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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Who else is hiring those people?
    Data analytics people??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    Why didn’t he just .......... drink it
    Get kicked out for skulling

    Last edited by Queenslander; 13-02-2021 at 03:47 AM.

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    You’d get kicked out for finishing your beer you’ve paid for they’re not allowing you to leave with? This is a rule for real?

    I’ve never felt more sad

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    I mean that’s two gulps innit

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    Sorry I was taking the piss out of our very real no skulling rules at live sport.

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    I definitely broke that rule watching the Socceroos beat the UAE at the old Sydney Football Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    I definitely broke that rule watching the Socceroos beat the UAE at the old Sydney Football Stadium.
    It is definitely a newish rule say last 5-10 years.

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    Harvey Heavar @Yevrah will love that.

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    Protect (us from) the NHS

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    Nipped into the local SM for milk and it was absolutely heaving, even by Saturday standards.

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    All the geezers that forgot about Valentines Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Harvey Heavar @Yevrah will love that.
    I mean, I'd got there first when my Gran caught it and I started looking. I don't even think that includes care homes either. It's a bit of a joke really and makes the numbers portray a far more transmissable and deadly virus than it actually is and also makes our lockdowns and other efforts look far less effective than they actually are.

    Then I think about the outrage when 45 staff at Wetherspoons caught it over, what, 2 months, across their entire estate - and it just makes me angry. If the R in hospitals is anything like 14 (I mean, FFS), we need two sets of data, one in care environments and one not, with the one not used as the basis for how we make our decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I mean, I'd got there first when my Gran caught it and I started looking. I don't even think that includes care homes either. It's a bit of a joke really and makes the numbers portray a far more transmissable and deadly virus than it actually is and also makes our lockdowns and other efforts look far less effective than they actually are.

    Then I think about the outrage when 45 staff at Wetherspoons caught it over, what, 2 months, across their entire estate - and it just makes me angry. If the R in hospitals is anything like 14 (I mean, FFS), we need two sets of data, one in care environments and one not, with the one not used as the basis for how we make our decisions.
    From what I can see it doesn't account for care homes and that figures for them can't be far off the hospital ones. It really does make our efforts look largely pointless.

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    I saw good old Deepti (probably the most dishonest person on Twitter) saying the other day that there would be another 150,000 deaths by July if we lifted any restrictions, or something (she has a proper lob on for keeping schools closed forever, for reasons I can't explain). Then you take one look at the assumptions made in the modelling and it turns out to be complete bollocks, such as assuming 1m vaccines a week (we are currently over 3m) or assuming all restrictions and social distancing lifted at once.

    These people are proper charlatans.

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    With the hospital spread, though, it places the importance on keeping folks out of hospital in the first place. Big wave = Big occupancy which is why you really have to have a vaccine good enough to keep the prime candidates from winding up on a ward.

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    Which is great, but we're now looking at a vast majority of cases coming from within the communities we've spent a year of our lives apparently protecting.

    At the very least this points to their PPE being ineffective. Put the cunts in Ebola gear and open the clubs.

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    We could have had less deaths just closing hospitals and letting people die at home/in the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Which is great, but we're now looking at a vast majority of cases coming from within the communities we've spent a year of our lives apparently protecting.

    At the very least this points to their PPE being ineffective. Put the cunts in Ebola gear and open the clubs.
    I was dating a nurse before the last lockdown started and she had all the Ebola gear. They don't know how it's getting in.

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    My latest gripe about all this has a perfectly timed article this morning.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56050119

    If scientists can't properly explain why we shouldn't be opening up when x% of the population has been vaccinated I don't want to hear from them. I also definitely don't want to hear from them when they're using the argument of 'opening everything up at once' in their assessment, literally no one is suggesting we do that, not even Don.

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    The arguments 'scientists' are putting forward are basically writ-large versions of when you go for a checkup at the doctor and he tells you to cut out alcohol, stop eating chips and stop smoking your two cigars a year. Yes, his recommendations are healthier, but also fuck his recommendations.

    That's the way doctors think, though - eliminate all risk. You can't involve them in running society.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-56039285

    Home page worthy news, that. Fuck off.

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    The BBC absolutely love it. They’ll be gutted when we go back to normal.

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    Disband the BBC immediately.

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    The state of that littering. Fine the lot of them.

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    My mum got the vax today and she's only 63 and has no conditions or anything. Must be rattling through them round 'ere.

    Cases at lowest level since early October. Another 2 weeks of this and there will be 2 or 3 times the vaccine effect that there is now. We're on one.

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    Good news Jim. Means we'll be out of lockdown by Autumn 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-56039285

    Home page worthy news, that. Fuck off.
    Compare and contrast...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56054975

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    Back on the WHO being a mouthpiece for China.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56054468

    They didn't even have access to the raw data on the early patients, yet somehow their first communication was not shouting about that, but this:

    it was "extremely unlikely" that the virus leaked from a lab in the city of Wuhan.
    Trump was absolutely right to remove funding, they are a complete shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I hope I'll have a once-every-so-many-years experience at some point in my life.

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    It's the most Dutch thing ever that they all have the skating gear and seemingly costumes.

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    Wor Mam and Wor Dad have now been vaccinated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Shameless.

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    They really are an absolute shithouse of an organisation at this point.

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    Fucking Hell Giggles

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    I know the Irish like to chance their arm from time to time but good grief.

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    Auckland back in lockdown. There really is no beating this thing.

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    Our thoughts are with you at this difficult time

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
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    I know the Irish like to chance their arm from time to time but good grief.
    Obviously most of them will be taking the piss, but in fairness, expecting people to just live with toothache is one of many ridiculous decisions taken during this mess.

    I was actually in Dublin (love a neat link) last time I got toothache. Ended up in the bathroom at 4am, on my knees with my forehead on the floor, fighting the urge to scream.

    I would have flown to Australia for a dentist if that's what it took.

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    On balance, I think I would rather wear masks in the shops forever than be sent into a 5 day lockdown at zero notice every time there is 1 case.

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    It will be interesting to see where the Madagascar approach comes unstuck, because this shit isn't going away.

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    We all know from playing the Pandemic games that once you get Madagascar you're on the way to victory.

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    In theory, I don't see why vaccines would affect their 'elimination' policy as it currently stands, unless their politicians made an arbitrary decision to change it (people will still die of CV post vaccine, just in tiny numbers, either through vax refusal or being unlucky).

    Then you think that there are scientists here who want to eliminate it and you realise how deranged they are / that they have another agenda.

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    On Saturday night a senior Government source confirmed that from March 8, people in England will be allowed to drink coffee on a park bench or have a picnic with anyone from their own household, or with another person on a one-to-one basis.
    Cry liberty. I mean ffs.

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    I’ve stayed away from Twitter in all of this but yesterday I signed up and came across the zero COVID bunch. There’s one woman on there who is adamant we must eliminate the jab and that it can only be done via vaccination. She then predicts, in another tweet, it may take 6 years to vaccinate the entire global population.

    Is she suggesting what I think she is suggesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It will be interesting to see where the Madagascar approach comes unstuck, because this shit isn't going away.
    The Australians and the Kiwis will hold out the longest. The Kiwis because they'll wear it as some sort of weird badge of honour, the Aussies because a good slice of them flat out don't like people arriving in their country through accepted methods of international transportation in the best of times.

    Our public health mob are still making the right sort of sounds about managing things with testing etc rather gunning for ZERO COVID again, but it remains to be seen whether they hold to that [in the face of almost guaranteed vocal minority opposition to such a policy].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    On balance, I think I would rather wear masks in the shops forever than be sent into a 5 day lockdown at zero notice every time there is 1 case.
    I'm actually Pro mask because it means I can hide the majority of my face which is useful if you're nursing a hangover.

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    Because it's Sunday morning and I needed something less morbid to distract me from the cricket, I did a calculation of the rate of deaths decline from the peak in this lockdown vs the peak in the first lockdown.

    From the deaths peak on 19 Jan up until 7 Feb, my estimate is that around 900 lives have so far been saved relative to what you would have expected using the rate of daily decline from the first lockdown.

    There is even more of a stark effect when you consider that until 30 January, the same process estimates that 100 extra lives were lost compared to the first lockdown. So in the 8 days from 30 Jan - 7 Feb, my estimate is that around 1,000 UK lives were somehow saved.



    It'll be interesting to see if this trend continues.

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    Label your axis and mark your day 0 as the peak of both waves (if that is indeed the case). Given the second peak is greater though, the comparison seems to be grossly unfair if you're simply going off deaths. Change it to a relative proportion to cases/deaths in previous day/week maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I'm actually Pro mask because it means I can hide the majority of my face which is useful if you're nursing a hangover.
    You never show your true face anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Label your axis and mark your day 0 as the peak of both waves (if that is indeed the case). Given the second peak is greater though, the comparison seems to be grossly unfair if you're simply going off deaths. Change it to a relative proportion to cases/deaths in previous day/week maybe?
    I'm not labelling my axes ffs, this is supposed to be an intelligent community. But yes 0 is the peak and x is days after peak.

    It shows % of the respective peaks, that seems fair to me?

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