Rostock?Originally Posted by thommo
Rostock?
They're not Rot Weiss Essen. Someone's said Hansa Rostock (quick fire Luca), haven't they? Paderborn. Augsburg?
Big fan of pro/semi-pro factory sides, perhaps due to the Arsenal’s history as one. The Isthmian/NPL and their feeder leagues used to have a fair few - particularly enjoyed looking out for Cray Valley Paper Mills and Atherton Colleries in the FA Cup qualifiers.
Sorry guys, neglected this over the weekend. Unfortunately it was none of the teams mentioned, the German side left was Eintracht Braunschweig. The two French sides were Olympique Lillois and Roubaix-Tourcoing, who won it in the 30s and 40s. Full list:
England
Sheffield United - 1897-98
West Bromwich Albion - 1919-20
Ipswich Town - 1961-62
Nottingham Forest - 1977-78
Leicester City - 2015-16
France
Olympique Lillois - 1932-33
RCF Paris - 1935-36
Roubaix-Tourcoing - 1946-47
Strasbourg - 1978-79
Auxerre - 1995-96
Lens - 1997-98
Montpellier - 2011-12
Germany
1860 Munich - 1965-66
Eintracht Braunschweig - 1966-67
FC Nürnberg - 1967-68
Wolfsburg - 2008-09
Italy
Cagliari - 1969-70
Hellas Verona - 1984-85
Sampdoria - 1990-91
Spain
Real Betis - 1934-35
Sevilla - 1945-46
Deportivo La Coruna - 1999-2000
In the post-war era, there have been 51 players to have been capped by England whilst not playing the First Division/Premier League. Can you name them all?
Last edited by thommo; 10-03-2020 at 08:22 AM.
Steve Bull
Owen Hargreaves
Jadon Sancho
Is this just their first cap, or could they have been capped in First Division/Premier League and then moved overseas, and then still capped while playing in another league?
It's for any caps earned in their career.
Beckham
Owen
Woodgate
Mcmanaman
Trippier
Linekar
Platt
Gazza
Paul Ince
Joe Cole
Jack Butland
Beckham earned the most away from the top division of England with 55 caps.
Keegan
Des Walker
Wasnt there quite a few players who went over to Italy during the 80s and 90s. A few more names I can think of. Not even sure if there were english
Ray Winstone
Ray Wilkins
Razor Rudduck
John Collins
A black man who commentates serie a games
Hargreaves
Bothroyd
Nugent
Sincere, are you taking about Paul Elliott?
Edit; I have just noticed the other names ffs
Ray Winstone
Laurie Cunningham
Alan Thompson
Im just guessing lads.
Matt Le Tissier
Hoddle
Waddle
Cowans
Woods
Butcher
Steven
Stevens
Terry Butcher
Jimmy Greaves
Bob Hoskins
OK ive googled my names. My fault
Corrected.
Jason Statham
Barry McGuigan
David Coulthard
Did Joe Hart get capped while at Torino? Do loans count?
Trevor Francis
Clive Allen
Kevin Phillips
Michael Gray
Gavin McCann
Oh! Wasn’t there a whole thing about Zaha being capped while still in the Championship for Palace (before he switched nationalities).
Hargreaves
Bothroyd
Nugent
Sincere, are you taking about Paul Elliott?
Edit; I have just noticed the other names ffsBothroyd and Nugent, what a time that was.Ray Winstone
Laurie Cunningham
Alan Thompson
He wasn't on my original list, but you're right - 8 caps that season. Takes it to a round 50 players.
Good shout on Zaha, thought that one might fly under the radar.
Didn’t Rooney get a token one while at DC?
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Kevin Keegan – 25 caps – 1977-80 – Hamburg
Laurie Cunningham – 3 caps – 1980 – Real Madrid
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Trevor Francis – 22 caps – 1978-79, 1982-86 – Detroit Express, Sampdoria
Ray Wilkins – 22 caps – 1984-86 – AC Milan
Gordon Cowans – 2 caps – 1986 – Bari
Glenn Hoddle – 9 caps – 1987-88 – Monaco
Gary Lineker – 24 caps – 1986-89 – Barcelona
Terry Butcher – 32 caps – 1986-90 - Rangers
Steve Bull – 13 caps – 1989-90 – Wolverhampton Wanderers
Chris Woods – 20 caps – 1986-91 - Rangers
Chris Waddle – 17 caps – 1989-91 – Marseille
Mark Walters – 1 cap – 1991 – Rangers
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Gary Stevens – 20 caps – 1988-92 - Rangers
Trevor Steven – 12 caps – 1989-92 – Rangers, Marseille
Des Walker – 11 caps – 1992-93 – Sampdoria
David Platt – 33 caps – 1991-95 – Bari, Juventus, Sampdoria
Paul Ince – 17 caps – 1995-97 – Inter Milan
Paul Gascoigne – 32 caps – 1992-98 – Lazio, Rangers
Michael Gray – 3 caps – 1999 – Sunderland
Kevin Phillips – 1 cap – 1999 – Sunderland
Steve McManaman – 13 caps – 1999-2001 – Real Madrid
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Alan Thompson – 1 cap – 2004 - Celtic
Michael Owen – 11 caps – 2004-05 – Real Madrid
Owen Hargreaves – 39 caps – 2001-07 – Bayern Munich
David Nugent – 1 cap – 2007 – Preston North End
David Beckham – 55 caps – 2003-09 – Real Madrid, LA Galaxy, AC Milan
Jay Bothroyd – 1 cap – 2010 – Cardiff City
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Wilfried Zaha – 2 caps – 2012-13 – Crystal Palace
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Joe Hart – 8 caps – 2016-17 – Torino
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Jack Butland – 3 caps – 2012, 2018 – Birmingham City, Stoke City
Wayne Rooney – 1 cap – 2018 – DC United
Jadon Sancho – 11 caps – 2018-present – Borussia Dortmund
Kieran Trippier – 3 caps – 2019-present – Atletico Madrid
There must have been shit tons in the post war years. Brian Clough?
Mason Mount.
Surprisingly, not that many. Clough is one though, 2 caps in 1959.
Earned his first cap after he returned to Chelsea.
Mark Hately
Luther Blisset
Trevor Francis
Jimmy Graves
Joe Hart
Paul Ince
Des Walker
Ray Wilkins
Laurie Cunningham
Dave Watson
Michael Carrick
Jermain Defoe
David James
Scott Carson.
All said so far apart from Hateley and Blissett.
12 left, 2 in this millenium.
Oxlade Chamberlain's pops
Des Walker
Laurrie Cunningham
Tony Woodcock
Johnny Haynes
Eric Dier
Alan Mullery
Scott Parker?
Thel Lionel Richie commentator for soccer Saturday. He also appears on a betting advert
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Kris Kamara
Jay Bothroyd
Neil Mellor
Walker and Cunningham have already been said. Chamberlain played for England immediately after his move to the top division.
Parker misses out by 2 days. He moved to Spurs on the 31st August 2011, and played for England on the 2nd September.
After Jimmy's comment, I've done a bit of delving and there do appear to be a few more answers not on my list. If you get them, I'll add them in.
Can you update the list?
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Johnny Haynes – 32 caps – 1954-59 - Fulham
Brian Clough – 2 caps – 1959 - Middlesbrough
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David Watson – 4 caps – 1979 – Werder Bremen
Kevin Keegan – 25 caps – 1977-80 – Hamburg
Laurie Cunningham – 3 caps – 1980 – Real Madrid
Tony Woodcock – 17 caps – 1979-82 – FC Köln
Luther Blissett – 5 caps – 1983-84 – AC Milan
Trevor Francis – 22 caps – 1978-79, 1982-86 – Detroit Express, Sampdoria
Ray Wilkins – 22 caps – 1984-86 – AC Milan
Gordon Cowans – 2 caps – 1986 – Bari
Glenn Hoddle – 9 caps – 1987-88 – Monaco
Gary Lineker – 24 caps – 1986-89 – Barcelona
Terry Butcher – 32 caps – 1986-90 - Rangers
Steve Bull – 13 caps – 1989-90 – Wolverhampton Wanderers
Chris Woods – 20 caps – 1986-91 - Rangers
Chris Waddle – 17 caps – 1989-91 – Marseille
Mark Walters – 1 cap – 1991 – Rangers
Mark Hateley – 28 caps – 1984-92 – AC Milan, Monaco, Rangers
Gary Stevens – 20 caps – 1988-92 - Rangers
Trevor Steven – 12 caps – 1989-92 – Rangers, Marseille
Des Walker – 11 caps – 1992-93 – Sampdoria
David Platt – 33 caps – 1991-95 – Bari, Juventus, Sampdoria
Paul Ince – 17 caps – 1995-97 – Inter Milan
Paul Gascoigne – 32 caps – 1992-98 – Lazio, Rangers
Michael Gray – 3 caps – 1999 – Sunderland
Kevin Phillips – 1 cap – 1999 – Sunderland
Steve McManaman – 13 caps – 1999-2001 – Real Madrid
David James – 4 caps – 2003 – West Ham United
Alan Thompson – 1 cap – 2004 - Celtic
Michael Owen – 11 caps – 2004-05 – Real Madrid
Owen Hargreaves – 39 caps – 2001-07 – Bayern Munich
David Nugent – 1 cap – 2007 – Preston North End
David Beckham – 55 caps – 2003-09 – Real Madrid, LA Galaxy, AC Milan
Jay Bothroyd – 1 cap – 2010 – Cardiff City
Scott Carson – 1 cap – 2011 - Bursaspor
Wilfried Zaha – 2 caps – 2012-13 – Crystal Palace
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Joe Hart – 8 caps – 2016-17 – Torino
Jack Butland – 3 caps – 2012, 2018 – Birmingham City, Stoke City
Wayne Rooney – 1 cap – 2018 – DC United
Jadon Sancho – 11 caps – 2018-present – Borussia Dortmund
Kieran Trippier – 3 caps – 2019-present – Atletico Madrid
Last edited by thommo; 11-03-2020 at 08:14 AM.
Tony Dorigo
Jonathan Woodgate
Fraser Forster
Mick Channon
Just one recent player left to get.
Channon was somehow not on my list, but that's right, 26 caps while in the Second Division.
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