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    I don't think it's a great idea, but I do think you could work around it. Battle Royals tend to be no DQ anyway so you could easily have him win like that and then have an authority figure tell him if he does it again he'll be fired/fined/suspended whatever. It doesn't make it a good idea, but I don't think it would ruin him.

    Constantly booking him to lose to people like Rollins is what will ruin him.

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    Not only should Strowman barely lose, he shouldn't even wrestle that often. And when he does lose the winner out to look like they've had to put in the performance of a lifetime.

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    At the moment he’s just another Ryback. Unstoppable until there’s a title on the line.

    I really don’t like the idea of The Fiend going for a belt so fast either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    This theoretical Superman wrassler would have as good as won as soon as he laid hands on you.

    It wouldn't work as well for heel Bork but if he was a face again properly at some point like he was when he faced Rollins I think that'd be a good match structure for him against some flippy dickhead shithouse heel. Have the whole match built around the idea that if Brock gets hold of the little cretin that's as good as the match over so the whole thing is him getting by with cheap shots, hit and runs, etc.

    Speaking of big bastards, there's nothing else on this weekend's UK Takeover card I'm interested in other than maybe Banks vs. Dar but I am all over Bate vs. WALTER.
    I failed in my mission to catch up completely before it (still in March) but I like the look of it a lot.

    The only match I'm a bit meh about is Toni Storm/Kay Lee Ray purely because I've seen so little of Ray.

    Also, Cesaro is going to making an appearance:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    At the moment he’s just another Ryback. Unstoppable until there’s a title on the line.

    I really don’t like the idea of The Fiend going for a belt so fast either.
    I think they're just capitalising on 'THE FIEND OMG' and his popularity.

    Ticket sales have been really shit the last few months so I think they want a sell out.

    I don't think the match will actually happen though.

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    It's just a lose/lose situation really. If he wins, his character loses all it's mysteriousness and he just becomes the guy everyone throws themselves at to try and get the belt, rather than someone they're scared to face. If he loses, he's ruined already. He shouldn't be near the title until he's a lot more built up.

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    He should be running through someone else easily as he did with Balor, then next onto someone big/a legend over a more prolonged programme. Undertaker if you must.

    I wouldn't be giving him much of anything beyond that until the Rumble at least.

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    Agree with all of the above. I know it wasn't a complete retool but I liked how rough he looked against Balor and we need a load more of that. And then have somebody (I'll say like Reigns but obviously they wouldn't actually use him) step up to try and put an end to it, somebody that because we know how WWE work we assume will muller Bray but then the Fiend batters them.

    By the time he turns his attention on the title he should have been made to look unstoppable.

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    I could fix Roman forever, in one program. Use the comeback from cancer to cut a promo on the very concept of death. Get Undertaker to run-in and say he's there to Grim Reaper him. Have them fight (even Roman will look good compared to old man Untertaker). End of match lights go out, lights go on and Undertakers gone. Lights out, lights on and the Urn's in the middle of the ring. Roman grabs the urn and smoke comes out that he chokes on. Lights out, lights on and the rings empty.

    Next night, have Taker out of gimmick on RAW say he failed death and lost his powers. There's a new chosen one now. Roman 'Death Reigns' is your next Undertaker for the modern era. Just add that zombie sit-up suddenly thing, an old school and a chokeslam to his move set and you're done. His outfit barely has to change just pop that stupid hat on him and put a few bells in his entrance music.

    No more old man Taker and Romans lack of charisma no longer matters.

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    Regen Taker.

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    Booing Roman Reigns for like 5 straight minutes at the Raw after Wrestlemania 33 was one of the most fun moments I've ever had at any event.

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    It's also the best promo he's ever done.

    The time to have him as a heel was right there.

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    Yea they royally fucked that entire bit up.

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    WWE are good at that. Likely Rollins turning up to Pedigree Reigns, the roof going off the place because everybody gets cheered upon a return from injury and WWE sticking with him being heel.

    Or even with some of the call-ups, with them going "people like Roode's entrance music, that makes him a babyface."

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    WALTER vs. Bate is an absolutely superb match. Builds up properly, I noticed I was about 25 minutes in and nobody had kicked out of a finisher, a number of big spots got teased and built up first before they happen and even though we know Bate is strong enough to lift Walter they're earning those spots too rather than just having him chuck him about.

    Bate is far too good for NXT UK.

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    I fell asleep watching AEW. Got up to the two Japanese ladies. Riho and someone.

    Highlights were the tag match with the Party Parade, the Joey Ganella Triple Threat and Omega v Neville was pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    WALTER vs. Bate is an absolutely superb match. Builds up properly, I noticed I was about 25 minutes in and nobody had kicked out of a finisher, a number of big spots got teased and built up first before they happen and even though we know Bate is strong enough to lift Walter they're earning those spots too rather than just having him chuck him about.

    Bate is far too good for NXT UK.
    My favourite wrestling photo atm.

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    Love that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I fell asleep watching AEW. Got up to the two Japanese ladies. Riho and someone.

    Highlights were the tag match with the Party Parade, the Joey Ganella Triple Threat and Omega v Neville was pretty good.
    I hope you're going to watch the rest as it gets better from then on.

    Rhodes / Spears was about the most PRO WRESTLING thing you could have imagined, great fun from start to finish.

    The ladder match is completely insane but I reckon you won't like the main event so much.


    Royal Quest was immense, best wrestling thing I've ever seen live. So glad I got to see Tanahashi live and despite Kenta getting knocked silly halfway through, his match with Ishii was great.

    None of it was a patch on the main event though, Okada is so much better than everyone else it's barely believable and Suzuki is the perfect heel.

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    Guys, you're never going to believe this but last night on Raw tag team partners and Universal title rivals Rollings and Boatman apparently had some sort of misunderstanding!

    (Also what they did with KOTR sounds like a lot of horseshit.)

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    Heel Bayley is a fucking stupid idea. I mean, I get it that she went stale, but that was their booking issues, not issues with her. Her character just doesn't suit being a heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    I hope you're going to watch the rest as it gets better from then on.

    Rhodes / Spears was about the most PRO WRESTLING thing you could have imagined, great fun from start to finish.

    The ladder match is completely insane but I reckon you won't like the main event so much.
    Sweet.

    I'm halfway through the Cody/Spears match and will hopefully finish the event off tonight.

    Am I weird for really liking the Dark Order tag team? I just think they work great together and their match against Best Friends was great. Evil Uno really surpasses any expectations you have of him and the other guy, who is apparently called Stu Grayson, just seems awesome. The weirdness/"spooky perverts" just adds to it to. I assume they'll never fight singles matches, judging off the roster.
    I'm a twit

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    Dark Order do look fun, I really hope they go down the multiple stables / groups route.

    I started NXT Cardiff last night, Cesaro / Dragunov is an absolute belter. Cesaro looked amazing and Dragunov is like Kyle O'Reilly turned up to fifteen, handled right (lol) he could be the real deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    Heel Bayley is a fucking stupid idea. I mean, I get it that she went stale, but that was their booking issues, not issues with her. Her character just doesn't suit being a heel.
    It is imperative that the inflatable tube things get angry faces added to them.

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    I enjoyed Cesaro / Dragunov. Though the "he swung him 40 times!" thing is, as ever, stupid because apparently wrestling fans not being able to count is an international thing.

    Still got the main event to come.

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    It only gets better if the fans count in the seven languages Cesaro can speak.

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    Expect a lot of Jericho in your Botchamania this week.


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    The end to that O'Shea / Jeff match. Jesus Christ.

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    Just watched NXT from last week.

    Dijakovic/Lee



    Big men doing little men shit

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    Apparently the AEW World Title has been legit stolen.

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    It has to be a work surely?

    Next challenger rocks up at the first TV taping probably a debut.

    Edit: Is Marty off contract soon?

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    I totally failed to watch last week's NXT. I wonder Has Lee won a match that wasn't a squash against a jobber yet?

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    Proper love Jericho at the moment. If only for the memes. He’s just fantastic.

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    how do you not love Jericho? Guy could get a can of Axe bodyspray over.

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    A little bit of the bubbly.

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    Winner/

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    Sure about that.


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    I hope that's Bork's new entrance theme.

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    Just watched NXT UK: Cardiff.

    Huge step up from Blackpool with some seriously great matches.

    For me only Kay Lee Ray/Toni Storm failed to deliver. The crowd wasn't in to it, I don't really care for Kay Lee Ray and the finish felt really flat and unexpected.

    Bate/Walter is a MOTY candidate, it was stunning. The Tyler driver that Bate hit was just beautiful too.

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    Probably best WWE match since Bate / Dunne in Blackpool. I was trying to think of the last match I'd have close to it and the best I could do was Lynch/ Flair at Evolution.

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    I don't think I saw Bate/Dunne. I'll have to watch it.

    It's right up there with Ciampa/Gargano the unsanctioned match.

    To think that Bate is only 22 (and Dunne 25) is crazy.

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    NXT Chicago 2017 is the one you're after. A relatively breezy 15 minutes compared to Bate / Walter but you absolutely won't regret it. A proper classic

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    Sounds like Raw was actually pretty decent last night.

    Surprised that Jezza won that match though, I assumed all this nonsense was to stack the odds against O'Shea ahead of a win. I wonder if this will now mean they're going for Gable as it's had the feel of setting up for a babyface win to me... but that would mean treating Gable seriously (in matches if not in backstage bits) for a full month which seems unlikely.

    King Jezza it is then. Sigh.

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    Yeah, Raw's ratings bombed when he was a central figure in it through last year but let's push him again. Fans definitely want more Jezza this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Yeah, Raw's ratings bombed when he was a central figure in it through last year but let's push him again. Fans definitely want more Jezza this time.
    Without Jezza the fans would have been non-existent.

    It's not his fault everyone else around him is hated.

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    I've said this before but his whole WWE career path has been fucking bizarre.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Yeah, saw that.

    If true then ol' Jezza's career path in WWE has been a bit mental.

    - NXT career that never really took off
    - Called up to main roster. Probably as one of them "this'll make him or break him" type call-ups like Elias.
    - Largely midcard nothingness with no real threat of a proper push outside some decent performances in matches with a few people in or more
    - MITB winner!
    - Jobbed out and made to look a mug when he tries to cash in and back to midcard obscurity he goes
    - "The Constable"
    - Blamed for basically all of Raw's ills and jobs, like, all the time
    - Suddenly involved in a stuff with big names
    - Retires one of the greatest ever with a clean win
    - Being nudged towards the main event again
    Add to that:
    - Universal Title shits, and co-feud with Evans against Rollins and Lynch.
    - Lost the above feud handily amid terrible reviews* and plummeting ratings, but immediately gets very strong KOTR push.

    * I will say that you look at this tournament and have to ask if there's any reason he and Rollins couldn't have just been given a normal match rather than the gimmicky, pedestrian crap. Even against the Miz, a match I would not have selected as a potential winner, was really solid.

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    WWE are apparently doing a 'Worlds Collide' show Rumble weekend rather than a proper Takeover.

    That said I'm guessing there are going to be more Takeovers anyway as part of the new TV deal. Or a TV special equivalent, dunno what the deal entails.

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    I'd think they'll be PPVs like the main roster ones.

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