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Thread: February Football: The (Not A) Ho Chi Minh Special

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It definitely feels better as a fan when you just think you've been stiffed by the ref than it does when you have been stiffed by not only the ref, but also by a second ref with a TV and every opportunity to put the first ref right. You're just asking for conspiracy theories to develop.
    There's no conspiracy to be had. Anyone with half a brain can see it's just incompetence. There are numerous incomprehensible decisions in pretty much every game but on balance they go for/against individual teams with pretty equal frequency, often within the same game.

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    Has any actual reason for the Lemina sending off been provided?

    All I heard was “3rd person approaching the ref” which seems bizarre, given that happens about 5 or 6 times a game.

    If that’s how they want to police it fair enough - but then we should be seeing about twenty yellows a weekend when it’s introduced.

    Maybe the offside stuff has hidden it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Has any actual reason for the Lemina sending off been provided?

    All I heard was “3rd person approaching the ref” which seems bizarre, given that happens about 5 or 6 times a game.
    I read the reason given was that he was approaching AGGRESSIVELY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    There's no conspiracy to be had. Anyone with half a brain can see it's just incompetence. There are numerous incomprehensible decisions in pretty much every game but on balance they go for/against individual teams with pretty equal frequency, often within the same game.
    I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I said 'You're just asking for conspiracy theories to develop'.

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    Despite our differences, I don't dispute you having at least "half a brain".

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    There are numerous incomprehensible decisions in pretty much every game but on balance they go for/against individual teams with pretty equal frequency, often within the same game.
    I don't believe there are any conspiracy theories to be had, but people parroted this nonsense pre VAR and there's no reason for it to be true post VAR.

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    Well maybe the stats prove me wrong, IDK, but watching every United game my crude assessment is that there is a pretty even split of absolutely ridiculous decisions which go for and against us.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 12-02-2023 at 12:52 PM.

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    Decisions tend to run for home teams, especially in passages when the crowd is up or there is particularly aggressive on-field intimidation of the ref (see Keane-era Man Utd). I also think a lot of referees are quite generous to the underdogs in massive FA Cup mismatches sometimes. Other than that, I don't think there is a 'big club' bias or anything like that which is frequently rolled out by provincial fans.

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    De Gea
    Dalot
    Maguire (c)
    Shaw
    Malacia
    Sabitzer
    Fred
    Sancho
    Fernandes
    Rashford
    Weghorst

    That back line

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    I had forgotten you signed/ loaned that Burnley flop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I don't get why he was stupid enough to leave Luton a second time. It's clearly his ideal environment. I guess these people are all so driven they just back themselves to succeed anywhere despite all evidence to the contrary.
    Jones succeeded Ralph Hasenhuttl in November on a three-and-a-half-year contract after leaving Championship side Luton.
    That's your answer right there [aside from the obvious career advancement side of things].

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    He also probably thought he'd get a year in the Championship if it went south.

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    I was watching BT Sport Score at the time and it seemed to take forever for them to make the decision. Was Lee Mason having a shit at the time or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I had forgotten you signed/ loaned that Burnley flop.
    I think he's started every game since he arrived, not sure if he has managed a shot on target yet?

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    I know the Dutch are good at pumping up their own tyres, but Ten Hag convincing himself that Malacia should feature in top flight football is taking it a bit far.

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    That United team is genuinely disgusting. How have they got out at the minute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I think he's started every game since he arrived, not sure if he has managed a shot on target yet?
    I haven't been paying attention, but judging from my prior experience of him, I'm going to guess no.

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    I thought he'd managed a goal, did I imagine that?

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    He scored a few weeks back. I'm not sure what the expectation is from a last minute forward to replace Ronaldo but he's done ok considering.

    United are rotating because they're playing every 3 days at the moment.

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    He scored in the 2nd leg against Forest I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    He scored a few weeks back. I'm not sure what the expectation is from a last minute forward to replace Ronaldo but he's done ok considering.

    United are rotating because they're playing every 3 days at the moment.
    Don't understand why Martinez didn't start this game though, given he's suspended for Barca anyway. Would make a huge difference to the back line.

    Weghorst does fine. We needed cover for the terminally injured Martial and weren't going to get whoever the big striker signing ends up being in January. He brings other players into the game well.

    We are a totally different team without Casemiro.

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    Genuine tragedy that this Man Utd team are comfortably in 3rd. They are utterly shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Don't understand why Martinez didn't start this game though, given he's suspended for Barca anyway. Would make a huge difference to the back line.

    Weghorst does fine. We needed cover for the terminally injured Martial and weren't going to get whoever the big striker signing ends up being in January. He brings other players into the game well.

    We are a totally different team without Casemiro.
    Martinez might be being saved for the cup final?

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    Bombscare stuff from United here.

    So fully expect 2-0, B. Fernandes penalty and Rashford late on.

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    Case Miro being out also seems to have caused Fred to revert to full retard level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Genuine tragedy that this Man Utd team are comfortably in 3rd. They are utterly shite.
    We are genuinely quite good with our first 11 out. Our depth is just tragic and our only striker who isn't an emergency loan is never available.

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    And we've had about 50 games in 50 days.

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    Yeah, when the first team is all out Man Utd are quite good.

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    Rashford adding headers to his game.

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    Never thought I'd be saying it, but I think it's time to give Rashford a run at centre-forward.

    This better not be offside

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Never thought I'd be saying it, but I think it's time to give Rashford a run at centre-forward.
    Weghorst is proving to be a total momentum-killer so until we have other options I'd be tempted to put Rashford there unless it proves to take him out of the game.

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    This Leeds keeper is bobbins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Weghorst is proving to be a total momentum-killer so until we have other options I'd be tempted to put Rashford there unless it proves to take him out of the game.
    He's scored within about 5 minutes of going up front at the end of the last few games. I think he can do it.

    Garnacho is so fucking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Bombscare stuff from United here.

    So fully expect 2-0, B. Fernandes penalty and Rashford late on.
    Lol.

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    Rashford is premium mbappe at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    He's scored within about 5 minutes of going up front at the end of the last few games. I think he can do it.
    Agreed, and it's definitely worth a try I think as it stands.

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    They might as well trial him through the middle and starting Garnacho on the left before they spend half the summer budget on a striker.

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    I like this thing about not approaching/surrounding referees. Going to take the more knuckle-dragging elements in football ages to get their heads around it.

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    Jack Grealish is scum.

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    #TicketlessReds in the clear. It was the French and UEFA wot dun it.

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    Jota, Firmino and Van Dijk on the bench tonight. At last some reinforcements.

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    That’s some midfield 3 battle. All running and not much else. Should be a special game.

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    And thank fuck they've not put this at 12:30 on a Saturday like they usually try to. Should be a tasty atmosphere once a few snappy tackles go in.

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    Nunez should get in behind that right hand side with ease if he’s up for it.

    I’m sure Coady will try help him out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    That’s some midfield 3 battle. All running and not much else. Should be a special game.
    Special needs perhaps.

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    I’d struggle to think of a worse regular starter in the Klopp era than Nunez.

    At least Gomez has had decent form in the past.
    I'm a twit

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    That was a lovely counter attack.

    What's Pickford doing though?

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    Jordan Pickford. Fuck me.

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    Like when you bring the keeper out by mistake on FIFA.

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