What Are You Drinking?

[Ian]

£175. Blimey.I think I already said me and my brother in law are going full nerd and using the Brewdog boxes from last year to fill up a calendar for each other this year. £90 budget.

And it has to be said what I've got for him.so far is mega.

[Baz]

I like the "No hints included" aspect. Genuine surprise when you open it.

[Giggles]

I’ve no doubt they’ll all be rare and expensive stuff but the more I think of it the more I’d be afraid that might mean a high ratio of spirit aged stouts. They will have some one-offs just produced for the box though going by last year though.

I wish I’d someone to make me up one like that.

[Ian]

Late having my first beer of the day so I'm starting off with Northern Monk's cucumber and yuzu pale. Proper tasty for a 4.2%. You could sit and tan this in a beer garden all day.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I had six pints of 'tea' tonight, but it was actually beer. God I've missed England.

[Ian]

Tell us the beer, you slag.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.hogsback.co.uk/brands/all-year-round-ales/t-e-a/

Think it's a local one to here, but it went down like gibberish at a Trump rally.

[Giggles]

A good bitter is magic.

[Baz]

Six pints of the same thing :sick:

[niko_cee]

Only way to go if you find something decent.

[Ian]

Depends where I am. If there's loads of taps I'll keep trying stuff, if it's a pub with a handful and I know there's a clear favourite I'll stick with it.


https://www.hogsback.co.uk/brands/all-year-round-ales/t-e-a/

Think it's a local one to here, but it went down like gibberish at a Trump rally.

I've had it bottled before and enjoyed it a lot.


A good bitter is magic.

It's weird how there's such a fine margin with bitter between a really nice one and "Oh this is just like every other middling bitter I've ever had."

I may have mentioned in here recently but as part of their Project Barista Siren did a coffee bitter and it actually did the impressive job of actually tasting like a bitter with a little something extra rather than "we're making a beer and bunging a load of Fuggles in it so we can pretend it's like a bitter."

[Giggles]

I’ve got to the stage that unless something is getting great word of mouth I’ve my main few beers that I’m always getting now.

[Giggles]

Depends where I am. If there's loads of taps I'll keep trying stuff, if it's a pub with a handful and I know there's a clear favourite I'll stick with it.



I've had it bottled before and enjoyed it a lot.



It's weird how there's such a fine margin with bitter between a really nice one and "Oh this is just like every other middling bitter I've ever had."

I may have mentioned in here recently but as part of their Project Barista Siren did a coffee bitter and it actually did the impressive job of actually tasting like a bitter with a little something extra rather than "we're making a beer and bunging a load of Fuggles in it so we can pretend it's like a bitter."

Yeah someone here (Western Herd?) did one recently and it was just really generic but it went down well because it was the only one someone was doing. Wasn’t a patch on some British ones you’d find from time to time in Wetherspoons, especially when they’ve a cask on.

[Spikey M]

Six pints of the same thing :sick:

Don't you get a keg in every Christmas?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Next time I'll remember to stop drinking a drink I like and begin drinking ones I don't.

[Baz]

Don't you get a keg in every Christmas?
Two small ones between the family. Usually have like 2 of each max.

Maybe it’s just me being weird but I try to get a different pint everytime if I’m out, to try. Obviously I wouldn’t switch from ale to Fosters though.

[Ian]

Jimmy's not a wanker like us though.

I'm with you though for the most part. Or at least I am if there's new stuff to try. If it's a load of stuff I've had before I'll just stick with whatever my preferred one is.

[Raoul Duke]

I have a Triple IPA from The Garden Brewery who are from Croatia.

^^ Sounds like something John Peel would say before playing some esoteric thrash metal outfit

[Ian]

I've had a handful of things by them. A mixed back but they've got some good stuff.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah, it was alright but nothing special.

Now onto a witbier from St Bernardus. My local beer shop has a great selection :drool:

[niko_cee]

Was it the White Hag Puca you were a big fan of Giggles?

Can't give it away here [massive photo warning].

https://i.ibb.co/gSXV2Ry/IMG-20211108-174112.jpg

I hold out hope that The Atlantean gets the same treatment, but I think I bought all of that first time around when the stock was new and on promotion.

Had a Dark Star limited edition yesterday which was decent. Cali IPA, can't recall the name, something spacey.

[Giggles]

It’s a long time from I had it but I always enjoyed one (the pink one). Sours are the only one that work for me in a 330ml can, I’d see the size banned otherwise.

[Giggles]

I brewed an American Amber today due to a big lack of them on the market here. Some of my hops were gone off I think so the combo isn’t completely what I wanted but hopefully be supping it this day week.

[Baz]

Talk to me about those Perfect Draft things.

Anyone got/used one? Any good?

[Ian]

I've got the SUB and it's decent but doesn't work out cheaper and takes an age to cool so I've barely used it.

[niko_cee]

Sounds like the kind of thing you'd stick in the 'home bar', in the room with the pool table in it.

The room of shattered dreams.

Treason - West Coast IPA (Windsor & Eton) is a decent effort by the poshos.

[Giggles]

My local offie is full of the kegs for them and apparently they sell really well. Mostly German stuff.

[Ian]

So I'm drinking this:
https://www.tremblingmadness.com/Staggeringly-Good-I-Didnt-Ask-for-a-Monster-Toffee-Apple-Fruit-Beer-p414566532

A "toffee apple cinnamon fruit shake sour."

They've somehow managed to combine the fresh, sharp fruit of a sour with the sort of warm, spiced, rich things you'd expect in a big thick wintery ale. With lactose, for the "shake" part. I've no idea how they've married those things together and I suspect it'll be a very marmite beer depending on your taste. I ordered it half expecting to hate it but I really, really like it.

[Baz]

Scrapped the idea of perfect draft machine. Gonna look up those mini kegs for this year instead.

[Giggles]

You can buy a dispenser for those mini kegs now that take a CO2 cartridge and keep the keg cool too. Means you don’t have to empty it in a couple of evenings.

This is one that a local place here does but I’d say they’re widely enough available.

https://www.stmelsbrewing.com/product/klarstein-5-litre-minikeg-dispenser/

[Giggles]

Ian


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Panda Nero is the core range tiramisu stout and the rest variations of it.

[Ian]

Ooh, I like the sound of that.

[Giggles]

Double Panda would run the van.

[Baz]

Come on then Ian, what did your brother in law have in store for you today?

Brewdog day 1:

https://www.just-drinks.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2021/09/330mlCan_PLANET_PALE_V6_Single_Isolated_RightHighl ight_1.0_RGB_300dpi-1-1.jpeg

[Ian]

Okay so day 1:
I got him New Bristol Irish Coffee & Vanilla Ice-Cream Affogato Christmas Stout.

He got me a Loch Lomond Elevator Pitch an NEIPA. He says I've definitely won and I'd agree but a) he's actually rated the stout and a little higher than I have and b) this is is a good sessionable NEIPA but could do with a less watery finish.

I see Brewdog got off to a blazing hot start...

[Ian]

Day 2:
I got him: https://www.fiercebeer.com/item/343/Purple-Naga-Viper-Brain.html
He got me: https://www.beershophq.uk/products/to-ol-45-days-of-x-mas

I think for my personal tastes I've won again today, though I suspect he might like his more than I like mine. I do enjoy a To Ol though so should be good.

What've Brewdog given you, Baz ?

[Pepe]

Got myself a pack of chocolate hazelnut porters. Hope they're food.

[Shindig]

I ... don't know if that's a fortunate typo. :D I need to get back on the whisky hunt. I might skip Aberlour this year in favour of something different.

[Pepe]

Oh shit :D

[Baz]

Personally, I'd say the one you picked sounds better than the one you received, but I'd be glad of either.


What've Brewdog given you, Baz ?

https://images.alko.fi/images/cs_srgb,f_auto,t_medium/cdn/958363/brewdog-tonys-hopolonely-white-chocolate--raspberry-milkshake-ipa-can.jpg

I'm quite pleased with it, to be honest. Something I'd actually choose myself and not some watered down boring piss like yesterday. It's not amazing like, but it's new to me.

Semi-related but those Tony's Chocolonely bars are a nightmare to eat. Just make the segments square, dammit.

[Ian]

Yeah that's solid, I like that one.


Personally, I'd say the one you picked sounds better than the one you received, but I'd be glad of either.

I find chilli beers veeeeery hit or miss, that's all. I love Fierce though so it's entirely possible it's ace.

Siren's chilli beer in this year's Caribbean Chocolate Cake set was lovely because it sort added a bit of heat where you'd get the warmth from barrel aging, say, rather than I BET YOU'D LIKE TO TASTE SOME CHILLI IN YOUR BEER EH?

[Baz]

Siren's chilli beer in this year's Caribbean Chocolate Cake set was lovely because it sort added a bit of heat where you'd get the warmth from barrel aging, say, rather than I BET YOU'D LIKE TO TASTE SOME CHILLI IN YOUR BEER EH?

Siren's Death by Caribbean Chocolate Cake beer is the highest rated beer on Untappd, albeit with only 526 ratings. 4.10 out of 5.0

[Ian]

That's not the chilli one but the the Death By is among my highest rated. It's absolutely superb.

[Ian]

Today:
I got him: https://www.beermerchants.com/siren-euphoria
He got me: https://www.fiercebeer.com/item/351/fiercebeer/People-Like-Buns.html

I've had the Euphoria and it's really nice (a proper 'I could sit in the sun and drink this all day' beer) but I've definitely ended up with the better beer today. :nodd:


Semi-related but those Tony's Chocolonely bars are a nightmare to eat. Just make the segments square, dammit.

I missed this. :D

You're not wrong. They're really good so given that and it's all for a good cause I'll treat myself to one every so often but the shape of that bits and that big fuck-off chunk in the middle is a weird way to design a bar.

[Raoul Duke]

The salted caramel one is banging. As is the pretzel one. The trick is to whack it on the kitchen counter a few times to break up the weird shapes

[Baz]

Cinnamon bun ale :drool:

Thankfully, seeing the bottom half of the can lessened the initial :moop: when I opened Day 3, but still not best pleased:

https://images.ctfassets.net/b0qgo9rl751g/7udUMjOEy3hhTOB3Pnk21I/921516ae925baf32ee346f35ec1b9283/Lost_in_Mango.jpg

[Ian]

Because you don't like mango or because it's just another so-so beer?

[Giggles]

I knew there would be some given the place I ordered from, but after a good start I was still disappointed to pull out a Trappist blond this evening.

[Giggles]

La Trappe, if anyone knows it. It’s grand but just very Belgian.

[Ian]

I do like a La Trappe but Belgian golden ales are a bit like English bitters in that while there are some very, very nice ones a lot of them just sort of roll into the one identical beer.

[niko_cee]

Quite jealous of recent goings on in here. I've been off the beer for a while but just cracked open a Murk-Life Balance Hazy Pale from Magic Rock which is pretty average. 3.6, not great not terrible.

[Ian]

The calendar is comfortably the nerdiest beer-thing I've partaken in. Fun though. I never did mixtapes in my youth so I never relate to people talking about putting one together but for the amount of time I spent deciding on the order for my brother-in-law's calendar (don't bunch all the best ones together, don't put the same styles together, etc.) I feel like I at least get it a bit now. :D

I was gonna put this:

So I'm drinking this:
https://www.tremblingmadness.com/Staggeringly-Good-I-Didnt-Ask-for-a-Monster-Toffee-Apple-Fruit-Beer-p414566532

A "toffee apple cinnamon fruit shake sour."

They've somehow managed to combine the fresh, sharp fruit of a sour with the sort of warm, spiced, rich things you'd expect in a big thick wintery ale. With lactose, for the "shake" part. I've no idea how they've married those things together and I suspect it'll be a very marmite beer depending on your taste. I ordered it half expecting to hate it but I really, really like it.

As the last beer in his but bottled it in case he has an incorrect opinion and thinks it's weird so I've gone for that as the penultimate beer and gone for a very good but safer bet for the 24th.

[Ian]

This People Like Buns is not quite as good as the original version of it I had but it's still rather tasty.

[igor_balis]

Really hate blonde beers.

[Giggles]

Lough Gill pilsner today. I’m going to put it in a chicken casserole later on.

[niko_cee]

:D

I nuked a bottle of shall we say 'traditional' Riesling into a similar thing yesterday for eating later.

[Ian]

Speaking of Belgians me and my brother in law were clearly of a mind for the 4th....

I got him: https://www.delirium.be/en/beers/delirium-argentum
He got me: https://chouffe.com/en-gb/beers/nice-chouffe/#

[Foe]

Had a quick google to make sure the fierce beer you were talking about is the same one I walk past on my wander to the gym. It is, turns out they’re bigger than I credited.

Remember going to that bar not long after it opened and thinking it was pretty crap, even for beer. Situated right beside a brew dog bar too.

[Kikó]

Having a bottle of Bayreuther Hell. Pretty tasty lager.

[Baz]

Punk IPA today :moop:

Good to get it out early, I guess, on the proviso there are no repeats.

Presumably regular Lost Lager and Hazy Jane still await. From the other basics, I actually really like Elvis Juice and Clockwork Orange so they will considered good days.

The other 17 better be some “oooooh fancy that” moments. Like I’ve ever never had that Layer Cake that I see in supermarkets, and I reckon that’s definitely in there. Hoping for plenty I didn’t even know existed though.

And I guess there’s worse beers to sup during MOTD than Punk IPA (such as Lost Lager). :sorry:

[niko_cee]

The layer cake is decent, although usually in bigger cans. Do you get those in the calendar?

[Ian]

Calendar fits 440mls and I think Brewdog do give you some of those.


Good to get it out early, I guess, on the proviso there are no repeats.

I'm 99.9% sure that while I was disappointed last year there were no doublers.

[Baz]

The layer cake is decent, although usually in bigger cans. Do you get those in the calendar?

Yeah like Ian said, there are some taller 440ml in there, cos that’s what Day 2s was.

[Ian]

So for my last order TM had some.ofnrhe Amundsen Dessert in a Cans vastly reduced. I'm glad I haven't spent the regular price on some of these. Amundsen do some mega beers but the balance on some of these is way out. That said the "White Chocolate S'mores" one was waaaay better than I expected.

[Giggles]

Got jipped with a 330ml today - Blacks Tropical IPA. They always make me regret buying the calendar in the first place.

[Baz]

Punk IPA today :moop:

Good to get it out early, I guess, on the proviso there are no repeats.

Presumably regular Lost Lager and Hazy Jane still await. As if by magic on Day 5.

https://www.brewdog.com/media/catalog/product/cache/eb360c13587b21a8ac6c611a2762b864/l/o/lost_lager_can_berlin.png

:thbdn:

[Ian]

Yeah it's not inspiring stuff, is it.

[Giggles]

Decided to open a West Cork ESB instead that I was saving to try at Christmas. Another style that’s sorely sparse in the market here and it’s one of my favourites. This one is gorgeous.

[Giggles]

Ayinger Celebrator dopplebock. Now we’re talking.

[Ian]

Yeah that sounds like a winner.

Today I gave: https://brewyork.co.uk/product/fairytale-of-brew-york/
I got: https://www.fiercebeer.com/item/357/Beepa.html

I think I've probably got the better end of the deal today because I've already had that Brew York one and it's not one of their better efforts.

[Giggles]

Some Brlo cucumber shit. Nope.

And a 330ml can to add insult to injury.

[Ian]

I had a yuzu and cucumber beer by Northern Monk and it was really drinkable but the yuzu was possibly doing the heavy lifting there.

For today I gave: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4909/10683/
And I got: https://www.barneysbeer.co.uk/product/not-milk-stout-vegan/

I'll be curious to see how close they get to tasting like a milk stout.

Also the Fierce Beepa was very decent.

[Ian]

The answer is it's it that close to a milk stout but it's a solid effort and I could happily sink a few of these.

[Baz]

I walked past a Fierce bar in Manchester today. Is Fierce local or is it just a coincidence? I didn’t go in cos I was with non-REAL ALE drinkers.

[Ian]

Fierce are Aberdeen I'm sure so it's just that have a Manc bar. I didn't know they had bars that far afield.

Put one in Glasgow you cowards.

[Giggles]

A nordy one today - Heaney Echo Chamber, a black IPA. Nice too.

[Ian]

I gave: https://www.eebriatrade.com/products/beer/alphabet-brewing-company/32090-heliopause
I got: https://www.weebeershop.co.uk/product/vocation-naughty-nice-black-forest/

I've had a version of this Vocation one but not this specific one so should be good.

[Ian]

This black forest stout is really rather good. Manages to be chocolatey and fruity but not sickly sweet. The fruit in it is actually a little sharp which helps with that a lot.

[Lofty]

I thought layer cake was a bit sickly for what it is worth but I am not a fan of the darker ales, despite loving the guinness way back when.

[Ian]

I had a yuzu and cucumber beer by Northern Monk and it was really drinkable but the yuzu was possibly doing the heavy lifting there.

Speak of the devil, this is what I'd put in my brother-in-law's calendar for today. I'd already had it when I re-ordered one for his so I'm fairly confident it's a good'un.

I got a Raspberry Ripple stout by Loch Lomond. Didn't realise they'd branched out into doing things that aren't a largely similar parade of pales.

[niko_cee]

Carelessly bought a couple of Jubel Beer Cut With Peaches, describes itself as a session lager, would not recommend. Tastes like lager that someone has spiked with Rubicon.

[Baz]

Just seen on Instagram that Brewdog do a Pecan Salted Caramel Stout called Velvet Cake. If that isn’t in this box I’m burning Scotland down.

[Ian]

Yeah it's new so I'd be surprised if there's not one in there. I don't think it's mad expensive on its own.

[Giggles]

St. Bernardus Witbier today. Meh.

[Ian]

Yeah it's not my favourite St. bernadus that one. I like a wheat beer but that one wasn't anything special.

[Giggles]

Anyone tried Buxton Brithop? Really interests me but I don’t think anyone imports their stuff to here. Would they be a big or small brewery?

[niko_cee]

I don't really know the relative scale of operations, but their website says they have 11 staff, which, to me seems small. 11000 litres a week though so who knows, is that a lot?

Their stuff is often pretty good although not had that one.

[Giggles]

Ballykilcavan Clancys #7 today, a Munich dunkel. Wondrously good.

[Giggles]

I don't really know the relative scale of operations, but their website says they have 11 staff, which, to me seems small. 11000 litres a week though so who knows, is that a lot?

Their stuff is often pretty good although not had that one.

Would love to try it, was only having a notion the other day to brew a west coast ipa style with all German hops and this would be great to try too. I’d love to know what’s in it even.

11,000 litres would be too 5 (outside Guinness, etc) here but no idea of how it fares there.

[Ian]

Ballykilcavan Clancys #7 today, a Munich dunkel. Wondrously good.

I get more into dunkels as time goes on. Even when I was first into stouts I wasn't always big into them. Rauchbiers - still a work in progress.

Today at the opposite ends of the spectrum in both senses as I picked a beer to bring down my average spend a bit and I'm guessing he picked one that was when his average was good and he could spend a little more. Also basicall

I gave: https://www.virginwines.co.uk/beer/Z41656103400/Utopian-Brewing-Vienna-Keller-Lager
I got: https://www.weebeershop.co.uk/product/overtone-maple-nutter/

[Giggles]

I don’t think I’ll ever come around to smoked anything when it comes to drinks.

[niko_cee]

Think I still have some sort of smoked imperial by Beak in the UK fridge from last christmas which I haven't been able to bring myself to drink on my various visits since.

I suppose it can work when it's up against a sweetness, but as with Whisky, as soon as smoke [or peat] enter the fold then it's a bit of a struggle.

[Ian]

With beer I need a bit of sweetness as well, yeah.

Same with whisky I guess.

[Ian]

I think this Overtone beer would be absolutely delicious if you weren't as nut-averse as me. It seems moderately peanut-forward which probably means it actually isn't.

[Giggles]

Saison Dupont. Another meh.

[Ian]

Today I gave: https://www.thewhitehag.com/product/spree-series-mochaccino-stout/
I got: https://toolbeer.dk/products/11th-anniversary

To Ol are a brewery I trust with this sort of strength IPA so we'll see if it's too much.

[Spikey M]

9% is the strongest I've ever had. 11% is madness.

[Giggles]

I opened a Baltic Porter there about 10 minutes ago that was 10% and 3/4 of it went down the sink.

[Ian]

I think I've only ever had one beer I tipped for being that bad.


9% is the strongest I've ever had. 11% is madness.

Get one of these (https://www.brewdog.com/blog/hop-shot) in you, you pussy.

[Giggles]

It just had that alcohol burn taste in it. Reminded me why I don’t touch spirits. I think the last one I tipped before that was a cherry cask aged Tripel - I’d bloody bought 5 of them too and have the other 4 left.

[Ian]

This TIPA is pretty nice. Has a bit of the burn but just an edge and the fruit and hops are the stronger flavours. Good stuff.

[Giggles]

Back to Irish made today but yet another Belgian :rolleyes:

[Ian]

I gave: https://www.wildbeerco.com/item/789/Cans/Thrills-Grills.html
I got: https://brewyork.co.uk/product/dreams-of-brew-york/#:~:text=A%20festive%20twist%20on%20one,for%20our% 20seasonal%20pastry%20sour.

As discussed the other day the smoked one wouldn't be for me but he really likes them so fingers crossed I've hit the mark.

The sour he gave me is very nice. Bit of cinnamon in there which is a nice twist.

[Baz]

Day 13:

https://www.brewdog.com/media/catalog/product/cache/812bb802e88c6c6573092eb3de0ab6b0/l/i/light_speed.png

Probably one of the best “session” beers I’ve had.

[Ian]

I think I got that in the calendar last year and thought it was fine but even for a session not anything special.

Today feels like a day me and my brother in law were both getting the average spend back down a little.

I gave: https://www.cigarcitybrewing.com/beer/frost-proof/
I got: https://www.stewartbrewing.co.uk/products/night-falling

[Baz]

I think I got that in the calendar last year and thought it was fine but even for a session not anything special.

Twas ice cold and had with pizza, which I feel may have skewed my rating.

[Giggles]

Wildbeer Yokai. Not too bad, especially as I think it has fruit in it.

[Giggles]

Wide St Neo Noir black IPA. Was expecting something a bit more different seeing as they're known for the wild and mixed fermentation, but it's as nice a black IPA as I've tasted.

[Ian]

I gave: https://shop.raynvillesuperstore.co.uk/products/seasonal-extravagance-wilde-child-brewing-co-christmas-pudding-red-ipa-5-440ml-can

I got: https://www.fiercebeer.com/item/367/fiercebeer/Caramel-Moose.html

It's very drinkable. It's not that rich which is no surprise for the strength but it's tasty all the same.

[Baz]

I wish I had an Ian calendar. :(

Day 14:

https://static.ah.nl/static/product/AHI_43545239373834353336_2_LowRes_JPG.JPG?options= 399,q85

I llke it, but it's no Christmas Pudding Red IPA.

[Ian]

Yeah the one I gave I bought for myself too and it's pretty interesting. Was missing maybe a bit if body but it's a tasty thing all the same.

[Giggles]

Mikeller Hallo Ich Bin raspberry berliner. Not often I would do fruit in a beer, but then again I never really count these as beer so it’s a pleasant enough drink.

[Ian]

I gave: https://www.vocationbrewery.com/products/sunset-overdrive-8-0-pin-colada-sour-440ml

I got: https://coldtownbeer.com/product/chocolate-cake-stout/

I haven't had anything by Cold Town before. There's a pub in town which does their stuff but only a pale and the lager and whenever I've been in they've had more interesting stuff on.

This is decent though. Not amazing but for a sub-5%er it's pretty solid.

[igor_balis]

I just cannot put away the beer anymore. Red wine was always about my 10th favourite drink but it's my default go-to now for being just about the least likely thing to give me manky hangovers.

[Boydy]

Red wine doesn't give you hangovers? It's pretty much the worst for me.

[igor_balis]

Red wine doesn't give you hangovers? It's pretty much the worst for me.

Yeah, I'm as surprised as you, it used to be the absolute worst for me as well. Probably cus when I was at my lowest ebb in Norwich I was getting trashed off fucking co-op brandy all the time, so I probably trained my body to deal with the tannins or something.

[Giggles]

Wicklow Wolf Apex oatmeal stout today. I regularly drink it and I’m still glad to see it because it’s so fucking good. Got the recipe from the brewery for it recently too so I need to attempt it.

[Ian]

I gave: https://pressuredropbrewing.co.uk/products/cast-iron-billy-imperial-brown-stout
I got: https://mobile.twitter.com/drygate/status/1459159091809603585

The Cast Iron Billy is superb, was delighted it was so good to put in his calendar when I took the punt on just buying two while I could get them

The chocolate orange Orinoco is pretty much what you'd expect but it's pretty tasty.

[Ian]

I gave: https://www.oskarblues.com/beer/can-o-bliss-resinous/
I got: https://www.fremontbrewing.com/head-full-of-dynomite-v30

It's pretty nice. I suppose I must've had something with Enigma hops in before but I don't remember. They seem to give a bit of a raspberry flavour which is nice. Oats in there too to smooth it out which I'm a big fan of in a pale these days.

[Baz]

Got a bottle of Efes Draft from Home Bargain of all places. :drool:

Also day 17 finally delivered the salted pecan caramel stout thingy.

[Ian]

Was that the Velvet Cake? And if so how is it?

[Ian]

Roaster Coaster remains a belter of a beer. Nitros are good anyway but this is just the tastiest thing.

[Kikó]

I've got the Christmas beer sorted. Crate of bitburger, veltins and helles püllekin. It could be the equivalent of fosters, Carling and Tennants but still, it sounds great.

[Giggles]

I got myself a big tray of O’Hara’s Irish stout, the nitro version. Will require very little else.

[Giggles]

The calendar had Kinnegar Winterland in it. Hadn’t heard of it before but it’s a vanilla coffee milk stout, so nope.

[Ian]

Sounds smashing.

[Baz]

Was that the Velvet Cake? And if so how is it?

Yes that. Was just okay, didn’t really get any of the flavour so a bit of a disappointment.

Got a headache this morning though, just off those 2 I mentioned. :cab:

[Giggles]

Sounds smashing.

I’m not mad about milk stouts but I’d drink them the odd time, especially Left Hand nitro, but vanilla would be a no straight away.

[Giggles]

Uiltje Trackdown today. Small can but lovely beer.

[Ian]

I gave: https://nordbottleshop.co.uk/collections/beer/products/demoersleuteltroks
I got: https://brewver.com/beers/323214/Liquorice-Vanilla-Cake

This unfortunately a bit heavy on the liquorice for my taste which is a shame because it's a big rich boozy thing which is otherwise very much my cup of tea.

[Giggles]

Petrus cherry chocolate quad.

I’m at the stage of serious buyers remorse now.

[niko_cee]

Beak Oopla Imperial Stout, been knocking about in the fridge since last Christmas, not sure why I've not tried it sooner, it's decent. Think I feared peaty/smokiness but that was misplaced. Not too much sweet or anything, just seems a fairly classic and good example [not that I'm an aficionado of them or anything].

Got some DEYAs on order and a few Christmas things from Vocation to tide me over until the big day.

[Baz]

Day 19:

https://www.brewdog.com/media/catalog/product/cache/eb360c13587b21a8ac6c611a2762b864/m/i/microsoftteams-image_21__2.png

Sounds awesome. :nod:

[Ian]

Today I gave: https://www.sintbernardus.be/en/brewery/our-beers/stbernardus-extra-4-en
I got: https://brewyork.co.uk/product/fairytale-of-brew-york/

I actually had one of these already as I bought one for myself. It's alright but nothing special. Also the first one we've both bought for each other which isn't bad going given I assume he also ordered a bunch from TM.

[Giggles]

Hopburgh Helles today. Quality.

[Ian]

I gave: https://www.tempestbrewco.com/item/335/TempestBrewCo/Bourbon-Barrel-Mexicake-330ml-can.html
I got: https://www.fiercebeer.com/item/352/Have-A-Break.html

I've had Have a Break before but the original version was definitely better. This is still nice though.

[Ian]

I gave: https://www.vocationbrewery.com/products/gweilo-neon-jungle-5-9-ipa-440ml
I got: https://untappd.com/b/stewart-brewing-cherry-on-top/4557463/photos

This is alright. Starts better than it finishes which is a shame but it's not bad.

[niko_cee]

DEYA 1 was this (https://bundobust.com/homepage/deya-x-bundobust-pale-ale-v2-out-now/). It was very good. DEYA 2 was this (https://www.hopburnsblack.co.uk/products/deya-gently-down-double-ipa-8-500ml-can) which I thought was pretty mega.

Finished myself off with this (https://www.tremblingmadness.co.uk/?store-page=Vocation-Naughty-and-Nice-Salted-Caramel-Stout-p418032266), also good although I was struggling towards the end. Maybe a bit too sweet. Maybe too many trips to the 8% barrier.

All in a decent first day of Christmas drinking.

[Ian]

Getting to the business end of this now.

I gave: https://www.kwoff.co.uk/products/cloudwater-x-donzoko-slow-low-smoked-baltic-porter
I got: https://www.eebriatrade.com/products/beer/abbeydale-brewery/40908-glory-glory

It's a while since I've had a saison and the peppercorns makes this interesting. It's got quite a lot of sour funkiness in it. Definitely wouldn't be to everybody's taste and I wouldn't want more than one but it's decent.

[igor_balis]

Already finished the laprhoiag my mate gave me Sunday to thank me for cat babysitting :uhoh:, probably need to follow Boydy's advice after Christmas.

[Shindig]

That's .... enthusiasm. I've got 10 bottles of Peroni left. I thought about grabbing whisky but I'm just not feeling it. Getting drunk on whisky is a lovely feeling. Waking up in whisky sweats and a stonking headache is not. Maybe I'll break the hiatus on New Year.

[Boydy]

Already finished the laprhoiag my mate gave me Sunday to thank me for cat babysitting :uhoh:, probably need to follow Boydy's advice after Christmas.

What was that?

[igor_balis]

What was that?

Sorting my life out, cunt.

[igor_balis]

That's .... enthusiasm. I've got 10 bottles of Peroni left. I thought about grabbing whisky but I'm just not feeling it. Getting drunk on whisky is a lovely feeling. Waking up in whisky sweats and a stonking headache is not. Maybe I'll break the hiatus on New Year.

The most dangerous thing about whisky from my experience is the way I can start sipping away at like 6pm, then get to bed time and I've had a third of a bottle and I'm not even that pissed.

[Shindig]

Yeah, it's not a question of pacing yourself but rather quitting in advance.

[Ian]

I gave: https://brewcavern.co.uk/product/i-didnt-ask-for-a-monster/
I got: https://toolbeer.dk/products/santa-gose-f-it-all-pastry-edition?pr_prod_strat=collection_fallback&pr_rec_pid=7057965449416&pr_ref_pid=4436679786599&pr_seq=uniform

The one I have is one of my favourites if the year. The one I've got is really good too. Very tasty and at 4% I could happily spend the afternoon on this.

[Baz]

Fucksake.

Make me one next year.

Day 23:

https://www.brewdog.com/media/catalog/product/cache/812bb802e88c6c6573092eb3de0ab6b0/b/d/bdvsmikkeller_urban_fog_heroshot_edited_2.0_1__1.p ng

I've been drinking Guinness though so saving that for a double-whammy tomorrow. I wonder what Christmas Eve will bring? Punk AF? :cab:

[Giggles]

My sister brought be a selection she picked up yesterday with 2 brewdogs in it. Haven’t tried punk in years.

[Ian]

I've been drinking Guinness though so saving that for a double-whammy tomorrow. I wonder what Christmas Eve will bring? Punk AF? :cab:

Fingers crossed for Nanny State.

[Baz]

Fingers crossed for Nanny State.

The grand finale:

https://www.brewdog.com/media/catalog/product/cache/cbc558a17895be22f962d1dc5e92c9b4/h/o/hoppy_xmas_330ml_can_1.0_1.png

[Ian]

Well it was another thrilling effort from Brewdog.

[Ian]

Ending with a bang.

I gave: https://www.eebriatrade.com/products/beer/atom/40886-entropic-doom
I got: https://brewcavern.co.uk/product/bourbon-barrel-aged-sticky-little-fingers/

Every other day I've been having more than my calendar beer I've had the calendar one first on a clean palate. And it's Christmas which means I am of course having some early now I'm done with work so I guess I'm starting on 440ml of 13%.

[Ian]

This is dangerous stuff.

[niko_cee]

Especially for half five in the evening.

I'm supping on an Into the Haze and am contemplating having to go out to the garage to get more beers whilst it's pissing it down. :moop:

[Ian]

Especially for half five in the evening.

I remember once going into town to meet a friend for lunch but we were going to the pub first. We agreed on a craft place in town and I walked in, roasting and gasping for a beer as it was an actual nice summer's day in Glasgow. Walked in having fully intended to get a pint of some sort of pale or lager but saw a lovely sounding 12% stout and went "oooh yes I'll have one of those." Of course it was gone in about 15 minutes. A foolish start to proceedings.

[Giggles]

My sister brought be a selection she picked up yesterday with 2 brewdogs in it. Haven’t tried punk in years.

For such a banger in its day, it’s been well passed out by so many beers now. 5.4% and has the body of 3.4.

[niko_cee]

Punk's decent enough, but doesn't fare well if you've been drinking more well made/flavoursome beers in the run up to consuming it. I was left with a bunch after drinking all the Christmas good stuff last year and it took me a while to taste anything from it.

On the subject of Christmas stuff, I got a few siren's, a Caribbean Pancake White Porter and some sort of stout thing. Both very decent. Think I have a mole one in the fridge and a few other things from Attic(?) brewing who made a decent pale.

[Dquincy]

Chaps, I've one of those metal beer kegs. Is it something that needs to get drunk in one night otherwise it'll go flat, or is it sealed sufficiently to drink over a week or so?

[Giggles]

The 5 litre one with a gravity tap on the bottom? You’d want to be downing it in 2 days max if you haven’t a dispenser.

[Dquincy]

The 5 litre one with a gravity tap on the bottom? You’d want to be downing it in 2 days max if you haven’t a dispenser.
That's the one. Thought as much, Thanks.

[Ian]

Roaster Coaster by Brewdog / Evil Twin remains a disgustingly easy drink for 9%.

[Mike]

My Nan got me a ‘12 days of Christmas’ brewdog box, so had a few of them.

[igor_balis]

Got a bottle of jack daniels tennessee honey from my mum's mate. Not a huge fan, but I found a ridiculous cocktail off reddit that I have all the ingredients for.

Two parts tennessee honey, one part lemon juice and one part MAPLE SYRUP. It's probably my entire 2022 sugar allowance, but it's pretty delicious.

[Boydy]

Had a bottle of red wine with dinner last night then drank margaritas for the rest of the night. Bizarrely didn't feel hungover this morning at all.

[Giggles]

I’d have had their wall sprayed before they got the first margarita made.

[niko_cee]

Siren's Death by Carribean Chocolate Cake.

It packs a punch.

[Ian]

One of my favour ever beers, that.

I'm on call so don't have anything fancy in. A handful of Elvis Juice and a couple of Belhaven oatmeal stouts.

[Giggles]

I just keep going back to the O’Hara’s Irish Stout in the nitro can. I don’t know how anyone would touch Guinness again after it.

[Ian]

I just keep going back to the O’Hara’s Irish Stout in the nitro can. I don’t know how anyone would touch Guinness again after it.

Just stuck a can of this in my TM order and the nitro red.

[Giggles]

Don't expect anything too "crafty", they're basically nicer versions of Guinness and Kilkenny but that's a very good thing.

[Ian]

The red isn't much more than fine but it's super drinkable. Very smooth (which is a given with a nitro, really) and pretty clean tasting.

[Baz]

I know the answer is no but Giggles have tried “Forged Irish Stout” that Conor McGregor does? Apparently it’s only available in The Black Forge Inn in Dublin, for now.

His whiskey is meant to be rancid, but this looks lovely and creamy.

[Ian]

1459287719360843780

:D

Could just be some Twitter want on the wind up (I imagine the beer is probably Fine) but I still chuckled.

[Giggles]

Not sure who’s making it for him but I’d say it’s bang on and a standard nitro Irish stout.

[Ian]

As you said, Giggles, the O'Hara's nitro stout is kinda unremarkable but very drinkable. If I was in a pub with nothing more interesting on I'd happily sit on that for the duration.

[Giggles]

Yeah it’s definitely just a standard nitro stout but just nicer than Guinness or most others. I’d love to see it on tap in more places.

[Lofty]

Picked up a 4 pack of Sierra Nevada California IPA and a 4 pack of Salt Jute Session IPA under the cover of dog walking.

[Ian]

Staggeringly Good Bloody Mary Sour.

It is, as you might expect, weird. But I'm not against it.

[Giggles]

My own latest brew is surprisingly a monster of a beer. Having it over any IPA's I have in stock. Took long enough but finally not making meh :drool:

[Pepe]

When are you having us over to try?

[Giggles]

Any time peps. You can even have a room and not a camping space out the back.

[Pepe]

:drool:

I have been drinking this lately:

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It is very good. Porters are, without a doubt, my favorite type of beer.

[Giggles]

I love a porter but sans the nuts and chocolate.

[Pepe]

It doesn't really taste much of that, which is why I like it. Hard to find Porters around here. IPAs left and right.

[Giggles]

It was like that here for ages but there's been a big push lately on other stuff and with such a saturated market (over 90 breweries for somewhere so small) there's some really good stuff landing. The IPA's and pales are still the bread and butter for most of them but it's letting them do a bit more. My go-to place just recently doubled their fermenter capacity (sue to the sales of their two IPA's) so they can do more lagers and are currently building a new brewery on site to do some wild and mixed stuff.

[Magic]

I signed up to the scotch malt whisky society when I was pissed despite not even liking whisky. :face:

[Ian]

You say you're in Pennsylvania these days, Pepe?

Voodoo's a brewery I had a good one from a few years ago. 'Wynona's Brown Ale', if it's available to you anywhere / they still do it.

Is there a good website that'll deliver? There are loads of dark American beers I've had and still see semi-regular even over here.

[Pepe]

Just checked, and Voodoo is not too far from here. Might have to check it out some time.

I am sure I can find good stuff online. I just miss being in St. Louis and having a nice beer store that carried basically everything nearby. Over here there is just the supermarket, which has the generic shite you can expect and not a lot more, or individual breweries, which I do not visit that often since Covid. Not because I want to isolate or anything, I just lost the habit entirely.

I'll go check what I can find online.

[Ian]

https://bbno.co/collections/frontpage/products/64-imperial-stout-tiramisu-10-440ml-can

Loooove this.

Also had a sour earlier with tonka beans in it. Never had anything other than a stout with those in so didn't know how it'd work but it was really good.

[Pepe]

10% is too much for me.

[Ian]

Out of interest: because of burny alcohol taste or because you're a beer-manlet? Because taste-waste this (as with many other impys these days) really doesn't taste it.

[Pepe]

Both. :(

[Ian]

Didn't realise you were a fucking pussy.

I'm going to need some time to process this.

[Pepe]

My alcohol stamina is definitely the lowest it has ever been. I just had two beers and I think that is all I am willing to take. Fuck hangovers.

[Ian]

I take after my dad in that I currently don't get proper hangovers almost regardless of what I drink. Not the way other people get them.

But I also remember when he went from being genuinely fine the morning after a skinful to saying "N-no.... I'm not hungover I just like... I have a headache and I'm a bit nauseous."

That's a fucking hangover, old man.

So I know my time will come.

[Giggles]

I used to think I really disliked high alcohol too until I copped it was always those strength beers they put spirits into and it was that taste I hated.

[Ian]

I have no special issue with those (there's a finer line between them being good and overdone, but broadly any style of beer can be good or bad) but I do know what you mean. That tiramisu one I posted above isn't "boozy" in that way. Like there's no real taste of spirits to it or anything, it's just strong.

I mean I don't think you'd like it anyway because I think you're much more about the traditional flavours for your porters and stouts but I agree that when you get, say, a bourbon barrel aged one and it just tastes of weird bourbon it's a bad time.

[Pepe]

Those with whiskey in them are atrocious.

[Ian]

I've had some really nice ones of those and some really horrific ones. If the balance is right and it's basically just a bit of sweetness and warmth (maybe a bit of smokiness if it's aged with Islay or something) it can be fucking mega. But you need the basic beer flavour to still be coming through.

[Spikey M]

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[niko_cee]

Tweet him back saying bottled lager.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Ian]

Carling. :sick:

[Giggles]

Piss doesn't come any more pissier.

[Giggles]

Apart from Fosters.

[Manc]

Had a few ginger old fashions at the local indian. Superb.

[Baz]

Ordered my Dad one of these (https://www.beerwulf.com/en-gb/p/beertaps/the-sub-compact-black-edition) for his birthday:

https://www.beerwulf.com/globalassets/the-sub-compact---2l_2_14.png?w=400&rev=1630459164

Complete with nerdy spreadsheet to choose 2 little kegs.

https://i.imgur.com/ShuAqnh.png

Removed anything too dark.

Went with Voodoo Ranger (https://www.beerwulf.com/en-gb/p/beers/new-belgium-voodoo-ranger-2L-keg) and Puntigamer (https://www.beerwulf.com/en-gb/p/beers/puntigamer-2l-keg) to ease them in gently. :sorry:

[phonics]

Ordered a San Miguel. Got a Brewdog. Annoyed.

[niko_cee]

Not been buying much of late, but was recently tasked with buying some sort of beer gift for a friend who has broken both his arms and then had his op to fix them thwarted by covid.

Ordered a 6 nations wild beer thing off beerhawk as he's into his rugby and they've delivered here in the past.

Got a customs note today saying I had to pay £13 import duty, so slightly fuming.

Just opened the box and they've sent me a 12 pack of Wild Beer Bibble IPA which I neither ordered nor paid for, so less fuming.

[Giggles]

Was looking at that set the other day in the off licence. I'm hoping O'Haras release the coffee red ale at some stage on its own.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I thought of you when I saw the O'Haras collaboration.

Sort of minded to gut half out and just give him 6 [rather than 12]. :baz:

[Baz]

I’m gonna try my hand at making some mead, after discussing it for the 100th time with a bloke from work yesterday.

Undecided whether my first batch should just be plain honey, or should I add some fruit to the mix. Any fruit suggestions welcomed.

Previously he’s done cherry, raspberry, blackberry, cinnamon & fig, and some others I’ve forgot. I was thinking pineapple but obviously it’s already super sweet cos of the honey, so not sure.

[Ian]

I haven't had a lot of mead but would it work with something citrusy to cut through the sweetness a little? I assume that's similar to what some of the berry ones will do as they'll be a bit tart.

[Baz]

I haven't had a lot of mead but would it work with something citrusy to cut through the sweetness a little? I assume that's similar to what some of the berry ones will do as they'll be a bit tart.

Well I got some passion fruit and some tutti fruity (https://www.ocado.com/products/m-s-tutti-frutti-grapes-536866011) flavoured grapes. Use both for mead or just the passion fruit and eat the grapes? :sorry:

[Ian]

I have no clue what those grapes would be like. :D

[Ben]

Morrisons do cotton candy ones and they're fucking horrific. My wife got a verbal warning for buying them.

[Baz]

I have no clue what those grapes would be like. :D

They just taste like grapes. False advertising.

The passion fruit smelled amazing when I was scooping it out to freeze, so I think I’ve made a good choice. Went and got some local honey before (2kg) and a 5L bottle of spring water so it’s all systems go tomorrow so long as Wilko has some wine yeast in stock and I can find a balloon.

[Baz]

https://i.imgur.com/wuPS1m3_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

:sorry:

[Ben]

Got myself a load of wacky American beers for tonight. Fully expecting them to be shite so got a backup crate of pilsner.

[Ian]

I've got a handful of dark stuff then I'll probably just hit the gin.

[niko_cee]

Just had a Mai Tai so chances of me surviving until the game are slim. On the upside, think I have a decent working recipe now.

[Baz]

I know we’re all big fans of Brewdog in here.

1. Visit the Brewdog website (https://www.brewdog.com/uk/planet-brewdog/#__sMTA5NDg3NQ==|r)
2. Register for an account or login to your existing account
3. Click ‘Become a Member’ to join Planet Brewdog
4. Add this specific 4-pack of Hazy Jane (https://www.brewdog.com/uk/hazy-jane-4-can-give-away?utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digidip.net%2F&utm_medium=AWIN&utm_campaign=Sub%2BNetworks&awc=19216_1645124365_ced442cbd39c1f93603dcf11477e6 29c#__sMTA5NDg3NQ) to your basket.
5. Checkout. You just have to pay £1.95 postage for four cans of beer.

:sorry:

[Giggles]

I know we’re all big fans of Brewdog in here.

1. Visit the Brewdog website (https://www.brewdog.com/uk/planet-brewdog/#__sMTA5NDg3NQ==|r)
2. Register for an account or login to your existing account
3. Click ‘Become a Member’ to join Planet Brewdog
4. Add this specific 4-pack of Hazy Jane (https://www.brewdog.com/uk/hazy-jane-4-can-give-away?utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digidip.net%2F&utm_medium=AWIN&utm_campaign=Sub%2BNetworks&awc=19216_1645124365_ced442cbd39c1f93603dcf11477e6 29c#__sMTA5NDg3NQ) to your basket.
5. Checkout. You just have to pay £1.95 postage for four cans of beer.

:sorry:

How many cans does the opening link get you?

[niko_cee]

Worked for me, although I didn't click the links.

Might try and create a few more accounts.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, worked again. :hat:

[Baz]

How many cans does the opening link get you?

We both get £5 off an order, apparently.

Also what’s your gripe? I alerted people to a bargain, so so what if I benefit?

[Giggles]

Yeah, worked again. :hat:

Can the accounts have the same address? (Not that I can order anyway).

[Giggles]

We both get £5 off an order, apparently.

Also what’s your gripe? I alerted people to a bargain, so so what if I benefit?

No real gripe, though I think people rather when someone is up front.

[niko_cee]

Can the accounts have the same address? (Not that I can order anyway).

I used the same delivery address, name and everything, just different emails. I guess that's the bribe, they get your subscriber data in exchange for some cheap beer. Probably not a good trade really but oh well.

[niko_cee]

Just had a Bluestone Al Fresco Hazy IPA which was decent, if a little on the sour spectrum for me, and a Gras & Graan [Brouwerij de Molen] which sold itself as 'Crystal NEIPA-ish', but definitely had what I would call a classically Belgian flavour. It was rather good.

[Ian]

I have been on decent but interesting pales so far. Siren are mega though so an unremarkable beer from them is still invariably very drinkable.

[niko_cee]

You've tempted me to crack open a Lumina.

[Ian]

https://www.sirencraftbrew.com/item/557/SirenCraftBrew/Bones-of-a-Sailor.html

I've had this before and having it tonight. It is mega.

Got a Siren darks box and it has two of these in it.

[Raoul Duke]

Just had a Bluestone Al Fresco Hazy IPA which was decent, if a little on the sour spectrum for me, and a Gras & Graan [Brouwerij de Molen] which sold itself as 'Crystal NEIPA-ish', but definitely had what I would call a classically Belgian flavour. It was rather good.

Dutch :dc:

(Molen is windmill)

[Ian]

Dutch :dc:

(Molen is windmill)

Yeah but your traditional Dutch beer (and French to an extent and probably other neighbouring countries) definitely have some shared traits with Belgian, which is the go-to comparison.

Do love a De Molen though.

[Giggles]

It's actually fucking gorgeous.

[Ian]

In terms of drinkability ABV means basically nothing in the hands of a good brewery these days.

What've you got?

[Ian]

The Nitro Broken Dream is beautiful stuff.

[Giggles]

The Nitro Broken Dream is beautiful stuff.

Oh shit yes. In a can?

[Ian]

Yep. From the website

[Giggles]

Their stuff is readly available here in Martins in the capital. I'll keep an eye out.

[Ian]

I'm sure I've said this before but I spent quite a long time sort of taking Siren for granted. They're rightly among my favourite breweries now.

[Giggles]

I never liked their really weird takes on stout but the basic ones are better than anywhere.

[Ian]

Yeah the Bones of a Sailor I mentioned earlier is basically just them making the best standard porter they can. No frills, no fancy flavours, and very good.

[Ian]

https://www.sirencraftbrew.com/item/367/SirenCraftBrew/Origin-Story.html

Another banger.

[Mike]

My free Hazy Jane arrived, so just opened one.

[Ian]

I might need to get in about this: https://www.sirencraftbrew.com/item/768/SirenCraftBrew/9th-Anniversary-Beer-Cheese-Pairing.html

[Baz]

Had a rare trip to Sainsburys this morning so treated myself to Fierce Maple Pancake and Tiny Rebel Pineapple Express IPA.

[Lofty]

Picked up some Paulaner Müncner Hell, nice enough.

[Ian]

I've started off with an apple saison from The Kernel and it's very decent.