User Tag List

Page 210 of 581 FirstFirst ... 110160200208209210211212220260310 ... LastLast
Results 10,451 to 10,500 of 29008

Thread: Coronavirus Death Thread

  1. #10451
    Senior Member Queenslander's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    5,560
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    NSW Premier "I call on all organisations not to interact with citizens from Melbourne at this stage," Ms Berejiklian said.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...ourne/12383626

    She backed accommodation owners and operators taking it upon themselves to bar Melbourne travellers, reiterating that vendors are "at liberty to accept or reject any traveller".

    "I would definitely encourage organisations to consider who to allow on their premises and where they're coming from," she said.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 23-06-2020 at 04:52 AM.

  2. #10452
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,303
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    For what, tens of infections? You people are going quite mad.

  3. #10453
    Senior Member Queenslander's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    5,560
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    For what, tens of infections? You people are going quite mad.
    All the Premiers have outed themselves as small time wankers.

    It is all quite funny though.

    Edit: By the end of the year we might need British intervention as we become more bitter about imaginary state borders.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 23-06-2020 at 06:58 AM.

  4. #10454
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Locking down

  5. #10455
    Administrator Kikó's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Laaaaaandan
    Posts
    12,150
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sama has had to go back to the office today and he's absolutely distraught. Enjoy it while you can.

  6. #10456
    The Artist Formerly Known as Taz
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    8,630
    Mentioned
    108 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Today is like those movie scenes of people huddling around the wireless for Churchill's address. It will be today, right? My God, we'll put the US' 4th July celebrations to shame. There'll be lines racked stretching from Land's End to John o'Groats (except it'll stop at Hadrian's wall cause fucking lol at MJ and Waff).

  7. #10457
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,303
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Sama has had to go back to the office today and he's absolutely distraught. Enjoy it while you can.
    Distraught about having to go to the office, or just in general?

  8. #10458
    Webly Ian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    20,654
    Mentioned
    123 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    When I've spoken to him he's been quite enjoying not having to commute, etc. so probably the former.

  9. #10459
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Working from home looks like it's going to be permanent for me.

    They're moving all the people that HAVE to work from an office into ours as it's easier to Social Distance. The other office is still not being used and it's rented, where as they own ours.

    I can see them letting the other office go and sticking with this. They keep referring to working from home as 'the new business as usual' anyway.

  10. #10460
    Senior Member Waffdon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,798
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sounds like I could get 4 days a week home working whenever the office opens up

  11. #10461
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    With everyone working from home, how long before companies realise that some people sitting out in Mumbai can do the same thing for a tenth of the cost?

  12. #10462
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,303
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This whole thing is a cost-cutting dream, that's for sure.

  13. #10463
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    With everyone working from home, how long before companies realise that some people sitting out in Mumbai can do the same thing for a tenth of the cost?
    Thankfully my role involves home visits and court hearings, but yes, ropey ground for fulltime office plebs.

  14. #10464
    The Artist Formerly Known as Taz
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    8,630
    Mentioned
    108 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Problems will arise with it all in the long-run but hopefully this is the beginning of the collapse of the system. Hello UBI, my old friend.

  15. #10465
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,303
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    UBI is the doomsday scenario, a total disincentive to work, the modern student lefty's wet dream.

  16. #10466
    Fuck like you cook.
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Posts
    2,107
    Mentioned
    28 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't really get the left or right, I think I'd be more in the centre (possibly why I've grown disillusioned with labour tbh) but I don't support UBI for that very reason Jimmy although as I say that, I think if they did that at the beginning of this pandemic instead of these silly schemes then we'd be much better placed as a country to get the economy back up and running but it should only have been temporary.

    I don't get government as for me it's not hard. Support in the bad times, invest in the good times and listen to the public, show some humility, admit to mistakes and stop politicking. Then it gets so much better in my mind.

  17. #10467
    The Artist Formerly Known as Taz
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    8,630
    Mentioned
    108 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    UBI is the doomsday scenario
    Precisely why I tout it. You can chuck your incentivisation of work into the same bin as need for economic growth. We stand on the edge of the precipice and it is beautiful.

  18. #10468
    More successful than most Magic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Scotchland
    Posts
    17,921
    Mentioned
    72 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The lols when orgs give up their office space and come crawling back when their operation falls apart because people are mostly lazy, demotivated cunts.

    Landlord's wet dream at those £££s.

  19. #10469
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yep. It’s never going to work, the world isn’t ready for it yet.

    The “keeping an eye on...” mentality is far from gone.
    Last edited by Giggles; 23-06-2020 at 12:30 PM.

  20. #10470
    More successful than most Magic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Scotchland
    Posts
    17,921
    Mentioned
    72 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Yep. It’s never going to work, the world isn’t ready for it yet.
    It never will be.

    Though I wonder if that 100% subordination works in Asia. Jim, do Koreans etc work from home or are they not trusted to?

  21. #10471
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,303
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not a chance do they work from home. They don't even go there if they can avoid it. Home is for women to cook and raise the children.

  22. #10472
    Senior Member Boydy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,592
    Mentioned
    78 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Yep. It’s never going to work, the world isn’t ready for it yet.

    The “keeping an eye on...” mentality is far from gone.
    There are plenty of technological ways to "keep an eye on" your staff if you want.

  23. #10473
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,972
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    There are plenty of technological ways to "keep an eye on" your staff if you want.
    What are these? I'd be surprised if businesses didn't already have them in place.

  24. #10474
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    They do. Mine does, anyway. But they're easy enough to play if you know what they're monitoring.

  25. #10475
    Senior Member Lofty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    5,380
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    With everyone working from home, how long before companies realise that some people sitting out in Mumbai can do the same thing for a tenth of the cost?
    Definite potential for that in the long run I think. Thankfully I'm a specialist in a niche industry even native English speakers from the same industry have trouble grasping so would hope mine won't be outsourced.

  26. #10476
    More successful than most Magic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Scotchland
    Posts
    17,921
    Mentioned
    72 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    They do. Mine does, anyway. But they're easy enough to play if you know what they're monitoring.
    Exactly. They can't monitor your own personal laptop at home can they? Or your smartphone? There's no way humans can be trusted to work from home unless their job involves self-sufficience (i.e sales) or 121 client dealings or something where you can work when you want for as much as you want as long as you hit target/deadlines etc.

    The vast majority will be bored as fuck and will lose faith when they can't small talk or get a hold of people to ask questions.

  27. #10477
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Exactly. They can't monitor your own personal laptop at home can they? Or your smartphone? There's no way humans can be trusted to work from home unless their job involves self-sufficience (i.e sales) or 121 client dealings or something where you can work when you want for as much as you want as long as you hit target/deadlines etc.

    The vast majority will be bored as fuck and will lose faith when they can't small talk or get a hold of people to ask questions.
    I use a remote desktop on my personal laptop, but all they monitor is 'cases worked' and 'actions performed'. An action can be anything from sending a 1 line email to typing up 5 years of rent history for a court hearing. If I send 20 emails it looks like I've been busy as fuck.

  28. #10478
    Senior Member Boydy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,592
    Mentioned
    78 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What are these? I'd be surprised if businesses didn't already have them in place.
    Many probably don't yet as they weren't prepared for a massive shift to working from home but if they decide to go down that route on a more permanent basis, you'll probably see them being brought in.

    There's software that can measure click rates, typing rates, what windows are active and for how long, eye tracking via a webcam etc.

    Pretty much anything you do on a computer could be quantified and sent back to your employers.

  29. #10479
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,972
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I use a remote desktop on my personal laptop, but all they monitor is 'cases worked' and 'actions performed'. An action can be anything from sending a 1 line email to typing up 5 years of rent history for a court hearing. If I send 20 emails it looks like I've been busy as fuck.
    This is the sort of stuff I was getting at.

    EDIT: And what Boydy's decribed.

  30. #10480
    Won the Old Board Lewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Hull
    Posts
    27,078
    Mentioned
    132 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Nobody actually wants to work from home. They think they do, because they've had two months of it where you can't do fuck all else anyway, but as soon as things are back to normal people will be falling over themselves to get back into offices. I suspect it would be an even stronger urge at management level as well, since mass home-working would chew those traditional structures up.

  31. #10481
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,972
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Nobody actually wants to work from home. They think they do, because they've had two months of it where you can't do fuck all else anyway, but as soon as things are back to normal people will be falling over themselves to get back into offices. I suspect it would be an even stronger urge at management level as well, since mass home-working would chew those traditional structures up.
    It's properly short sighted when you hear businesses expert wankers talk about offices being closed. They may be in the short term, but as soon as everyone realises what a huge mistake that is they'll be back.

    There's a balance to be struck, but working from home, all day, every day is dogshit. For both the employer and employee.

  32. #10482
    Bookie Sir Andy Mahowry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    40,772
    Mentioned
    105 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Djokovic has the 'rona.

  33. #10483
    Bookie Sir Andy Mahowry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    40,772
    Mentioned
    105 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    At least he had a good time though.

  34. #10484
    Senior Member Boydy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    12,592
    Mentioned
    78 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Flexibility is the ideal. My last job let us do two days a week from home and that was a good balance. My current place (pre-lockdown) didn't have anything set in stone but would allow it now and again if you needed to and our managers here are sound anyway. We've been talking about having it as more of a thing when when we get back to normal though (probably along the lines of two days a week wfh) as most people quite like but don't want to be completely isolated too.

  35. #10485
    Administrator Kikó's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Laaaaaandan
    Posts
    12,150
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    With everyone working from home, how long before companies realise that some people sitting out in Mumbai can do the same thing for a tenth of the cost?
    That's not new though - having low cost locations is a strategy well walked.

    I think what could be new is having a dispersed workforce so you don't need as much office space in prime locations yet still can hire people from further away. I hope the wfh balance comes in rather than it being every day, the community aspect of remote working is completely lost.

  36. #10486
    More successful than most Magic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Scotchland
    Posts
    17,921
    Mentioned
    72 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Monitoring click rates OMFG.

  37. #10487
    Isn't he banned? Baz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    15,017
    Mentioned
    199 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    4th July also a pretty big day on World Of Warcraft too. Can’t wait to collect all my Midsummer event rewards!
    I'm a twit

  38. #10488
    ram it up your shitpipe Giggles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    30,456
    Mentioned
    138 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Everyone is just feeling lazy and they want to still be able to watch Netflix all day. This will never catch on the way people hope.

  39. #10489
    Senior Member niko_cee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    17,942
    Mentioned
    45 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Surely the thing with working from home is that, at least in professional/service industries, it works well once you have the necessary expertise to essentially be a consultant, but it doesn't work to actually get people (ie young people) to have those said skills in the first place. So you can probably have a proportion of your non-super-career focused (ie don't want to be the boss/partner/junior VP/whatever) mid-level pros on a semi-permanent WFH basis, but you also probably need a centralised corps to win work, supervise/train up the feckless n00bs and generally oversee the successful functioning of the business etc.

    Also, the arse completely falling out of commercial property/major city markets will probably have catastrophic knock-on effects in terms of pension/investment exposures to said industry, not to mention all the ancillary jobs city centres support.

  40. #10490
    Administrator SvN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    6,574
    Mentioned
    89 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I worked from home for 5 years, and I was well and truly done with it by the end of it. It was great at first, but you really need the separation between your homelife and workplace. 1 or 2 days a week might be alright, but I much prefer being in the office.

  41. #10491
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Nobody actually wants to work from home. They think they do, because they've had two months of it where you can't do fuck all else anyway, but as soon as things are back to normal people will be falling over themselves to get back into offices. I suspect it would be an even stronger urge at management level as well, since mass home-working would chew those traditional structures up.
    My day has been split between my desk and the paddling pool.

    I want to work from home.

  42. #10492
    Senior Member Manc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    6,571
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  43. #10493
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Surely the thing with working from home is that, at least in professional/service industries, it works well once you have the necessary expertise to essentially be a consultant, but it doesn't work to actually get people (ie young people) to have those said skills in the first place. So you can probably have a proportion of your non-super-career focused (ie don't want to be the boss/partner/junior VP/whatever) mid-level pros on a semi-permanent WFH basis, but you also probably need a centralised corps to win work, supervise/train up the feckless n00bs and generally oversee the successful functioning of the business etc.

    Also, the arse completely falling out of commercial property/major city markets will probably have catastrophic knock-on effects in terms of pension/investment exposures to said industry, not to mention all the ancillary jobs city centres support.
    We have a new girl starting next Wednesday. She comes from a non-housing background and will be trained by Skype whilst looking after her 2 kids.

    I'm stressed out just by the thought of it.

  44. #10494
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    1,232
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Many probably don't yet as they weren't prepared for a massive shift to working from home but if they decide to go down that route on a more permanent basis, you'll probably see them being brought in.

    There's software that can measure click rates, typing rates, what windows are active and for how long, eye tracking via a webcam etc.

    Pretty much anything you do on a computer could be quantified and sent back to your employers.
    Yep my missus place measure how long any inactive periods are on your computer - mouse or keyboard not moving and if it’s more than a couple of minutes they want to know why.

  45. #10495
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    "I was on the phone"

    Although luckily my place don't do that.

  46. #10496
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    1,232
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think it’s more about being flexible. What this has proved for me is I can do a lot over the phone or via video call with clients. Then I can go to the office early miss the traffic do my 6/7 hours and then once that’s done do calls and stuff with clients in the afternoon from home rather than seeing face to face which makes me more productive and also gives me a better work-balance which is good.

    Moving forwards I think I will only be doing client appointments in office or via video call and won’t be seeing people at their homes any more which is better for me.

  47. #10497
    Senior Member Jimmy Floyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    35,303
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The cricket community is currently in meltdown as, after we had been repeatedly briefed over the last few weeks and even up until this morning for a possible 4 July restart in some form, Boris has stood up in the Commons and said cricket is still banned because the cricket ball is 'a natural vector of disease'.

    Meltdown notwithstanding, it is starting to look as though that may not actually be the position at all and he was just waffling bullshit that came into his head. #MyPM

  48. #10498
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    21,972
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You can get your hair cut? The Premier League can play football? But you can't play cricket?

    Fuck me.

  49. #10499
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    1,232
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The cricket community is currently in meltdown as, after we had been repeatedly briefed over the last few weeks and even up until this morning for a possible 4 July restart in some form, Boris has stood up in the Commons and said cricket is still banned because the cricket ball is 'a natural vector of disease'.

    Meltdown notwithstanding, it is starting to look as though that may not actually be the position at all and he was just waffling bullshit that came into his head. #MyPM
    He’s making the old MayBot look more and more competent by the day at the minute.

  50. #10500
    Senior Member Spikey M's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    22,467
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    You can get your hair cut? The Premier League can play football? But you can't play cricket?

    Fuck me.
    We're right back at "I can't hug my nan but I can take her on the Vampire at Chessington"

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •