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    That wasn't him, it was one of his body doubles.

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    I don't know why, but this:

    A neighbour, who was out for a walk at the famous local beauty spot, claimed Mr Cummings commented as he passed by: “Aren’t the bluebells lovely?”
    Has tickled me massively.

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    The lockdown rules are for pond life. The intelligent know what's up.

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    You wanted Memes Taz?

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    It would be a shame if he got the Diana treatment. The Brexit head man. See you later, you cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I don't know why, but this:



    Has tickled me massively.
    Seeking extraction from his handlers.

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    He’ll resign and they’ll just employ him in another guise off the books

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    But I thought what he (Cummings) did was perfectly legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Yet he was apparently the one who ordered the lockdown.
    Exactly, and now he wants it lifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    He’s a right weird cunt. Was a Dundee United fan growing up and then changed to Celtic as well.

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    They really are incredibly thick.

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    'We're going to rise above this nonsense'

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    They've actually taken a page out of Trump's playbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    They've actually taken a page out of Trump's playbook.
    Yeah they might as well just have said "fake news".

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    Who is even writing that? Is Dom writing it himself? Has the PM signed it off? Is the PM even at work?

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    Bank holiday weekend, of course he’s not. His phone is probably switched off at this point.

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    And balls deep in some whore's jizzpocket whilst lolling at all of us lot being locked down.

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    The shambles continues.

    I'm taking the calling of this one, very early doors, to my grave.

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    It feels like they are collapsing from the inside and Boris is impossibly weak. If this was Blair with Alastair Campbell (who I see is tweeting himself blue, the fucking wanker) then either Tony would have come out first up and laughed it off (as he did to save John Prescott on countless occasions), or they would have decisively dealt with it in some other way.

    I suspect everyone in the building(s) are completely shagged out after the last couple of months, which of course is when you need leadership and Boris doesn't provide any.

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    Twitter doing great detective work. This is going to be tremendous.

    Apparently with his car it’s impossible to drive to Durham without stopping, he was at Barnard Castle for his wives birthday and was in Durham a few weeks ago.

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    If they're actually caught lying, in bang to rights fashion, over how many times he's breached lockdown then their incompetence knows no bounds.

    These are the people dealing with a pandemic remember.

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    I know I am usually arch-Tory on here (because I just fundamentally despise the position, held in all left-wing politics even if they deny it, that self-appointed philosopher-kings must tell the plebs how to live their lives) and I also find Cummings a fascinating and hugely interesting character who has done more than any other individual to challenge and indeed overthrow the lazy, self-serving orthodoxy of 2000s-2010s elite British politics. I also personally don't care that he broke lockdown even though I haven't, any more than I care about any of the other millions of people who have broken lockdown, and in any case I don't care at all - lockdown was necessary but was never going to be universally adhered to.

    However, where he (and the government in defending him) have fallen short is:

    1) You can NEVER break your own rules (no matter what those rules are)
    2) If caught doing 1, you cannot EVER defend yourself. By doing so, you are basically Richard Nixon: 'If the president does it, that means it's not illegal'.

    1 was bad enough but probably salvageable; 2, as conducted over the course of today, is a disgrace. Boris is probably flapping and dithering at the moment because, having run into No 10 on the back of Cummings's acumen, he probably doesn't know how to get rid of him, or what he could put in his place if he did. I expect he will sack him in the end.

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    He didn't break their own rules.

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    I like the idea of Dom orchestrating his own sacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He didn't break their own rules.
    Ok boomer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He didn't break their own rules.
    Go on then, what did he do and what rules is he accused of breaking and why didn't he break them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He didn't break their own rules.
    Even if he didn't (which I doubt), then as a central part of the government you need to do better than finding loopholes in the smallprint. And if you do, you need to come out and be honest about it at the time. People would kind of understand then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Go on then, what did he do and what rules is he accused of breaking and why didn't he break them?
    They said the word 'vulnerable' at some point. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Go on then, what did he do and what rules is he accused of breaking and why didn't he break them?
    He took his family to be closer to people who could help out and was still able to isolate in a separate property. Idiots who haven't actually read the guidance consider this to be a breach of the rules, because they think that STAY AT HOME is some sort of waterproof law (possibly why they were all confused by it two weeks ago), when there are in fact exemptions for things like this. Did he need to drive all that way? Who knows? Did doing so break the law? No. If people are convinced that it did, why don't they just pressure the police to investigate, rather than pestering the Cabinet Secretary?

    These subsequent claims I don't know. He's calling bullshit on one of them. We'll see. But the earlier stuff is all allowed.

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    And now the Brits can understand how “seemingly competent” people voted for Trump. It has nothing to do with intelligence, and everything to do with ideological affiliation

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    24 hours of twitter hype and over two pages of this shite, you cunts. Fucking start the prem already, I'm reading legislation on Saturday night of a bank holiday.

    The regulations for the lockdown should be found here:

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/2020-03-26 (note we are looking at them as at 26/03/20 as opposed to the later versions as Don Dom was supposedly carrying out his offences around 30th March.)

    More specifically s6 seems to be the relevant section here.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...n/6/2020-03-26

    Your honour, the children do not fall under the definition of 'vulnerable people' (see s1(3)(c)) and so s6(2)(d) does not apply. s6(2)(i) is also not relevant as it isn't public services in question here.

    Your honour, the defendant has no case in our view.

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    That looks like a Don-ning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He took his family to be closer to people who could help out and was still able to isolate in a separate property. Idiots who haven't actually read the guidance consider this to be a breach of the rules, because they think that STAY AT HOME is some sort of waterproof law (possibly why they were all confused by it two weeks ago), when there are in fact exemptions for things like this. Did he need to drive all that way? Who knows? Did doing so break the law? No. If people are convinced that it did, why don't they just pressure the police to investigate, rather than pestering the Cabinet Secretary?

    These subsequent claims I don't know. He's calling bullshit on one of them. We'll see. But the earlier stuff is all allowed.
    The thing is, you take one look at all this and it's clear as day that he wanted to go to Durham, so he went to Durham. He then gets caught and has to come up with some bollocks to excuse it, so he goes for childcare - which is so obviously bollocks to anyone who isn't wearing partisan glasses.

    If that bollocks doesn't technically fit the rules as laid out then lol, if it does, then it comes across as someone stretching the boundaries who, given the position he holds, should have been so far inside them he was nailed on for a medal when this is all over.

    If it then transpires he did it again (or again and again), having used his one crap excuse up already, then a roflcopter is needed.

    Fucking amateur hour, the whole thing, and it's a bit embarrassing that you're defending it when your nose for bullshit is so keen in any other walk of life.

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    I'm defending him on the basis that he hasn't breached the guidance. Given that I don't know what childcare options he has available to him closer to his primary residence, anything else is speculation; or, rather, bullshit.

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    I'd be surprised if he hasn't breached the guidance given that is theoretically written as a dummies guide to the legislation mentioned above.

    He's certainly in breach of the latest guidance:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...an-and-cant-do

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    The reason why Lewis never actually takes a stand on any opinion he has is because he knows he can be beaten down by pretty much anything. That’s the real rookie move here. Should take a page from Trump’s playbook and just pretend like he’s never said what he’s said.

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    You mis-read the legislation above. The footnote in 6(2)(d) takes you elsewhere and covers childminding.

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    I was unsure about that but paragraph 7(3B) of Schedule 4 to the Safeguarding of Vulnerable Groups Act 2006 seems to only refer to adults. You're gonna have to break it down for me.

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    Oi you cunt, don't fucking leave me on tenterhooks here. I'm not seeinh anything in s66(2) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 either.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/section/66

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    Lewis is definitely one of them right wing bots on twitter with the Union Jack in his name.

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    As I read it, it corrects/swaps in (3)(a, b, c, d) to cover registered childcare, presumably to stop people kicking kids here, there and everywhere and making a mockery of the guidance.

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    Legislation arguments is what TTH has been missing for years.

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    Deciphering footnotes on legislation.gov.uk isn't something I've ever clocked and I've read that shit a dozen times now and it's a mindfuck. I'm sending this to my work chat tomorrow (can't do it now as it's 2am Saturday night and even to a bunch of LOTR meme sharing freaks I'm worried about my street cred) to get confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Deciphering footnotes on legislation.gov.uk isn't something I've ever clocked and I've read that shit a dozen times now and it's a mindfuck. I'm sending this to my work chat tomorrow (can't do it now as it's 2am Saturday night and even to a bunch of LOTR meme sharing freaks I'm worried about my street cred) to get confirmation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He took his family to be closer to people who could help out and was still able to isolate in a separate property. Idiots who haven't actually read the guidance consider this to be a breach of the rules, because they think that STAY AT HOME is some sort of waterproof law (possibly why they were all confused by it two weeks ago), when there are in fact exemptions for things like this. Did he need to drive all that way? Who knows? Did doing so break the law? No. If people are convinced that it did, why don't they just pressure the police to investigate, rather than pestering the Cabinet Secretary?

    These subsequent claims I don't know. He's calling bullshit on one of them. We'll see. But the earlier stuff is all allowed.
    Which is fine except;

    * The guidance clearly states that if one person is self isolating then everyone in the household does and in the primary residence/
    * He's not well enough to work and according to his wife 'was laid up on the sofa' but is okay to drive hundreds of miles to Durham
    * His sister-in-law lives in London and he apparently also has family in Oxford and Cambridge

    Even if he didn't break the rules, how does it look to other people that have been very strict about not seeing their parents. I would have loved to see my father in law over the last few weeks but didn't. I would have done if I'd known that all the guidance was bollocks that doesn't apply to senior government figures.
    Last edited by Byron; 24-05-2020 at 08:31 AM.

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    Man, I almost feel sorry for Shapps. Sky News is absolutely murdering him.

    That said, he doesn't get off scot free because Sky actually told him the questions beforehand and he's struggling.

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    Shapps still on media duty? Talk about taking one for the team. They all owe him a vineyard each.

    If Dom had any sense of theatre he would go on TV now, Clough-style, and rip them all a new one.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 24-05-2020 at 08:37 AM.

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