UFC thread

[John]

Usual places for me is just firstrow. :uhoh:

I bookmarked Mahow's reddit link for the football though! I have BT already, John. What do I do?

BT Sport 2. It's about to start there now.

I'm assuming you meant you had BT TV, rather than just using them for your phone or whatever.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Gray Fox]

Is every UFC event live on BT? This is the first time I've noticed it on there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is every UFC event live on BT? This is the first time I've noticed it on there.

Near enough.

Wasn't last week as it was in England so they put it only on the UFC's online service.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Those side elbows were excellent.

[Gray Fox]

That KO was beautiful. Out cold before he hit the floor.

[Disco]

Dammit I thought the McGregor fight was at 3, I'll have to watch it tomorrow instead.

[Gray Fox]

The main card is only just starting. You're looking at 5am for Conor.

[Disco]

So I gathered from further up the page, I looked at the schedule and assumed Main Event meant that fight not the main card.

[phonics]

Wait they have fights after the main event? Wait are we seriously looking at 6am?

[Gray Fox]

The main card is starting right now.

4 fights between that and Conor getting in the ring. If most of these go the distance we're looking at 5 to 5:30. There'll be no fights after that.

[John Arne]

Hmm... The TV channel has just gone blank. Fucking great.

Cung Le isn't fighting, is he?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He retired 2 years ago.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fair play to Shevchenko for refusing to tap, that jaw crank was tight.

Shevchenko left it far too late to really start.

[John Arne]

He retired 2 years ago.

It's back!!

[John Arne]

How on earth did two judges have that 30-27? 29-27, just.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think Miesha takes this.

I can see her taking Holly down constantly and pummelling her.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a round for Cupcake.

[Gray Fox]

I really thought she had it then.

[Waffdon]

Absolutely cunted here but any mobile links?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought she had it too, she did manage to get under the chin for a brief moment.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Holly up by 1 (with Tate taking the second round 10-8) for me right now.

Miesha needs a finish.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell, what a fucking finish that was.

[Gray Fox]

What a fucking move that was. Proper death grip.

[John Arne]

Duck yeah.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i.imgur.com/G8BqFy3.png

:drool:

Had a couple of losers earlier but this does me right. Still have £25 on McGregor to win in round 1 with the stake refunded if it loses.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That film looks like trash.

A first person action film? Ugh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The left is there all day for McGregor.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck :(

[John]

I said I didn't want it but fuck me, when that was sunk in I was off the couch.

[phonics]

hahahahahahahahaah

That's so good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Would be nice to see a shot of Dana as Nate sunk it in though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at BT putting up that advisory.

It's 6am during a combat sport event ffs.

[Gray Fox]

I'm gutted by that. Not by the result, but I checked up on Diaz to win by submission in the 2nd round yesterday. I could have had it at 25/1 too. Thought Conor would have it.

That's what happens if you don't block though.

[John Arne]

That was great, McGregor never recovered from that one shot.

[John Arne]

I won a pint, too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought Diaz would have been worse than this if he won.

[Waffdon]

That was pretty great ngl.

Back to donning the midgets conor son

[Waffdon]

We can lol at Dana at least.

[Waffdon]

Offtt. Aldo has came out the woodwork again. Ufc 200 it seems

I can't see conor losing to anyone at 145

[John]

Facebook is good fun tonight. All the new fans McGregor has brought crying about the rules and saying it should have been stopped because Diaz was cut.

Chokes are for shitebags, apparently.

[Waffdon]

At least the plastic paddies will fuck off.

My twitter is full of arguments with pro mcgregor fans trying to bring science into it.

[John]

Not yet. If Aldo biffs him in the rematch they'll be gone.

[Queenslander]

http://i68.tinypic.com/23mmttg.jpg

Aldo has the worst fans.

[Baz]

I'm not surprised, motherfuckers.

:roflol:

[John]

http://i68.tinypic.com/23mmttg.jpg

Aldo has the worst fans.

McGregor has the worst fans, and by some distance.

[Dark Soldier]

Such a beautiful result. Get fucked, pikey cunt.

[QE Harold Flair]

Why do they persist with women fighting? Nobody cares.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They do, some of the better fights have involved women since they introduced them so get back in your box.

[QE Harold Flair]

I remember when they tried it with boxing. Doesn't work. The only reason people watch is to see women in tight clothes wrestling around. That's why that wench was posing nude everywhere.

[John Arne]

What are you talking about? It is clearly working.... Women's UFC fights are taking the top billing at events. It's actually happening now.

[John]

Don't bring your shit into this thread now too, Harold. If you want to push that agenda you can make a thread. You'll not ruin this one.

[Lewis]

I decided to watch the fight after reading about it, and 'Conor' looked fucked after about two minutes with that extra weight on him. Did people expect him to win in about a minute? Because I can't see how he could have planned for anything else.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The third most bought PPV for the UFC was 193.

Co-main event of Joanna taking on Valerie Letourneau and the main event being Rousey against Holm.

Yes, clearly women's MMA is failing...

Oh and it was the biggest attendance for a UFC event ever too.

[John]

I decided to watch the fight after reading about it, and 'Conor' looked fucked after about two minutes with that extra weight on him. Did people expect him to win in about a minute? Because I can't see how he could have planned for anything else.

He thought he was going to win in a minute. If he was fighting at Lightweight he'd have been about the same weight on fight night anyway only with the added stress of a cut so either he just isn't as good as everyone thought or he fucked his camp.

I honestly thought he would beat Diaz, with his patchy record and dropped fights to muppets, but it couldn't have worked out better. McGregor on top for just long enough to think he was Anderson Silva, then getting his chin punched off and made to quit. And Nate not being the conceited arse I expected in the aftermath topped it off nicely.

The photo of him turning up at the event makes the whole thing better.

http://i66.tinypic.com/b3tz89.jpg

What the fuck is that?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Looks like he's trying to pull this off:

http://www.animateit.net/data/media/feb2013/haters-gonna-hate.gif

Fucking hell.

[Lewis]

That sounds quite naive, since he can't possibly have developed his strength in any worthwhile manner. Why does he think weight classes exist?

[John]

He's been doing his strength training with him who plays The Mountain in Game of Thrones.

He bought into the hype enough to say he wanted to fight and win at every weight, so he obviously doesn't have a proper handle on classes. The UFC would have been itching for that to come true enough for them to market a McGregor v Jon Jones fight.

I'd have loved to see him fight someone like Rockhold. He'd have been killed.

[SincereTheRebel]

I understand they weigned in within a few pounds of each other, but how wide were the fight night weights

[John]

Neither cut anything, so the weights on the night were the same as on the scales.

[Henry]

Is the fight on YouTube or anything? Wouldn't mind giving it a watch.

As an uninformed observer, it certainly seems that McGregors reputation is based more on his mouth than his fists. Yeah, he's a good fighter, but the Aldo win was a bit of a freak. He's not Muhammed Ali Mark 2.

[Disco]

The main card will have been a PPV, I found a torrent yesterday for which you can have a link if you like.

[QE Harold Flair]

Oh and lol at the UFC allowing transexuals to fight as women. I can't wait until a man in a dress kills some woman. Then we will see how popular that decision is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They're not you mong.

There's one transgender MMA fighter and she fights for some other promotion.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Conor McGregor vs Nate rematch at UFC 200 apparently.

At welter again too, strange decision really.

[John Arne]

Yeah, that's weird.

Expect Nate to take it to the floor asap and just lean on McGregor.

[Waffdon]

That'll make numbers but not a fan.

[John Arne]

More importantly I can't believe they are letting a trans-male fight a 16yr old girl at UFC 199.

[John]

Bec Rawlings is straight out of Mad Max.

[John]

I reckon James Te Huna has a worse chin than Amir Khan.

[Waffdon]

Finally legal in New York.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shame it wasn't made legal a few months ago when they planned to have 197 in New York.

Wonder if the UFC would pull that match and put it on an event later in New York.

[John]

No chance. They'd rightly be crucified.

It's one thing if a fight gets binned on short notice because one of the fighters is hurt or fails a test or whatever, but the UFC just cancelling a fight they've already promoted to death so they can hold it elsewhere would be a shambles.

[Waffdon]

McGregor/Diaz confirmed. Absolute aids. He should be stripped of the 145 if he's just going to fanny about at welterweight.

He gets absolutely nothing out of this other than another huge payday.

[SincereTheRebel]

You can move up in weight for big fights. Avenging a loss and all that which is what these sports are all about these days. Im not sure how it works in UFC but you get stripped of a title if it isnt defended within a year in boxing, is that the same in UFC?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

McGregor/Diaz confirmed. Absolute aids. He should be stripped of the 145 if he's just going to fanny about at welterweight.

He gets absolutely nothing out of this other than another huge payday.

Well the co-main event at 200 is Aldo vs Edgar for the interim featherweight title.

So fucking stupid.

[John]

They're just indulging a Connor McGregor ego trip, and it's fucking bonkers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Daniel Cormier injured :sherlock:

Jon Jones to be pulled from 197 and they do the rematch in New York?

Or possibly even for 200.

[John]

Jones has said he still wants to fight at 197, at heavyweight if need be.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/jon-jones/report-ufc-offers-anthony-johnson-fight-with-jon-jones-at-ufc-197/

Rumble vs Jones is on the table :drool:

Make it fucking happen lads.

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The rep swiftly deleted the comment as it's not official but there are legs to it.

[John]

Rumble walks around about 240 so they'd have to make it at heavy. No chance he makes weight.

And if he crumbles Jones we can look forward to more 'he went up in weight' excuses.

I actually prefer that fight to Cormier v Jones. Rumble is probably the only fighter at light heavy with the power to shut Jones down.

[Baz]

Do you think Jonny Bones' "time off" will have a positive or negative impact on his fighting, if any?

[John]

A few people have said he's taking it all seriously for the first time ever, which is a scary thought if it isn't just bluster, but I doubt he can return after that length of time off and be at his best right away.

[Lemmo]

Ovince St. Preux for Jon Jones - He'll absolutely maul him.

[John]

Fucking wot.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh fuck off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's for an interim title too :cab:

[John]

Isn't the rule usually that an interim is created if the belt is inactive for a year? I know they've already blown that rule apart with the interim Featherweight so that McGregor can continue his sojourn up to Welter, but he's a rule unto himself at this point. Unless Cormier can't fight until November, which with a stated recovery time of six weeks tops seems quite unlikely, that's just a transparent attempt to set up the DC v JJ rematch as a unification bout rather than a standard title fight.

They're coming quite close to devaluing their own belts with all these interims.

[John]

This weekend's event is on tomorrow, with the prelims starting on BT at 5pm. That seems a seriously odd start time. I'm sure they showed it on tape delay the last time an event started that early UK time.

[Chrissy]

A few people have said he's taking it all seriously for the first time ever, which is a scary thought if it isn't just bluster, but I doubt he can return after that length of time off and be at his best right away.

GSP summed it up by saying the first round it's like fighting in a swimming pool, Takes a round to get you sharp.

[John]

You've mentioned that before but GSP has only really had one lengthy period out from which he's returned, so while he obviously knows what he's talking about I wouldn't take his word as gospel.

[John]

This Pokrajac v Blachowicz fight is quality.

[John]

Lol at this. Anik is asking the question in English, it's being translated into Polish for the fighter and Croatian for the crowd. Blachowicz answered in Polish, which was then translated into English for Anik and the Croatian translator who then translated the English back into Croatian for the crowd. Not sure I've seen a three way language barrier in UFC before.

EDIT - This Timothy Johnson bloke is a right fat idiot. Not even Roy Nelson sort of deliberate fat, he's just a flabby twat.

[John]

Ponzinibbio looks much better than last time I saw him. Hopefully he's making the jump because he's good fun to watch.

EDIT - As I say that he's gone absolutely mental and finished it. Lovely.

[John]

Five in a row.

Forgot how good the card for 197 was. The main event is probably the 4th most interesting fight on the card. Pettis v Barboza and Johnson vs Cejudo. :drool:

[Waffdon]

Conor McGregor has said he's retired on Twitter. No idea if trolling or not.

[Waffdon]

Seems as if it's true and has something to do with Joao Carvalho passing away. (he was at ringside)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's always so fun to watch Rashad Evans get knocked out.

[Chrissy]

McGregor pulled form UFC200 for refusing to promote. Diaz also claims he has retired. Feck.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Diaz was pissing about with his tweet, he's still going to fight at 200 against someone else.

It sounds like McGregor couldn't be arsed doing all the extra shit, they pulled him and so he's claimed he'll retire.

I imagine that Dana will brown nose a bit to make Conor come back, he'll get some more money and more power.

He definitely isn't retiring based on that death the other day as he's flown out to Iceland and been training since it happened.

[John]

The Aldo vs Edgar fight should just become an actual title fight if he wants to piss about. Take the title off him and let him have his strop.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.facebook.com/thenotoriousmma/posts/1260441947357435

I can see where he's coming from but at the end of the day he knows what the business is.

I think they'll get the fight back on.

[John Arne]

Yeah, agreed. He is right in wanting to focus, but when you sign up with someone like UFC, you agree to all the media shit.

[SincereTheRebel]

When you reach the mountain top (which i understand that he has), you then have to do all that extra promotion that comes with it. Losing and then wanting more time to focus is not an excuse. Sounds like he is on some sucker shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not the strongest opener for a season of The Ultimate Fighter but it has potential and there is no real early favourite.

[phonics]

I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.

Is the important part. If he was making Boxer promotions money, he'd do it but it's free so he won't. He's said for years he wanted to do his own fights like Mayweather but that can't/won't happen in UFC.

[John]

The promotional stuff is part of the fight contract, so he is being paid for it whether he sees it that way or not.

He's a petulant dick.

[Waffdon]

I fucking love him. I hope the fight doesn't happen, mind.

[Henry]

He probably realises that he can't beat Diaz and that taking the rematch was a stupid career move, so he's looking to get out of it by creating this fracas.

[John]

He demanded the rematch. It wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing is actually theatre.

[Disco]

This would be a very simple way of getting press coverage for the fight, it wasn't being covered this much before.

[John]

Demetrious Johnson is phenomenal.

[John Arne]

McGregor confirms that he is back on the card for UFC 200.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/25/conor-mcgregor-claims-back-on-ufc-200-card

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Demetrious Johnson is phenomenal.

Indeed, arguably the strongest opponent he has ever faced at flyweight and ends up polishing him off in his best ever display.

[John]

Cejudo being his best ever opponent was just part of the hype machine. He's good, but he hasn't finished a fight since before he entered the UFC and needed a split decision to get past Jussier Formiga. The A vs B vs C things don't always indicate anything, but Formiga was knocked out easily by both Dodson and Benavidez, both of whom I'd say were stronger challengers than Cejudo. Christ, Horiguchi was a better challenger.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/4/25/11503028/dana-white-conor-mcgregors-tweet-about-being-back-on-ufc-200-not-true

Dana says Conor isn't back on the card.

Fucking hell, this is beyond a joke now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

DC vs Jones to headline 200.

If Jones fights like he did against Ovince then Cormier will destroy him.

[John]

He won't fight like he did against Ovince. That was his tune up.

[Chrissy]

The promotional stuff is part of the fight contract, so he is being paid for it whether he sees it that way or not.

He's a petulant dick.

Agreed, part of the responsibility of carrying a strap is the media obligations.

[Waffdon]

DC vs Jones to headline 200.

If Jones fights like he did against Ovince then Cormier will destroy him.

Jones will win fairly easily.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/5/3/11582024/phoenix-jones-caros-fodor-booked-for-brother-vs-brother-fight-at-wsof

Ben Fodor aka 'Phoenix Jones' (he actually goes around the streets of Seattle dressed as a superhero attempting to stop crime, lol) and Carlos Foder (his older brother) are going to fight at WSOF 32.

I simply can't fathom how two brothers would be willing to fight in a MMA bout.

Also, Paige VanZant has pulled out of UFC 200 because of Dancing With the Stars...

[John]

They should sack her for that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've just seen 198's card, holy hell it looks good.

Hall vs Anderson Silva :drool:

[John]

Michael Page is fighting in London in July on a Bellator card, along with a Paul Daley vs Josh Koscheck rematch. I'd probably travel down for that if the headline fight didn't involve fucking Kimbo Slice.

[John Arne]

Just watched a quality fight in One FC - cute 19yr Singporean Angela Lee versus 5' 4", 34yr old Mei Yamguchi - lots of submission attempts, some massive stand up punches - the technique drifted towards the end - but a thoroughly entertaining 5 rounds. Oh, and it involved the first fanny submission I have seen - with Lee attempting a choke and just wrapping her legs around Yamaguchis neck and thrusting her in fanny in her face for a good 1 minute.

[Lewis]

How credible are these stories about Floyd Mayweather boxing Conor 'Conor' McGregor? You would think not very, since he would get absolutely embarrassed; but then the potential earnings would more than likely justify getting your head punched off, so you never know.

[John Arne]

Bullshit, surely. McGregor wouldn't last a round, I reckon.

[John]

Just watched a quality fight in One FC - cute 19yr Singporean Angela Lee versus 5' 4", 34yr old Mei Yamguchi - lots of submission attempts, some massive stand up punches - the technique drifted towards the end - but a thoroughly entertaining 5 rounds. Oh, and it involved the first fanny submission I have seen - with Lee attempting a choke and just wrapping her legs around Yamaguchis neck and thrusting her in fanny in her face for a good 1 minute.

How did Angela Lee look? She's being touted as a serious star in the making and there are rumours that the UFC are setting up an Atomweight division to get her in, but I haven't seen her fighting yet.


How credible are these stories about Floyd Mayweather boxing Conor 'Conor' McGregor? You would think not very, since he would get absolutely embarrassed; but then the potential earnings would more than likely justify getting your head punched off, so you never know.

About as credible as the ones where Ronda Rousey was going to fight Mayweather. He has a massive chip on his shoulder about MMA so whoever the most talked about fighter of the moment is he'll do what he can to undermine them, and part of that is always to say he'll smash them. Put them in a boxing ring and Mayweather annihilates him, put them in an MMA bout and McGregor wins in under a minute. It's so, so tedious.

[Shindig]

If he wanted an actual fight, he'd still be competing, This is basically all his post-career will be. He's too think to be a pundit.

[Disco]

Not for very long.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mayweather has become an MMA promoter (or is trying to become one), it's just all shuffling about to try and get some more interest in his first event, whenever it is, to try and make people wonder if he can compete with the UFC.

[John Arne]

How did Angela Lee look? She's being touted as a serious star in the making and there are rumours that the UFC are setting up an Atomweight division to get her in, but I haven't seen her fighting yet.


Hard to say - I've never seen the smaller women fighting in the UFC, so I can't really compare her with anyone. Technically she looks decent, good standing game and plenty of submission attempts - but she did get caught with a few overhand rights (from a midget), but to be fair she did survive a ground and pound attack at one point.

Her weakness appeared to be her strength - she would get a submission hold on (mostly chokes), but just didn't have the strength to force the submission (but she has tapped out 4 previous fighters).

Here is last nights fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmjMKp6PRg

[John]

There's noone in the UFC now to compare her to, they're in negotiations to have a couple of the smaller fighters from Strawweight drop but as it is the division doesn't exist yet.

If you're going to get caught by anything strong from someone significantly smaller than you it's going to be an overhand or a kick, so that's not really a mark against her. Mei Yamaguchi is a vastly more experienced fighter than both Angela Lee and anyone else she's fought, so it's possible she just defended it better, since there are subtle neck and shoulder movements you can make to stop a choke going in properly. She's tapped five previous opponents, by the way, but prior to that fight she'd fought debutants and nobodies with losing records. She was essentially on a boxing style record padding kick because she was seen a potential star, and it's worked.

As for Mayweather, he's been doing the same shit for years now so even if he is becoming a promoter, which I'll take with a pinch of salt until he puts on an event, this is probably still his old shit getting another airing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Atomweight isn't on the cards though is it?

I know that Flyweight could be, they've putting on Valerie Letourneau against Joanne Calderwood at Fight Night 89 in the first female Flyweight bout.

They have said they aren't launching that division yet but you'd have to imagine that it will be coming soon if they're putting on a fight.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Anderson needs surgery and wont face Uriah Hall at 198 :(

I think that was my favourite fight on the card.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Patrick Cummins should probably retire after being knocked out by a 53 year old little Nog.

Edit: What a knockout that was from Stipe, Werdum was clean out.

[John]

Wediman is out of UFC 199 with a herniated disc in his neck. Michael Bisping replaces him in the most pointless and predictable title fight perhaps ever.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mighty Mouse will face Wilson Reis at UFC 201.

I think that's a case of 'Who has Demetrious not beaten the crap out of yet?'

He'll mince Reis.

[John]

Jussier Formiga, who seems to have fought everyone in that division, beat him by decision. You'd think there has to come a time when the number of miles on MM's clock begins to show, like it did with Anderson Silva, or someone unheralded has just the right game to do him, like happened with Renan Barao, but he's only twenty nine and he's fought basically every combination of style and gameplan there is already.

I think he might be genuinely unbeatable at that weight. It sounded like sour grapes at the time, but I think Cejudo might have been right when he said Demetrious should move up a weight. Even there he's only ever been beaten twice, once when he was basically a child in MMA terms and still learning, and once by the current champion at that weight. He's tiny, but he's absolutely good enough to overcome a massive size disadvantage.

Speaking of people with too many miles on the clock, BJ Penn is coming out of retirement to fight at 199, in perhaps the most ill advised return since Royce Gracie. He was meant to be fighting Dennis Siver but his filming commitments on the Borrowers film have meant he's dropped out, so Cole Miller's taking his place. BJ Penn's last seven fights have been five losses, a win against the only man in the world older than him, and a majority draw where the only judge to actually make a decision scored it against him. Give it up, BJ. You were good, now you're not.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So an Italian MMA company decided to put on Jason 'Mayhem' Miller against Luke Barnatt for the Middleweight title. Sadly for them, Mayhem decided to weigh in 24 pounds over the limit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL--1xwPNXU

How does that even happen?

I like how he looks at the weight then decides that it must be the shorts.

[John]

Paddy Power are offering 16/1 on Bisping to win tonight. Rockhold is a better fighter and the size difference is quite laughable for two fighters competing at the same weight, but anything can happen in MMA and so odds that long are always worth a flutter.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Some rumblings that Brock Lesnar could be back for UFC 200.

Unless they've been working on a deal for months with him preparing to fight for 200 I don't see how that could even be feasible.

Also, considering what he said the last time the rumours started I really can't see it happening.

[John]

No chance Lesnar comes back without a huge and lengthy fanfare. If he is coming back, which won't happen, it'll be at 203 at the earliest.

I've been tipping a Poirier first round win to friends since that fight was made. For the sake of completion, the rest of tonight's winners will be Lombard, Holloway, Cruz, Rockhold. All by finish I reckon.

EDIT - I don't think I've ever seen a fight go from nothing to complete mayhem as quickly as that one did. It was nought to sixty in one punch.

Fucking hell. :| He's a hazard to the world.

[Gray Fox]

Diaz v McGregor 2 is at UFC 202. If Brock is coming back, putting him on that card would make crazy money.

[John]

That fight will draw a huge audience who'll already be tuning in to see a repeat of something that happened a few months ago, so putting someone whose health has failed them in the spotlight probably shouldn't be near the top of the agenda.

Holloway. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Lesnar is back at UFC 200.

[John]

I've heard that he's near to signing a deal for that event but I'm yet to read anyone credible saying it's a done deal. The event is too close for deals to be made be made now unless they're injury or suspension replacements, and Lesnar isn't a viable replacement for any of the 200 main cast for either of those reasons.

[Gray Fox]

They just announced it live. Opponent TBD.

https://gyazo.com/ed37b41a1b6d9580007ff83ca949bd7d.png

[John]

Aye, their Facebook tells me Lesnar will be back at 200 and the McGregor/Diaz rematch will take place at 202.

Two hilariously poor decisions.

[John]

You fucking beauty.

[Gray Fox]

Wow. I didn't see that coming. Get in.

[Baz]

Who do we reckon Brock will fight? Josh Barnett?

[Waffdon]

Slightly annoyed I ruined this for myself. I'll watch it in full later today. Pretty shocked.

[Gray Fox]

He'll face Mark Hunt. Wont be too great but will pull in the money.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If anyone missed it, watch the Polo Reyes/Dong Hyun Kim fight which was on the early prelims.

Fucking mental fight, up there with the Korean Zombie v Leonard Garcia fight.

I've also just found out that he's a different Dong Hyun Kim.

[Bob Sacamano]

Wediman is out of UFC 199 with a herniated disc in his neck. Michael Bisping replaces him in the most pointless and predictable title fight perhaps ever.

:happycry:

[John]

I'm delighted Bisping won. Absolutely delighted. I just didn't see it happening when the fight was made.

If you're up for it you could probably pull another ten hilariously incorrect predictions I've made in this thread, starting with me saying that Lombard would finish Henderson.

[Baz]

The Henderson finish was nasty. Probably worse than versus Bisping.

I know adrenaline must be hard to channel but Lombard was clearly out of it from the standing elbow.

Also RIP Kimbo Slice. His infamous backyard fight video is one of my most watched things ever. :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a hero Bisping is.

Hopefully he keeps it for a while now that's he gotten over the hump in big fights.

Also the whole card was fucking brilliant. Especially all the prelim fights.

[John]

Bosse v O'Connell last night was madness.

[Waffdon]

Rory's nose :(

[Bob Sacamano]

GSP Announces his return :happycry:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bosse v O'Connell last night was madness.
Indeed, shame that the main event was largely crap.

Oh and Cowboy :cool:

[John]

Indeed, shame that the main event was largely crap.

Oh and Cowboy :cool:

I enjoyed the main event. It wasn't the chaotic warfare the previews were trying to sell but then it was never going to be. A tactical striking battle with very occasional flurries was basically what I expected, and that's what happened.

Joanne Calderwood should definitely have seen a bonus. It wasn't the fight of the night, but she was fighting a girl whose last fight was for the title and the champion couldn't finish her, so I have no doubt that finish was more impressive than one nobody knocking out another nobody who's been away for five years.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.flocombat.com/article/42802-sources-zuffa-accepts-4-2-billion-bid-for-sale-of-ufc

Zuffa has accepted a $4.2 billion bid to sell the UFC.


FloCombat sources indicated that the majority of the money for the deal is coming from the Dalian Wanda Group and Tencent Holdings. But WME-IMG and the Kraft Group would act as the faces of the new ownership group, at least in North America.

Our sources reiterated once again that Dana White will be staying with the company. His current shares in Zuffa will be sold as part of the deal, but he will be granted new shares to stay on in his current promotion capacity. A new CEO will be selected to handle emerging international businesses; the name we were told is Garry Cook.

Garry Cook :face:

[John]

Garry Cook has been in charge of everything outside America for years now anyway.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

-Champ Daniel Cormier vs. interim champ Jon Jones – for undisputed light heavyweight title
-Mark Hunt vs. Brock Lesnar
-Champ Miesha Tate vs. Amanda Nunes – for women’s bantamweight title
-Jose Aldo vs. Frankie Edgar – for interim featherweight title
-Travis Browne vs. Cain Velasquez


PRELIMINARY CARD (FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET)
-Julianna Pena vs. Cat Zingano
-Kelvin Gastelum vs. Johny Hendricks
-Raphael Assuncao vs. T.J. Dillashaw
-Enrique Marin vs. Sage Northcutt


PRELIMINARY CARD (UFC Fight Pass, 6:30 p.m. ET)
-Joe Lauzon vs. Diego Sanchez
-Gegard Mousasi vs. Thiago “Marreta” Santos
-Takanori Gomi vs. Jim Miller

Woof.

[Chrissy]

The fox prelim card might eclipse the main card for good fights.

[Waffdon]

Press conference was just about Lesnar really. Owned it.

[John]

There's something seriously shady about his testing exemption. I reckon they knew they were going to bring him back at least as long ago as the original card announcement and just held off announcing him because they knew there was absolutely no chance he wasn't full of gear.

[Chrissy]

There's something seriously shady about his testing exemption. I reckon they knew they were going to bring him back at least as long ago as the original card announcement and just held off announcing him because they knew there was absolutely no chance he wasn't full of gear.

Aye, he'll be taking roids etc to help heal from injuries doing the ring ballet stuff. Part of the reason why CM Punk has taken so long to fight s that he's has a fuck tonne of lingering injuries from getting fucked about doing "prescripted" abuse.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/mark-hunt-claims-brock-lesnar-is-juiced-to-the-gills-on-drugs-but-hell-knock-him-out-anyway/news-story/c6c79e1a4ad3c898f9532b30505e0095?nk=d6a36475784052 6542d376fac4c9ef94-1467373685

Hunt is great.

I see him knocking out Brock 'Juiced to the gills' Lesnar early doors.

[Waffdon]

Brock will run circles round him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

arielhelwani: UFC just announced that the new main event for UFC 200 is Brock Lesnar vs Mark Hunt
arielhelwani: Jon Jones is out of UFC 200, per Jeff Novitzky. He has been flagged by USADA stemming from a test on 6/16.
arielhelwani: Jon Jones is out of UFC 200, per Jeff Novitzky. He has been flagged by USADA stemming from a test on 6/16.
MMAFighting: White said this is “devastating” for Daniel Cormier “in every way it could possibly be."
arielhelwani: White says he's like for someone to fight DC on short notice but it's unclear whether he will remain on the card.
arielhelwani: White: this is the way it should be. We have the best (drug-testing) program in all of sports.
arielhelwani: White has not disclosed what the banned substance that came up was.
arielhelwani: If DC doesn't get a fight, unclear what if anything he'll get paid, per White.
arielhelwani: White: Jones might get two years for this (via USADA).
arielhelwani: Daniel Cormier is now going to speak.
arielhelwani: White's final words: "this sucks. This is unfortunate."
MMAFighting: Cormier: I’m very disappointed. I worked really hard for this.

:face:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRgav4Ak8fA

Dana looks like he's about to throw up.

[SincereTheRebel]

Boxer povetkin failed a drug test for the wilder fight but they then cleared him the other day claiming he was clean all along. Funny moves.

[Baz]

I guess Nate was right, they're all at it.

[John]

Jones is a fucking disgrace. Lifetime ban.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's hosting a press conference right now and is obviously denying any wrong doing.

He looks like he couldn't give a fuck though.

[Waffdon]

For fuck sake.

[John]

He's made his money. The bloke had a worldwide Nike sponsorship for a couple of years.

[Shindig]

So it's not just coke this time?

[John]

Rumours circulating that Anderson Silva will step in to fight Cormier. Cormier will do him in a round.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bisping (he wants two titles the hero), Mousassi and Cerrone (because why the fuck not) have thrown their names into the hat.

Silva makes the most sense but I agree with you, DC would batter him.

[John]

Cerrone will fight anyone on any night because he's a fucking headbanger. What's Chael Sonnen doing these days? He'd usually be all over that.

[John]

This Belal Muhammad bloke is a madman. He should have been finished three times so far, and he's fighting with fucking contact lenses in. I've never heard of that before, and I'm surprised it's allowed.

[John]

Fuck me.

[John]

Cormier down to third on the 200 card against Anderson Silva, Meisha Tate the new main event, with Lesnar v Hunt in between.

[7om]

I'm going to tune in for the Lesnar fight tomorrow. I've seen a few people say that if Hunt can chin Lesnar it'll be lights out but if it goes to a mat game then Lesnar might make him submit. Should be interesting, either way.

[John]

Lesnar's submission game is quite basic. He done Shane Carwin with an arm triangle but Carwin was absolutely shattered by that point having spent the first round punching Lesnar all over the place. It's not impossible that he'd win by submission but it's far more likely that he'll just pound him out if he gets Hunt to the ground.

Whoever told you it's 'lights out' if Lesnar can't take him down wasn't lying though. Hunt will take his head clean off if he catches him.

[Waffdon]

Silva will be lucky to last thirty seconds.

[John]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVmiydHQE-w

Joey Diaz. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This Belal Muhammad bloke is a madman. He should have been finished three times so far, and he's fighting with fucking contact lenses in. I've never heard of that before, and I'm surprised it's allowed.

I stayed up until this fight (I wanted to do the whole thing but I was shattered and really want to stay up for the next two events) and it was great. He's got a cracking chin, especially after the third as it looked like a huge shot. Had Joubain really fucked in the third too.

[John]

I thought the first was more impressive, because it was the only one Jouban followed up on in any way and the follow up consisted of shitloads of elbows.

There's a shot landed in the Roy Nelson fight will make your beard fall out.

[Baz]

Tempted to stay up for the Silva and Lesnar fights. Might even have a flutter on first round KO in em both (Cormier and Hunt to win) to make it more interesting.

What time do the events start in the UK ? 3AM for main card?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought the first was more impressive, because it was the only one Jouban followed up on in any way and the follow up consisted of shitloads of elbows.

There's a shot landed in the Roy Nelson fight will make your beard fall out.
Jesus fuck you weren't lying.

No fucking clue how he stayed up, makes the Hunt KO even more impressive.

[John]

There's a live Cage Warriors card starting on BT2 now.

[John]

Paddy Pimblett. :D

That's better than anything the Chelsea youth system has thrown up. He looks like Mackenzie Crook with a Snapchat filter on too.

[John]

Oh for fuck sake. He's megascouse. MEGAscouse.

And he's said 'we know that' about twelve times so that answers my question from the other week.

[John]

Almost certain Boubacar 'Black Out' Balde was just introduced as 'Blacks Out'. A bold move for their first televised show.

[Baz]

TEAM KAOBON represent!

[John]

Chris Fishgold, another megascouser, comes off as seriously thick. Every word he said was nonsense.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not sure who I want to win the main event today.

Joanna is awesome but she was a bit of a dick in TUF whilst Claudia looked like a genuinely great person.

In the final I'd love to see Amanda win but I think that Tatiana will have too much about her. Andrew Sanchez all the way in the male final though.

Also it was a bit of a strange season because no one was a dick and they all got along, it was actually nice to watch and there were some really nice people in the house.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The drool :sick:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Jon Jones's B sample has also tested positive.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got a feeling that Edgar will take Aldo out tonight.

He's looked so good since he lost to Aldo and he ended their fight well, IIRC he took the last 2 rounds easily.

[Disco]

Roughly what time is Bork likely to be on?

[Gray Fox]

Probably 5am UK time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

4:30.

Won't last long though as Hunt will punch a hole in his face.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hendricks is probably done as a top level guy now.

He's too small to go up to middleweight and he just can't cut as much as he'd like to in order to make welterweight. His body is pretty much shutting down as he's trying to cut so much. He was shaking on the scales yesterday.

If he wants to challenge again he needs to stop walking around at 200 odd pounds.

[Chrissy]

Agree with Mahow, Hendricks is done now. Prelim and undercard has been good. looking forward to the main card now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He apparently hired a nutritionist earlier in the year but either he was cheating or it just wasn't working because too much weight was left to cut. He missed by .25 of a pound yesterday. He looked like a stiff wind could have killed him.

He's been cutting so much for so long and his body just isn't having it anymore.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Had some little nibbles on all the prelims (not the early ones because I don't have fight pass and called them all so far).

Got a bit on Hunt to win in round one :nodd:

Velasquez, Edgar, DC, Hunt and Tate.

Edit: Aldo looked brilliant, his footwork was amazing. Edgar just couldn't get close to him.

[Waffdon]

Cormier :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pretty shitty from DC.

I'd have lolled so much if Anderson would have knocked him out at the end.

[Waffdon]

Absolutely awful. Jones would have strolled it again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

DC would have fought differently though.

He knew Anderson hadn't trained in months so would be able to do that.

Proper shitty that he was happy to just grind out the win.

[Waffdon]

Bork 'bout to dash all hopes here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nate Diaz really is thick as shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lifting Mark Hunt like that? Damn :\

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hunt needed to do more in the second. Bork was tired and couldn't actually take him down in that round and Hunting was just waiting for an opening.

[Waffdon]

Far too EZ for Bork

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nunes is fucking legit.

Her sister is shit, just vault the fucking barricade it's not big.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hendo will be Bisping's first challenger :drool:

[Disco]

There can't be many things less enjoyable than having Bork Lobster sat on top of you for two minutes punching you in the head, the man is a ridiculous lump of meat-fury.

[Waffdon]

The twats on the UFC forums and what not are looking a tad silly after Bork won last night. Full of seethe.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sherdog?

They make RAWK look good.

[Waffdon]

Just everywhere, really. All off topic forums that aren't even related to solely UFC. It's beautiful.

[Baz]

UFC 200 was a bit of a let down, considering the card and the buildup.

I liked how much they tried to shame Jonny Bones too, showing the "he'll still fuck it up" from Cormier was a nice cherry on top.

Pleased for Brock, hope he gets some more fights.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/7/11/12146610/report-ufc-sold-for-4-billion-annoucement-expected-monday

Sold for 4 billion.

[Gray Fox]

Bought for 1.5m, sold for 4bn. Not bad at all. Vinny Mc will be kicking himself he didn't listen to Shane back in the day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/7/11/12152654/chael-sonnen-jon-jones-usada-drug-test-fail-estrogen-blockers-steroids-ufc-200

Chael and Rashad are saying that Jones was popped for estrogen blockers. Apparently they're used post steroid cycle.

Oh and Cerrone is in trouble for saying that Cormier fought like a fag. If he read this board he'd know that you can't say that these days.

[Gray Fox]

If true. for fucks sake.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2652352-brock-lesnar-notified-of-potential-failed-drug-test-latest-details-and-comments?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

[SvN]

What does this mean in real terms? Will he be DQed?

[John]

Result will be changed to a No Contest and he'll get a ban, probably a year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:harold:

Juiced to the fucking gills.

[Waffdon]

No chance

[Shindig]

Is he still technically contracted to WWE? Could he get hit by them or will they just say, "Well, under our wellness policy he's fine."

[John]

MVP. :drool:

[Disco]

Is he still technically contracted to WWE? Could he get hit by them or will they just say, "Well, under our wellness policy he's fine."

He's definitely under contract, and I would be amazed if he got a WP violation at the moment.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hunt asking the UFC to give him half of Brock's money or release him :drool:

Also Dominick Cruz wants either McGregor or Aldo.

[John]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Sx1BhhwfQ

:harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell :D

[phonics]

There's a really interesting article doing the rounds atm at whether it was worth the reputation boost to hire the guy that broke Armstrong and Jones. At this point, UFC has a more stringent drug policy than any other sport in the world than any other major sport in the world.

edit: Christ that sentence structure, I'm going to bed.

[John]

The lack of a link is a bigger problem than the lack of sentence structure.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That knee fucked Cyborg up hard:

http://shrani.si/f/E/nQ/2f9g4V8w/137098156155492753175577.jpg

[John]

Fucking hell. That could easily have been fatal.

[Disco]

Jesus, he's literally caved his head in.

[Baz]

I was thinking he was being a pussy going down and rolling over, but jeez.

[Disco]

A knee to the top of the head is one of the most painful things I've ever experienced, I just can't imagine how much that will have hurt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I saw a lot of comments that he took a dive because the knee barely touched him.

Clearly they were right.