up on too, but the biggest change is that they've farmed it out to USADA where before it was largely internal.

They changed the disciplinary process too, where before you could get six months backdated or a fine for a first offence, now it's an automatic two year ban that they can boost to four if you've been particularly egregious about it. If your first offence is a four and you fuck up again, the second ban is an automatic eight years.

[Lewis]

It must have been pretty lol before.

[John]

People were still pinged for it occasionally, but it was all done in concert with whichever athletic commission was covering the event a fighter was signed on to, so it was pretty easily gamed. The UFC itself was guilty of finding ways around it as well, actually. When the blanket ban on TRT came in Vitor Belfort went from not having fought in Brazil for fourteen years to fighting almost exclusively in Brazil, because TRT wasn't banned there.

It also lead to lol things like Wanderlei Silva literally running out of the building when a drug tester turned up unannounced, and then being banned for life for it by the NSAC.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://streamable.com/hz2d

USADA even came after Mighty Mouse whilst he was streaming on Twitch.

[five time]

It also lead to lol things like Wanderlei Silva literally running out of the building when a drug tester turned up unannounced, and then being banned for life for it by the NSAC.

Sonnen had a pretty lol story of Jones hiding under the ring for about 8 hours because the official turned up at his gym unannounced and then said he would wait.

[John]

That sort of thing makes it extra lol when they try to blame it on tainted supplements.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's fucking amazing if true.

[John]

Amir Khan reckons he's going to put in a year of training MMA and then fight Connor McGregor in the UFC.

Given how his chin holds up to a padded fist can you imagine what he'd be like if he got head kicked? It'd be like when Wile E. Coyote would accidentally slingshot himself into a cliffside.

[SvN]

I can't wait to see what mental dance his legs do this time.

[John]

I've just found out Ryan Jimmo, of fastest knockout and robot celebration fame, died last month. Hit by a car.

[Chrissy]

It also lead to lol things like Wanderlei Silva literally running out of the building when a drug tester turned up unannounced, and then being banned for life for it by the NSAC.

Wanderlei was, like Chael, one fo the first two guys to get tested. When you hear how the tester arrived without id, refused to let Wanderlei read through of have his legal representation read through the paperwork etc, I don't blame him from walking away. Sonnen explained exactly what happened on Rogan's JRE recently.

[Chrissy]

Chad Mendes popped for growth hormones. :) haha

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/7/21/12250870/source-skin-cream-triggered-chad-mendes-positive-usada-drug-test-mma-ufc-news

Chad Mendes’ positive drug test for Growth Hormone-Releasing Hexapeptide (GHRP-6) was triggered by a cream used to treat his lifelong skin condition, a source close to Mendes told BloodyElbow.com. The UFC featherweight contender used the cream without knowing it contained GHRP-6, per the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

GHRP-6 is part of a class of drugs called growth hormone releasing peptides. It “is a substance which is designed to increase your body’s natural production of growth hormone,” as written by Iain Kidd in a recent story on the banned substance.

:D

[Disco]

Testing bodies should operate on a zero tolerance, accept no excuse basis so we don't have to see all these athletes twist themselves into knots trying to explain it away.

[John]

Testing bodies should operate on a zero tolerance, accept no excuse basis so we don't have to see all these athletes twist themselves into knots trying to explain it away.

There's a genuine issue with tainted supplements, but I suppose it's not unreasonable to expect a fighter to do their homework on that stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

But they're professional athletes who know USADA's stance.

I know Mighty Mouse sends them everything/calls them before taking anything and gets the all clear from them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bellator have signed Kimbo Slice's son, he only made his amateur debut in March at this amazing venue:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4o00fGtL4Y

Dinner and a show.

[Chrissy]

Have they changed the ratios allowed or have they banned certain things?

There is a banned list of things. Not PEDs just banned substances. No ratio changes etc.

[Chrissy]

But they're professional athletes who know USADA's stance.

I know Mighty Mouse sends them everything/calls them before taking anything and gets the all clear from them.

Mighty Mouse eats and drinks clean, therefore he aint worried. Everyone else should follow his example.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/7/28/12319768/photos-cyborg-santos-before-and-after-surgery

Cyborg has had surgery, there's a serious amount of metal holding his skull up.

[Waffdon]

WOODLEY

Beautifully done.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Krylov :|

What a head kick.

[John]

That shot from Woodley was an absolute whopper but I maintain that he should have been nowhere near a title fight. His last fight was a split decision over Kelvin Gastelum the better part of two years ago, for fuck sake.

Stephen Thompson, who'd won six in a row, four of them by knockout and one of them against a guy now knocking guys out a weight above, before he fought McDonald last month. He should have fought Lawler last night, while Woodley should have fought McDonald last month so that if he did get a title shot it would at least feel earned.

[Chrissy]

That shot from Woodley was an absolute whopper but I maintain that he should have been nowhere near a title fight. His last fight was a split decision over Kelvin Gastelum the better part of two years ago, for fuck sake.

Stephen Thompson, who'd won six in a row, four of them by knockout and one of them against a guy now knocking guys out a weight above, before he fought McDonald last month. He should have fought Lawler last night, while Woodley should have fought McDonald last month so that if he did get a title shot it would at least feel earned.

Have to agree with all of the above.

[John]

It's funny how obviously they're building Yair Rodriguez up to be 'the new Conor' in case Nate Diaz biffs him again.

Yair is fucking great and every bit as exciting a fighter as McGregor but his press conferences tend to be reasonably respectful affairs so fingers crossed they actually do give him a heavy push.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ufc-fighter-army-ranger-tim-032628324.html

Tim Kennedy pulled a gun on a USADA agent he thought was someone from ISIS :cab:

[Baz]

Hahaha standard conclusion jump, there.

Reminds me of my mates dad who's neighbour got him a Christmas card but didn't know his name, so played it safe with 'to Vernon..' :D

[Waffdon]

Diaz is a proper gangsta'. His walk right before the cans/bottles were launched at the PC. :D

[Gray Fox]

Diaz is going to fuck him up inside one round this time.

[Waffdon]

McGregor will dominate round one again. It'll just be whether or not Diaz's chin will lol past him again.

[Baz]

Anyone here gonna try to get tickets for Bisping's title defence in Manchester? I think it's UFC 206, without checking.

How much are they likely to cost?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cheapest are around £70 or something I believe. And it's 204.

[Baz]

Cheers. I won't be bothering cos not enough of my mates like UFC, and it's a bit pricey if you're just going for a pissup.

Here's to hoping Bisping KO's him and delivers a few cheap shots when he's down. Revenge. :drool:

As for Saturday, I'm looking forward to seeing Rumble. Really don't know what to expect. PS C'mon Nate!

[Waffdon]

I'm contemplating going, Baz. 3am start will be a right laugh. I also fly back into Edinburgh on the Friday from Prague so I've not made my mind up yet

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bisping has said that Jon Jones actually failed his test due to the drug, Cialis. The drug is to help with erectile dysfunction and Jones decided to be cheap and buy a generic brand which has estrogen blockers in it.

:harold:

"It turns out Jon Jones didn’t take the estrogen blockers or whatever it was and, therefore, he may be coming back sooner rather than later," Bisping said. "I hear that the supplement in question — and it’s not even a supplement — was a sex aid, Cialis, but it was a generic version — it wasn’t the brand name. It apparently has estrogen blockers in it. That’s what he took and he’s maybe just looking at a little slap on the wrist."

Stunning.

[Waffdon]

Cody Garbrandt and Dominick Cruz would be a cracking bout.

[Waffdon]

Holy shit :|

So many finishes tonight.

[John Arne]

Did I miss Diaz landing a massive shot? McGregor has fallen off a cliff energy wise.

[John Arne]

At what point do you have to start questioning McGregors training regime? Being so knackered after 2 rounds...

[John Arne]

Not sure about that. I thought Diaz had that on points.

[Waffdon]

That second wind in the fourth saved McGregor. His style will always knacker him. Diaz just takes a stupid amount of damage. I had Conor taking 1st with ease and 2nd and 4th just about.

Should be easier at 155 but McGregor needs to go back to 145 to lol past the division again

[Waffdon]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/24/12625654/rory-macdonald-close-to-finalizing-contract-with-bellator-mma?_ga=1.145766708.1458703855.1471746972

:(

[Chrissy]

At what point do you have to start questioning McGregors training regime? Being so knackered after 2 rounds...

You try doing that. Nate was fucked as well. The speed at which they fought was relentless at times. You gas pretty damn quick at that level.

[John Arne]

You try doing that. Nate was fucked as well. The speed at which they fought was relentless at times. You gas pretty damn quick at that level.

For sure. And no, I won't try doing that, thanks.

I still think he was blowing hard, too quickly - but yeah, fair enough - he's pretty explosive and that uses up a lot of energy.

[Chrissy]

Ack you have a point, he was blowing out his arse from the second onwards

[Waffdon]

McGregor really is on course to be one of the GOATS. Only the second man to win at 145 and 170. It's a shame he won't have the chance to be a two weight division champion.

[Waffdon]

I won't be shocked to see Maia get a title shot ahead of Thompson. Both would win a title fight, though.

[Chrissy]

McGregor really is on course to be one of the GOATS. Only the second man to win at 145 and 170. It's a shame he won't have the chance to be a two weight division champion.

He may have a chance, he just needs to work on his takedown defence more. GOAT is so subjective but we'll see where he is in five years. He is certainly on course to earn the most.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Strong rumours floating around that the UFC will announce tomorrow, that Conor will fight GSP at 205 in November in New York.

Utterly pointless. GSP is a BIG welterweight and one of the best wrestlers to ever get into an octagon. He'd just take down Conor with ease and grind out a 5 round victory.

[John]

If he doesn't relinquish his belt for that fight then they're all full of shit.

[Chrissy]

Joe Silva gone. Alot of shit for Sean Shelby to do now

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If he doesn't relinquish his belt for that fight then they're all full of shit.

Well Dana said after the Diaz fight that Conor would have to fight Aldo or he'd be stripped of his belt. A day later he changed his tune and said Conor wont be stripped of his belt, he'd have to 'give it up'.

In the end they'll let him do what he wants.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really like the premise of the new TUF season.

The flyweight champions from 16 different organisations fighting it out for a title shot against Demetrious Johnson.

[John]

It's nonsense, and they know it. What would it say about the UFC if their all conquering, pound-for-pound best who's torn through his division with increasing ease got knocked off by some chancing reality show winner from a regional African show?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nkazimulo Zulu will be our new flyweight champion and it's going to be glorious. Embrace it, John.

[John]

If you want a quality narrative then Damacio Page, who was thrice submitted in the UFC and lost the title that got him into it to another of the competitors, winning it would be good fun. If only because Demetrious Johnson would biff him in about three seconds.

[John]

Donald Cerrone v Robbie Lawler all but confirmed for UFC 205. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's going to be fucking brilliant.

[Waffdon]

Cerrone knocked out in Round 1 will be a great laugh.

[John]

205 is their first show at MSG so I wouldn't be surprised if that fight ends up about third on the bill as well. They'll try to get McGregor in no doubt, and the timing would be about right for Dominick Cruz to defend although I'm not sure there's an obvious challenger at the moment.

[Waffdon]

Err, Cody Garbrandt surely?

[John]

Garbrandt had slipped my mind. He's about as good an option as they have. That, McNugget vs Eddie Alvarez, and Lawler vs Cerrone. Get it done, Shelby.

[Waffdon]

He looks a bit good, but then Cruz is also stupidly good at winning fights. That's a very nice card.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lawler has puled out of the Cerrone fight at 205 :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/10/12871250/elevator-incident-forces-c-b-dollaway-out-of-ufc-203

Dollaway is out of his fight tonight after getting a back injury whilst on a faulty lift :cab:

Cerrone offered to step in at light heavyweight to face his opponent :cool:

http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/cowboy-cerrone-offers-to-fight-at-ufc-203-at-less-than-24-hours-notice/85012

[Baz]

Mickey Gall doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. :D

[Mike]

What time will Punks fight be?

[Waffdon]

I'll guess at 3.30am. It's the second on the main card I think

[Mike]

I'll watch first thing and drop my jam on toast if Cult of Personality hits.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I obviously want CM Punk to lose badly but I also hate Mickey Gall after he wanted his ring walk music to be 'Mickey' by Toni Basil.

Glad that they told him to get fucked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.lowkickmma.com/News/nick-diaz-supposedly-negotiating-to-replace-robbie-lawler-at-ufc-205/

Rumours that Nick Diaz will replace Lawler to fight Cerrone at 205.

Woof.

[Chrissy]

Fuck it, I fancy Punk to win tonight.

Jojo Calderwood is someone i'm obviously going to back. Really excited bout seeing Overeem tonight.

[7om]

Could someone PM me a stream?

[Waffdon]

Tonight's card is boring as fuck. Heavyweights galore and Faber to dampen proceedings even more so

[Lewis]

I'll watch first thing and drop my jam on toast if Cult of Personality hits.

:cool:

[Lewis]

Not that I was ever a CM Punk fan. I just think fair play using his rasslin' theme.

[Lewis]

Well that was good.

[7om]

Holy shit, that was actually tough to watch.

[Lewis]

It's all well and good saying 'fair play mate giving it a go mate', but he's just embarrassed himself.

[Gray Fox]

I was hoping he'd give a good account of himself. That was a hard watch though. I'm not even sure he got any offense in at all.

[Lewis]

Has he just become their Bo Dallas?

[Gray Fox]

He says he's giving it another go so I guess we all have to BOlieve.

[7om]

Two years of training for that. I could have gone in there now and laid on the floor and got splatted.

[Lewis]

My friend was/is a massive mark for CM Punk, so I used to say that he wasn't a credible champion because I could have him. Well...

[John]

Gall could have pounded him out with little to no effort, but I like that he went for the sub. CM Punk doing that was basically the same as James Toney with his daft sojourn into MMA.

Most people aren't Brock Lesnar.

Just watching the rest of the event now. That jumping kick from Werdum as soon as the fight started was great, but Browne was moving as though he wanted to touch gloves so Werdum can fuck off, the sneaky shit.

The state of Werdum after the fight. That kick he threw at Browne's cornerman should see him cut if they're consistent.

That title fight was quality. Miocic's chin is questionable as always, but he recovered well there. I reckon Cain will murder him if he can get fully fit again, but he's great fun to watch.

[Mike]

Punks entrence was boss. Was down hill after that. He just sprinted at Gall and got battered.
Nice speech after I guess.

:cool:
Jam everywhere!

[Baz]

Says a lot that the best part about the Werdum fight was in the opening five seconds, and then after the fight. So dull, and deserved the boos. Werdum's cryface made up for it though.

CM Punk got battered. Gall seemed like he'd just learnt swearwords. He should twat Northcutt though. Loved that he called him corny. :D

Miocic was awesome. Great fight, great post-fight interview. "He kicks hard as fuck," haha. I really don't like Overeem.

[Shindig]

CM Punk's run's going to be real weird. He either has a moment in the sun or he hangs around as a draw for Dana until one gets pissed off at the other.

[7om]

John, what did you make of Overeem's performance?

I thought he looked good with his first takedown but after that he seemed to fall apart. Swinging like he was drunk and actually running away several times. Pis he a bit of a nutcase or something, because even the commentators seemed surprised.

[Gray Fox]

Did you watch Overeems interview after the fight? He was adamant there was a tap out from Stipe when he got the choke on him. So Rogan asked them to play the replay. Not a tap in sight :D

To be fair to Overeem, this was a few seconds after they had to drag him back to his feet. So he probably wasn't all there.

[John]

John, what did you make of Overeem's performance?

I thought he looked good with his first takedown but after that he seemed to fall apart. Swinging like he was drunk and actually running away several times. Pis he a bit of a nutcase or something, because even the commentators seemed surprised.

He has an atrocious chin and was fighting a heavy hitter, it's no surprise that he turned tail the minute it looked like there might be an exchange.

Just as Overeem was sinking the choke in Miocic tries to grab his arm, misses, then grabs it properly. Presumably that's where Overeem felt a tap.

[Waffdon]

Pretty shite event as expected. The heavyweights are fucking awful.

[John Arne]

Can somebody with a bit more knowledge of MMA tell me why in this instance Menjivar didn't just drop on his back as hard as possible?

I get not wanting to give your opponent your back on the floor, but surely that's preferable to just being chocked out whilst standing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6k03bhmk0

[John]

Can somebody with a bit more knowledge of MMA tell me why in this instance Menjivar didn't just drop on his back as hard as possible?

I get not wanting to give your opponent your back on the floor, but surely that's preferable to just being chocked out whilst standing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6k03bhmk0

Missed this post before. It's easier to escape that choke from a standing position than from on your back, particularly when your opponent already has a body triangle in place, but when it's in as deep as that one is when he taps you're done either way.

If he throws himself to the ground there best case scenario is Faber loses his grip on his own arm and quickly regains it in a more dominant position. Worst case scenario is the momentum drives Faber's arm into his eosophagus and does some genuine harm.

There was probably a point earlier in the sequence where just dropping to his back would have been the right move. As you say though, he wouldn't want to give up his back on the mat and completed standing submissions are rare enough that I doubt they're a real concern until you're in one.

Is that the video you're watching or just the only one you could find to depict the fight? I don't have a clear recollection of that fight and I'd like to watch the events leading up to that sub.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

LiveLastingFoxterrier

So fucking good.

Also, lol at him kicking Edmond. I'm sure most people would love to do that, he's such a fucking cunt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Here's why he booted Edmond.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMECawNH6Wk

[John]

He's still a prick and he should still have been binned. Paul Daley was cut and banned for life for basically the same thing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's still a prick and he should still have been binned. Paul Daley was cut and banned for life for basically the same thing.

Oh I agree.

Mental that he wont be punished at all.

Apparently Conor will be facing Eddie Alvarez at 205.

[John]

I called that one weeks ago. Eddie Alvarez should really take his head clean off, but after that Diaz fight I'll rule nothing out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently Cyborg (female) has to cut another 24 pounds before her weigh in which is on Friday.

That seems fucking mental.

Clearly she needs to hire a better nutritionist.


"In this camp, my nutrition coach, he starts giving to me birth control, and I never take this in my life, and I take this three months, every day," Justino said. "My coach says it will be good for me, I believe in him, and, man I fly from America to Brazil 168 pounds. My body will hold more water than normal, and I don't think this will really help my body."

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I called that one weeks ago. Eddie Alvarez should really take his head clean off, but after that Diaz fight I'll rule nothing out.

Now Dana has made a u-turn and it's going to be Khabib.

[Waffdon]

Khabib will never lose. He'll beat himself with his training regimes. No idea who mcgregor faces if he's not fighting at LW.

Cracking card for the purist but McGregor fighting is the only way this breaks Ppv records

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Alvarez-vs-Nurmagomedov-Targeted-for-UFC-206-After-UFC-205-Bout-Falls-Through-111459

206 for Khabib/Eddie now as Alvarez did not return the bout agreement by the deadline set.

[John]

From what looked like being an absolutely stonking card at one point, UFC 205 now looks a bit limp.

Frankie Edgar vs Jeremy Stephens headlining, with Kelvin Gastelum replacing Lawler in the Cerrone fight and Rashad Evans vs Tim Kennedy as the co-main.

EDIT - Forget that, apparently Stephen Thompson vs Tyron Woodley will be added. That's a passable card, albeit not the screamer they'd want to launch New York.

[Waffdon]

That's turned to shit real quickly. Woodley/Thompson will be alright but fuck me. New owners must be fuming at Dana.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's also Yoel Romero/Weidman which should be brilliant.

They've just added Joanna against Karolina for the title too. Forget Champion v Champion matches which never actually happen, we've got Poland v Poland :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's now been officially confirmed that Alvarez will fight Conor at 205 which will headline the card.

Khabib is pissed.

780628358593912832

[Waffdon]

Lmao. Poor guy - all about them Ratings. McGregor's going to break it for the third PPV running :cool:

Three title fights? Shit should be good.

[Waffdon]

McGregor/Alvarez
Weidman/Romero
Thompson/Woodley
Joanna/Karolina
Tate/Pennington
Cerrone/Gastelum
Edgar/Stephens
Tim/Evans
Jim/Alves

Murmurs of them working on Khabib/Johnson too. That undercard...

£2m buys incoming.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/09/interim-champ-jose-aldo-wants-ufc-contract-terminated-after-alvarez-vs-mcgregor-booking

Aldo has requested that his contract be terminated after the UFC made the Conor/Alvarez fight and didn't vacate the featherweight title.

[John Arne]

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/09/interim-champ-jose-aldo-wants-ufc-contract-terminated-after-alvarez-vs-mcgregor-booking

Aldo has requested that his contract be terminated after the UFC made the Conor/Alvarez fight and didn't vacate the featherweight title.

Does seem strange that the UFC would let him keep it for almost 1yr without defending - what is the precedent here? I would have thought that there would be time limit set on these things (with exceptions for unusual circumstances).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only once has it been stripped for inactivity. Frank Mir after he had a bike accident, they took it after a year out.

[John]

This isn't inactivity though, it's holding the title hostage while he goes off to another weight class to indulge his ego.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well yeah but inactivity is the closest to it I guess. It's mental really.

Dana has said that if he wins he'll have to give one of the belts up. It's all just pandering to him to try and make him be the first to hold two at once.

[John]

There isn't much of a precedent, really, and inactivity rules are inconsistent enough that there's no point trying to parse them for this situation. Cain held the belt for not far off two years without defending having only actually defended it twice before that, and there was never even the threat of him being stripped, but Mir was stripped of the same belt after a year.

It does seem a bit soon for Aldo to be begging for release, but then I suppose if he feels like he lost to a flash knockout and would biff McGregor in a follow up it must be hard to stomach watching the prick go off and make eleventy billion dollars in the year you're stuck waiting for what should have been an immediate rematch. He'd defended the belt seven times, more if you include the WEC belt that transferred, so the fact that he didn't get an immediate rerun is a bit of a disgrace in itself.

[Disco]

Their rules seem slightly wooly exactly for this purpose, so they can promote who/how they want.

[Waffdon]

He got knocked out in 13 seconds. He can fuck off if he thinks he's due an immediate rematch. Just another desperate man wanting the McGregor dollar

[John]

Do be sensible, Waff.

[Waffdon]

A serial pull out artist. Pulled out of something like 6/11 fights. He'll get his belt back once McGregor has the LW title and it can go back to being in the undercard

[John]

The extent to which you covet that man's willy is ridiculous.

[Waffdon]

I do admire him, aye. Haha. He'll vacate the FW so I see no problem at all. The card does look fkn special though. It'd have been a disgrace if Weidman was left out.

[Waffdon]

"Who the fuck is that" is what Jeremy Stephens is going to hear for the rest of his career.

[John]

From idiots and non-fans, primarily.

[John]

How much power do we reckon Dan Henderson has lost since the last time he fought Bisping?

I fancy him to win by relatively early knockout and immediately retire.

[John]

I remember him looking alright on whichever Ultimate Fighter it was, but Davey Grant has looked properly good in this fight. He's made a few daft mistakes but generally he's looked at home. Surprising.

EDIT - That was fucking lightning. Superb stuff.

[John Arne]

Well, that was scrappy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37638699

Rousey will make her comeback against Nunes at 207.

I can see her losing tbh.

[Waffdon]

Fair fucks to Bisping recovering after them two brutal punches. That division is legit

[Dark Soldier]

GSP's lawyers have terminated his UFC contract:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/georges-st-pierre-announces-his-contract-with-the-ufc-is-terminated.3372673/

Bit of a fuck up if so.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bellator will end up paying him like $10m a fight.

[John]

He'll stay a free agent until after the Alvarez fight, at which point McGregor will agitate for him as a money fight and they'll both make an outlandish sum of money for a fight in Ontario.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/11/7/13552230/jon-jones-suspended-one-year-by-usada-for-doping


They found that his fault was "at the top end of the scale," because the only questions Jones asked about the particular tablet was toward the teammate who gave it to him and whether or not it was effective from a sexual-performance standpoint.

Played.

[Waffdon]

Feel awful for both Khabib or Ferguson as one of them is going to be missing out on another title shot. Didn't even realise Ferguson was on a nine fight winning streak.

[Waffdon]

I really like Thompson but he seems a tad overpriced. Woodley doesn't seem to be getting much love. What a fkn night it is going to be

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/11/kelvin-gastelum-announces-ufc-205-fight-with-donald-cerrone-is-off

:face:

Alves was also 162.6 for his lightweight fight against Jim Miller but that appears to be on still.

[John Arne]

"It won't happen again" would mean a lot more if this wasn't the third time already. What a gimp.

[Waffdon]

Fool misses it all the time. Absolutely ridiculous. Like Cerrone said in an interview, he could have got in contact and Cerrone could have blown up in weight so they were within 7 lbs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can see him and Alves getting cut.

[Waffdon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1528NypvXQ

Helwani is the best interviewer/journalist going today.

[Disco]

I have a lovely Aceplayer link for this if anyone else is watching.

[John]

Tate calling it a day is a bit of a surprise.

[Waffdon]

Absolutely stunning. Get the lines out

[John]

McGregor made Alvarez look a bit silly at times in that fight.

I've said it before, but there's a whiff of Anderson Silva in the confidence McGregor shows when he's in full flow.

[John Arne]

McGregor wanting equity in the UFC... Then buy some shares, knobhead. People aren't just going to give you shares in a company just because you are fighting for them.

As entertaining as he is (as a fighter and "product"), the UFC will survive without him, and he doesn't come across well demanding that the UFC give him shit for free or he leaves.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally watched it, such a lovely knockout to win it.

He looked absolutely stunning.

Romero KO was brilliant too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/11/17/13663352/conor-mcgregor-ppv-buys-record-ronda-rousey-ufc-205-biggest-draw-fighter-ever

Pretty crazy.

[Baz]

Finally watched it, such a lovely knockout to win it.

He looked absolutely stunning.
Same. Wow!

I loved the sincerity in his 'you're welcome' when Joe Rogan told him it was an honour to call his fights. What a man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Daniel Cormier has picked up an injury so he's out of 206.

As such the UFC seem to really be pushing to make Pettis vs Holloway for the Interim Featherweight title at 206. That would mean that Conor is stripped with Aldo bneing promoted to full Champion.

[Waffdon]

AKA have been an absolute fkn shambles with injuries. All three of their main guys now pulled out this year. Happy for Max Halloway but Aldo becoming champ is annoying.

Far too many interim belts.

[Spammer]

When is 206?

Might download it and get into watching this stuff. Looks fun.

[Waffdon]

December 9th I think. They should probably change it to a Fight Night card as there isn't much going for it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/12/3/13828918/mma-video-gerald-harris-slam-ko-overweight-opponent-final-legacy-fc-show

Legacy fighter weighs in 50 pounds overweight and gets knocked out, lol.

[John]

Cub Swanson vs Doo Ho Choi. :drool:

Absolute mayhem.

[John]

Cerrone vs Matt Brown is also fucking quality.

[Dark Soldier]

Cub Swanson vs Doo Ho Choi. :drool:

Absolute mayhem.

Fuck. Yes. Fight of the year easily.

[John]

Fuck. Yes. Fight of the year easily.

The fucking chin on Choi. He must have eaten about ten shots that would have knocked anyone else unconscious.

[Dark Soldier]

That barrage in round 3 I think it was, where Swanson smashed him with about six big shots in a row and five seconds later Choi looked like he'd barely been touched. Guy's legit.

[John]

It was like Sanchez v Melendez at times, only more technical.

Barring a brutal knockout win I don't think Choi's stock could have risen much more with a win than it has anyway. There must be something in the Korean constitution that makes them impervious to damage. The Korean fighters who spring immediately to mind, Choi, Zombie, and Soehee Ham, are all fucking wild and basically impossible to stop. Chan Sung Jung needed to dislocate his shoulder then be kicked in said shoulder about six times by one of the most vicious kickers in the sport before he gave up, for fuck sake.

Speaking of Zombie, his return from national service is confirmed for February, against Dennis Bermudez. That should be good.

[Waffdon]

Yeah, that PPV ended up being pretty great. Two sensational knockouts.

Holloway is so good.

[Disco]

That barrage in round 3 I think it was, where Swanson smashed him with about six big shots in a row and five seconds later Choi looked like he'd barely been touched. Guy's legit.

Just watched it and the guy must have a face made of iron.

[John]

They nailed eachother with about five or six crackers a piece early in round two as well and both just carried on. It's the sort of fight you'd show to someone who doesn't watch MMA if you wanted them to see what it can be.

[Chrissy]

One of the best PPV's of the year for me. Swanson vs Choi was just a savage encounter. Loved Cerrone's ko win as well. Holloway is well on his way to becoming a big name in his own right. Emil Meek looked the part as well.

[John]

Khabib vs Tony Ferguson for an interim Lightweight belt, apparently.

Conor McGregor has never actually defended a belt. Not fought and lost, he's just never actually stepped into a ring to defend his belt. What a travesty that such a complete fucking flump gets to claim a first.

[Dark Soldier]

But he's got personality! That's all that matters!

[Disco]

It's a testament to how good he his at pulling Dana's pants down, he puts so many bums on seats that he can basically do whatever he wants. And if what he wants to do is (for want of a better term) build a 'brand' then the sporting obligations are the first thing to ignore.

[John]

The sooner he fucks off to WWE the better. He's a dynamite fighter but there's too much fucking about and he seems almost constitutionally unable to risk losing a belt by conventional means. Much better just to fuck off and then shout about still being the champ when it's inevitably taken off you.

[Baz]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tZT5SzhoqrQ/S3sbInisPsI/AAAAAAAAAI0/hAtL5_nPfY0/s320/ricflair.c010.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/12/20/14035496/jose-aldo-expects-interim-lightweight-title-bout-will-be-announced-soon-ufc-mma-news

:cab:

Imagine if he becomes a two weight champion without actually beating the champion (Conor) in either division.

It's bonkers.

[John]

I like the old maxim 'you're not the champion until you've defended your title' when it comes to combat sports, so I'd love that. He should definitely be made to fight Holloway before any other plans are made, but if what he's said there is true they've obviously decided he's the man McGregor should fight after he's done being a househusband and they need to get a wiggle on to set that up.

[Waffdon]

Aldo fighting McGregor at 155 :D

[Waffdon]

Hoping Ronda Rousey is taken apart ala Holly Holm. Cruz should be able to dance his way to victory once again.

[Baz]

Is it a good card? Will no doubt have it on in the background.

[Waffdon]

It's tomorrow not Saturday. On paper the card is pretty good but we'll see. A few predicable fights.

Hendricks missed weight again lol

[Waffdon]

Cody on points is the last thing I'd have predicted. Fuck sake. Mon le Nunes

[Waffdon]

Nunes :cool:

[Queenslander]

200k to the champ is so fucked.

[Smiffy]

.....

[John]

Rousey was obviously trying to prove Holm was a fluke and that she could mix it with a striker.

Cody Garbrandt looked dynamite.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I haven't watched it yet but lol at Ronda.

It was pretty clear she was going to lose after the Holm KO and then the whole bullshit circus following it.

The fact that the UFC were coddling her too is a disgrace.

[Shindig]

To be fair, she did think about offing herself after her last defeat.

[Waffdon]

Cody Garbrandt really was incredible there against the best 135lb ever. Incredible stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've sacked Goldberg (awesome) and replaced him with Todd Grisham who is a former WWE comentator.

This is on his Wiki page:

Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards

Worst Television Announcer - 2004 and 2006

I always hated him.

[Waffdon]

Fuck sake. He always fucked up but him and Rogan were just so good together.

[Baz]

Cody Garbrandt really was incredible there against the best 135lb ever. Incredible stuff.Yep. Didn't even getting annoying because he was so brilliant despite the arrogance. :cool:

[John]

Khabib vs Tony Ferguson for an interim lightweight belt confirmed for UFC 209, the same card as the Woodley vs Thomson rematch. :drool:

That should be a stonking show, with Mark Hunt punching Overeem's chin up into the arena lights serving as a lovely third banana.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/1/19/14331994/ex-strikeforce-heavyweight-brett-rogers-charged-with-three-counts-of-sexual-misconduct

lol.

[John]

'Best known for fighting Fedor Emelianenko'.

Nope. Many, many more people will have seen him when he was in EliteXC, in the first fight on the first ever card to go on a big American network.

He did smash Fedor up for a round though, which with hindsight was obviously because Fedor was fading a bit rather than that he was going to be a superstar, but ten knockout wins on the bounce will get the hype train moving. I think it was the fight immediately preceding Fedor getting strangled to death and his arm pulled off by Werdum.

[Baz]

Phew, that Paul Daley KO was something special, huh?

Glad to see Tito finish his career with a solid win.

[John]

I've never liked Tito Ortiz, but there's a certain poetry in him knocking off a name to end his career right before his birthday. His run after Chuck Liddell zapped him for a second time was worse than someone who'd been so good deserved.

Paul Daley is a huge twat, but the knockout was great.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Romero/Bisping to be made when Bisping recovers from his knee surgery.

[Baz]

Chris Eubank Jr was on Radio 1xtra today saying he's the man to make the boxing MMA crossover, that Conor McGregor is so desperate for Mayweather to do, based on the fact his dad sent him to jiujitsu classes when he was nine. :arry:

[John]

If he's actually any good at BJJ with that boxing ability he'd be a proper force, but I suspect he just doesn't grasp the level difference between say a blue belt and a properly high level black belt. He'd need to stop all that ducking in and letting punches glance off his forehead too or someone would just kick his head off.

[John]

Zombie. :drool:

[Baz]

Curtis Blaydes. :drool:

Even his name is badass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Irish Sun have claimed that terms have been agreed for McGregor against Mayweather and there seems to be some fire behind that smoke. Lots of places are picking up on it now including the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/02/14/conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather-reportedly-come-to-terms-on-a-mega-fight/?utm_term=.abb90a00f1ae

[John Arne]

I like both UFC and Boxing, but I'm no expert... however, surely if this is a boxing match, Mayweather will win hands-down, equally, if this is a MMA fight - McGregor will win easily.

Barring some exceptionally lucky shot (by Mayweather in an MMA fight) - this will surely be a complete non-contest.

[John]

That's exactly what anyone who knows anything about both sports has been saying since it was first mooted. The only issue I can see for Floyd in a boxing match is his age catching up with him.

[Baz]

Mayweather has more chance of winning in MMA (1%) than McGregor winning in boxing (0%) because Mayweather is hands down the best of the planet, whereas McGregor's mouth is better than his skill.

[John Arne]

I guess the best thing the public can do is to not pay for the PPV. Unfortuantely, I don't see that happening.

Once you get a license to box (which I think McGregor got last year), will the NSAC sanction any fight - or do they consider relative skill? For example, would they consider allowing Mayweather to fight against someone making their debut in professional boxing?

[Waffdon]

Mayweather has more chance of winning in MMA (1%) than McGregor winning in boxing (0%) because Mayweather is hands down the best of the planet, whereas McGregor's mouth is better than his skill.

Eh? McGregor would kill him if it was an MMA fight. McGregor clearly would have the better chance of an upset. Not that he will.

[John Arne]

I think the point Baz is making is that Mayweather may be able to land something before McGregor presumable takes him to the ground. I'm with Baz, it's probably something like 0.5% McGregor in boxing and 1% Mayweather in MMA.

[John]

I guess the best thing the public can do is to not pay for the PPV. Unfortuantely, I don't see that happening.

Once you get a license to box (which I think McGregor got last year), will the NSAC sanction any fight - or do they consider relative skill? For example, would they consider allowing Mayweather to fight against someone making their debut in professional boxing?

They won't just sanction anything, but when it's someone with a high level fighting background they're not going to treat him the way they would any nugget getting their first boxing match. Fame and money play a part too obviously, but for example they probably wouldn't let Tom Cruise get in there and fight Mayweather.


Eh? McGregor would kill him if it was an MMA fight. McGregor clearly would have the better chance of an upset. Not that he will.

I don't think Mayweather would even be able to throw punches at full power in MMA gloves, he's been breaking his hands in big puffy boxing gloves for years. So even if he did get the chance to throw, which he would because that pleb isn't going to go in and wrestle him, it wouldn't be the punch that wiped out Hatton. Whereas if McGregor lands something clean on Floyd in a boxing match, as vanishingly unlikely as that is unless age is a massive factor, it would be with that nuclear missile he keeps under his left glove.


I think the point Baz is making is that Mayweather may be able to land something before McGregor presumable takes him to the ground. I'm with Baz, it's probably something like 0.5% McGregor in boxing and 1% Mayweather in MMA.

You're as wrong as Baz is, for the above reasons.

[John Arne]

That makes sense.

[Disco]

Tom Cruise would absolutely get a licence, he has the only two prerequisites required. Money and a pulse.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

GSP is officially back with the UFC.

Word is that his first fight will either be winner of Thompson/Woodley or Bisping.

[John]

Yoel Romero has started a GoFundMe page to pay for the medical bills he anticipates Michael Bisping will have after their fight, so he'll look like a proper twat if he doesn't get it.

From this weekend;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmgMuBmyYAg

How thoroughly fucking satisfying.

[Queenslander]

:lol:

[John]

Stoppage in the Lewis v Browne fight last night was three or four seconds and at least five brutal punches late.

Also, the new UFC commentator who's replaced Goldberg used the non-word 'behemothness' in relation to Derrick Lewis, which should see his employment immediately revoked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/2/22/14701890/ufc-vet-seriously-injured-after-leaping-into-traffic-mma-news


Ex-UFC fighter Terry Etim was hospitalized on Wednesday after eyewitnesses reported that he threw himself against multiple vehicles in the Old Swan region of Liverpool, England, which is Etim’s hometown. The Liverpool Echo has the details on what is a truly troubling story,

It appeared he threw himself against as many as four vehicles, including three single-decker Stagecoach and Arriva buses. All except one were believed to be stationary at the time.

He was eventually restrained by police and taken to hospital. His condition was this evening described as serious.

Fucking hell.

[Baz]

My mates in Team KAOBON and he's temporarily deactivated all his social media. Too many people asking questions probably. I only realised cos I was gonna ask him if he'd heard. :baz:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/03/georges-st-pierre-return-official-will-fight-champ-michael-bisping-for-ufcs-middleweight-title

GSP to face Bisping for the Middleweight title.

Also, this was lovely by Diego Brandao:

http://i.giphy.com/26xBB58iuOIIcQJI4.gif

[John]

Khabib vs Tony Ferguson is off because that wanker Khabib couldn't weigh in.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ugh.

[Waffdon]

Pre lims last night were incredibly good. That main event was cancerous though.

[Waffdon]

Edson Barboza is such a fun fighter. Lightweight division must be the best by an absolute mile.

edit: in saying that, probably a bit harsh on the WW.

[Waffdon]

Really looking forward to Mousasi this weekend. Hoping DC is knocked out but it'll go like the first fight. His head is a fucking brick.

[John]

Cormier fluffed his weigh in and wound up coming in bang on the limit two minutes before the deadline. I wouldn't be surprised if he can't push his usual pace, but it shouldn't matter with Rumble breathing out his arse after three minutes. Jon Jones reckons Cormier pushed down on the modestly towel to offset some of his weight and make the limit, and said it's 'one of the dirtiest things' he's ever seen in sport.

Rather looking forward to both the main and co-main tonight. In fact every fight on the main card has something to recommend it with the exception of Cynthia Calvillo and Pearl Gonzalez, and even that has the remote possibility of a Chyna style popped tit implant.

[John]

Cummins' moustache. :D

He might have a worse chin than Overeem.

[John Arne]

Cormier fluffed his weigh in and wound up coming in bang on the limit two minutes before the deadline. I wouldn't be surprised if he can't push his usual pace, but it shouldn't matter with Rumble breathing out his arse after three minutes. Jon Jones reckons Cormier pushed down on the modestly towel to offset some of his weight and make the limit, and said it's 'one of the dirtiest things' he's ever seen in sport.


The weigh in was bizarre. Cormier was something like 1.2lbs over... went away for 3 minutes, came back and weighed dead level. Rumble then came in and weighed 1.2lbs under (the insinuation being that the scales had been tampered with).
The towel thing looked dodgy too - but I'm not sure whether that would actually work.

[John]

The margins being exactly the same is a bit suspect.

Alves looked properly good there. I loved him when he was on his original rise to the GSP fight so hopefully he can get back to something like that sort of form.

[John]

How the Dickens has Eddie Alvarez wound up on the prelims at 211?

It's difficult to judge how good Calvillo actually is given how crap Tits Gonzalez looked, but she dominated that.

I wonder why Weidman thinks beating Mousasi will get him a title shot. He's lost two on the bounce going back about eighteen months, he should be winning at least three before he gets a look in.

[John]

What a shambles.

Joe Rogan having a pop at the ref when it took him about ten replays to work out what went on is excellent. Twat.

[John]

The producers have been terrible tonight. Showing the same corner on both sides of the split screen, putting the wrong round on graphics, and just now showing Rumble's information twice.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://wmmarankings.com/deep-jewels-15-12-year-old-momo-set-make-mma-debut-24-year-old-may-20/

:cab:

Fucking hell.

[John Arne]

Deep Jewels sounds like a right wrong 'un website.

[Spammer]

Anyone hear heard of Anthony Holmes? Apparently he was on the telly doing this shit and was unbeaten. I was chatting to his missus today.

[John]

BAMMA is live on Dave now. Apparently one of the bouts will feature some roaster from Geordie Shore who weighed in fifteen pounds over, but there are also a couple of title fights.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

GSP/Bisping fight has been cancelled.

GSP told the UFC that he wouldn't be ready until October so they booked it for July to try and force him into it. He's standing still and the UFC aren't, thank fuck, going to hold the division for so long. Romero is going to step in but no date has been set yet.

[John]

Gastelum v Anderson Silva is off too. Gastelum's win against Belfort has been overturned and he's sworn never to fight in Brazil again.

Not particularly familiar with either of these main eventers but I've immediately taken to McDermott. He seems fun.

[John]

:cool: Fuck off Klaus.

That was great.

[John]

I'd missed the UFC signing up Justin Gaethje. He'll probably drop his debut, as highly touted fighters from other promotions always do, but 17-0 with 14 knockouts is a hell of a record and from what I've seen he looks like a proper force.

[Waffdon]

Great fight but more controversy with knees. Yay.

Alvarez should have been DQ'd.

[Waffdon]

JDS, Jędrzejczyk, Maia, Rodríguez and Jotko.

Not really bothered about who wins other than Maia.

[Waffdon]

Jesus that eye was fucking horrific.

[Waffdon]

Andrade's chin is ridiculous . Absolute maniac.

[Baz]

863592542800977921

[John]

Bellator 179 is starting now on channel 5.